We're still in Bleeding Hollow but we might switch to another if they allow it. We'll update this thread if we plan on switching to a lower populated server. The only downside with switching to another server is the loss of an incredible economy on Bleeding Hollow.

-Lasereth

I my self love Khadgar, good sized population with little if ever downtime.

Its usually up within 30 min of the stated maintence times, little to no lag. (Except for IF of course...)

And friendly :D

For some reason I thought that the economy would be bad on a really high population server. Well at least for the people just starting out who don't have many items. However I've been on Mal'Ganis for a bit now and have seen the economy change pretty drastically just within the time I've played. Simple things like stacks of 20 linen cloth used to sell immediately with a buyout of ~40s. Now I can only get them sold quick by undercutting everyone at around 18s. Lately I've just been making quick cash here and there selling elixir of defense pots for ~48s buyout.

New job/no sleep/up early/up late playing WoW makes me a dumb boy
:o

This is definately true, Ever. When I was a newbie and the server was a week old, you could name your price for stacks of linen, light leather, or copper. Now they're worth much less as the great bulk of crafters who once wanted them to get their crafting ranks up no longer need them.

For early instances and grouping, hunters are not the best, though they are pretty decent with frost traps, a pet to offtank and good damage. That being said, hunters are the hot class at the moment for high end encounters, good ranged damage is at a premium and they are indespensable for that reason.

I just got my epic mount, finally!

http://www.seretogis.org/files/linka...togis-epic.jpg

Wow, don't you just feel like you wasted 900g right now? :D

--jaded

I know it's worth it every time I chase down a mounted Paladin or Rogue. ;)

Uh... your mounts cost 900g?!

...or is an epic mount different from a normal mount?

900g is a lot... how the hell do you get that?

Once you hit 50 or so, making gold doesn't take very long at all. That's not to say 900 G isn't a lot, but it's definitely doable. Just don't buy anything for a while.

Undead epic mounts are worth 900g because they look so fucking cool. ALL of the Alliance epic mounts look stupid.

Oh, and regular mounts travel 60% faster than run speed and epic mounts travel 100% faster than run speed. A pretty significant speed increase if ya ask me. I'm not buying one because the extra speed isn't worth it to me -- especially since the Alliance epic mounts look stupid. If I were undead, I'd start saving at 50 for one.

-Lasereth

I just started playing that gaem yesterday, in 4 hours I got my self to a level 7. But I'm stuck on a mission so I think I will start another. I would have been playing this sence it came out but my old comp wouldn't run it so how this new super computer can run it with ease:D

If you see a Paintrain Nightelf Priest running around its me.

Yeah, now that I think about it, 1g isn't really hard to come by anymore, and I'm only lv 23. Many of the humanoids I fight drop nearly 1 silver.. plus I can pickpocket. It doesn't take long for it all to add up.

I had a TON of 20-stacked Briarthorns that I've sold on the AH for 1-2g per pop. Gotta love herbalism.

Man, briar thorn like that might go at most for 50s on my server ;).



Anyone know what the Tauren epic mount looks like?

That's one of the main reasons I don't want to switch servers. Briarthorn really does sell for over 1g per stack on our server. Other trade items like bars and cloth sell for tons as well. I don't want to lose the economy of a massive server but I DO want to lose the lag associated with it!

-Lasereth

I'd heard from a few friends that only undead epic mounts are currently modeled differently with plans to implement the others in the coming months. Were they just feeding me bullshit or is that actually true?

It's true, the undead mount has awesome looking particle effects around it etc. Everyone else just gets a mount with a slightly different color, pretty weak.

The Alliance epic mounts do look different (they're albino-ish), but it's nothing compared to how awesome the Undead mounts look. I hope they are implementing new Alliance models in the future because right now it's not worth it!

-Lasereth

So things go for more on a higher-populated server? That's odd because in economies, prices usually drop when there's more people involved because more people would be picking Briarthorn, thus they would all be undercutting eachother to sell it and it would drive the prices down. That, or the spawn time is the same so it's rarer to come by because so many people are in the world to be picking it....

Anyone have any suggestions for a good low/medium PVP server? I'm starting a new character with a group of friends and we're having trouble finding one with the right number of people on it. When we started up on Blackrock earlier today, it was listed as medium, but we tried to get in just now with queue lines of 300+ and a high rating. Little help finding one that has a consistently lower population would be great. Thanks in advance.

I'm on Mal'Ganis, a PVP, medium-population server somewhere in the Alabama timezone. I've never seen it be "down" for whatever reason, and I've never once waited in a line. I think there's a little more horde than alliance. The economy is good, but it's the only server besides the open beta that I've played on so I have nothing to compare it to.

