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Zeraph 01-29-2006 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesupermikey
im a tauren in the starter town. ive set all the graphics down, but im still not getting anything.

I can move and play for a bit, than i locks up and stuff has happened, ive moved, or ive killed the thing that i was fighting.

Have you looked through options and turned off everything that might be incompatible (some special effects are to certain video cards or whatever) cause theres really no other reason I can think of that would have so much lag. Your system is similar to mine, and should run fine. Good luck.

thesupermikey 01-29-2006 09:48 PM

i dropped all the graphics and sound stuff....still having the problem

im going to call blizzard Tech support tomarrow

Pragma 01-30-2006 11:43 AM

I've got a similar system (GF4 Ti4600, 768MB RAM, AthlonXP 2000+) and have no problems at all anywhere in WoW except Ironforge during peak hours. I'm running at 800x600 with most options at medium.

Gabbyness 01-30-2006 06:17 PM

I have had so many issues in WoW it's ridiculous Mikey. I would suggest taking a look at WoW's support FAQ and the message boards, chances are with so many people your problem has been encountered before. In fact, I've found the tech support forum to be quite helpful.

thesupermikey 01-30-2006 07:56 PM

thank for everyones help

ive dropped my graphics all the way down, and drop the to 800x600 and it is running much better.

ive had some hard locks, not sure what the deal with that is. While trying to figure out if it was a hardwear problem (WoW helped me find a dead stick of RAM) i found that i also had a dead fan on my CPU. I could be having Heat issues.

Again, thanks for the help

Frosstbyte 01-31-2006 12:14 AM

Dead ram and broken CPU fan would both do it. I expect you'll find things running a lot smoother after you get those two things fixed.

Gabbyness 01-31-2006 06:07 AM

I had a heat issue a few months ago and intermittent hard locks were a result of that. Every few hours the game would just stop working, completely. It was actually very easy to diagnose and fix (move the damn computer out of a closet you nit-wit).

CityOfAngels 01-31-2006 11:46 AM

So, what server is everyone on? As I stated before, I have an undead priest (Anglofdth) on Alexstrasza, and I started a new human warrior (Tongva) on Kul Tiras.

I've found that when there's a long queue for your character's realm, just start a new one in another realm. Eventually you'll have characters in each realm, so you'll never have to wait in a queue unless your intentions are character-specific. plus, it's kinda fun to play on different servers; getting to know everyone in WoW. Wish I could meet some of you!

dabossy2k 01-31-2006 11:52 AM

Well my main chars are on Nerzhul, I also have a char on Spirestone which is a low to medium server for all the days I dont feel like dealing with lag. I also have a chars on Dunemaul for the days I feel like being with the horde and killing some Alliance. I also play on Halx's server which is silvermoon I think. I think all the main chars I play are above 40's which is nice cause man not having a mount sucks.

KWSN 01-31-2006 12:30 PM

I went and collected all 50 of those coins, hopefully I get something sexy in the mail. Probably not though.

CityOfAngels 01-31-2006 12:32 PM

Ah, I see. Well I'm a super n00b, so you probably wouldn't want to meet up with my chars. :p I was thinking of starting a new thread called "WoW - Roll Call", and have that be strictly a roll call thread, leaving this one for discussion (that way we won't have to fish through this thread to see where everyone is at), but I'm not sure if they want two WoW threads running at once.

Cynthetiq 01-31-2006 01:20 PM

actually there is a general one for all games....

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=99022

Zeraph 01-31-2006 01:40 PM

In order I'm most likely to be playing
Shadow Council (RP) Horde, CName Daghda
Bleeding Hollow (PvP) Alliance, CName Clandestine
Meh, I just decided to list those two, the rest of the servers I rarely play anymore. Tough to say if I'll be playing the game for much longer though, but even in general I would recommend shadow council, its a great server but I think I'm the only one from tfp who plays on there.

I would only focus on one character pretty soon, don't make too many alts or youll get sick of the game before you have a chance to level up enough to see new areas. Eventually you'll want only 1 main and 1 alt.

MrFlux 02-01-2006 02:38 AM

Got some new threads from the festival hehe.

http://mrflux.orcon.net.nz/wow/robes.jpg

CityOfAngels 02-01-2006 10:30 AM

Nice threads, Flux! :)

Gah I've had soooo much bad luck trying to play this game. First, it didn't work at all because I had on-board video. So I bought a video card. While installing the video card, I found that crappy eMachines purposely made it so I had to choose between my hard drive and a video card by giving me short power supply wires. So the game works, but is extremely choppy for obvious reasons. I ordered an extension (splitter, actually), which is still in transit to my place, so I'm just waiting, playing my trial.

I decide I want to authenticate my trial because I was planning on playing for awhile anyways, and I found out the hard way that trial accounts can't use the auction house and can't trade (I could've made a nice silver last night if it weren't for that). So I bought the game off eBay (I'm boycotting EBGames), and I chose that particular auction because they said they were willing to open the box for me and E-Mail the CD Key to me. So I pay immediately with PayPal, but they say they can't send me the CD Key until I verify my account.

My PayPal account isn't verified because I don't use a bank. I hate banks and I think they should all burn in hell (Wells Fargo was my first and only experience using a bank). But I have a card on file, and I have references. I explain that to him, giving him ALL of my contact info (Name, Address, Phone Number, E-Mail, AIM, my myspace page, and even my WoW characters), but he says he can't send me the key unless I scan my I.D. in super-large resolution for him. This coming from a guy in Hong Kong raised my alerts (I'm not trying to have my identity stolen just so I can play WoW), so I decided not to and asked for a refund. So here I am, trial account expired, no CD key, and I've yet to receive my refund.

