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Tully Mars 06-21-2009 10:50 AM

Yes and happy father's day back at you. Haven't heard from my kid and probably won't, she's doing sea survival school in northern California. Hope she survives.

So, I'm getting lost are we in the Med or the Adriatic?

Shell 06-21-2009 11:00 AM

...he's on the med, tully. Croatia maybe?

Tully Mars 06-21-2009 11:08 AM

Former Yugoslavia country touching the Med? I think I give up.

Shell 06-21-2009 11:32 AM

Tully...you can give up for now but don't go away
...i think you need a BIG hug to cheer you up ((((tully))))

...i'm sure he'll throw in a clue for us soon...i'm a little confused too...it's not an area i know much about (obviously, since i'm still calling it yugoslavia lol...i guess my atlas is old and i can't find a good detailed online map

Tully Mars 06-21-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shell (Post 2655498)
Poor, poor Tully...you can give up for now but don't go away
...i think you need a BIG hug to cheer you up...here you go (LOL):

(...i'm sure he'll throw in a clue for us soon...i'm a little confused too...it's not an area i know much about (obviously, since i'm still calling it yugoslavia lol...i guess my atlas is old and i can't find a good detailed online map)


I wasn't leaving, surely won't now.

Still confused, self portrait?

Thanks for the hug, I'll do my best to get my arms around you.:)

Shell 06-21-2009 01:57 PM

...hahaha...very funny


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uncle phil 06-21-2009 03:41 PM

/me weighs the idea of saying "get a room..."

where are we, in old yugoslavia?

zagreb?

BadNick 06-21-2009 06:21 PM

not zagreb.

Sorry about my being "on meds" clue, maybe I was a bit too loose with my geography. Actually the town I'm in is on the Adriatic Sea which I figure is sort of an extension of the Mediterranean ...but again, sorry, it's Adriatic.

According to several sources I checked, the Adriatic is considered a part of the Mediterranean; for better or worse, this wiki page also says that: Adriatic Sea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm in a coastal town.

uncle phil 06-22-2009 03:03 AM

dubrovnik?

Tully Mars 06-22-2009 03:46 AM

So are we in Croatia?

Shell 06-22-2009 04:08 AM

...i asked that in post #6602 but haven't received an answer yet. We'll have to cut him some slack cuz he was totally into father's day yesterday.

BadNick 06-22-2009 06:03 AM

he's alive, he's alive!!! = I mean me

OK, Shell was correct with her Croatia guess, as was Tul with his follow up check on that. And then uncle phil swoops in for the kill by finding me in Dubrovnik.

You're up unc.

I picked Dubrovnik since it seems like such a cool place, with so many cultural influences from both Eastern and Western Europe and Asia, plus I have a lovely aunt who lives there and she's invited us to come visit quite a few times so I'm planning to do that in the not too distant future. I'm glad that in spite of the ugly conflicts in that area, the cultural history was not wiped out and what was damaged has or is being rebuilt.

In 1979, the city of Dubrovnik joined the UNESCO list of World Heritage Sites.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...%20I/Dubra.jpg

Historical lore indicates that Dubrovnik was founded in the 7th century. Dubrovnik, also known as "the Pearl of the Adriatic" is a city on the Adriatic Sea coast in the extreme south of Croatia, positioned at the terminal end of the Isthmus of Dubrovnik. It is one of the most prominent tourist destinations on the Adriatic.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...%20I/91978.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../dubrovnik.jpg

The prosperity of the city of Dubrovnik has always been based on maritime trade. In the Middle Ages, as the Republic of Dubrovnik, it became the only eastern Adriatic city-state to rival Venice. Supported by its wealth and skilled diplomacy, the city achieved a remarkable level of development, particularly during the 15th and 16th centuries. Dubrovnik was one of the centres of the development of primarily the Croatian language and literature, home to many notable poets, playwrights, painters, mathematicians, physicists and other scholars.


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ubrovnik02.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...man-Bridge.jpg

Pack light if you go, you don't need clothes at many of the gorgeous beaches along the Adriatic coast of Croatia.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...dist_beach.jpg

uncle phil 06-22-2009 06:11 AM

your "nick" gave it away...

i'll think of someplace by this afternoon...

BadNick 06-22-2009 06:14 AM

unc, may I suggest the Northern Hemisphere? It's quite popular this time of year.

