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Hal's Newbie Feral Breakdown
After 1.8, I respecced to 14/31/6. I am sorta regretting putting a point in Omen of Clarity - I never use it. I may respec again to 13/31/7. However, that doesn't mean I'm no longer a healer. In my Feral gear, I have about 1000 AP unbuffed and in my healing gear, I have more mana than most priests. I was still the MT healer for our Ragnaros kill. I miss Innervate though. I'm going through mana potions like never before. Feral is fun, but I am still learning it. I get my ass whooped in PvP. However, I do occasionally come across a mage or a priest who doesn't take me seriously. Your Ravage crits ______ for 957. ..... Your Ferocious Bite crits ______ for 1693. ______ dies. I find myself doing the majority of damage to players, only to have people jump in at the last moment and steal my kill. Damn Paladins and their HoW. Some gear off the top of my head that's helped me get that much AP... Ghostshroud, Death's Clutch, Cadaverous Armor, Belt and Pants, Wristguards of Stability, Fist of Omokk, Rank 7 gloves and boots, Band of the Ogre King. I am trying to get the Medallion of Steadfast Might now that all of our warriors in our MC raid have it. I may get it tonight if it drops. Nat Pagle's Fish Terminator is high on my to-get list. Now of course, with all that AP gear, my mana pool is severely gimped. I find myself switching my Cadaverous Pants with Animist's Leggings from Jek'lik. I lose a lil AP, but I get some mana back and the armor rating on those pants is like.. 260... Epic druid pants are 170. Good shit for bear form. For bear form armor, I just use all my epics since they have the highest armor rating. All my epics are healing gear, so I am pretty much a turtle. 8500 armor unbuffed aint bad though. Now if only I can get ahold of that Medallion, I'll get the defense that really matters. |
Nerf Druids. Next topic: I'm thinking about renewing my account. The new features such as improved honor system, 5-man quests that have really nice rewards, the Silithus changes, and the first expansion are really starting to make me want to play again. Right now, I play BF2 exclusively, and while it is fun, it'd also be fun to play with all of my old friends again. If I do start playing again, #1 will be getting my 52 priest to 60. #2 will be a mixture of farming for my gold back (I gave away around 600g when I quit). #3 will be possibly getting better armor for my 60 warrior. After that, I'll probably keep leveling up my mage (playing at a low level is fun). If I do go back, it'll be with my girlfriend, and if she doesn't, I won't. MMORPG without your significant other playing simply doesn't work well.
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Las- I've been casually rolling an alt priest on Bleeding Hollow and it's sad to never see your name appear on my very short friends list. I don't play him much but I'd definitely pick things up if you came back. My rl friend rolled there too and is loving alliance so far..
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Although I sold my account some time ago, I thought I'd share this with you all.
Lord of the Rings: WoW Style If this is a repost, my apologies, but I didn't see this in the last few pages. |
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BGs PVP is terrible. :( I'm still holding on to the memory of open world PVP and hoping it comes back.
-Lasereth |
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Running around with a small group in WPL/EPL/Searing Gorge/BRM is still my favorite pvp. |
It's a difference in system priorities. BG PvP is designed to allow people to get ranks in the system. World PvP was never concentrator enough nor did it have the honor bonuses that the BGs have. I think it's a lot of fun, and I love me some 5-man world PvP, but it'd be a nasty feat to get enough honor to get rank 14 if that's all you were doing.
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Let me rephrase. The system you described works exactly as intended. BGs were not created to increase the rate at which people gained ranks. Rather they were designed to control (and, in this case slow) the rate at which people gained ranks. BGs are much easier to keep track of than world PvP. Thus, it gave bliz the ability to slow down the rate at which people attained the higher ranks and gave them more control over the amount of time it takes to move from one rank to the next.
I'm not necessarily saying this is right or better, I'm just explaining what the system does. |
The server im on (Windrunner) isn't PvP but the hirde attack a lot, mostly South Shore...so no BG for me:D
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Christ MMORPGs are the worst when you're not playing. I'm about to die from lack of RPG right now. AHHH!!!! I'm renewing my account this weekend.