The spawn time stays the same. :) Briarthorn is used in Swiftness potions which are really marketable. Briarthorn is also pretty rare even though it's a low level herbalism herb. There's simply a lot of demand for it from people who are loaded.

-Lasereth

Name: Rocinante (26) Rakote (41) server: Kel'thuzad horde side love the game very much.

I'm up to level 12 with my undead warlock ;)

i've got to start playing more..hehehe Still, that's what I love about this game. I don't HAVE to sink a bunch of time into it to have fun.

I started again on Feathermoon with a Hunter some time last week, now at level 24.

I can't believe it but I went to StoneTalon for the first time today... this is after having the game for about 2-3 months... For some reason I thought it was a way too high level of a place... I'm there cleaning up like you wouldn't believe! At this rate when I hop on again tomorrow morning I'll be at level 25 in 30 min.

lvl 38 Gnome Rogue on Proudmoore here.

WoW rox and Proudmoore is a decent populated server

Not for another week... <sigh>

Is it possible to mail items/money between servers? I am starting another character on another server and I wanted to mail him some "startup" dough. Is this possible? Thanks

Nope!

-Lasereth

no way.. that'd make one global economy instead of a server side economy. Making those who play on lower populated servers get the low rates of a highly populated server.. at which point there would be no difference soon there after. More importantly though, you could just farm all day in a Non-PVP server amassing loot and money where you would be in the middle of Nuetral Badlands in a PvP server... which would be defeating the point and unfair.

very nice pic Sere..!

I've got a level 48 warrior on Kil'Jaeden

How long does it take to get to level 48?

Im only at Level 12 :crazy:

is anyone playing on proudemoore? its me and a bunch of australians i guess. im from the states

52 Paladin, Burning Blade
16 Mage, Burning Legion (Horde)

Taking a break from the Paladin atm, the Mage is actually really damn fun right now so who knows if I'll ever go back. :O

Depends on your play time.I think it took me a month and a couple days to hit 60(I ran out of quests to do, so had to scrounge up enough to level).I'm sure it can be done in alot less time, simply based on how people play.I have alot of play time, so I'm not sure how it works for everyone else.Someone hardcore enough could probably pull it off in a week or two.

Yeah, to confirm that, 60 has been hit in under a week by various teams of guys working harder and longer than Nasa scientists ;)

I have a 60 paladin and a 36 mage on dethecus. I only use my paladin when my mage gets ganked as revenge. Paladin is, hands down, the most boring class of them all. I don't even bother instancing with the paladin. It's dreadfully boring.

Rolling an alt mage saved WoW for me :D

--jaded

That's how the farmers play ;p

Ya sunday, monday and tuesday i work 12 hour shufts so there is no time to lay them 3 days, then the rest of the week maybe 3 to 4 hours a night. I got a daughter and GF to tend to:D


Gotta love the magic, Im a Night Elf Priest, if I don't have magic I feel lost :thumbsup:

Damn, really? Haha, Briarthorn is the one thing I have the MOST of. It's all over The Barrens, Stonetalon, and Silverpine (probably more, but that's where my quests are right now). I have about 5 stacks of 20 :)

Silverleaf is the one thing I need most of, but can never seem to get.. although there's the oasis in the barrens I just found that has TONS of it.

Honestly, it doesn't really take all that long.

Just gotta claw your way through the quests! If you go out and grind (aka, just getting XP from mobs), it'll take you ages.. unless you're a rogue or something that can just rip through mob after mob without much downtime (thistle tea along w/ alchemy for pots is amazing!)

If I did nothing but grind, I could probably manage 20k XP an hour. Avg rogue battle for me is.. 15 seconds with equal level mobs. Then you account for respawns, etc.. which is generally 300 XP a minute.

If I do nothing but quests, I can manage 2-3 levels every 4 hours of play (going solo). I'm almost at 29, but if you use the "/played" command, it'll tell you the total time spent playing along with the amount of time spent at your current level.

I think the highest my "level" time has been might've been 2 hours, but that was when I was out herb-farming. With 2k XP (and more) from each quest, depending on what you have to do, it doesn't take much time to do 15 of em.

There are the occasional quests where you need to kill an ungodly amount of enemies or get a ridiculous amount of items (for example, 30 Hillsbrad Human skulls), but those are generally few and far between.

If you have friends that play with ya, you could easily get through 5 quests an hour (probably more, again, depending on which quest it is). It goes by much faster when you party.

So far, with my lv 28 (almost 29) rogue, I have 3 days of gameplay total.