Tully Mars 06-22-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick (Post 2655911)
he's alive, he's alive!!! = I mean me

OK, Shell was correct with her Croatia guess, as was Tul with his follow up check on that. And then uncle phil swoops in for the kill by finding me in Dubrovnik.

You're up unc.

I picked Dubrovnik since it seems like such a cool place, with so many cultural influences from both Eastern and Western Europe and Asia, plus I have a lovely aunt who lives there and she's invited us to come visit quite a few times so I'm planning to do that in the not too distant future. I'm glad that in spite of the ugly conflicts in that area, the cultural history was not wiped out and what was damaged has or is being rebuilt.

In 1979, the city of Dubrovnik joined the UNESCO list of World Heritage Sites.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...%20I/Dubra.jpg

Historical lore indicates that Dubrovnik was founded in the 7th century. Dubrovnik, also known as "the Pearl of the Adriatic" is a city on the Adriatic Sea coast in the extreme south of Croatia, positioned at the terminal end of the Isthmus of Dubrovnik. It is one of the most prominent tourist destinations on the Adriatic.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...%20I/91978.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../dubrovnik.jpg

The prosperity of the city of Dubrovnik has always been based on maritime trade. In the Middle Ages, as the Republic of Dubrovnik, it became the only eastern Adriatic city-state to rival Venice. Supported by its wealth and skilled diplomacy, the city achieved a remarkable level of development, particularly during the 15th and 16th centuries. Dubrovnik was one of the centres of the development of primarily the Croatian language and literature, home to many notable poets, playwrights, painters, mathematicians, physicists and other scholars.


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ubrovnik02.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...man-Bridge.jpg

Pack light if you go, you don't need clothes at many of the gorgeous beaches along the Adriatic coast of Croatia.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...dist_beach.jpg

Mind if I tag along?

BadNick 06-22-2009 10:53 AM

Tul, please do. Can I impose on you for some diving guidance?

Tul, if you ever want a change of pace from Mexico, I'm sure you could get a diving guide/instruction job in Dubrovnik. Even though all women are beautiful, I know from looking at some of the women in my family that Slavic blood can also be a good thing.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...vnikdiving.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nikdiving2.jpg

uncle phil 06-22-2009 12:02 PM

(me wonders how nick does that, the "pasting" of web pages in a reply...)

ok, where am i?

Jetée 06-22-2009 12:06 PM

You are in North America.

uncle phil 06-22-2009 12:12 PM

i am in north america...

Jetée 06-22-2009 12:18 PM

You are in a capital city.

uncle phil 06-22-2009 12:21 PM

no...

BadNick 06-22-2009 12:39 PM

in the U.S.?


Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle phil (Post 2656168)
(me wonders how nick does that, the "pasting" of web pages in a reply...)...

unc,
this is how I do it:
1) view what you want to get a pic of on your screen
2) hit "print screen" button of keyboard; note that on most keyboards, this requires you to "shift" to the upper key context, so you probably have to hold down the "shift" key and then hit the "print screen" key
3) open almost any graphics program...I use MS Paint
3) under the "edit" tab at the top, drop down to "paste" and let loose
4) you should now have that screen shot in front of you
5) you can simply go to "file" and "save as" and do what you want or you can manipulate the pic, change it, etc. and then save it. Almost anything your dear heart desires is possible.
6) after I have the pic saved, usually as a "jpg", I might choose to copy it to my photobucket account, and then use the "img" code to paste it into a post here for all of you to enjoy or be annoyed with.

uncle phil 06-22-2009 12:45 PM

in your sofa...

i'll try to remember that stuff; i'll have to see if i've got ms paint or anything like that, though...

Jetée 06-22-2009 12:52 PM

Northeast

BadNick 06-22-2009 12:53 PM

east of the miss?


unc, if you're running MS Windows, you can download Paint for free. I know my son with the MacBook has an Apple default program that is similar and can do the same or more. I'm not sure about Linux or other OS's but usually by the time Microsoft has it, everybody else already had it.

Tully Mars 06-22-2009 05:20 PM

Sorry I'm late, been checking pics of Slavic ladies all day. Wonder if their language would be any easier then Spanish?

So north of 40?

BadNick 06-22-2009 07:45 PM

unc, are you going coastal on us?

