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Old 03-10-2004, 08:44 PM   #801 (permalink)
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In one of the reports, they say Brock is dating Sable???

Is this true?
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Old 03-10-2004, 09:10 PM   #802 (permalink)
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I'm not sure, I was under the impression that he was married.

I just figured it out...

Brock leaves to try out for the NFL, gets a starting job somewhere, let's say The Dolphins.
During the opening game, say against the Giants, Lesnar turns around and F-5's the QB, rips off his Miami Jersey to reveal a Giants one, then gets on the mic and announces that the Giants have joined the newly reborn XFL, which is the rumoured third brand extension!

Okay, maybe not, but that would be awesome.
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Old 03-10-2004, 09:43 PM   #803 (permalink)
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Most of the reports have just listed Brock's woman as "the mother of his child," so I'm guessing no wedding bells happened there.

I found it a shock that he was dating Sable too. Even more shocking that he has a kid!

I don't think this story would be a work, since there doesn't seem to be any positives that can happen from this. I mean, what would the point be? Plus, many of the WWE fans don't go around reading news on the smark sights, so it wouldn't make sense to start the rumor here.

If it really is a work, then I'd like to see him as part of the (rumored) ECW revival. Yes, I heard that ECW would be brought in (again) as the renegade group (again), and have their own show once a week, and hold their own PPV's. I'm not exactly sure how successful it would be, since it was botched so badly the first time around.
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Old 03-10-2004, 11:15 PM   #804 (permalink)
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Anyone hear that part of Lesnar reason for leaving was the way the Undertaker was going to be pushed on his return? I remember reading something a while back talking about the WWE allowing Taker to basicly walk right through all the heels on Smackdown when he returns, after he smacks Kane around at WMXX of course...

And another thing, I wonder if Edge is gonna wind up going to Smackdown to fill in the missing star power if Lesner walks...

Edit: I just saw a funny idea on another site, how about the WWE makes the Lesnar/Goldberg match a last man standing match with the loser leaving the WWE. The ending is Austin stuns them both and counts them both out. O_o
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Old 03-11-2004, 01:06 AM   #805 (permalink)
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I just saw a funny idea on another site, how about the WWE makes the Lesnar/Goldberg match a last man standing match with the loser leaving the WWE. The ending is Austin stuns them both and counts them both out. O_o
Well, Austin has done it before, and by-gawd if he's not up to doing it again.

I'm kind of afraid about what's going to happen now with Undie. I mean, I loved him as a kid, and I guess the old character is definetly a nice step away from his *cough* "shoot-fighting" skills, but I don't want to see him blaze through all the talent and get another title shot.


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Old 03-11-2004, 05:52 AM   #806 (permalink)
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If Vince did bring back the ECW, then I wouldn't be suprised if the Brock/NFL thing is a ruse, and he's going to headline the restarted ECW. I can't see Brock playing pro football, quite frankly. He's a wrestler, not a ball player. It'd be like Angle going into the NFL.
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Old 03-11-2004, 02:42 PM   #807 (permalink)
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I guess the old character is definetly a nice step away from his *cough* "shoot-fighting" skills,
LoL oh my god, it was probably around a year ago when Undertaker was either trying to do a triangle choke or an armbar, I can't remember which, but his technique was so poor I busted out laughing.
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Old 03-11-2004, 05:04 PM   #808 (permalink)
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I can't see Brock playing pro football, quite frankly. He's a wrestler, not a ball player. It'd be like Angle going into the NFL.
If I remember correctly, Kurt Angle's book mentioned that he tried out for the Steelers one year. He claimed that if they would have had cleats that fit him better, he would have made it in.
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Old 03-11-2004, 06:07 PM   #809 (permalink)
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If I remember correctly, Kurt Angle's book mentioned that he tried out for the Steelers one year. He claimed that if they would have had cleats that fit him better, he would have made it in.

I stand corrected...of course, I didn't read the book.
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Old 03-12-2004, 04:25 AM   #810 (permalink)
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Top 10 WM Matches....eveah!

