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soccerchamp76 · 11-11-2005, 09:12 AM

I have heard some conflicting reports on the benefits/side-effects of running/cardio after lifting?

What are everybody's opinion on this???

Sultana · 11-11-2005, 10:19 AM

I've always done my cardio after lifting/bandwork/ball/whatever, and...no problems for me.

Can you be more specific about "conflicting results", and where you got the info. from?

Willravel · 11-11-2005, 10:26 AM

I've tried to do cardiovascular first and weight trainign first. I'm not sure why or how, but doing my weight training before my cardiovascular exercise has always worked better.

samcol · 11-11-2005, 05:41 PM

Cardio after lifting has always worked better for me too. Although, using the cardio time to lift more instead and taking creatine worked the best

Rodney · 11-11-2005, 06:44 PM

You wouldn't want to do cardio before weight training; it'd definitely take the edge off. The few times I did it, I noticed that when I reached for that last little bit of strength I needed to fully extend for my last rep -- it wasn't there.

Cardio after weights doesn't affect cardio, as far as I've ever detected.

noahfor · 11-11-2005, 10:29 PM

Are you trying to build muscle by doing the weight lifting, or doing it for some other reason?

Dragonknight · 11-11-2005, 10:44 PM

Yeah, I definitely go with running after lifting. I have the same problem as Rodney where if I run before lifting, I don't have that extra push I'm used to. What are you going for tone, size, or just general fitness?

ChrisJericho · 11-12-2005, 02:25 AM

I also do my running after the lifting.

highthief · 11-12-2005, 05:25 AM

Yup, ditto, except on leg day when I usually forego the run.

st33lr4t · 11-12-2005, 01:13 PM

depends on what your goals are.

soccerchamp76 · 11-12-2005, 02:33 PM

My goals are general fitness and some muscle building (toning). I don't want to be bulky, but I want to be lean, strong, and defined.

Siege · 11-12-2005, 11:25 PM

I ran after lifting today. The only things I noticed were: a) i've gotten way heavier, and as a result, I feel tired earlier on. b) A growing pain in my shoulder. Yes that sounds weird, but I think it's because I used too much arm when I ran?

Nimetic · 11-13-2005, 04:30 AM

Ditto for me. I do about 10min of light cardio before weights and about 20-30min afterwards.

This has always seemed the logical way for me.

Incidentally, I need the first 10min (before) just to get my head into the mood for exercise. Walking straight up to the bar doesn't work for me... That first 10min is very light though. Walking or cycling stuff.

ratbastid · 11-13-2005, 04:50 AM

I've always done my cardio before lifting, but I don't have a good reason for that. It's just how I've always done it. Maybe I'll switch up this week and see how I like that.

amonkie · 11-13-2005, 04:57 AM

Nimetic - you do what I do - that 10 minutes is crucial for getting everything warmed up too - less chance of injury.

Siege · 11-13-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by amonkie

Nimetic - you do what I do - that 10 minutes is crucial for getting everything warmed up too - less chance of injury.

Haha, I hate warming up and I never do it. I only do it when i'm injured, or before competition.

OTK · 11-13-2005, 03:12 PM

It is best if you do cardio with no food in you stomach because you will burn fat more efficiently. It is also a good idea to eat a carb/protein meal within thirty minutes after you lift weights as this is crucial for muscle building. So, you can see that if you are going to do cardio right after you lift you will not be as effective at muscle building unless you have a quick meal, and this may inhibit your fat burning during cardio.

I have always separated cardio and lifting except when I want to get to very very low bodyfat levels - then I do cardio after lifting, as well as other times throughout the week. I recommend mixing it up; and remember intensity is what really makes the difference between an average body and a great one.

Siege · 11-13-2005, 08:46 PM

I find it hard to believe that I would burn fat more efficiently with no food in my stomach. Assuming that that is true, how will I have the energy to run as far as I usually do if I have no food?

soccerchamp76 · 11-13-2005, 09:08 PM

Because your body must use the stored energy (fat) for energy instead of food.

