Strange Famous

my BMI is 43.4

I feel like shit.

I guess, I mean it is nothing other than what I do that has made me like this, but I really feel rock bottom... I know there is no magic to weight loss, you just must burn more calories than you consume... but I just feel so hopeless and shitty.

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SiN

Quit wallowing/hiding in it.

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iamnormal

I am super obese and iamnormal.

Strange Famous

I guess if it was as easy as wanting to or knowing it would be better for me if I did, I would have done that years ago.

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SiN

SF - I'm not meaning to be overly harsh, honestly.

It's just, that my observations lead me to believe there's security/safety issues involved.
you hate it, but it's all you know, and keeps you from moving forward. (change == scary).

and it's not just you, I think this is a general human thing.

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superiorrain

My advice is have a cup of tea (without suger) and chill out. It won't be easy to lose weight but then again won't be as hard as you may think. I'm assuming you want to cut down on the pounds. If so instead of snacking throughout the day on whatever you snack on have a tea or other warm drink; do this everytime you feel the need to eat. Something about warm drinks telling the brain this is like food therefore it will be fulfilled. Also it concentrates the mind away from food.

Another thing that you could try doing if you don't already do so is cook your own food. I don't mean put some pre cooked stuff in the oven/mircowave and consume, i mean cook from raw ingrediants. Not only do you not feel so hungry after cooking but after while you get so bored of cooking lots, you gradually cook less and less till you cook the bare minimum that you need. Plus all this standing around putting this energy in to chopping and cleaning veg is like a little workout.

Final advice that doesn't contain doing alot of exercise is stop drinking the soft drinks and subsitute for water. I done this about 3 years back and you only have cravings in the two weeks and thereafter its plain sailing. Know i can even drink the cokes of the world i just hate the sweetness. More you drink the fuller you'll feel meaning the less you're want to eat. Fruit and veg are better than chocolate and crisp.

Hope some of this helps. Sure other people will suggest other things that are better than all this advice but i'd say start small and build you way up to your goals. Good Luck.

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zenmaster10665

strangefamous:

I have read all your other posts in health and fitness and I have some advice that I think might help...

check out this website.

John Stone

read a bit in the forums. There are tons of people in there who were very overweight and now are in the best shape of their life, simply by doing some research and getting motivated. This site has changed a *lot* of people's lives, including the site's owner, who has documented the process daily with food logs and pictures...and everyone there is incredibly supportive and helpful.

I just got on there about 3 months ago when I decided I was tired of walking around with the extra weight i put on since college and in 3 months I am in better shape than 5 years ago...It just took some research, some dedication and some serious thought about where I wanted to be. (And what i wanted to look like when I am in Thailand for 4 months diving and surfing )

You can do it. Seriously. SiN is right, you have to have confidence in yourself that you can make the change, and you will.

No shit. Check out the website, surf the forums, do some reading on Nutrition and Cardio and in 4 months you will be a new man. I kid you not.

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spindles

My ex-wife really wanted to lose weight. She did 2 things:
1. got pre-prepared food delivered to our home
2. joined a gym and went everyday

#1 made sure that she was eating a calorie controlled diet. #2 was burning off excess.

The first few days were quite hard but once she was over the initial hunger, the weight really started falling off. She went from a size 16 to size 10/12, kept it off and looked fantastic. Too bad she was a cow in other ways

Just remember that you are in charge of what goes into your mouth!

Good luck with it.

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athletics

SF, I know how you feel. I have worked with people to get their weight down. You can do it. It takes will power, but its easy to build it up piece by piece. Here is how you do it.

First, like spindles said...join a gym

Then look at your diet. Write down what you eat every day. Even when you drink water. Take a log for 5 days. Add up the calories too. You can add those up, or look them up each night online. Some foods arent properly listed.

Then, look at the 5 day list of food. Pick out the things you know you need to stop eating/drinking. In broad terms like snack foods (cheetos, chips), fried foods, sugary foods.

One by one, each week...stop eating that one thing. Replace it with something more healthy. I can go on if you want. But this is a good start.