All I wanted to do was play WoW. :(

Cynthetiq 02-01-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityOfAngels
Nice threads, Flux! :)

Gah I've had soooo much bad luck trying to play this game. First, it didn't work at all because I had on-board video. So I bought a video card. While installing the video card, I found that crappy eMachines purposely made it so I had to choose between my hard drive and a video card by giving me short power supply wires. So the game works, but is extremely choppy for obvious reasons. I ordered an extension (splitter, actually), which is still in transit to my place, so I'm just waiting, playing my trial.

I decide I want to authenticate my trial because I was planning on playing for awhile anyways, and I found out the hard way that trial accounts can't use the auction house and can't trade (I could've made a nice silver last night if it weren't for that). So I bought the game off eBay (I'm boycotting EBGames), and I chose that particular auction because they said they were willing to open the box for me and E-Mail the CD Key to me. So I pay immediately with PayPal, but they say they can't send me the CD Key until I verify my account.

My PayPal account isn't verified because I don't use a bank. I hate banks and I think they should all burn in hell (Wells Fargo was my first and only experience using a bank). But I have a card on file, and I have references. I explain that to him, giving him ALL of my contact info (Name, Address, Phone Number, E-Mail, AIM, my myspace page, and even my WoW characters), but he says he can't send me the key unless I scan my I.D. in super-large resolution for him. This coming from a guy in Hong Kong raised my alerts (I'm not trying to have my identity stolen just so I can play WoW), so I decided not to and asked for a refund. So here I am, trial account expired, no CD key, and I've yet to receive my refund.

All I wanted to do was play WoW. :(

sounds like you made it exceptionally hard on yourself not dealing with EBgames and banks.... do you boycott places like Buy.com? or any other places that you could purchase it from?

seems like you're making it needlessly difficult....

YaWhateva 02-01-2006 12:37 PM

or you could just go to Walmart or Bestbuy or Target or Circuit City.

CityOfAngels 02-02-2006 04:46 AM

Long story about the boycott. It is for good reason.

Great news! I purchased it off of a reputable seller on tradegamenow, and now I'm authenticated! Now all I need to do is make sure I get that refund, and install the splitter when it arrives! Whoohoo! :)

I've been using "Tongva" on Kul Tiras a lot lately. There seems to be no queues on that realm.

Crack 02-02-2006 05:49 AM

Bracers of Arcane Accuracy
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=17078

Lookie what I got! Bracers of Arcane Accuracy > sex :P

My guild on Bleeding Hollow (alliance) took down Razergore/Vaelastrasz the Corrupt/Broodlord Lashlayer in 1 night, first ever try on Broodlord, and we had Firemaw to 40% before we called it a night, gonna pick up again tommarow.

Next on my list to get the Mantle of the Blackwing Cabal....

Scorps 02-02-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSN
I went and collected all 50 of those coins, hopefully I get something sexy in the mail. Probably not though.


humm I guess thats why I saw the same Taruen in SW and Darn in the same night...lol

P-Naughty 02-03-2006 10:01 AM

My guild just downed Ebonroc and Flamegor for the first time last night. :cool: Flamegore is such a knockover...
Chromaggus is a bitch, though. But over an hour and a half of trying out different strats we finally got one that doesn't suck and got him down to 61% before calling it quits for the night.

Hunley - NE Rogue of High Guarde
Detheroc server (US)

Frosstbyte 02-03-2006 10:54 AM

After you get a good placement and get used to his effects, Chromaggus is really only hard because he has a lot of HP and you can't keep heavy DPS on him because of needing to LoS every twenty seconds. It can be hard to keep everyone paying attention and doing their jobs for a 10-20 minute long fight (depending on whether or not you get timelapse).

That's really one of the big differences between MC and BWL for me. In MC, most of the bosses take under ten minutes and if one or two people mess up it's really not going to make any difference. In BWL, the bosses routinely take more than ten minutes and if people get tired or lazy, it's just as easy to wipe at 5% as it is at 90%. Vael is the big exception to this, obviously, but many of the other fights take a pretty long time. That being said, turning into a drakonid at 10% on Chrom because I wasn't getting my debuffs removed and wiping the raid was one of the funnier things that has happened to me.

KWSN 02-04-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pain Train
humm I guess thats why I saw the same Taruen in SW and Darn in the same night...lol

lol getting the coins in the alliance cities was the most fun part. i was having fun dancing with the alliance in IF until some stupid gnome rogue started attacking me... then everyone else joined in. way to ruin the party :(

Zeraph 02-04-2006 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSN
lol getting the coins in the alliance cities was the most fun part. i was having fun dancing with the alliance in IF until some stupid gnome rogue started attacking me... then everyone else joined in. way to ruin the party :(

Isn't it facinating how that mob/frenzy/animal mentality can be activated so quickly in this (all?) game?

Reese 02-04-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
Bracers of Arcane Accuracy
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=17078

Lookie what I got! Bracers of Arcane Accuracy > sex :P

That'd be cool if the link wasn't Sapphiron Drape.