So, last night on Spike TV, they had a "Top 10 Wrestlemania matches" show. Here's their pics, if you missed it:

10.) Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit - WM17
9.) Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan - WMVI
8.) Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels - WMXIV
7.) Hulk Hogan & Mr. T vs. Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorf - WMI
6.) Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - WMXIII
5.) The Rock vs. Hollywood Hogan - WM18
4.) Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat - WMIII
3.) Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels (ladder match) - WMX
2.) Dudleys vs. Hardys vs. Edge & Christian (triple ladder match) - WM16
1.) Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (iron man match) - WMXII
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Old 03-12-2004, 05:54 AM   #811 (permalink)
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hehe thank good neess the era of the big man looks to be on a downturn

Brock will be gone in a few weeks, hopefully Goldberg too..

Mean Mark Calloway is on his last year,

Big Show's contract up in 20XX (i forget the date)..

The Aussie left, Kane will be depushed,

Matt Morgan is underperforming,

Hardcore Holly is upsetting JR..(ok, so he's not a Big Guy, i just dont like him..the man has legit anger issues)

Wee! Cruiserweight Time!
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:39 PM   #812 (permalink)
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Holy Crap!! Ganguro posted!!~

ANYWAY, Guess what time it is?!?!?! ITS MY PREDICTIONS FOR WRESTLEMANIA (the crowd goes crazy) (all the fine ladies throw their underwear) (all the fine ladies forgot to take off their underwear, so they stand up from where they landed and try again)

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WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle
The truth - I am more of an Angle fan than Eddie
The truth - Angle has gone from heel to face so many times, that people don't know whether to cheer or boo him.
The truth - Angle is your next WWE World Heavyweight (SD!) Champion!!!

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Triple Threat Match
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit
Benoit pins Michaels for the Title. Loses it to HHH on RAW the next day.

SPECIAL GUEST REFEREE: 'STONE COLD' STEVE AUSTIN
Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg
Lesnar and Goldberg DQ themselves by beating up Austin. The crowd boos. We cheer. We say BYE BYE to the lot of them.

HANDICAP TAG TEAM MATCH
The Rock & Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton, Batista & Ric Flair
Evolution wins.

The Undertaker vs. Kane
Undertaker wins, Kane gets his mask back.

WWE UNITED STATES HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
The Big Show vs. John Cena
Cena FINALLY wins a solo match at a major PPV and is your new US Champ.

WWE WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP (SMACKDOWN)
Four-Way Match
Rikishi & Scotty Too Hotty (c) vs. The Basham Brothers vs. The APA vs. Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin
The Worlds Greatest Tagteam proves, once again, that Shelton Benjamin is pre awesomness. TWGTT wins the titles.

WWE WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP (RAW)
Four-Way Match
Rob Van Dam & Booker T (c) vs. Mark Jindrak & Garrison Cade vs. La Resistance vs. The Dudley Boyz
... I think this match will be worse than the one Big Shmo is in. RVD and Booker T retain. (Why the hell is Jindrak and Cade at Wrestlemania, and V1 Hardy isn't?!?!?!?!)

Chris Jericho vs. Christian
Jericho wins, BIIIAATTCCHHH

WWE WORLD CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Cruiserweight Open Match
Chavo Guerrero (c) vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Tajiri vs. Akio vs. Billy Kidman vs. Ultimo Dragon vs. Sho Funaki vs. Nunzio vs. Jamie Noble vs. Shannon Moore
This will be a HUGE spotfest, with all the performers pulling off their biggest and best moves. While I hope that Jamie-san (Jung Dragons anyone??) would win the title, I feel that Chavo will retain the belt.


WWE WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP
Victoria (c) vs. Molly Holly
I wouldn't mind seeing a bald Molly. In fact, I hope to see it so much that I am going way out on a limb to say that Victoria wins!

PLAYBOY EVENING GOWN MATCH
Stacy Keibler & Miss Jackie vs. Torrie Wilson & Sable
... Okay. THIS is the worst match of the night. I'm not even going to call this one, because it is a waste of my precious few braincells.

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Old 03-12-2004, 08:37 PM   #813 (permalink)
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You command.... I obey....

Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero
I think Eddy'll take it, but it won't be a clean win. Eddy needs to hold the belt longer to establish himself as a main-eventer, this feud never got enough time to fully develop. It should carry on for awhile longer.