Tul, from what I gather, English is taught to almost all students in much of Europe so if you make an effort, I think the Slavic ladies will engage you and help communicate. I was surprised when my cousins who were never in England or the U.S. or other English-speaking country came to visit and they spoke pretty decent English. Same with my Hungarian cousins and my Czech cousins. They told me that when I come visit them, just bring one suitcase full of GAP jeans and that will pay for the whole vacation since they're worth that much over there.

Shell 06-22-2009 07:47 PM

...landlocked?

BadNick 06-22-2009 07:56 PM

hi Shell. Of course you're invited, too.


a state that has the word "new" in it?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 02:54 AM

jet - no

nick - no

tully - yes

nick - no

shell - yes

nick - no

Tully Mars 06-23-2009 03:04 AM

Just to be clear, the state you're in is landlocked?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 03:05 AM

yup...

Tully Mars 06-23-2009 03:15 AM

West of 105?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 03:32 AM

nope...

Shell 06-23-2009 03:44 AM

:hearts::hearts::hearts:
...heartland?
:hearts::hearts::hearts:

uncle phil 06-23-2009 04:08 AM

shell - not sure

Tully Mars 06-23-2009 04:46 AM

One of the Dakotas?

BadNick 06-23-2009 06:52 AM

Nebraska?

Shell 06-23-2009 10:30 AM

...sorry phil...that was a broad question...
Heartland of America is very general to mean
all those states centrally located.

Basically

North and South Dakota,
Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, Michigan, Minnesota,
Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin
(maybe kentucky and ohio)

...so, assuming your answer would have been yes to those, my question now is...does it start with an "I"?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 11:07 AM

tully - no

nick - no

shel - no, no

BadNick 06-23-2009 11:46 AM

are you in Missouri?

Jetée 06-23-2009 11:47 AM

Central time?

Shell 06-23-2009 12:10 PM

...i think phil just said "no" to the heartland states, and "no" to states that start with an "I"

uncle phil 06-23-2009 01:05 PM

nick - no

jet - no

shell - yes

Jetée 06-23-2009 01:09 PM

Pacific time?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 01:11 PM

nope...

only leaves one, and not the eastern one...

Jetée 06-23-2009 01:21 PM

state bordering or within Arizona?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 01:50 PM

yup...

Jetée 06-23-2009 01:54 PM

alright now.

state beginning with an "N"?

uncle phil 06-23-2009 01:55 PM

nope...

BadNick 06-23-2009 06:37 PM

are u in utah?

Shell 06-23-2009 07:46 PM

...soooo, Arizona?

uncle phil 06-24-2009 02:29 AM

nick - no

shell - no

and that leaves...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 02:30 AM

Colorado?

uncle phil 06-24-2009 02:31 AM

colorado...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 02:36 AM

Looking for a city here?

uncle phil 06-24-2009 02:37 AM

i am...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 02:41 AM

Town of more then 1 million residents?


edit:

Well that was a dumb question I can't find any Colorado cities of more then 1 mil. Denvers seems to have .5 mil.

But I'll wait for you to tell me no.

uncle phil 06-24-2009 03:02 AM

no...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 03:06 AM

More then 100K?

uncle phil 06-24-2009 03:31 AM

less...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 03:46 AM

50K?

BadNick 06-24-2009 07:25 AM

are you in Trinidad, Colorado the "Sex Change Capital of the World"?

Houston - Hair Balls - A Small Colorado Town Becomes "Capital of Transsexuals" And Houston Hears About It
Trinidad, Colorado - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

uncle phil 06-24-2009 12:45 PM

tully - more

nick - no

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 01:04 PM

West of 25?

uncle phil 06-24-2009 01:10 PM

no...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 01:35 PM

Greeley?

uncle phil 06-24-2009 01:47 PM

i would be in greeley...

Greeley, Colorado - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you go, sailor...

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 01:54 PM

Ok, Where am I.

uncle phil 06-24-2009 03:32 PM

in an octopus's garden?

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 03:40 PM

Nope, not under the sea.

uncle phil 06-24-2009 03:48 PM

NH?

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 04:00 PM

SWH

uncle phil 06-24-2009 04:17 PM

SA?

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 04:30 PM

No.

BadNick 06-24-2009 06:21 PM

a South Pacific Island?

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick (Post 2657677)
a South Pacific Island?

No, you were on the right track before you edited.

BadNick 06-24-2009 06:36 PM

ahh, you're too fast for me, Tul.

OK, are you in Antarctica?

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 06:44 PM

No but you're close.

BadNick 06-24-2009 06:53 PM

are you on one of the Falkland Islands?