Siege · 11-14-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerchamp76

Because your body must use the stored energy (fat) for energy instead of food.

Have you ever tried running with no food in your stomach? I don't know about you, but I can't get half as far as I normally can. Not only do I get tired way faster, i'm just really damn hungry.

Sultana · 11-14-2005, 03:50 PM

My trainers told me that it's best to have a little carbs and fat (like, a small slice of whole-grain bread with a small bit of peanut butter) about 30 minutes before cardio. It actually gets your metabolism started, and gives you a bit of an energy boost.

When I do a show, which includes a minimum of 30 min. cardio (dance), I try to have a small turkey or chicken breast on whole grain bread (no Mayo!) sandwich about 45-min. before. Makes a huge difference in my endurance.

Siege · 11-14-2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultana

My trainers told me that it's best to have a little carbs and fat (like, a small slice of whole-grain bread with a small bit of peanut butter) about 30 minutes before cardio. It actually gets your metabolism started, and gives you a bit of an energy boost.

When I do a show, which includes a minimum of 30 min. cardio (dance), I try to have a small turkey or chicken breast on whole grain bread (no Mayo!) sandwich about 45-min. before. Makes a huge difference in my endurance.

Well said. That was my point. A previous poster said NO food in the stomach. Theoretically, you should be burning more fat because all that is left is the fat in your body. However, that also means you have no energy to go the distance.

shortynickel · 11-14-2005, 08:29 PM

i also do lifting then either running or eliptical for at least 30 mins.

i was told that if you do lifting that you should eat a good amount of protein within 40 mins of weightlifting.

Titan_Uranus · 11-14-2005, 10:47 PM

most lifters usually prefer a lighter form of cardio, to running as it's way to catabolic. It's okay if you're trying to loose weight ,but not if you're trying to bulk up because you are going to loose that hard earned muscle.

healer · 11-15-2005, 12:09 AM

Really informative thread gents. I haven't been in the gym for a coupla months now (I know, I know) but I always did my half-hour of cardio before I went to the weight rack. I just cant seem to start lifting from a cold start - I need to break a sweat first.

When I do go back - hopefully later this week - I'll try a lighter cardio set before as a warmup and the same half-hour after.

thingstodo · 11-15-2005, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Siege

Well said. That was my point. A previous poster said NO food in the stomach. Theoretically, you should be burning more fat because all that is left is the fat in your body. However, that also means you have no energy to go the distance.

YOu have to train your body to process fat more efficiently. That is through base building cardio. Here's some good info rather than hearing me preach about heart monitors, etc.:

http://www.duathlon.com/articles/1460

I also agree with the comments about refueling within 45 minutes after a workout, espacially an intense workout. A 4-1 carb to protein mix is good, along with glutamine.

And to the original question, I like my cardio after lifting.

Siege · 11-15-2005, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thingstodo

YOu have to train your body to process fat more efficiently. That is through base building cardio. Here's some good info rather than hearing me preach about heart monitors, etc.:

http://www.duathlon.com/articles/1460

I also agree with the comments about refueling within 45 minutes after a workout, espacially an intense workout. A 4-1 carb to protein mix is good, along with glutamine.

And to the original question, I like my cardio after lifting.

The article posted just tells me to keep my heart rate at or below a certain number. I didn't say that sprinting is good/bad. I know that if you want to lose weight, you have to do aerobic exercise. My point was, that you won't be able to do said aerobic exercise if you don't have the energy to get to that point of fat burning (which is usually 15 min+). And in most cases you won't have energy if you have no food in your stomach.

pomeranian · 12-08-2005, 08:16 AM

I've always known it from trainers to apply cardiovascular workouts after extensive weight training. I follow the Carmichael systems protocols that lance armstrong followed (his coach). Cardio work after weight training assist in circulating the blood throughout the body and to free up lactic acid from the muscles. The body will then be able to recover faster and absorb nutrients more efficiently.