Bracers or Arcane Accuracy can be found here :)
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19374

I wish my priest had some uber gear like that :(

CityOfAngels 02-04-2006 11:02 PM

People of Earth, I am stuck on Kul Tiras. I've only been playing this game for a few days and it has become an addiction for me. I would stop right now if it weren't such a great game. Plus, I got my Y adapter for my video card, so I'm no longer experiencing any frame skips. The Gryphon rides are sooo beautiful, and the game itself is just soooo immersive. I deleted Anglofdth and I decided to focus on Tongva, my human warrior. Here he is:

http://www.gamesandbkbcards.com/WoW/tongvalvl16.jpg

Someone save me from this amazing game, please. I don't want to die without a social life! Ok back to WoW. :p

Crack 02-05-2006 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike
That'd be cool if the link wasn't Sapphiron Drape.


Bracers or Arcane Accuracy can be found here :)
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19374

I wish my priest had some uber gear like that :(

haha, that it is... oops. all in good time, all in good time. in fact, he is 2nd in line to get his benidiction!

Lasereth 02-07-2006 10:32 PM

You guys aren't gonna believe what just dropped off of Rag. I plead my case to the guild about me being the number 1 PVP'er (all I've did in the game for the past year) and it looks like my reputation and guild loyalty has paid off.

http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/omg.jpg

Frosstbyte 02-07-2006 11:03 PM

WOOO! Congrats Las! Enjoy putting on the beat down with that thing!

Cynthetiq 02-08-2006 05:13 AM

Finally got my hunter up to 60 on Saturday morning... I haven't had time to play since then and maybe I'll have time tomorrow night for a bit, and some over this weekend. But right now my weeknights are getting very full each week, leaving only the weekends to play.

Carno 02-08-2006 05:25 AM

Bleghh... I haven't had any time to play at all, nor much motivation since my guild went down the tubes.

Redjake 02-08-2006 03:04 PM

just some recent quotes from Lasereth (we're brothers)

"I mean Jesus I can bring it up in job interviews, "yeah I have my BSBA and a major in IS........and I have Sulfurus"

"IT'S FUCKING ORANGE!! ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!"

"did you see pat's PVP video? the famous one? that's ME in two weeks!!!!!!"

me: aren't you sword spec?
Lasereth: shut up it's 375 max damage who cares

BuDDaH 02-08-2006 03:14 PM

Let me introduce you to the current #3 PVP hunter on Silvermoon server.
Buddar
(formerly known as Buddah until someone complained to Blizzard and then they changed it..)
Rank 12 (Marshal)

http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc24/t...706_192946.jpg

Here's another shot awhile ago. (Notice me in my then AWESOME full Beaststalkers set. This is after my first MC run, we downed Gehan on our first run..
http://img140.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_e8d46_gehan.jpg

Here are some gratitutious action shots during one AV encounter. I bet it hurt..

http://img140.imagevenue.com/loc24/t...306_023224.jpg
I just was invited to an raiding guild, so this is a shot of us going for my Onyxia sinew for my epic bow quest..

http://img30.imagevenue.com/loc24/th...706_222058.jpg

My guild is sooooo off the chain and great. Not only when the sinew dropped, the Dragonstalker helm dropped and they awarded ME with it! (Everyone of the othe hunter are Giantstalker'ed out so I will become the first of the guild to get Dragonstalker.. WHEEEE!!! (Unless I get to Grand Marshal, then I'll have 4 sets or armor to choose from..)


http://img134.imagevenue.com/loc24/t...806_162512.jpg
Don't laugh and have me to have to hurt you.. :)

Frosstbyte 02-08-2006 04:37 PM

We just got our first thunderfury about 15 minutes ago! YES! I know it got nerfed, but it's still a nice status symbol and it looks totally sweet. The only downside: thunderran is a really really lame fight.

Additionally, thanks to the other hunters in my guild, I picked up DS belt and greaves tonight. Vael and Broodlord treated me well. HUGE upgrades from the pre-raid blues I'd been stuck with due to the gross lack of GS pieces I've seen for those slots.

Halx 02-08-2006 04:58 PM

Haha... Kupuri still gets deep breaths?

Halx 02-08-2006 05:33 PM

Here are a few of my pics..

Everyone remembers the fun they had in WPL.
http://www.labguild.com/pics/WoWScrn...706_012007.jpg

I am a very badass feral druid. Rockin' the Foror's Eyepatch, Doomhide Gauntlets, Eye of Hakkar and other various items that make rogues cry.
http://www.labguild.com/pics/WoWScrn...806_201200.jpg

Alas, there is a downside to being a competent feral druid. Please note: 4 cloaks, 4 bracers, 4 sets of pants.. etc...
http://www.labguild.com/pics/WoWScrn...806_201509.jpg

CityOfAngels 02-08-2006 07:14 PM

How many of you are on Bleeding Hollow? I started a new gnome rogue on there named, "Gnomefu". He is currently my alt, but I did, in fact, get this game to play with y'all.

Carno 02-08-2006 07:25 PM

I don't think you will be able to play with many of us at all. There are so many servers out there that there's like one TFPer on each server.

I'm on Malfurion, and far as I can tell, there are no other TFPers on there.

Lasereth 02-08-2006 08:45 PM

There's a few TFP'ers on Bleeding Hollow still. Probably 4 or 5 from this thread still playing.

Frosstbyte 02-09-2006 01:21 AM

Hal, just out of curiousity, have you guys had any luck bringing down Razorgore yet?

Also, I perused your website and I wondered why you require your guild members to have scrolling combat text. I've just started using it and I like it a lot, but it seems like a personal preference display mod as opposed to something like ctraidassist which has a multitude of group and event-related uses. Is there something about sct that I've totally missed that might be helpful?

And here are more SS for your enjoyment.