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 06:55 PM

No. Be ernest follow your trek and you'll find me.

BadNick 06-24-2009 07:16 PM

might you be on Gough Island aka Diego Alvarez

Tully Mars 06-24-2009 07:26 PM

No, think you missed the clue of being ernest.

BadNick 06-24-2009 07:38 PM

I saw that clue but haven't figured it out yet. I'm figuring.

---------- Post added at 11:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 PM ----------

ok, I figured you might be where Ernest Shackleton is buried, on South Georgia Island.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rgiaisland.jpg

Xplore Expeditions : : galerie of photos of antarctica, tierra del fuego, cap horn, chile south georgia, falklands

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...giaisland2.jpg

uncle phil 06-25-2009 02:27 AM

isla navarino?

Tully Mars 06-25-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick (Post 2657713)
I saw that clue but haven't figured it out yet. I'm figuring.

---------- Post added at 11:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 PM ----------

ok, I figured you might be where Ernest Shackleton is buried, on South Georgia Island.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rgiaisland.jpg

Xplore Expeditions : : galerie of photos of antarctica, tierra del fuego, cap horn, chile south georgia, falklands

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...giaisland2.jpg


Right island, right guy, checking to see if his grave is in the town I'm in.

Edit: Nope looking for a different town or station. Absolutely connected to Shackleton.

---------- Post added at 06:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:57 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle phil (Post 2657817)
isla navarino?


See above.

uncle phil 06-25-2009 03:54 AM

grytviken?

Tully Mars 06-25-2009 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle phil (Post 2657839)
grytviken?

No that's where Shackleton's grave is, which was Nick's guess. I'm not at his grave site nor in that town.

Shackleton was alive when he was here, though probably just barely.

uncle phil 06-25-2009 04:25 AM

elephant island?

Tully Mars 06-25-2009 04:35 AM

No I'm on South Georgia Island, just not the location you guys keep coming up with.

I'm in a location Shackleton just walked into one day. Much to the surprise of the station manager.

uncle phil 06-25-2009 08:10 AM

stromness?

BadNick 06-25-2009 08:35 AM

damn, I was expecting to check in today and see that I won with my guess of his burial site. Anyway, I like that your location is less obvious than that, Tul.

So reading quite a bit about Shackleton, I think unc is most likely correct since E.S. apparently walked into the whaling station there and surprised everybody.

Tully Mars 06-25-2009 09:08 AM

Yes Sir Phil, you found me. Made you do some reading. Really wasn't my intent. I thought Shackleton was buried in England.

I assume you guys read the Wiki page on Shackleton. I did a paper on him in school years back (ya think I'd know where he was buried, D'oH!) The whole open boat through a hurricane force storm and the trek over South Georgia Island blows me away. He's the original "Yeah, well in my day..." Too bad he didn't live long enough to use that line on his grandchildren.


Quote:

Elephant Island was an inhospitable place, far from any shipping routes. Consequently, Shackleton decided to risk an open-boat journey to the distant South Georgia whaling stations, where he knew help was available. The strongest of the lifeboats, christened James Caird after the expedition's chief sponsor, was chosen for the trip. Ship's carpenter Harry McNish made various improvements, including raising the sides, strengthening the keel, building a makeshift deck of wood and canvas, and sealing the work with oil paint and seal blood. Shackleton chose five companions for the journey: Frank Worsley, Endurance's captain, who would be responsible for navigation; Tom Crean, who had "begged to go"; two strong sailors in John Vincent and Timothy McCarthy, and finally the carpenter McNish. Shackleton had clashed with McNish during the time when the party was stranded on the ice but, while he would not forgive the carpenter's earlier insubordination, Shackleton recognised his value for this particular job.

Shackleton refused to pack supplies for more than four weeks, knowing that if they did not reach South Georgia within that time, the boat and its crew would be lost. The James Caird was launched on 24 April 1916; during the next fifteen days it sailed through the waters of the southern ocean, at the mercy of the stormy seas, in constant peril of capsizing. On 8 May, due to Worsley's navigational skills, the cliffs of South Georgia came into sight, but hurricane-force winds prevented the possibility of landing. The party were forced to ride out the storm offshore, in constant danger of being dashed against the rocks. They would later learn that the same hurricane had sunk a 500-ton steamer bound for South Georgia from Buenos Aires. On the following day they were able, finally, to land on the unoccupied southern shore. After a period of rest and recuperation, rather than risk putting to sea again to reach the whaling stations on the northern coast, Shackleton decided to attempt a land crossing of the island. Although it is likely that Norwegian whalers had previously crossed at other points on ski, no one had attempted this particular route before. Leaving McNish, Vincent and McCarthy at the landing point on South Georgia, Shackleton travelled with Worsley and Crean over mountainous terrain for 36 hours to reach the whaling station at Stromness.