Beefimator · 12-12-2005, 05:09 PM

I always weight train and then run. That has always helped me maintain lower body fat levels without loseing too much mass. But I won't do it for more the 15-20 minutes at a shot. I do cardio after I train, so I can dip into some of those fat stores since I already used what I have eaten within the hour as fuel.

jRuntlets · 12-12-2005, 06:09 PM

I've ALWAYS done cardio after lifting, and have it on the advice of several professional trainers to do so. Though personally if I do cardio before lifting I don't have the get up and go to really push my sets.

The reason why most trainers advise you to do cardio after lifting is that cardio really tears down the muscle and eats up alot of protien/fat/electrolytes. The general rule they've given me is 6 hours min between cardio and lifting again. You need to re-hydrate and re-fuel.

thingstodo · 12-13-2005, 04:19 AM

ou won't lose muscle mass if the cardio you do is below 80% of your heart max. That's the point where your body is using equal parts of fat and sugar for fuel. Higher intensity burns more sugar, which will run out without some sort of food or sports drink. And you can train your body to process fat more effectively, which in turn makes you more efficiant above 80%.

aceventura3 · 12-16-2005, 04:06 PM

I enjoy lifting more than running and I am better at lifting than running. So I run first.

I think lifting burns more carbs, running will then burn more fat when you get into that zone and you get into that zone faster after lifting. Most will say its more effiecient to lift first so you maximize burning fat while running, however, like I said in another post, unless you are a pro, its not going to make much difference. The key is to workout regularly.

thingstodo · 12-18-2005, 04:49 PM

Actually, lifting burns more fat - usually. It's the lower heart rate and how your body processes energy. And the amount of fat or carbs (aka, sugar) burned during cardio is directly proportional to the heart level you are training at based on your body and the specific point for you where you make the transition from processing fat to processing sugar.

aceventura3 · 12-19-2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thingstodo

Actually, lifting burns more fat - usually. It's the lower heart rate and how your body processes energy. And the amount of fat or carbs (aka, sugar) burned during cardio is directly proportional to the heart level you are training at based on your body and the specific point for you where you make the transition from processing fat to processing sugar.

I agree that a total anaerobic excircise will burn fat almost exclusively, but a workout lifting isn't totally anaerobic - at least mine aren't.

However, I was trying to more answer the question of effeciency. Assuming a one hour workout where your goal is strenght and overall cardio fitness, how do you maximize that hour? Most will say lift first, which is more anaerobic than aerobic, you wil burn calories at a lower heart rate burning sugar and fat, then when you run your body will have already burned most if not all the stores of sugar, so then when you run and get into your "zone" your body will burn mostly fat.

thingstodo · 12-19-2005, 05:46 PM

Ace...here's the point I'm not sure you're getting...

First, the only way you really know if your lifts are anaerobic is with a heart monitor - unless you jog in between sets! But on to the real point...

If you use up sugar - which happens primarily during higher intensity cardio - and keep doing high intensity cardio, you won't burn fat;your body will use muscle protein for fuel. Lower intensity excercise burns primarily fat, not sugar. You can train your body to process more fat at higher levels, but that takes months of low intensity cardio, mush more time on cardio than you would ever spend lifting.

If you want to maximize an hour routine, do supersets of lifting and use sets of 12-15 reps. Do a push and pull movement during the same workout. For example, do a set of back and then go right to a set of tris, back and forth, perhaps three-four sets of each movement before moving on to the next movement. Or do chest and biceps. Shoulders and legs.

High reps and minimal rest time will get your body cranking and get your heart rate up. You'll be wasted at the end of a 45 minute session. Spend the last 15 minutes stretching (not before with lifting). Then, just do cardio only on the next day, in between lifts.

Six days a week of that and you'll be real happy with the results after 2-3 months!

Hope that helps.

aceventura3 · 12-20-2005, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thingstodo

Ace...here's the point I'm not sure you're getting...