Horray for me!
just hit 60
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~mcgilla/WoW/lvl60me.jpg

My guild on Mannoroth downed King Magni Bronzebeard for the first time that I've heard of, ever.

http://www.twelveprophets.com/images...magni_dead.jpg

Some more screenshots: http://www.twelveprophets.com/images...05-02-17/misc/

There has been a massive amount of whining / bitching about it from Alliance from all servers because we were a little creative with his placement when we pulled him. We've had a lot of accusations of "cheating" thrown at us for killing him, mostly from people who don't seem to be able to comprehend what is going on from examining screenshots. For instance, someone suggested that the King sat motionless and didn't attack, though is is very clear that he was attacking and spawned a billion guards which we had to kill repeatedly. Anyhow, we got no loot from him, but we managed to stir up all the Alliance, so in a way that is enough of a reward. ;)

The fight took 45 mins to an hour -- that's from the moment we engaged, to the moment he died -- and we had to deal with some Alliance, and his billions of summoned guards as well. Most Alliance, thankfully, weren't bright enough to figure out how to get to where we were.

Wow you're in that guild? Just came across the post about you guys at the WoW forums and people are going pretty nuts over it. Good job! :thumbsup: ;)

-T

I'm an officer of 12p, and the outcry from Alliance is even better than any loot he could have dropped. :lol:

My brain hurts with the thought of how that is possible, assuming he's a level 500 like the ones in Stormwind and/or that the level 500 designation actually means anything. It would seem numerically impossible for a level 60 to hit anything that much higher, but hey, whatever works. Additionally, my computer can't handle the normal amount of lag that it incurs when in IF. I can't imagine having a raid party on top of that. Shudder indeed.

Well I've been playing since release..played time around 12-13 days /played..casual player :) My days of supreme hardcore mmo gaming got sucked dry in DAoC :p

500 is not the actual lvl, just what cosmos and such displays because blizz dosn't want you to know.

Goddamn! That's impressive! Even though I play alliance kudos to you guys.
Can I join 12p? :lol:
--jaded

just started playing a few weeks ago, lvl 23 undead priest, god i love haveing heals, and not sucking solo.

im on bleeding hollow

Quick question to the assembled wisdom: I was wandering around Iron Forge trying to restock my herbs. I was a few hundred points away from leveling so I thought I could do two things at once. I noticed after killing damn near fifty small and assorted creatures whilst gathering herbs my XP hadn't moved an inch. Why? Is this a glitch of some kind? Thanks for any info.

Zul'jin
Lvl 23 Human Mage

If the mob is more than 5 (or 10?) levels lower than you, you get no xp for killing it. You can see this if their level shows up in grey when you target them.

--jaded

I think it's 10. I'm 34 and I still get XP off 25/26 enemies. This system is in place to prevent higher level people from clearing out hordes of smaller enemies that lower level people are better off fighting. It's also there to, you know, challenge you to fight stuff of your level. No one said this was going to be easy.

Not that it's very challenging to level in WoW ;)

--jaded

Not necessarily challenging, but I have noticed that 45+ it has really slowed down. I'm currently 49 and am not sure if searching for quests or just straight-out grindage is the best course for exp. But regardless, it sure it slower.

Grinding will always be faster than questing at that level since the quests usually involve multiple steps that take you all over WoW. It's a matter of finding good mobs to grind as well. As a paladin, for example, you want undead.

At 49, you can work the thistles in Tanaris (south west corner of the map, by the enterance to un'goro crater) for good xp. At 50, skeletons in Western Plaguelands are easy xp. At 52, hit up the Un'goro crater itself. There are tons and tons of easy quests in there.

You have tons of options, but you are right that the pace slows down.

My 2 copper ;)

--jaded

Lol, nice :p

Thanks Jaded, I'll try those places. I think honestly I just need to stick w/ one area, but I'm always looking for that golden xp spot. I think I will try those western skels since I just dinged 50.

Only 10 more to go, geeze.

when you hit 56/57 - the yeti's in Winterspring are really good grinding & skinning.

Very nice but you guys ghosted into old ironforge and pulled him there right? The real challenge would be killing him while alliance are easily able to get to you and drop fear bombs and such.

I think that would have been one big ass battle.

But I'm sure the Blizzard servers would have been able to handle that... :rolleyes:

Hopefully battlegrounds will come out soon. This game has great PvP potential, but right now it's pretty much all blue victories, no real pvp accomplishments.