Here is what happens when hunters who are already exalted in AV get bored.
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/Frosstbyte/kitingkorrak.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/Frosstbyte/korrak2.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a>

This is what happens if your cleansers do a bad job during the Chrom fight. Look at my resistances and damage!
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/Frosstbyte/whoops.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a>

CityOfAngels 02-10-2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth
There's a few TFP'ers on Bleeding Hollow still. Probably 4 or 5 from this thread still playing.

Roll call! :)

Halx 02-10-2006 02:08 AM

We're starting on Razorgore tomorrow (tonight) so I'll let you know how our first night of attempts go. I'm confident that everyone knows what they need to do. Let's see how execution goes!

In other news.. tonight we finally completed our first Thekal/Arlokk fist weapon set. The set is best served on a warrior, however a rogue was the beneficiary.. just for the hell of it. I mean, who plays a fury warrior? Let's see.. the proc is fun, but sooooo rare. It took about 3 or 4 min to get this thing to go off. +300 attack power, and you turn into Tony the Tiger. The offhand is great, but the mainhand is 2.20 attack speed. Le suck for a rogue. You can tell by the damage meters on my SS that it sucks 'cause the rogue in question is usually #1 hands down.

http://www.labguild.com/pics/WoWScrn...006_030339.jpg
http://www.labguild.com/pics/WoWScrn...006_041824.jpg
http://www.labguild.com/pics/WoWScrn...006_042249.jpg

Cynthetiq 02-10-2006 05:12 AM

Nice to see you had one of my guildies Tanthus (nice aussie man) playing with you... :) I'm gonna have to send him this pic!

Halx 02-10-2006 06:20 AM

Actually Tanthus was just in the area while we were doing that demonstration. However, I did used to hang with a couple of your guildies.

To answer the question about SCT - the reason why I have it required is because it's a general tool for being able to stay alive longer. If you can see that you're taking damage on your screen, you can take action. Also, it lets you know if you're afflicted with something.. say... Living Bomb or Burning Adrenaline... as well, it lets you know if you're within the area of effect of a targeted AoE spell (for instance Gehennas' Rain of Fire... or some mage's Blizzard) and thus can promptly get your ass out of town.

I put the responsibility on everyone to stay alive... that is, of course, unless you're a tank, then you are solely dependant on heals. Otherwise, if you're DPS and you expect to be healed while you're happily jabbing away through aoe, cleave, and all that other stuff.. well.. it just doesn't work that way.

Frosstbyte 02-10-2006 02:53 PM

And that, in fact, is why I use it, too. The number of times it's saved me from taking more than once pulse of damage when I'm just BARELY inside a rain of fire from Gehennas or the BWL warlocks is already too high to count.

Good luck on Razor!

Halx 02-10-2006 11:19 PM

Razorgore down on second attempt.

We are fuckin' good.

Frosstbyte 02-11-2006 03:25 AM

Nice! Welcome to the horrors of Vael! Though...it sounds like your guild might be disciplined enough to handle him well, since it's mostly a discipline fight. Good luck!

Oh, just in case you didn't know, there are some goblin technicians in Vael's room who try to flee when you first come into the room and Nefarian does his mojo on Vael to make him 3v1l. They can drop elementium ore, so you don't want them to escape. Have everyone-druids and rogues using sprint, especially-charge in and do damage to the goblins so you kill them and get a shot at some ore. They do NOT respawn after any sort of reset other than a new raidlock, so if you miss them, they're gone for that week.

Halx 02-12-2006 02:28 PM

I gotta do some major scheming to get past Vael. Our raid is still very undergeared. It seems like our healers are getting all the loot. We've had one CHT drop.. and that's it. We can get past any fight that has more to do with skill than gear, but the 3min buff on Vael means we may have to screw around with even more consumables. To give you an idea of how undergeared we are... Today we killed rag for the first time without using the Onyxia buff. It was week 3 all over again.. killing him after enduring a second round of sons.

oi.

Frosstbyte 02-12-2006 03:14 PM

Every guild I've been in just calls a wipe (for good reason) if he's not dead by the second submerge, since everyone's dead and no one can organize the second sons. I'm in lazy guilds.

That being said, you might hold off on Vael until you're a bit more confident you're ready for him. He's an immensely frustrating (and expensive) boss to wipe on, so if you don't think you have the FR or the DPS to take him down yet, I'd power through MC and ZG and Thorium Brotherhood rep for a while first to make sure everyone has proper gear, since it's not going to get any easier later in the instance.

Jadedfox 02-12-2006 03:24 PM

Having farmed BWL since October, I honestly think Vael is the most difficult fight in the whole instance. It has some odd randomness to it.

--jaded

P-Naughty 02-12-2006 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jadedfox
Having farmed BWL since October, I honestly think Vael is the most difficult fight in the whole instance. It has some odd randomness to it.

--jaded

Agreed. After you get Vael and Razorgore down, the rest of the bosses are rather easy to push through. In all honesty, the thing that gets my guild the most wipes is bad pulling. Those "trash mob" fatties in there hit hard. Somehow we had an AoE glitch and pull half the trash from the platform below the one you fight Broodlord on. We had 15 or so engineers, 8 demons, 6 of the Broodlord lookalikes, and alot of the bloodelves and locks. And well... it reminded me of our first Vael attempt after we downed Razorgore.. in that we wiped in less than 5 seconds.

On a side note, does anyone else find it hard to play once you get a decently (5/8 tier 1, tier 2 pants, CHT/Bonescraper combo with 15 agil. on both, and quickstrike ring on my rogue) geared 60? It's nice and all, but I have to double up my work load here at college for a day to make raiding time. My PvP rank plummets a little more each week since I don't get any CP period. It has become more work than fun, and I just don't have the time.