-Lasereth |
Lol we knew you would be back haha. But na man I love this game keeps getting better will be glad when I can gank again with my rouge as the nef bat has been hitting him upside his head. But oh well every dog has his day and we will rise again. If anyone plays on Nerzhul let me know want to get a good guild going.
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What's the best/fastest way to get rep now in AV? I hate to do it, but I'm thinking of just afking it, since that's the only way blizz has left for me to get any upgrades. What's the best way to keep from going afk? I'd think something external that pushes my keyboard every min or something.
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Make sure your keyboard is sitting flat so the bottle doesen't slide off the desk and break. Find a nice safe spot in AV (inside your respective team's starting cave is fine). Press down arrow key, sit bottle on the key. The spinning keeps you from going afk, now go get food or whatever. |
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On another note, the whole game at 60 pisses me off.59 levels of easy grinding and questing, to hit a shitload of timesinks at 60.If I wanted to spend 8 hours raiding a single instance I'd have stayed with EverQuest.Strath/Scholo/UBRS/LBRS are fine, but I think they made a mistake when they added MC and the kinds of items you get from raiding there.The gap between MC geared players and casual is getting ridiculous now.At one time keeping both types of players closer together was a concern(hi rested exp bonus) but I guess not anymore. |
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WoW from when I was in beta was a pile of shit for PvP. It was no secret when I was in beta, I told people how bad it was. It always has been it always will be. Sure, the ranking systems were added, it's so beyond skewed now because of BG's. Organized raids if you have a consitant one can eaisly do 500k+ a week of CP's, sometimes more. I got to rank 9 farming CP's in Felwood pre-BG's. After that, I've fallen to rank 6 just trying to keep pace.
My guild does MC, we've killed Rag a few times now, we also run BWL and have gotten to Broodlord twice, but haven't killed him yet. The problem with it, is the constant grind. The gear keeps getting better and better, yet leaving the people behind who don't run MC. The purple PvP rewards are harder to obtain then MC gear it seems. It has to stop, gear now makes a bigger difference then it ever did in the early part of the game, and now MC is a joke with 16 debuff slots, and all the epic weapons. We clear Luci to Rag in just over 4 hours. It's a joke. The game still lacks real content besides endless instance farming and 40 man raids. PvP is terrible, and I imagine it will remain as such. Which sucks, cause the gameplay is untouched. The other problem is, Blizzard has a chokehold on the rest of the MMORPG market. It's going to take one hell of a game to make it with WoW still selling strong. The game overall is faily boring now. I've got 3 BF pieces, 4 NS pieces, a Gutgore, and a Corehound.. Quick Strike ring, Myrmidons Signet, and really, getting gear anymore is brutally stale. |
Ya, it didnt work. How long ago did it work for you? And can you describe exactly what you did? Like which key, the arrow key or A key? Were any of the numbers pushed down as well or any other keys? Did you have anyone selected? Thanks.
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I still don't think the PVP in WoW sucks...I think it's the best any MMORPG has ever offered. In other MMOs a priest can't fight without a warrior. In WoW they can. Each class has a chance against every other class. What IS ruined right now is the honor system, but I've gave up on that and am now just gonna do what I want, when I want. I'm installing WoW right now. :)
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Its worked for me a number of times. I always hated as a mage if you plan on playing for a long period of time but have to go somewhere real quick and lose hundreds of level 60 water. |
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I'm trying to figure out if they recently changed it, or if we're doing something different. |
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I tried it today while doing an Arathi Basin run.AFK tag went up, then went away.I hadn't used it in a while, so apparently it was changed. |
Lasereth-NM about the duel/afk thing, already tested it.
Looks like I'll have to try something external. No idea what though. Mabye one of those wooden/glass dipping birds and a really sensitive keyboard. |
I got a new toy!
Claw of Chromaggus Binds when picked up Unique One-Hand Dagger 37 - 90 Damage Speed 1.50 (42.3 damage per second) +17 Intellect +7 Stamina Requires Level 60 Passive: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 64. Passive: Restores 4 mana every 5 sec. My Frostbolts hit for about 900 now with this puppy (and a +30 damage enchant). My highest crit so far with trinkets+AP is about 3400. http://www.seretogis.org/files/linka...;s_new_toy.jpg |
Good god. We have mages in our raid who have been waiting for the mageblade to drop for months. It hasn't dropped once and we're starting on BWL now. If all goes well, we may get that thing before the fucking mageblade drops. Heh.