HHH vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit
Michaels pins Benoit, Setting up Michaels vs. Benoit at Backlash (In Benoit's hometown, Edmonton). This whole triple threat business was set up so that HHH wouldn't have to lose the belt to and look weak in the process. Although it wouldn't surprise me if HHH held the belt until him and Steph have a son.

Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar
I'm hoping they don't go for a bizarro non-finish for this match. I pick Lesnar. On the following Smackdown, Lesnar makes a speech saying that the rest of the roster wasn't behind him, yet he still won, that he's better than the WWE, and that he's through. (Provided that this NFL thing is real).

Rock n' Sock Connection vs. Evolution
I'm guessing Evolution. The Orton/Foley feud will carry on to Backlash where Orton'll get a clean win (unless he's not IC champ then). I'm not expecting much out of this match, Flair's hurt, The Rock'll be gone again right after the match, and Batista sucks.

Big Show vs. John Cena
Cena should win this. I don't think Show has defended his title since winning it in October(?). I remember Cena/Show in a non-title match from Iraq at Christmas, Cena won, and since then I've been waiting for the much more entertaining Cena to win the belt.

Undertaker vs. Kane
I forgot about this one, the unmasked monster Kane could barely handle Shane McMahon, and it seems rather pointless to bring Taker back with such fanfare, only to have him lose. Both sides'll get a chance to show off their crazy, evil powers, but Taker will tombstone Kane 'Straight to Hell'.

SmackDown Tag Team Clusterfuck
Benjamin & Haas is who I think should win, but I can see the APA taking it.

Raw Tag Team Clusterfuck (a.k.a. 'Why I don't care about the tag team division')
Have The Dudleyz turn heel and win the belts, that might interest me.

Cruiserweight Open
Chavo Sr. lies, cheats, and steals a win for Chavo Jr. over Rey, or possibly Ultimo Dragon, who could then get some much-needed TV time.

Chris Jericho vs. Christian
I'd like to see a Trish heel turn, winning the match for Christian.

Victoria vs. Molly Holly
I really hope it's a pubic hair match...
Victoria wins, we won't see Molly again until some of her hair grows back, and in the meantime we see heel Trish vs. face Victoria.

Skank Match
Who cares?

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Old 03-13-2004, 12:21 AM   #814 (permalink)
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Damn straight. Now go make me a sandwhich.

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So I was flipping channels, and what do I come across? IWA (i think) (International Wrestling Alliance - Puerto Rico federation) or something like that. Puerto Rico for sure, and it definitely started with an I.

ANYWAY, saw a very nice match with Chris Sabin, some Diablo guy, and some PR guy named Blitz. It was a three-way TNA style X match, with the I** Lightweight World Title (literally) on the line. It was called by the english dubbed announcers as a "tightrope" match, where each ringpost had another structure behind it that rose about 10-12 feet above the mat. From the structure, an X was formed by 2 ropes.

The idea is to monkey the ropes to get the the title that is hanging at the cross in the ropes.

There were some nice spots, that revolved mainly around the various ways you can get someone to fall/drop/release from the ropes and land in a heap on the mat.

Funniest part of the match, purely unintentional though, was the Diablo guy going for a Rey Mysterio-esque West Coast Pop into a dropkick in an attempt to knock Blitz off the rope.

Attempt.

Diablo didn't get enough height or distance, and barely landed a quarter way across the ring. Luckily Chris Sabin was doing his thing (something Y2Jericho would do) and immediately sprung up from where he was selling an injury from a previous spot to tackle Blitz off the ropes. The match was saved, and continued on for a few more minutes.

Eventually Diablo and Sabin were kicking each other near the title whilst hanging from the ropes. Blitz was getting close, Diablo and Sabin both kick each other off, and Blitz snags the title.

All in all, a very good match, and Chris Sabin (who I finally get to see fight and know who he is) really did live up to a lot of the things I have heard of him.
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Old 03-13-2004, 01:06 AM   #815 (permalink)
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Angle vs Eddie
My pick: Eddie.