Crack 02-13-2006 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halx
I gotta do some major scheming to get past Vael. Our raid is still very undergeared. It seems like our healers are getting all the loot. We've had one CHT drop.. and that's it. We can get past any fight that has more to do with skill than gear, but the 3min buff on Vael means we may have to screw around with even more consumables. To give you an idea of how undergeared we are... Today we killed rag for the first time without using the Onyxia buff. It was week 3 all over again.. killing him after enduring a second round of sons.

oi.

Wait, you use the onyxia buff? Why? I understand that it will help with the DPS and such, but with the right combo of classes and the right timing/player placement, DPS on rag should never be an issue, he will NEVER aggro range classes, and rogues/ random warriors should never pull aggro off of the main tank. Fire resist on the other hand is rough sometimes...
Do you use the LBRS buff too? I can honestly say that Rag is actually an easy fight once you get it down, my Guild on Bleeding Hollow (alliance) actually did him with 29 people, and 3 priests and 2 druids (Pally healing ftw) and the night before we did onyxia with 23 people and no dwarf priests! It's really all all about placement and the right combo of players and DPS that knows what they are doing.
I have killed rag upwards of 20+ times now, and the last time I did over 100,000 damage during the entire fight (including sons) which is huge for a moderately geared mage without either uber trinkets. And I was only 5-6 on the damage list, behind 2 rogues, and 2 locks, and another dual trinketed mage!

KWSN 02-13-2006 09:16 AM

My guild is on Firemaw, any particular strats that might help? The way we do it now is SO dependent on tank timing during the wing buffets that everything can go to shit if a single person messes up at any given percentage (our best attempt so far was 5%). Everyone tends to say this fight is pretty easy but to be honest we have a much easier time with Vael :-/

Frosstbyte 02-13-2006 10:15 AM

Unfortunately, with the drakes, you really have no option other than for your offtanks to be on the ball during the fights and to make sure the wing buffet stays off the MT. Ebonroc, in that regard, is even worse, since you have to worry about wing buffet and the shadow of ebonroc debuff. Obviously, CTraidassist makes doing this quite a bit easier. If you'd rather write your own timer mods or use a stopwatch, that's your deal, too, but there's no way to avoid the fact that you cannot beat the drakes if your MT keeps getting hit with wing buffet.

The upside is that once your tanks figure out the pattern, your guild shouldn't have any problems with any of the drakes and you'll see them as loot vending machines. Until they do "get it," however, there's not much anyone else in the guild can do to help you succeed. You might look at the website Hal linked with BWL strats a little while ago to make sure you have proper placement and exact strategy, though if you can get him to 5% you can get him to 0%.

echoibm 02-13-2006 12:36 PM

wow... i haven't been to TFP in a while, but i did start playing WoW about a month ago... it's a nice surprise to see so many of you guys playing. i'm on thunderlord, lvl 34 orc shaman. i have some friends who are apart of dead sexy...

glad to know that this community is apart of wow also.

Lasereth 02-13-2006 02:49 PM

We killed Razorgore last night after about 7 wipes. When we did kill him, it was easy as hell. Razorgore himself was a breeze...it was getting past phase 1 that sucked.

Then we tried Vael for shits and giggles. Here's a re-enactment:

"Alright, here we go!! Vael time! 3 sunders guys, full DPS!!"

I Mortal Striked him once, then all 6 warriors died in under 5 seconds. The entire 40-man raid was dead in 15 seconds.

I've never laughed so hard at being owned that bad in my entire WoW playtime. There was constant laughter on TS for a solid minute. We got completely bitch slapped. :thumbsup:

Frosstbyte 02-13-2006 03:04 PM

That sounds familiar. Good times, good times.

Halx 02-13-2006 03:32 PM

In all my experience, Ragnaros is a pure DPS/gear fight. It's simple - if you have the gear and the DPS, his health goes down fast and you win. If you don't, then you lose. We only have a few purples distributed throughout our damage classes, and thus our overall DPS is relatively low. That's wonderful that someone has somehow managed to kill him with 29 moderately geared people... everyone must really know how to get the absolute most out of their class... however, my guild is still pretty fuckin' good (read up.. razorgore down.. 2nd attempt) and we have DPS problems on Rag. We're a laid back guild and I don't require much individually of my members, so what? Is anyone gonna say we suck? I didn't think so.

Anyways, we'll be attempting Vael until we get the strategy down. At which point, I will do what I did for Rag... CALL IN THE BUFFS.

Lasereth 02-13-2006 08:22 PM

Yeah, Rag is 25% coordination and 75% beating the fuck out of him with good gear. Our guild was having problems with coordination, but once we got that 25% part down, we annihilated him (our first kill was 30% before sons). We have 3-4 rogues come to Rag, with all 4 mainhanding Perdition's/Brutality Blade and a majority of them with an epic offhand as well. ALL of our warriors have epic 2-handers. It's simply a pure DPS fight. That's why I'm hoping Vael doesn't become too much of a problem.

Frosstbyte 02-14-2006 12:45 AM

Trying to under-man encounters I guess wold be a fun thing to be trying now that I'm getting pretty geared up, but my guild is simply way too large for it to be really feasible. We have 65-ish people on during BWL and MC clears these days and not enough geared people around to be able to run two groups simultaneously. If they took down rag with 25-30 people, there'd be a lot of people upset about missing out on a shot at that loot, even if the feat itself were impressive.