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And people say magic damage isnt scalable...
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Holy wow.
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Awesome Seretogis.
Our guild is finally rolling pretty hard. We've gotten Rag the past two weeks with the prior being our first, Onyxia is lolonyxia, and we also killed the tiger, panther, and hakkar in ZG for the first time as well. We're starting to bring in lots of purples constantly and we're only getting stronger. It's a good feeling seeing that there's been handfulls of drama to get here :) |
I just canceled my account and when I log in to say bye to everyone I see razer get invited back to the guild. You junkie :)
I'm just bored with the game, I can barely bring myself to play 3 hours a day yet it takes longer than that for a rogue to find a group for anything so it's either a PUG arathi basin or solo pvp in the plaguelands and that sucks because there's so few people out soloing now. Maybe my classes will be given a little love by the time expansion comes around.. Reese 60 Priest Elara 60 Pally Bard 60 Rogue Chuchawee 35 shammy - Random name generator FTW! |
I want that mageblade....lol im almost lvl 59 and I can crit for 2000+, my mage is Fire/Arcane
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I'm going hardcore PVP since I returned. Me and my druid and paladin friends are doing AB a lot. I got 120,000 CPs last week and skipped a rank! I'm going for Knight-Captain so I can get the leggings and chestplate. Hell I might go further since I have a lot of school breaks coming up. AB isn't that bad...unlike WSG and AV. I still miss open-world PVP, but it's refreshing to be able to rank up spending the same amount of time as pre-BGs, just in a more concentrated environment. Oh, and lost the roll on the Valor BP to a 58 warrior last night. WEE!! Ha ha.
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I want to get my rouge to lvl 39-40 so I can go PvP crazy...I find lvl 60 PvP with a mage to suck!
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Lvl 60 pvp sucks for most people/classes. Even rogues. (Unless you are epic geared and roll with a group/guild that works really well together)
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Yeah, I heard Rogues have it the worst out of any class when it comes to reaching lv 60.
While you can keep playing the game w/ other classes, it's pretty much "game over" for Rogues because they're somewhat out of place in certain groups (or so I've read). There's a LOT of people voicing their opinions and complaining about it, so I'm guessing it's a valid problem. |
Well i finally joined up. Playing on deathwing, haven't met up with my high level friends yet... I'll probably have to roam around myself for a bit before i level up enough to join em. I'm a Troll rogue, and the last post saying rogues are the hardest make me gulp a bit. That backstab sure works doozies though.
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I'll agree with rogues having it the worst at 60 concerning PvE and groups, but in PVP, they're still the strongest PVP class. Not because of their overall damage (even though it is high), not because of their stuns (even though they're powerful), but simply because rogues choose when and where they fight. If they know they can't win, they can vanish and sprint away. Even if they're DoT'ed and the vanish breaks, they're still sprinting away and will be out of combat before anyone catches up.
-Lasereth |
Pick up group end game play and guild-raid end game play are two very different things. Rogues generally have problems with PUGs because PUGs are uncoordinated and are basically 5-15 people doing what they would do alone but in a group so that all of them are kind of doing the same thing. That means the rogues pull aggro, which means that healers spam heals and then the rogue dies and then the healer dies. Game, set, match. So if you're going for unguilded end game PvE, then yeah, being a rogue is going to suck.
If you get into a guild that is coordinated and on TS or vent and knows what it is doing, you're going to be a valued DPS class that is all but required for some fights. Anyone ever try to take down Hexxar without a decent number of rogues? It's very difficult. Sure, you have to pay attention to getting high FR gear so AoE stuff in MC won't fry your pretty little face, but that's part of the job description. Endgame in WoW is VERY different than 0-60 for every class. DPS classes need to take their aggro levels very seriously. Mana-users need to learn mana control for 5 to 20 minute fights. Paladins and shamans need to learn that they're healers and not DPS classes. And tanking Onyxia is a far cry from tanking Baron Rivendare or Princess or Von Cleef. Find a good group of people to play with and adapt to your class's new functionality at 60. They're not any harder or any easier than anyone else and they're far from useless. I wish people would stop making sweeping ridiculous statements that they are. |
I've recently gone along on an MC run where most of the people are just starting out. I went as Feral DPS. I out-DPSed the rogues during trash mobs. I had to go healbot during the boss fights though.