The next successful crossing of South Georgia was in October 1955, by the British explorer Duncan Carse, who travelled much of the same route as Shackleton's party. In tribute to their achievement he wrote: "I do not know how they did it, except that they had to—three men of the heroic age of Antarctic exploration with 50 feet of rope between them—and a carpenter's adze".

Rescue-

"All Safe, All Well", allegedly depicting Shackleton's return to Elephant Island, August 1916. However, a photograph of the departure of the James Caird in April was doctored by photographer Frank Hurley to create this image.

Shackleton immediately sent a boat to pick up the three men from the other side of South Georgia while he set to work to organise the rescue of the Elephant Island men. His first three attempts were foiled by sea ice, which blocked the approaches to the island. He appealed to the Chilean government, which offered the use of Yelcho, a small seagoing tug from its navy. Yelcho reached Elephant Island on 30 August, and Shackleton quickly evacuated all 22 men.
Yer up Phil.

BadNick 06-25-2009 10:04 AM

While reading stuff about Shackleton, I found this interesting map and time line of his "Endurance Voyage" where he ended up in Stomness whaling station

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rance_map2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ance_dates.jpg

I also find it hard to believe that they managed to get photos of a lot of this stuff

As time wore on it became more and more evident that the ship was doomed. Endurance among ice pinnacles, February 1915
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ndurance10.jpg

The long, long night the Endurance in the Antarctic winter darkness, trapped in the Weddell Sea, 27th August 1915
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ance_night.jpg

Endurance crushed to death by the icepacks of the Weddell Sea, the sinking ship, watched by the dogs, 1st November 1915.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...endurance2.jpg

Frank Wild (probably) by the wreckage of the Endurance before she slipped beneath the ice.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...rance_wild.jpg

That the men kept going during this time was a tribute to Shackleton's leadership skills and his abilities and understanding of the importance of keeping up morale. The whole group were kept together in the monotonous and strenuous task of pulling laden lifeboats across broken up and ridged ice floes. It was now 14 months since the Endurance had become frozen into the ice and nearly 5 months since she had sank marooning them in a featureless icy wilderness. On April 12th Shackleton found that instead of making good progress westwards, they had actually traveled 30 miles to the east as a result of the drifting ice. They did however spot Elephant Island, part of the South Shetlands group and headed that way in seas that were by now largely open for navigation. They made landfall on Elephant Island being ecstatic to do so. It had been 497 days since they had last set foot on land.

Shackleton realised that in order to effect a rescue, he was going to have to travel to the nearest inhabited place which was the whaling station back on South Georgia, some 800 miles distant and across the most stormy stretch of ocean in the world. They expected to encounter waves that were 50 feet from tip to trough "Cape Horn Rollers" in a 22 foot long boat. Their navigation was by a sextant and a chronometer of unknown accuracy, they were dependent on sightings of the sun that could sometimes not be seen for weeks in the overcast weather so characteristic of these latitudes.

uncle phil 06-25-2009 11:39 AM

ok, where am i?

BadNick 06-25-2009 12:29 PM

US?

uncle phil 06-25-2009 12:35 PM

US...

BadNick 06-25-2009 12:39 PM

:)

east o' miss?

uncle phil 06-25-2009 01:04 PM

west o' miss...

Tully Mars 06-25-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick (Post 2658093)
I also find it hard to believe that they managed to get photos of a lot of this stuff

There's even film footage too. I own this one but it's up north in storage-

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA240_.jpg

Sometimes when I'm sailing (or even diving) when something goes wrong or the seas pick up I think about what Shackleton managed and think "Oh yeah, he'd really think this is a pickle. Probably laugh his ass off at me."

Of course now days most people won't walk to the store two blocks away. My house up north is a few miles away from where Lewis and Clark spent the winter in 1805-1806. They spent the winter there after walking pretty much 3/4 of the way across the continent. That spring they turned around and walked back.

So Phil, ya tough old bastard, are you north of 40?


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