HHH vs Michaels vs Benoit
My pick: HHH

Goldberg vs Lesnar
My Pick: double dq

Rock n Sock vs Evolution
My pick: Evolution

Undertaker vs Kane
My pick: Undertaker

Big Show vs Cena
My pick: cena

Cruiserweight open
My pick: Mysterio

Jericho vs Christian
My pick: Jericho

Molly vs Victoria
My pick Victoria

And pretty much like everyone else I really don't care about what happens in the tag team matches.
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:03 AM   #816 (permalink)
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~DownwardSpiral's WrestleMania XX predictions~

WWE Championship Match : Eddie Guerrero (c) v. Kurt Angle

Winner : Eddie with Frog Splash or deceiving referee into thinking Angle cheated.

Triple Threat Match - World Heavyweight Championship : Chris Benoit v. Shawn Michaels v. Triple H (c)

Winner : Benoit by submission over HBK

Goldberg v. Brock Lesnar with Steve Austin as special referee

Winner : Austin, even though he's the ref, since both Goldberg and Lesnar are supposed to leave after WMXX, Austin, I think, will give both the Stone Cold Stunner, drink some beer, and walk out 'saluting' the crowd.

Rock n' Sock Connection v. Evolution

Winners : Rock n' Sock with either People's Elbow on Batista or Mandible Claw on Orton.

WWE U.S. Championship Match : John Cena v. Big Show (c)

Winner : John Cena with the F-U, new U.S. Champ after this long and boring run of the Big Show.

WWE Tag Team Championship Match - Fatal 4 Way : World's Greatest Tag Team v. APA v. Scotty 2 Hotty & Rikishi (c) v. Basham Bros.

Winners : I'm going with the APA on this one, although I would rather see the WGTT win, they're the best team out of the four in the match.

World Tag Team Match - Fatal 4 Way : Booker T & RVD (c) v. La Resistance v. Mark Jindrak & Garrison Cade v. Dudley Boyz

Winners : I think Booker T & RVD will retain the titles.

Cruiserweight Open - Chavo Guerrero defends against all

Winner : Rey Mysterio, again, 619 and West Coast Pop on Chavo.

The Undertaker v. Kane

Winner : Undertaker with a Tombstone, keeping his WrestleMania undefeated streak alive.

Chris Jericho v. Christian

Winner : Christian after Trish provides an unintentional distraction of Jericho.

WWE Women's Championship : Molly Holly v. Victoria (c)

Winner : Molly, she keeps the hair, Victoria wins the title back in the near future.

Playboy Evening Gown Match - Sable & Torrie Wilson v. Miss Jackie and Stacy Keibler

Winners : This match is a complete and utter waste of time, but if I must pick a winner of this waste of a match, I say Torrie and Sable with a Sablebomb on Jackie.

And there you have it, my predictions for WrestleMania XX, see you after the show Sunday.


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Old 03-13-2004, 11:08 AM   #817 (permalink)
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Angle vs Eddie
My pick: Angle

HHH vs Michaels vs Benoit
My pick: Michaels

Goldberg vs Lesnar
My Pick: Lesnar (if it's not a double-DQ)

Rock n Sock vs Evolution
My pick: Evolution

Undertaker vs Kane
My pick: Undertaker

Big Show vs Cena
My pick: Cena

Cruiserweight open
My pick: Mysterio

Jericho vs Christian
My pick: Jericho

Molly vs Victoria
My pick Victoria
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Old 03-13-2004, 02:23 PM   #818 (permalink)
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My picks

Angle vs Eddie
Angle with interferrence from Chavo for some reason they (the WWE and old WCW) just love Chavo vs. Eddie

HHH vs. HBK vs. Benoit
HBK, HHH will be getting ready to pin HBK Benoit will go to stop it pulling HHH off he'll try to put the cross face on some how HHH will get them both standing but then fall as HBK superkicks "HHH" but hits benoit gets the cover and wins. Monday on Raw HBK loses title to Benoit. (Just don't think HHH wants to drop the belt clean so he can come back after a rest and claim, "he never lost the belt.")

BIG TIME PROVISION TO MY PREDICTION........ IF BRET HART APPEARS (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL BUT IF HE DOES AND AS PROVEN MANY TIMES ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWE) I COULD SEE HIM TAKING DOWN HBK WHILE BENOIT FINISHES OFF HHH

Goldberg vs. Lesnar
Does it matter they are both gone...... Look for Paul Dangerously to do something to Lesnar and Austin to totally kick Goldberg's ass then claim himself the winner.