I'm not such a fan of how big my guild is, actually. We have close to 100 active 60s and another 150 alts and below 60-mains. The guild situation on Shattered Hand is just too established for me to have much lateral movement opportunity to a smaller guild. I wish I had time to undertake Hal's endeavor and get my friends organized into a guild of about 55-60 people total to burn through stuff.

BigGov 02-15-2006 02:26 AM

At least you people have reached the end-game content, I still haven't faced more than trash mobs in MC...

I've done a few bosses in ZG, but a 20 person instance isn't the same. I've seen a mage soloing trash mobs.

The only guilds that can consistantly take down high end bosses aren't recruiting, the majority of other level 60 guilds are awful, yet I don't wanna leave because I know so many people on the server.

I hate you WoW...

Xiomar 02-15-2006 09:22 AM

I think its time to change servers. Mine is dead :(

dabossy2k 02-15-2006 09:41 AM

Xiamar your from the bay area huh where abouts if your thinkin bout switchin servers man I am looking for something new to my server isnt dead but way to hard to get into some of the guilds that do anything

Halx 02-15-2006 09:59 AM

Roll alliance priests on Silvermoon :p

dabossy2k 02-15-2006 10:17 AM

Lol Hal man I went though the silvermoon thing and I might do it again cause I just got my second box up and running to I can 2 box a priest with something else. But we'll see what happens.

CityOfAngels 02-15-2006 10:02 PM

When I first started playing this game, I was enthralled. Now, only about a week or so later, I tire of it. I tire of it not because of the game itself; but rather the new bouts of lag I've been forced to succumb to. Once I got my video card issue fixed, the game ran smooth as a baby's bottom. But now for some reason, I can only hope to not get serious lag late at night or early in the morning.

That means if I want to participate in the battlegrounds, I get hour-long queue times. That means that when I throw my auction items up for sale, it's during a time when there aren't as many people playing. That means that the people I used to team up with to complete missions are asleep, and unless I find others, I find myself grinding for experience so I can level up high enough to complete all my quests solo.

Yeah, I'm complaining. Yeah I know it's annoying and that people with computers that cost them multi-thousands of dollars don't expect any lag except database lag. But the fact remains that my computer handled the game perfectly long enough for me to get hooked to this game and fall in love with its immersion. Now the lag only pisses me off every time I play, as I can't walk two steps in Ironforge without being sent into an involuntary 180; as I attack a defias trapper, only for the game to freeze and finally refresh when the entire gang of defias is in the process of jumping me, leaving me with only enough HP to run for a few seconds as they hack my toon to death.

But this saddens me, because I truly do love this game. Many of you know I went through semi-great lengths just to get it to work properly on my computer. But now I find myself wanting to log on, but not, because I know it will only piss me off when I go to talk to an NPC and then it disconnects me.

Blizzard...what have you done to me?

Sage 02-15-2006 10:07 PM

Man, like....

My video card is not even on the market anymore and I don't get lag hardly EVER.... and my computer didn't cost a ton of money....

I am confused by all the people who complain about lag....

Scorps 02-16-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigGov
At least you people have reached the end-game content, I still haven't faced more than trash mobs in MC...

I've done a few bosses in ZG, but a 20 person instance isn't the same. I've seen a mage soloing trash mobs.

The only guilds that can consistantly take down high end bosses aren't recruiting, the majority of other level 60 guilds are awful, yet I don't wanna leave because I know so many people on the server.

I hate you WoW...



Thats why i joined up with a giuild that is in the middle of getting a endgame guild built, like we are going tp run MC for the first time saturday, with one of are allaince guilds (we got 3 other friendly guilds, thats the key:D)

CityOfAngels 02-17-2006 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage
Man, like....

My video card is not even on the market anymore and I don't get lag hardly EVER.... and my computer didn't cost a ton of money....

I am confused by all the people who complain about lag....

Your server must be steadily populated, or as Blizzard would probably say: "Underpopulated."

Scorps 02-17-2006 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityOfAngels
Your server must be steadily populated, or as Blizzard would probably say: "Underpopulated."


Windrunner used to be ok Lag but last night was weird super heavy lag and there was hardly anyone online, the server must have needed a reboot!

portwineboy 02-17-2006 10:27 AM

On Moonrunner I've been seeing a lot of database lag lately. Sometimes a large raid will cause actual frame rate lag but usually it's database...you can't loot, tradeskill, buy/sell...it's been horrid. The server population is pretty high but they haven't closed it. I really think Bliz should lower whatever numbers they "think" they can handle...

Xiomar 02-17-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabossy2k
Xiamar your from the bay area huh where abouts if your thinkin bout switchin servers man I am looking for something new to my server isnt dead but way to hard to get into some of the guilds that do anything


Well, I have friends on various servers. Thinkin bout one to go too. What one are you on? It might sway my choice :)

EDIT: And I reside in Dublin, ATM :D :thumbsup:

ObieX 02-17-2006 10:51 PM

I've never really had much of a problem with lag on whisperwind as far as combat or movement is concerned. The mail can somtimes take a while to get into my inventory.. but other than that we're runnin rather smooth at all times (even when full)

KWSN 02-17-2006 11:48 PM

Since I last bitched about Firemaw, we've cleared the drakes. Ebonroc and Flamegor died tonight. Chromaggus.... is going to be interesting. We've got green/red affliction and the best guild on the server (Shadows of the Horde) who have had EVERYTHING on farm status for months wiped with this combo last week. Soooooo yeah. Good learning experience I guess.