The ONLY thing wrong with the PVP system is the fact that you can't raid towns unless your raid party is beyond incredible (sort of like the 12 Prophets up there). The dynamic spawn guarding ruins any type of raid on towns. The moment you raid a town, literally 50 guards spawn that are level 50+ and sometimes elite. You have no chance of taking over a town. The only town that accomplishes this is Booty Bay, and it's just like one big paintball arena. I think that there should be a timer on the guard spawning. Say 15-30 minutes. If a guild is large and devoted enough to take over an entire town, they should be allowed to do so. Then after 15-30 minutes, the guards spawn to help. Right now, once you STEP FOOT into a town of the opposite faction, a hundred guards spawn and rape you. Not fun.

Battlegrounds has potential to be cool but I can see it failing miserably.

-Lasereth

The problem with PvP, as I see it, is that there really is no reason for it. In other games you would pvp for zone control, or area control, or even for loots/points. I guess there is some area control pvp in WoW, but it's not really neccessary because there are so many places you can go that give similar rewards. Right now the only reason to pvp on a large scale is just for shit's and giggles. You don't accomplish anything by doing it, or really even gain anything by winning a battle.

Right here is the reason they don't want to itemize kings of towns.

Yup that is what I heard they did..heh! I got to 50 yesterday.. the level 52 quest Stealing Knowledge in Azshara is awesome..wow so much exp heh!

On an abrupt change of topic, I'm level 35 and have about 45 gold. I'm absolutely obsessed with buying a mount as soon as I hit 40. Anyone have any good cash-hunting zone suggestions for me so I can make sure I make this?

Hit 55 not too long ago, and it's going sloooooooow.....

The sad thing is that a good portion of my guild has already hit 60, so I'm lagging behind. At least I maxed out my tailoring.
It's kind of getting boring, though. At least a little bit. I may not have the attention span needed to finish the higher lvl instances, where you HAVE to go to do a lot of quests. I guess I'll get there eventually....

I was wondering, on a side note, if there's any (relatively) easy way to increase rep with darnassus. I'm a human, so I get the diplomacy bonus, but I'm looking for a good re-doable quest or thing to kill.
I want that cat.

The ghosts in the graveyard of SM drop pretty nice cash :)

They are non elite and around 32-34..

Hit 54 on my Paladin today, I thought I was going to take a break but I have to focus on one char so I at least have a 60 for BG (whenever that'll be.) I respecced out of the "fixed" SoCr and I'm finding this spec to be actually better than before the nerf.

Another quick question to assembled wisdom: How do I talk to someone not in my immediate vicinity. I hear people talk of "sending a tell" if they want to join a group or buy/sell something but I have no idea how this is done. I want to learn! If anyone could instruct me I would grateful. Thanks

There are a variety of ways to do this.

1) /tell [name] Message

2) /whisper [name] Message

3) Click on their name in the chat window much like you'd click on an item.

There may be more, but those are the ones I use.

Thanks Frosstbyte. Thats exactly what I was looking for. Much appreciated. Here is another silly yet innane question: Sometimes when I try to login to my server I get stuck on "Authenticating." I take this to mean that my server is busy. Should I just let the game keep running or cancel and try again? Will the "Authenticating" process ever resolve itself or will it stay there stuck? Just wondering. Thanks.

I'm afraid to touch this game... I think my life will be sucked away without remorse.

I usually leave it and just wait and it'll usually resolve itself. If it doesn't just keep trying every few minutes and you should be able to log in.

Blizzard's login server (the server that keeps the database of all their login names and passwords) has been very touchy basically since WoW started. Sometimes it is working and sometimes it is not. When it gets stuck on "Authenticating," it means the login server is down. You just have to wait a while for it to get fixed and then it'll work. It's not anything you're doing, but one of those glitches that Blizzard needs to get worked out.

And yes, Hal, this game will do just that.

I've only been able to play for a grand total of five minutes today as first I kept getting hung up on "authenticating" and all the usual tricks weren't working...grr...and then when I finally DID get on to my server it was twelve minutes away from shutting down for emergency maintenance. So when the server finally came up again and I was able to play...the game crashed, and now it's hung up on "authenticating" again.

Yeah, the fates are conspiring against me.

Major server issues today. One server cluster (which my server is part of) has pretty much died completely. The login server has been on and off as well. Oh well, at least I can do something important...like laundry :D

--jaded

What's the chance of a server completely going dead and losing all of the player info, maybe compareable to a HDD dying?

Man oh man..what a day for Kil'jaeden..bleh 12AM on the East Coast and it isn't even up yet and I've been home since around 6PM..meh

Extremely unlikely. Even if a disk dies, and they do all the time, it's usually part of a raid set which allows for 1 or 2 disks to fail depending on the raid level they use. On top of that, most hardware should be redundant in case something does fail. If it all goes to hell, there is always the ol' backup/restore solution which may result in a only (hopefully) slight rollback. :D

I'd be shocked to the point of quitting if my characters are lost forever.