Rock & Sock vs. Evo
look for this to be a very disappointing short match with Orton getting creamed by Foley BUT as it looks like EVO is going to win look for Orton to turn on EVO and saving the win for Foley and Rock. (Orton's going to be a HUGE face after this.)

Taker vs. Kane
Taker crushes Kane BUT another wrestler from Taker's past plays his music and flashes pics on the screen........ Who could it be...... Hogan, Warrior......... or someone else.

Big Show vs. Cena
Big Show will drop very short match not much action

Cruiserweight
Chavo looks to win it but Uncle Eddie get's his revenge leaving Ultimo, Chavo Sr. and Rey in..... Ultimo and Rey beat each other senseless and Chavo Sr. comes out of a corner and wins.

Jericho vs. Christian
Most obvious and predictable match of the night (and with the lameness of these matches that says something)

Jericho's winning, Trish comes out walks over to Jericho and as it looks like she's going to kiss him, she kicks him in the nuts and starts beating him till Christian comes and finishes it...... Christian and Trish then leave kissing and laughing

Molly vs. Victoria
Victoria Molly saves her hair though

Playboy/ evening gown match
WHO CARES HAVE A FEELING BOOBIES WILL BE SHOWN AS MCMAHON TRIES TO ONE UP THE SUPER BOWL.
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Angle vs Eddie
Eddie retains, with a psycho Angle beatdown afterwards
Winner: Eddie

HHH vs Michaels vs Benoit
I want Benoit to win, but my mind has been conditioned to believe otherwise. HHH retains.
Winner: HHH

Goldberg vs Lesnar
Tough call, but I say Lesnar Jackhammers Goldberg for the sure-win, but Austin opens the biggest can o whoopass on both guys.
Winner: The Audience

Rock n Sock vs Evolution
I'm not sure how long Mick's going to be in the WWE, so I'll say that Orton pins Rock, pushing him to main event status.
Winner: Evolution

Undertaker vs Kane
Sure-thing would have to be Undertaker, but I'd like to see a swerve of somekind. Maybe have Pete Rose jump out of a coffin with Kane's old mask, but gives Undertaker the Tombstone piledriver. ::shrugs::
Winner: Kane

Raw tag team whatever whatever
Eh, Dudleyz win.
Winner: Who cares.

Smackdown tag titles:
Best Damn Tag Team Period, baby!! Hass locks in the Hass of Pain on Scotty for the win.
Winner(s): World's Greatest Tag Team

Big Show vs Cena
Big Show's got the respect around the locker room, but Cena needs the big W to really catapult him back into the main event. Cena catches Show with the FU off the top rope, collapsing the ring. Ref still counts it.
Winner: Cena

Cruiserweight open
My man Ultimo has finally made it to Wrestlemania AND Madison Square Garden! Whooo!! He'll probably be eliminated in the first couple of minutes. Rey gives a hard effort, but Chavo Sr. would never let him win.
Winner: Chavo (Pepe!!)

Jericho vs Christian
Christian has become pretty entertaining these past few weeks, but Jericho's the king of bling bling. Smart booking would say that Jericho wins, and swaps spit with Trish at the end. So I also say Trish turns heel and costs Jericho the win.
Winner: Christian

Molly vs Victoria
I think Victoria might like pretty hot bald. Hate to see her losing the title, but it would definetly give her a more psychotic look.
Winner: Molly

Edit:
Playboy Evening Gown Match:
I almost forgot about the match. What's even sadder is that I actually went back and added it back in. =( We get a really soft soft softcore romp around the ring, everyone gets stripped, King's head explodes, yadda yadda. Remember the lingerie match between Torrie and Stacy? That was my MOTY candidate, hands, um, down. What was I talking about?
Winner: Torrie and Sable.

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Big Show vs Cena
... Cena catches Show with the FU off the top rope, collapsing the ring...
How in the heck is Cena going to drag BigShmo's carcass up to the rope, let alone the bottom one for an FU?

Thats like asking Gail Kim to bench press Rikishi.

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Hopefully this shows up... anyway, I've put everyone's predictions in a table for easy (maybe) viewing. I'll do another one when the winners are determined. If someone gets to it before me, I'm all for it. If someone posts the winners, I'll just insert the table into your post directly.