Xiomar 02-17-2006 11:54 PM

Basically, what it has come down to is that I have reached lvl 57, NEVER raided ANYTHING, and no guild stable enough to last. So, I am frustrated with the "end-game" content for my solo-in ass. Thats why I need a server where I can find a home. Don't mind doin the grind thing again, just as long as when I get there, I have somewhere to belong. :hmm:

KWSN 02-18-2006 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
Unfortunately, with the drakes, you really have no option other than for your offtanks to be on the ball during the fights and to make sure the wing buffet stays off the MT. Ebonroc, in that regard, is even worse, since you have to worry about wing buffet and the shadow of ebonroc debuff. Obviously, CTraidassist makes doing this quite a bit easier. If you'd rather write your own timer mods or use a stopwatch, that's your deal, too, but there's no way to avoid the fact that you cannot beat the drakes if your MT keeps getting hit with wing buffet.

The upside is that once your tanks figure out the pattern, your guild shouldn't have any problems with any of the drakes and you'll see them as loot vending machines. Until they do "get it," however, there's not much anyone else in the guild can do to help you succeed. You might look at the website Hal linked with BWL strats a little while ago to make sure you have proper placement and exact strategy, though if you can get him to 5% you can get him to 0%.

Yea, realizing this is very much the case. After we killed Firemaw we had Ebonroc and Flamegor in 2 tries apiece. Ebonroc is really fun, I liked that one a lot. One of the more intense on vent, every 2 seconds "TAUNTS TAUNTS TAUNTS TAUNTS TAUNTS!!!" from the MT.

dun_ask 02-18-2006 01:13 AM

NEW ALLIANCE RACE
 
http://i1.tinypic.com/mj8ia1.jpg

Hordes don't stand a chance.

KWSN 02-18-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth
We killed Razorgore last night after about 7 wipes. When we did kill him, it was easy as hell. Razorgore himself was a breeze...it was getting past phase 1 that sucked.

Then we tried Vael for shits and giggles. Here's a re-enactment:

"Alright, here we go!! Vael time! 3 sunders guys, full DPS!!"

I Mortal Striked him once, then all 6 warriors died in under 5 seconds. The entire 40-man raid was dead in 15 seconds.

I've never laughed so hard at being owned that bad in my entire WoW playtime. There was constant laughter on TS for a solid minute. We got completely bitch slapped. :thumbsup:

If you're a warrior that's not tanking, you're going to be wanting to use Slam the whole fight. Over and over. Slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam... ad nauseaum.

Lasereth 02-18-2006 12:17 PM

Without Improved Slam, it seems like hitting MS, WW, and then Slam would be the best option. Slam over and over is high DPS, but I'd rather have 2 instances in 2 seconds that don't affect white swings rather than a 2 second cast ability that literally stops your weapon swing and prevents you from doing instants. Of course, we've tried Vael once, so I might be completely wrong. :)

BTW: I got Sulfuras about 2 hours ago. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll post some SS's later!

KWSN 02-19-2006 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth
Without Improved Slam, it seems like hitting MS, WW, and then Slam would be the best option. Slam over and over is high DPS, but I'd rather have 2 instances in 2 seconds that don't affect white swings rather than a 2 second cast ability that literally stops your weapon swing and prevents you from doing instants. Of course, we've tried Vael once, so I might be completely wrong. :)

BTW: I got Sulfuras about 2 hours ago. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll post some SS's later!

Grats man, thats quite a weapon :)

A shaman in our guild is one ingot away from his

Scorps 02-22-2006 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dun_ask
http://i1.tinypic.com/mj8ia1.jpg

Hordes don't stand a chance.



OMG this Chuck Norris thing has gone to far :hmm:

Zeraph 02-22-2006 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth

BTW: I got Sulfuras about 2 hours ago. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll post some SS's later!

Let's see, it's been 4 days since he posted that, I'd guess he hasn't stopped playing with his new toy yet. :D

Lasereth if you can hear me take a shower and get some food! :lol:

Scheme 02-23-2006 01:10 AM

there's 38 pages to treck through so it's gonna take me a while but does anyone play on spinebreaker?

Frosstbyte 02-23-2006 03:26 AM

Just as a tip to everyone out there: hope that Ashkandhi (the ridiculous two-handed sword off Nef) either never drops for you or drops every single time so it's not an issue. I have seen more trouble come from this one item than anything else in the game. The hunters and warriors in my guild kind of aren't talking to one another right now because of how it was given out tonight. Another guild on my server held Nef's body open for two hours (!!!) deciding if it should be given to an alt warrior or a main hunter when the alt warrior had more DKP and then had a bunch of gquits because they decided to give it to the alt warrior.

I'm completely serious. They killed Nef before we pulled Chrom, we killed Chrom, then wiped on Nef-drakonids once, rebuffed, killed Nef, did loot, went to SW, hung the head, went back to IF and were gearing up for an Ony raid by the time they decided who to give the sword to. Totally ridiculous.

This isn't to start a loot debate here about who should be getting it, I've just never seen any other piece of loot make so many people so upset as this one does.

Edit: You've had enough time to get some sick SS of Sulfuras! Let's see that shit!

n0nsensical 02-25-2006 03:29 AM

I broke down and installed the WoW trial. I made a Human Mage on Silvermoon named Marsellus. He's black, he's bald, and he definitely does not look like a bitch. :D My initial impression is it's a lot like EQ, except there's less sitting around and dying. ;) I'm now level 8. I think the trials are capped at 20, and at this point I'm still not planning on buying the game, so that's probably where I'll stay for a while anyway.