And you might think, what do I do with that gym membership? Go. Get on a bike and ride for 20 minutes. Add 5 minutes each week.

powerclown

Well, at least you're well fed.
I hear starvation is BRUTAL.

Clark

superiorrain I was about to post the same thing.

I am 5'10'' and toped out at 315 I am still working but am now down to 270. The first 15 ponds I lost were from giving up fast food and soda. I did not work out or change any thing about my life. After that I needed to make other changes inorder to loose more. But start small once you start loosing you billed momentom.

Good Luck

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Garrineese

I have never been obese, but I weighed in at about 190 pounds in high school. I was only 5' 5". Not really fat but chubby. I finally decided that I was really going to try to lose the weight. I would pick a bad eating habit every other week and fix it. I started with soda. Then I moved on to things that I used to gourge on (pop-tarts, ice-cream, little debbie snacks). You just got to change your lifestyle slowly, week by week. If you try to turn it around overnight you're doomed to fail.

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DelayedReaction

I weighed around 300 near the end of my junior year of college, and I decided to do something about my weight. What worked great for me was getting myself involved in activities that were strenous but fun, and cutting off the really crappy foods. For me that meant doing volunteer work at a theater (building sets for 3+ hours a day on a stage without AC during the summer does wonders), and swapping from regular coke to diet coke. That, combined with some other lifestyle changes, made me lose 25 pounds in a month.

Now I'm at a steady 280, and I've found a great group of guys to lift with every other day. I'm still weak, but they've given me confidence at it feels fantastic.

So get out there, find people to work with, and get motivated.

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thingstodo

All this advice is right on. One thing I didn't notice when skimming through was any advice on therapy. There are deeper reasons behind your weight that are some of the basis for how you eat. Exploring those will help. You have an addiction, and all addicitions follow the same fundamental path for recovery.

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Schwan

All the advice is very good. I've had a BMI of 35 reduced to 25, most of it due to the fact that I've stopped drinking any soft drinks. Add some excercise from time to time and you're bound to loose at least 5 BMI points right there. Once you hit that mileston, you'll be psychically ready to move on to regular excersizing and dieting. But the first step is always in your head. I had it easier - I broke down after my dad died, and things sort of started happening and before I knew it I was loosing weight. That worked for me, but everyone has their own set of triggers. I hope this helps in any way.

Nefir

Hey there, Strange Famous. There's alot of great advice in this thread.

This process is hard work, and requires alot of will power. You've already taken the first step - admitting that you've got a problem.

The next steps, like dieting, exercise, etc. take varying degrees of willpower.

I can tell you that, in my own experience, cutting out stuff like soda and junk food from your diet is extremely easy and worthwhile, and its even easier if you initally replace it with something healthy instead of just leaving a gap. ie: soft drinks become diet ice tea (Turkey Hill makes a really good one); pre-cooked meals become something more healthy, like a fish filet (very easy to cook).

Also, if its not in your fridge, it will never end up on your plate. Don't buy stuff that you know is bad for you. Its usually easier to control yourself at the store than in the kitchen.

Definitely join a gym. Its alot more motivating to exercise with other exercising people rather than by yourself.

Good luck!

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st33lr4t

new thread same shit. seriously stop feelings sorry for yourself and actually try doing something about it...or continue to feel shitty until life passes you by..either way i personally dont care. you have the tools, stop make excusses for not using them.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=65157

Now i dont personally know you but reading some of the various posts you make on this board you have a very negative outlook on things. maybe an attitude change will help you look at things with a positive outlook and help you accomplish your "goal".

zenmaster10665

Strange Famous...I would definitely suggest that you go back through that old thread that steelrat quoted. A lot of people made a lot of suggestions 2-3 months ago and their advice remains good advice.

you have to really want to change, not just pay lipservice to change.

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Chuckles

exercise. cut the calories and exercise.

denim

Yeah, that's about right. I feel your pain, brother.

victorjara

SF

Just 4 words:

GO TO OVEREATERS ANONYMOUS

www.oa.org


You are not alone.