Thoughts = Everyone thinks Cena will win the US Title! WOO!!

No one thinks Goldberg will win, but there are people on both sides on the Double DQ and Lesnar endings.

Of the six people (at the moment) who predicted, we are split into even thirds on the HHH/HBK/Benoit match. 2 for HHH, 2 for HBK, 2 for Benoit. (One for HBK is a dual ending, depending solely on the appearance of Bret Hart. NOT TEDDY HART)

Edit: six = seven. Screw me.

We like Mexicans. Only Chavo and Mysterio were predicted to win, the only 2 of our Southern Brothers (by family history/geneology) in the Cruiserweight Open.

Some people left out the Tag Team Matches. You will be drugged and pushed into the path of a large angry bull.

Of the two people who took the few extra seconds to actually predict the Evening Gown match... We find that no one likes the Raw girls.

(Don't ask why this is an ugly jpg file. live with it)


I realize I switched the RAW and SD! tag match for my own predictions. I might change it later on if I feel so behooved.

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Old 03-14-2004, 11:04 AM   #821 (permalink)
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Lemme add the three matches I didn't.

Booker T/RVD should win their match.
Same for The World's Greatest Tag Team.
Torrie and Sable, without a doubt (Vince will try to prove that Playboy appearances will move you up the WWE ladder).
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Old 03-14-2004, 03:01 PM   #822 (permalink)
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Just want to point something out last minute sorta detail.... I said Orton saves rock and sock and they win not Evo

I just see Orton becoming a face.

with the Bret Hart prediction can you imagine the pop and the HUGE press that would bring. Watching Hart come out of nowhere and kick HBK's ass allowing Benoit to win. That would be probably McMahon's greatest achievement right there, and the biggest surprise to hit wrestling since well...... since ever.

That's why it won't happen. Everyone would be upstaged by Bret Hart...... BUT that's why Hart would do it..... I'm just a confused puppy on this one.
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Anyone see Angle beating Geurerro, Brock beating Goldberg, then Angle and Brock going at it again? I REALLY hope I'm wrong.

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So, last night on Spike TV, they had a "Top 10 Wrestlemania matches" show. Here's their pics, if you missed it:

10.) Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit - WM17
9.) Ultimate Warrior vs. Hulk Hogan - WMVI
8.) Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels - WMXIV
7.) Hulk Hogan & Mr. T vs. Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorf - WMI
6.) Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - WMXIII
5.) The Rock vs. Hollywood Hogan - WM18
4.) Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat - WMIII
3.) Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels (ladder match) - WMX
2.) Dudleys vs. Hardys vs. Edge & Christian (triple ladder match) - WM16
1.) Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (iron man match) - WMXII
Does anyone know the songs that they played during the #1 match? I can't get em outta my head and don't know what to search for.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:04 PM   #826 (permalink)
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First off all I have to say a lot of matches didn't turn out the way I expected... As always, i'm just giving the match endings.

United States Championship Match
John Cena vs. The Big Show

Cena grabbed something off the mat and nailed The Big Show in the head with it and then he planted him with a FU and then the pin for the three count to win the United States Championship!

Winner: John Cena


World Tag Team Championship Match
La Resistance vs. The Dudley Boyz vs. Garrison Cade and Mark Jindrak vs. Booker T and Rob Van Dam

Winners: Booker T and Rob Van Dam


Single’s Match
Christian vs Chris Jericho

Christian gave Chris Jericho an implant DDT and then he pinned Chris Jericho but only got a two count as Trish Stratus nervously looked on from the ringside area. Christian started to get out of the ring but Trish Stratus climbed to the ring apron and Christian dragged her into the ring by the hair and then tossed her down to the mat. Chris Jericho then Christian a clothesline to the outside of the ring and Jericho went to check on Trish but Trish gave Chris an elbow to the face, thinking it was Christian and then Christian rolled Chris Jericho up for the three count to get the win!