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For any who read, Lasereth is really talking about solo or small group in world pvp, which there is very little of now a days as blizzard stresses large group pvp in BGs. It's a valid viewpoint, but one few people participate in anymore. BGs are a whole lot different than ganking someone fighting a mob that's trying to level. In large group pvp stunlock is crap (takes too long), you fight way more than once every 5 mintues, and you don't really get to choose when to fight, only who to target first. And half the classes can approach your damage pretty easily. |
Frossbyte, I dunno about you, but Ive never really seen aggro as that big a problem for rogues in PUGs or otherwise. The problem is rogues usually arnt worth the hassle (mana and a healers attention) of keeping alive (from AOEs). We really need some kind of evasion like in DnD that gives us a chance to dodge or take half damage from AOEs.
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My guild took down Vael last night. That was very exciting. Of course, now we're wiping on Razorgore again. These gatekeeper fights are very nasty. Hopefully people will get their crap together so we can make progress in the instance and not on our repair bills!
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Well you guys said 60 PVP sucks, not 60 BGs sucks for rogues, so that's why I posted that. I think BGs sucks for all classes. If you're attacking a flag that is defending, you usually die immediately no matter what class you are. Hell, if you attack a single horde that is on defense mode, you're usually gonna lose simply because they always call for reinforcements ASAP. The BGs are boring as fuck, but it's the only way to compete in the honor system. :(
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However, while I havn't played every class, I have gotten a good feel with the hunter in BGs, and let me tell you, it is so refreshing. I very rarely die, my last WSG my score was something like 24 KBs and 2 deaths (one of the top scores. We lost too, so it wasn't because we were dominating). And it was all because of range, I have the +6 yards or whatever range talent and just tried to make sure I was always near max. They could rarely touch me, if I had a healer even half heartedly watching my health (I got literally like 1 heal the whole time) I would have never died. My point is BGs seem to suck the most for melees. For comparision, with my rogue I can get near the top KBs as well, but my deaths almost always match it or come close. |
Ya melee's seem to have it the worst in BGs being at range FTW. Love it I played a rouge up to 60 and then now am leveling a hunter and even though the strats are different being at range out of the mix so much is a lot better in large scale PVP. Seems but warriors will live forever with a good healer backing them up rogues are paper once out of stealth they are a target and dead. And so much knocks them out of stealth its not even funny. Hope they get to rouges soon as I would love to be back in the ganking buisness.
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Yeah, BGs can be fun, but ONLY if you have a good healer with you...and by good, I mean one that heals you when a horde attacks, not just when your HP gets low. I was grouped with two paladins and a shadow priest last night and we simply devastated any group that came near us. One time we had 2 groups of 4 attack us back to back without a break and the four of us killed all 8. :) It was awesome. The paladins shielded even when they weren't low HP...but when their heals were interrupted. They'd shield just to be able to heal ME. That's a good paladin, a good team player, and someone who knows how to rack in the CPs. The shadow priest would switch out of shadow form, shield me, heal the paladins, and then switch back in in the blink of an eye. I hope to group with them more. :) Being at range does suck...it makes group PVP a pain without the aforementioned crew.
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OMG thats the best :thumbsup: |
Holy shit that is to fuckin funny , lol!
I'm not even sure I'd want to answer that on national tele. |
First, that Leeroy video had me in absolute stitches. I don't know who slipped that in there or why or how, but damn, that's genius. Shame on those kids for not knowing the answer.