Gabbyness 02-25-2006 07:30 AM

Non -

Be aware you miss out on a lot of the game by only doing the trial. For example, mailboxes, accumulating wealth, trading, etc.

I'm not trying to persuade you to buy the game, I'm simply letting you know ithe trial may not be a complete picture of WoW for when you make your decision to continue.

Frosstbyte 02-25-2006 09:40 PM

Dunno if anyone else's guild is doing it, but how are people dealing with the AQ20 spell books? Despite having a DKP bidding system that we use for everything else, my guild is free-rolling these books with the caveat that you can only win one per run. I happen to think it's a silly system, but they're common enough that I'm told we're better off not wasting DKP on them. Anyone else's guild have a more elegant solution?

MrFlux 02-26-2006 12:30 PM

Yeah, the simple solution is to just /roll on everything and not worry about DKP in AQ20 because for the most part the loot is worse than ZG >_>

Zeraph 02-26-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
Dunno if anyone else's guild is doing it, but how are people dealing with the AQ20 spell books? Despite having a DKP bidding system that we use for everything else, my guild is free-rolling these books with the caveat that you can only win one per run. I happen to think it's a silly system, but they're common enough that I'm told we're better off not wasting DKP on them. Anyone else's guild have a more elegant solution?

I think this is a more elegant solution, though you may not...
Make a list and each person gets one in order. base it on amount of DKP, so the person with the highest DKP gets the first one..and so on down the list. That way its still based on seniority (which is basically what DKP is except you can use it up) but you dont bother spending your actual points. Obviously the list would freeze and would not go up or down if someone spent their points, if someone already got one then just go to the next person on the list.

n0nsensical 02-26-2006 07:23 PM

...edited..delete if you care to...

Lasereth 02-27-2006 09:03 AM

Ha ha sorry guys. I was away for the weekend and I honestly forgot that I didn't post here. I got a few new armor pieces since Sulfuras as well!

http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/SulfurasA.jpg
http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/SulfurasB.jpg
http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/SulfurasC.jpg

Zeraph 02-27-2006 04:16 PM

Lasereth- What were you using before and how much of a power jump does it feel like? Just curious.

Frosstbyte 02-27-2006 08:49 PM

All that PvP gear and you just toss it out the window for MC epics!

Hope you're enjoying melting faces with that thing.

Lasereth 02-27-2006 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeraph
Lasereth- What were you using before and how much of a power jump does it feel like? Just curious.

I was using an Obsidian Edged Blade before. Big power increase, but it doesn't make me invulnerable. I still need a healer to be really effective in PVP, but in 1 v 1, I rarely lose now (as opposed to winning maybe 40-50% of the time before...and I'm really good at fighting).

For example, today 2 60 warlocks attacked me in the tunnel in WSG and I killed both without a healer. That would have been the joke of the century with my OEB!! I'm working on a PVP video, but I have no idea what I'm doing so it's gonna take a while.

Lasereth 02-27-2006 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
All that PvP gear and you just toss it out the window for MC epics!

Hope you're enjoying melting faces with that thing.

Pretty sad. :( The week I got rank 10 I got my first epic armor pieces. Since then they've rolled in. I now use my PVP breastplate and the bracers out of the entire damned set (10 pieces).

Lasereth 02-27-2006 09:14 PM

PS: Sulfuras has a higher proc rate than Sword Spec. I'm guessing it's somewhere around 6-7%...it goes off like 1-4 times per fight!!

Pragma 02-28-2006 07:29 AM

So, I finally hit 60 over the weekend and got in on the ground floor with my guild doing MC. I've missed out on all of the ZG runs, but I've been along for all but one MC run. We've taken down Lucifron (first try), Magmadar (a few wipes, but got him), Gehennas (first try), and Garr (two wipes).

This week, we're hoping to take them all down again and push through up to Sulfuron. We had a bunch of good drops, though I didn't have enough points accumulated to even bother rolling on anything. The really big drop was that Bindings of the Windseeker (right half) dropped for us off Garr, and so our main tank is now drooling over the thought of getting the Thunderfury. Only one person on our server (Greymane) has it.

I respecced from Beast Mastery (which is what I'd been all along - so much fun for soloing) to a 5/31/15 Marksmanship build and am now right up near the top of damage meters, even with my mix of greens and blues. Before I respecced, my top crit was 1700 with Aimed Shot, and then over the weekend during a wipe on Magmadar, I crit on him for 2300 - instant aggro gain = one dead hunter ;)

Redjake 02-28-2006 06:03 PM

Rank 8 finally happened. Thank God. 10 isn't too far off. I want it bad.

Frosstbyte 02-28-2006 07:47 PM

I can't bringmyself to go back to 5/31/15. I know my raid DPS would go up pretty significantly, but I just love being able to live through everything a bit too much.

Halx 03-01-2006 10:19 AM

So I'm like goin' .. WTF. So ya.. we killed Razorgore on our second attempt ever. That was 3 weeks ago and we haven't killed him since. On our first attempt we had 5 druid and 5 locks. Ever since then, we've been rolling with half that. Those dragonkin are fuckin' us up. Last week we spent all fuckin Friday night working on the encounter. We wiped about 12 times and still couldn't get him down. Our last 4 times or so, we got to Razorgore himself, and with a BUNCH of people up, but then he seemed to be 2-shotting our tanks. We coulda killed him on one attempt if I had called for an all out nuke after he took out our MT in half a second, but I told everyone to stop attacking.. sigh. This friday we will have revenge.


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