--jaded

I think most people would share your sentiment on that Jaded.

Well one of my friends at college deleted his level 60 night elf rogue to start over as horde. He played horde for a week and then WHOOPS! Decided he wanted his rogue back. He contacted a GM and got his 60 rogue back within minutes. That's pretty damned good if you ask me...he fully deleted all of his characters and started over on a different faction on a PVP server and they still had his character backed up.

-Lasereth

wow, that is highly lenient. Why didnt your friend just change servers? Did he have a grudge against his own faction/ guild?

Lvl 53 now. Finding that after grinding most of the 40s that going back to questing is working out nicely. Been concentrating on quests in Ungoro, then, when I tire of that, Felwood. What lvl can I head to Winterspring and start pounding it out there?

Wow, thats a pretty crazy story. Is the friend of yours friends with the GM's by chance or just an average joe in their minds?

Frosstbyte and anyone else looking for gold info-

I had 90 gold by lvl 32 with a /played time around 6+ days. This is my first WoW character (besides a brief one in the open beta) so I can't say that I use specific ways to gather my money, it just kind of comes naturally with my playing style. I might not be able to assure more income, but I can at least share what I find myself doing regularly which has happened to result in a high amount of cash relative to I guess what the average player makes/has. Let me know ;)

-T

I hit up winterspring at 53-54 if I remember correctly. But I really didn't do any quests out there (save the "Are we there yeti?" quest) but grinded undead ghosts on the frozen lake. Worked out very nicely since I was playing a Paladin and I could actually get some decent dps.

My alt mage is 46 now and the naga's in feralas on dread island inside the cave is insanely good xp. So fast and easy to kill. Planning on moving on to Tanaris around 48. Still trying to figure out efficient aoe grinding as a mage but it's tough to find good spots for it. Maybe Seretogis has some input on this?

--jaded

I would suggest the harpies at Ravenwind in Feralas around 50. I found them to be paper-thin when it comes to HP/AC. I could tear through them at a very fast rate.

I'll check it out for sure. What level are they? I can usually do 4-5 at a time if they are 2-3 levels below me. I'm not frost specced at all so I rely solely on instant arcane explosion and the fire aoe (forget the name).

--jaded

Ha ha, Instant Arcane Explosion is the best mage spell in the game. :) Me and Redjake were taking on twenty 40 elites simultaneously in Razorfen Downs with it. I would spend 4000 mana on flash heals and he would spend 6100 mana on Arcane Explosion. After 20 seconds, you have twenty dead 40 elites and a ton of money/EXP. :)

I believe you 100% Ever. There are really easy ways to make money in this game that some people won't accept. I won't mention them here but it's quite obvious. If I hadn't bought every single blue item that my priest and warrior could use up until now, I'd easily have 90g by my midthirties. Hell, it'd probably be way over 100, maybe closer to 200g. That's why when I got to level 32 or so on my priest and warrior I wasn't really concerned with getting mount money. One economy in the game is a gauranteed money maker...has been since closed beta.

-Lasereth

Lasereth, he got his 60 back but he was nekkid :) Also I really wanted to buy that Epic axe you had on AH the other day but couldnt afford it.. I couldnt catch you online to see if you'd hold it for me :)

Man, you guys are smoking me in the gold area. I'm a lvl 30 warrior and I have about 8 gold. I think I'm going to make more use of the auction house.

Lotuss - Night Elf Warrior, Burning Blade server

Everyone wanted it but no one would actually give me the money! They kept saying I was getting ripped off, but no one would actually buy it. I finally found someone to buy it. I bought it for 45g and sold it for 45g...no money lost!

-Lasereth

Low end is 48, top end is 50.

For your level, the ghosts in Ashzara might be good as well, they're ~45, if I remember correctly.

45g for an epic axe ey? Was it Kang the Decapitator? I rarely see epics go for less than 80g on mal'ganis. Kang and other uber items usually have a start of 200g and buyout of 300-400g. :\

Ohh no, it was a Fiery War Axe. I have a Kang the Decapitator. I bought it for 100g even though they go for 150-250 on our server. The Fiery War Axe isn't worth much more than 50g but I thought I could get more...apparently not!

-Lasereth

I woulda given 50 for it but I still needed a few days to make another mooncloth :) The only other Fiery War axe on there was 100g and I really didnt wanna spend that much for a weapon that'd I'd out level in a week.