First, the only way you really know if your lifts are anaerobic is with a heart monitor - unless you jog in between sets! But on to the real point...

If you use up sugar - which happens primarily during higher intensity cardio - and keep doing high intensity cardio, you won't burn fat;your body will use muscle protein for fuel. Lower intensity excercise burns primarily fat, not sugar. You can train your body to process more fat at higher levels, but that takes months of low intensity cardio, mush more time on cardio than you would ever spend lifting.

If you want to maximize an hour routine, do supersets of lifting and use sets of 12-15 reps. Do a push and pull movement during the same workout. For example, do a set of back and then go right to a set of tris, back and forth, perhaps three-four sets of each movement before moving on to the next movement. Or do chest and biceps. Shoulders and legs.

High reps and minimal rest time will get your body cranking and get your heart rate up. You'll be wasted at the end of a 45 minute session. Spend the last 15 minutes stretching (not before with lifting). Then, just do cardio only on the next day, in between lifts.

Six days a week of that and you'll be real happy with the results after 2-3 months!

Hope that helps.

I do pretty well. I do use a heart rate monitor. I use the Timex Ironman Performance Monitor with GPS, and can set it for any one of 5 different target zones depending on my workout that day. I know my body pretty well.

thingstodo · 12-23-2005, 07:05 AM

Cool. By the way, some of my confusion may be with the way you use aarobic and anaerobic. The former is low intensity like lifting and walking while the latter is high intensity. Low= fat and high = sugar.

Oh, and glad to hear someone is using a monitor!!

soccerchamp76 · 12-23-2005, 11:18 PM

The treadmills/bikes that I use at my school have a heartrate monitor on the handrests so you can occasionally check your heart rate to keep it at a certain level. it is a great feature to have on a treadmill/exercise bike.

thingstodo · 12-24-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by soccerchamp76

The treadmills/bikes that I use at my school have a heartrate monitor on the handrests so you can occasionally check your heart rate to keep it at a certain level. it is a great feature to have on a treadmill/exercise bike.

You may not know this but on most machines these days you can use a heart monitor strap only. The strap is a lot less than the whole set up.

The transmitter can usually be picked up by the machine, especially popular models like Polar.

11-11-2005, 09:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	Running after lifting? I have heard some conflicting reports on the benefits/side-effects of running/cardio after lifting? What are everybody's opinion on this??? __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

11-11-2005, 10:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sultana Falling Angel Location: L.A. L.A. land	I've always done my cardio after lifting/bandwork/ball/whatever, and...no problems for me. Can you be more specific about "conflicting results", and where you got the info. from? __________________ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." - Matt Groening My goal? To fulfill my potential.

11-11-2005, 10:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dragonknight Insane Location: Hawaii	Yeah, I definitely go with running after lifting. I have the same problem as Rodney where if I run before lifting, I don't have that extra push I'm used to. What are you going for tone, size, or just general fitness? __________________ Freedom is NOT Free.

11-12-2005, 02:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
ChrisJericho eat more fruit Location: Seattle	I also do my running after the lifting. __________________ "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows us that faith proves nothing." - Friedrich Nietzsche

11-12-2005, 05:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	Yup, ditto, except on leg day when I usually forego the run. __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.

11-11-2005, 10:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I've tried to do cardiovascular first and weight trainign first. I'm not sure why or how, but doing my weight training before my cardiovascular exercise has always worked better.

11-11-2005, 05:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
samcol Junkie Location: Indiana	Cardio after lifting has always worked better for me too. Although, using the cardio time to lift more instead and taking creatine worked the best

11-11-2005, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	You wouldn't want to do cardio before weight training; it'd definitely take the edge off. The few times I did it, I noticed that when I reached for that last little bit of strength I needed to fully extend for my last rep -- it wasn't there. Cardio after weights doesn't affect cardio, as far as I've ever detected.

11-11-2005, 10:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
noahfor Addict	Are you trying to build muscle by doing the weight lifting, or doing it for some other reason?