Second, the hunter epic quest is a horrible pain in my ass. I've done two of the demons and I know how to do the one in Silithus, but the Winterspring demon kicks me in the balls every time. I must be on my fourth or fifth series of attempts on him and I'm nowhere close. Somewhere in the 70% range is the best I can seem to get. Kiting has never been a strategy that I've used much, especially staying at maximum range like is necessary here (yes, I lose to warriors in PvP all the time because of that). Fortunately or unfortunately, my inability to not be a newb has been a moot point because we can't get Onyxia to drop a mature black dragon sinew anyway. Ah well. |
Well, I cancelled my account the other day. Several reasons for this--I had become bored with the grind, didn't have time to devote 4+ hours to instance running, and my internet connection currently sucks, so I couldn't really play without lagging anyways.
I might come back when I get better internet. I'd really like to make it to 60, but there's just not really anything compelling me :| |
Okay, I have a question, would WoW be worth getting into now? Some of my friends are playing it and trying to get me to play.
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sure.. people start new characters all the time...
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Okay, I was just making sure that the community wasnt dying down, because that's what seems to be happening with Guild Wars. :(
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my server used to not be full.. now I have to sometimes wait to log on during peak times...
they just opened 5 more realms if I recall. |
Frosstbyte, here you go.
http://tkasomething.com/avatarfaq.php That site helped me out a ton, course I already knew how to kite from years of EQ, but this guide helped alot. |
Is the population of this game still growing? If so, I'm surprised. After playing several mmorpg's, I now hate pretty much all of them. Too time consuming and just not fun.
Everquest original was fun. I even enjoyed FFXI a little. And vaguely Ultima. However, WoW was bad when I played it and I could not imagine it being any better. It definitely never came close to offering what EQ classic did. |
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Thanks for the help, though. |
Quick question...Im rank 2 PvP I got 95 HK's in like 4 hours will that move me to rank 3??
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The HKs don't matter...how many contribution points did you get (honor)? My guess is hell no, but I could be wrong. It depends on how PVP-centered your server is as well. On my server, it takes 30,000 CPs to get above rank 2. That's around 5 hours of Arathi Basin plus at least 400-500 HKs.
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It takes 30k CP to get rank 2? Damn. I'm going to be holding rank 6 with less than 40k on Shattered Hand. (our server sucks for PvP, by the way)
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Rank 1 = 25 kills Rank 2 = 30,000 CPs Rank 3 = 40,000 CPs Rank 4 = 60,000 CPs Rank 5 = 80,000 CPs Rank 6 = 120,000 CPs Rank 7 = 150,000 CPs Rank 8 = 180,000 CPs Rank 9 = 300,000 CPs Rank 10 = 500,000 CPs Rank 11 = 1,000,000 CPs You can imagine how bad it gets after rank 11. There are people on my server that get 400,000 a week, so it's not hard for the absolute freakshows. I personally can't sit in AB for 24/7, so I usually get 50-100k a week casually. -Lasereth |
Well, 1.9 is on the public test realm now, so you can see what I look like in full Netherwind (tier 2). It's... different.... :P
Primary = Claw of Chromaggus Offhand = Master Dragonslayer's Orb (Nef's Head reward) http://www.seretogis.org/files/linka...netherwind.jpg |
Do you get all the coolest equipment on the test realm automatically or do you still have to work for it?
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All demons dead. Runed staff in hand. Onyxia must drop her sinew! You kind of have to wonder why it's so damn hard to get sinew from her. I mean, she's a huge freaking dragon. Can't I just reach in and grab a handful?
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Please tell me you are not on a PvP server, that would just hurt my feelings... :hmm: I just got my 3rd piece of arcanist (gloves/sholders/robe) on Bleeding Hollow and I was out rolled on my freaking ToEP... bastards... almost exaulted with AV though (about 2000 rep off), so I can finally get a nice off hand for my mageblade... |
Ony coughed up her sinew as hoped. I'm the proud new owner of my epic bow and staff. Yay! I celebrated by two-shotting a bunch of mages in AB. Sorry Sere, your kind is just so squishy right now! (especially when they're too stupid to blink towards me or otherwise prevent my aimed shot from going off in their face)
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LOL its always fun to watch hunters when I blink close to themr. They always stand there confused as to what to do. Most try to back up to get range, and i just follow them dumping instant cast spells. Maybe i'll hit frost nova and stay in that sweet spot between melee and ranged. The confusion is priceless tho. :p
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I did poorly last week!! I only got around 65,000 CPs. That won't get me to Knight Captain. Damn holidays! You'd figure it'd be easier to play more often during holidays, but stuff kept coming up and I just couldn't stay in AB for any extended period of time. Oh well, it'll get me pretty damn close to Knight Captain (I was already 2/5 through).