Willravel

Well done!
My advise, get up from your chair in front of your comp, and go do something. Don't stress. Stop going to fast food, and no more candy for a while. Go for walks around the block every day for a few weeks.

bookerV

Everyone has already given all the advice that you will ever need and more. Stop looking for pity attention and stop feeling sorry for yourself. If you really want to get off the ground and feel good about yourself then MAKE IT HAPPEN. You CAN do it, but you have to WANT to do it. Nobody else can do it for you. I don't want to sound harsh, I'm just giving you the straight up truth. Start watching what you eat. Stop drinking. Work out as much as possible. Start out slow and build from there. All the info you need can be found on the web. All the links you need are in this very forum. You already know what to do, you just have to make yourself do it. It may not be easy, but it's definitely better than what you are feeling now...

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Slavakion

I don't think that anyone has mentioned this yet, but you could try having smaller meals more frequently. Supposedly you get real hungry in between meals on a 3-a-day diet, and end up eating more than you should. Breaking it up into 5 meals should prevent that. If your job/lifestyle doesn't permit that, cut back the meals a little and have healthy snacks. Something like a few carrot sticks, wheat crackers, an orange, whatever.

Oh and have sex as often as possible. I can't remember the numbers, but it burns quite a few calories

majik_6

Strange Famous: I know this has been a tough thing for you, and you've made a few attempts to try and reform your health. However, I know from experience that no matter how bad you think you want to lose weight, you're not going to be able to truly be successful with it until you have a reason and are willing to work for it.

When I was younger, I was always going for a few weeks dieting every now and then, and my weight kept yo-yoing until it reached a high of 300 in my senior year of highschool. I kept saying that I wanted to change it, and that I was unhappy, but I didn't really have the motivation until last November. That month I lost the girl I thought I'd end up with forever. Being single again was the motivation I needed to get off my ass and start eating right and working out. In less than a year, I've dropped down to 230 pounds, and my waist went from 44/46 to 38. I feel better about myself than I ever did. And you know what? It wasn't as hard as I'd made it out to be my whole life. All it took were small modifications.

It's like I've said before: if you're willing to make (and keep) drastic changes in activity and diet, then yes you'll see good results. If you're not, then it won't matter how great your diet plan is, cause you won't be able to stick with it. However, maybe you'll be able to stick to gradual changes in eating and exercise. For me, the difference was just to start eating like a normal person instead of the unholy intake of calories it took to maintain my weight. I wasn't eating health-food, just normal portions of normal food. And it worked.

I genuinely hope that you're able to find your own motivation and do this for yourself. It's a great feeling to know that you're the master of your own body and life.

If you ever need support, feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to share any info I found out along the way.

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Harshaw

Yeah, I went from a 42inch waist to 38 in less than 6 months. Mostly, I stopped buying stuff like cookies, pies, etc... I just can't stop from eating that crap when it is in my house. Going from 38 to 36 is a little harder, but I feel so good looking compared to how I felt at 42.

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luvthefun

hey, I know exactly where your coming from. Two years ago I weighed 270lbs and I'm only 5'7". There was very little muscle and I was something like 40% body fat. Then I met one of my best friends and roommate. For the first semester I hated this kid. He purposefully made me feel shitty about myself. Now wait before you condem him. He saw that I needed a kick in the ass to get me started. I started going to the gym, not to lift weights but to go on the treadmill. When I started I couldn't even walk a quarter mile without wanted to stop. As I went on I would jog then walk then jog again untill i could jog better. By the end of the following summer I had lost 70 lbs and i was at 20% body fat. A nice improvment but I wanted to get better. Now i'm not suggesting that you do what I did next, I'm just telling how I got where I am today. I enlisted in the National Guard. Over that next school year I maintained my current standard. Then this past summer I went to Basic Combat Training. Thats where I really got in shape. It was constant exercise and a steady diet of water, chicken and fish. When I got back and started school this year I joined the ROTC program. I still run everyday and stay active with Raquetball. I weigh 175lbs and am at 9% body fat, when i started i was a 42 waste and now i wear size 30. The point of this that Rome wasn't built in a day. But if you want to be in shape you can be. The most important thing is to be consistant and not give up. I was the laziest person I knew and I didn't know any better. I hope this helps you see that its tough but doable. If i can do it, you can too.

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