11-12-2005, 01:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
st33lr4t Psycho Location: Dallas, Tx	depends on what your goals are.

11-12-2005, 02:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	My goals are general fitness and some muscle building (toning). I don't want to be bulky, but I want to be lean, strong, and defined. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

11-12-2005, 11:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
Siege is a tiger Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	I ran after lifting today. The only things I noticed were: a) i've gotten way heavier, and as a result, I feel tired earlier on. b) A growing pain in my shoulder. Yes that sounds weird, but I think it's because I used too much arm when I ran? __________________ "Your name's Geek? Do you know the origin of the term? A geek is someone who bites the heads off chickens at a circus. I would never let you suck my dick with a name like Geek" --Kevin Smith This part just makes my posts easier to find

11-13-2005, 04:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	Ditto for me. I do about 10min of light cardio before weights and about 20-30min afterwards. This has always seemed the logical way for me. Incidentally, I need the first 10min (before) just to get my head into the mood for exercise. Walking straight up to the bar doesn't work for me... That first 10min is very light though. Walking or cycling stuff.

11-13-2005, 04:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	I've always done my cardio before lifting, but I don't have a good reason for that. It's just how I've always done it. Maybe I'll switch up this week and see how I like that.

11-13-2005, 04:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	Nimetic - you do what I do - that 10 minutes is crucial for getting everything warmed up too - less chance of injury. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

11-13-2005, 03:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
OTK Upright Location: Ohio	It is best if you do cardio with no food in you stomach because you will burn fat more efficiently. It is also a good idea to eat a carb/protein meal within thirty minutes after you lift weights as this is crucial for muscle building. So, you can see that if you are going to do cardio right after you lift you will not be as effective at muscle building unless you have a quick meal, and this may inhibit your fat burning during cardio. I have always separated cardio and lifting except when I want to get to very very low bodyfat levels - then I do cardio after lifting, as well as other times throughout the week. I recommend mixing it up; and remember intensity is what really makes the difference between an average body and a great one.

11-13-2005, 08:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
Siege is a tiger Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	I find it hard to believe that I would burn fat more efficiently with no food in my stomach. Assuming that that is true, how will I have the energy to run as far as I usually do if I have no food? __________________ "Your name's Geek? Do you know the origin of the term? A geek is someone who bites the heads off chickens at a circus. I would never let you suck my dick with a name like Geek" --Kevin Smith This part just makes my posts easier to find

11-13-2005, 09:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	Because your body must use the stored energy (fat) for energy instead of food. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

11-14-2005, 03:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
Sultana Falling Angel Location: L.A. L.A. land	My trainers told me that it's best to have a little carbs and fat (like, a small slice of whole-grain bread with a small bit of peanut butter) about 30 minutes before cardio. It actually gets your metabolism started, and gives you a bit of an energy boost. When I do a show, which includes a minimum of 30 min. cardio (dance), I try to have a small turkey or chicken breast on whole grain bread (no Mayo!) sandwich about 45-min. before. Makes a huge difference in my endurance. __________________ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." - Matt Groening My goal? To fulfill my potential.

11-14-2005, 08:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
shortynickel Addict Location: Central PA	i also do lifting then either running or eliptical for at least 30 mins. i was told that if you do lifting that you should eat a good amount of protein within 40 mins of weightlifting. __________________ What type of... "Parents have forgotten how to be parents" Aaron Lewis "Get your ass back here, your a white boy walking thru the ghetto" - at the end of a bachalor party said to the bachalor while walking home.

11-14-2005, 10:47 PM	#24 (permalink)
Titan_Uranus Insane Location: South Africa	most lifters usually prefer a lighter form of cardio, to running as it's way to catabolic. It's okay if you're trying to loose weight ,but not if you're trying to bulk up because you are going to loose that hard earned muscle.