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Well, I did it.
I finally broke down and downloaded the 10 day trial of WoW. Two weeks before finals week, no less. I'm doomed. |
LOL i wouldn't start that till after finals. Seriously :p
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Every now and then a mage will blink next to me and get plowed with an 800pt raptor strike. It rarely happens, but I get pretty fired up when it does!
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I got 7/8 towards Knight Captain. I'll definitely have it down on Tuesday. Getting awfully close to Lieutenant Commander! :) I'm stopping at rank 10. It's actually more absurd than I initially realized on my server to get past rank 10. A guy in my guild got 570,000 CPs last week and it put him 1/4 through rank 12...I don't think so.
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LMAO I blink away from people like you :lol: |
I did Molten Core for the first time last night. That was really fun!! Had a bunch of great drops and hopefully next time I'll have a chance at the Obsidian Edged Blade (I'll have enough DKP then!). We took down Lucifron, Magmadar, Gehennas, Garr, Baron Geddon, and Shazzrah. The Obsidian Edged Blade dropped off of Baron and a Paladin used his DKP on it. Whatever!!
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Haha our first OEB went to a pally too, and the next one went to a Warrior who used it for about a week then got Bonereaver's Edge hehe.
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My Mage Lucius in Arcanist/Azuresong Mageblade. I am only wearing 3 pieces in the Pic, got all my +damage gear on for PvP. Frostbolts normal hit for around 820-860ish I have a SS somewhere of me criting a Rogue in AV with my battle standard/AV buff/Flask of supreme power for 2950-something. I love 1 shotting people. Nice dress ehh? |
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I'm on Shattered Hand and I don't think we have eight yet. Drama, Indomitable and Death and Taxes have kills for the Alliance, but I believe only Relentless has a kill for horde. There are at least four guilds, I think, that are ON Nef but haven't killed him yet. WarEnsemble and Riders of the Apocalypse are very close, but haven't done it yet, so you guys might be ahead of us. For having the first kill, our entire server certainly isn't all caught up to that point.
In other, less exciting, news, my second guild in as many months fell apart, so I'm on the hunt...again. Thank goodness Onyxia coughed up her sinew on Monday before things went to shit. I could've been waiting for a LONG time if I didn't get it then. Ah well, I think I have pretty good prospects in a guild that's working on Firemaw now. Assuming I get in, that's a pretty lateral move for me, so I'm hopeful that stuff will work out. |
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So if you decide you don't like the game, make sure you cancel your account or you will buy a month of game time. |
I have 50k this week. YEE HAW for Knight-Captain tomorrow. I've been waiting for this rank since April (no joke!!). After Tuesday, it's only 2 ranks to my WoW goal (Lieutenant Commander). Then I'm done with my warrior for a while and it's priest time.
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come outside and duel me laz, I wanna see how the warrior has progressed! :P |
Hey video tape that I want to see you guys battle.
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So I got to rank 6 this week and all you get is a new Tabard?
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I got rank 8!! My warrior is totally badass now. :) I still need a new weapon though. Here's a few screenshots.
<IMG SRC=http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/rank8b.jpg> <IMG SRC=http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/rank8A.jpg> -Lasereth |
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Woah.... now that's pretty incredible... |
Did I mention I'm going to drop out of law school and take that class?
Kthx. In other news, new guild, broodlord dead on first try, firemaw to 10%. He's going down tomorrow. Go us! |
Now thats a class. But in other news any guilds recruiting on any server I want to join a raiding guild.
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Heh.. my guild is recruiting.. we're going to start doing MC/BWL runs. We actually know MC inside and out, but we haven't ever been big enough to run it by ourselves - only in an alliance. How fast can you get to 60? :p We're Alliance on Silvermoon.
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Anyone playing on Deathwing server as Horde? I'm a lvl 19 troll rogue, ReeRov.
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