12-08-2005, 08:16 AM	#28 (permalink)
pomeranian Tilted Location: Philadelphia, PA	I've always known it from trainers to apply cardiovascular workouts after extensive weight training. I follow the Carmichael systems protocols that lance armstrong followed (his coach). Cardio work after weight training assist in circulating the blood throughout the body and to free up lactic acid from the muscles. The body will then be able to recover faster and absorb nutrients more efficiently.

12-12-2005, 05:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
Beefimator Tilted Location: Philly 'Burbs	I always weight train and then run. That has always helped me maintain lower body fat levels without loseing too much mass. But I won't do it for more the 15-20 minutes at a shot. I do cardio after I train, so I can dip into some of those fat stores since I already used what I have eaten within the hour as fuel.

12-12-2005, 06:09 PM	#30 (permalink)
jRuntlets Crazy	I've ALWAYS done cardio after lifting, and have it on the advice of several professional trainers to do so. Though personally if I do cardio before lifting I don't have the get up and go to really push my sets. The reason why most trainers advise you to do cardio after lifting is that cardio really tears down the muscle and eats up alot of protien/fat/electrolytes. The general rule they've given me is 6 hours min between cardio and lifting again. You need to re-hydrate and re-fuel. __________________ Horses come and go, but some leave permanent hoof prints on your life.

12-13-2005, 04:19 AM	#31 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	ou won't lose muscle mass if the cardio you do is below 80% of your heart max. That's the point where your body is using equal parts of fat and sugar for fuel. Higher intensity burns more sugar, which will run out without some sort of food or sports drink. And you can train your body to process fat more effectively, which in turn makes you more efficiant above 80%. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

12-16-2005, 04:06 PM	#32 (permalink)
aceventura3 Junkie Location: Ventura County	I enjoy lifting more than running and I am better at lifting than running. So I run first. I think lifting burns more carbs, running will then burn more fat when you get into that zone and you get into that zone faster after lifting. Most will say its more effiecient to lift first so you maximize burning fat while running, however, like I said in another post, unless you are a pro, its not going to make much difference. The key is to workout regularly.

12-18-2005, 04:49 PM	#33 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	Actually, lifting burns more fat - usually. It's the lower heart rate and how your body processes energy. And the amount of fat or carbs (aka, sugar) burned during cardio is directly proportional to the heart level you are training at based on your body and the specific point for you where you make the transition from processing fat to processing sugar. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

12-19-2005, 05:46 PM	#35 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	Ace...here's the point I'm not sure you're getting... First, the only way you really know if your lifts are anaerobic is with a heart monitor - unless you jog in between sets! But on to the real point... If you use up sugar - which happens primarily during higher intensity cardio - and keep doing high intensity cardio, you won't burn fat;your body will use muscle protein for fuel. Lower intensity excercise burns primarily fat, not sugar. You can train your body to process more fat at higher levels, but that takes months of low intensity cardio, mush more time on cardio than you would ever spend lifting. If you want to maximize an hour routine, do supersets of lifting and use sets of 12-15 reps. Do a push and pull movement during the same workout. For example, do a set of back and then go right to a set of tris, back and forth, perhaps three-four sets of each movement before moving on to the next movement. Or do chest and biceps. Shoulders and legs. High reps and minimal rest time will get your body cranking and get your heart rate up. You'll be wasted at the end of a 45 minute session. Spend the last 15 minutes stretching (not before with lifting). Then, just do cardio only on the next day, in between lifts. Six days a week of that and you'll be real happy with the results after 2-3 months! Hope that helps. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

12-23-2005, 07:05 AM	#37 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	Cool. By the way, some of my confusion may be with the way you use aarobic and anaerobic. The former is low intensity like lifting and walking while the latter is high intensity. Low= fat and high = sugar. Oh, and glad to hear someone is using a monitor!! __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

12-23-2005, 11:18 PM	#38 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	The treadmills/bikes that I use at my school have a heartrate monitor on the handrests so you can occasionally check your heart rate to keep it at a certain level. it is a great feature to have on a treadmill/exercise bike. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.