Winner - Christian

Note on the Aftermath:

Trish Stratus looked shocked at what she did and she apologized to Chris Jericho as Chris looked very disappointed. Christian returned to the ring and Chris Jericho tried to get at him but Trish restrained him. Trish Stratus then slapped Chris Jericho in the face and Christian got in the ring and planted Y2J with the Unprettier as the fans heavily booed Trish Stratus right out of Madison Square Garden. Trish Stratus and Christian then left the ring together as Chris Jericho was left laying in the ring. Christian and Trish Stratus went up to the stage and they kissed as Chris Jericho looked on from the ring!



Handicap Match
Evolution vs. The Rock and Sock Connection

Mick Foley planted Orton with a DDT and then he pulled out Mr. Socko and sent Batista down to the arena floor and then he went to put Mr. Socko on Randy Orton but Randy Orton quickly gave Mick Foley the RKO and then he pinned Foley for the three count to pick up the win.

Winners - Evolution



Playboy Evening Gown Match
Sable and Torrie Wilson vs. Miss Jackie and Stacy Keibler

Torrie Wilson rolled Miss Jackie up in a pin for the three count to pick up the win.

Winners - Torrie Wilson and Sable



Cruiserweight Championship Match

Cruiserweight Open matches

Ultimo Dragon beats Shannon Moore
Jamie Noble beats Ultimo Dragon
Jamie Noble beats Funaki
Jamie Noble beats Nunzio
Billy Kidman beats Jamie Noble
Rey Mysterio beats Billy Kidman
Rey Mysterio beats Tajiri
Chavo Guerrero beats Rey Mysterio

Winner and still Cruiserweight Champion, Chavo Guerrero


Singles Match
Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar
Referee: Stone Cold Steve Austin

Brock Lesnar went for a spear on Goldberg in the corner but Goldberg moved out of the way and Brock hit the ring post and then Goldberg nailed Lesnar with a spear. Goldberg then picked Lesnar up and gave him the jack hammer and a pin for the three count to pick up the win!

Winner - Goldberg


WWE Tag Team Championship Match
Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin vs. the Basham Brothers vs. The APA vs. Scotty 2 Hotty and Rikishi

Bradshaw gave Danny Basham the Clothesline from Hell and then he went for it on Rikishi but Rikishi caught Bradshaw with the Samoan drop. Rikishi then sat down on Danny Basham to pin him for the three count to retain the Tag Team Titles!

Winners: Scotty 2 Hotty and Rikishi



Women's Championship Match
Hair vs. Title
Referee: Jack Doan
Molly Holly vs. Victoria

Molly went for the Widow's Peak on Victoria but Victoria countered it into a back slide and then a pin for the three count to pick up the win!

Winner and still Women's Champion, Victoria



WWE Heavyweight Championship Match
Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero

With Kurt Angle on the arena floor, the fans heavily chanted "Eddie, Eddie" and while Eddie Guerrero untied his boot. Kurt Angle got back in the ring and put Eddie in the ankle lock and Eddie kicked the boot off. While Kurt had the boot in his hand he charged at Eddie and Eddie rolled him up to pin him for the three count to retain the title!

Winner and still WWE Heavyweight Champion, Eddie Guerrero



Singles Match
Kane vs. the Undertaker

Note on the beginning:
Kane's music hit in the arena and he made his way out to the ring and this is a one on one match with Kane against his very own brother who he buried alive at the Survivor Series last year, the Undertaker! After Kane got in the ring, the lights went out and we heard Paul Bearer's voice say "Ohhhhh yes!" Paul Bearer then came out with an urn in hand, followed by some druids and the arena filled up with smoke and Paul Bearer stood at ringside to await the return of the Undertaker. The Undertaker made his way out to the ring, using his old school Undertaker music, wearing a long trench coat and the fans were well behind the Undertaker as he made his way to the ring.

The Ending:
The Undertaker grabbed Kane by the throat and planted him with a choke slam of his own and then the Undertaker signaled for the finish and the Undertaker lifted Kane up and finished him with the tombstone piledriver to pick up the win!

Winner - the Undertaker



World Heavyweight Championship Match
Triple Threat Match
Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H

Benoit then turned around and Triple H went for the Pedigree but Chris Benoit was able to counter it into the Crippler Crossface to a huge pop from the crowd in New York City and Triple H reached to get to the ropes but was unable to get to the ropes and Triple H tried to counter the Crossface but Benoit held onto it and the crowd was WELL BEHIND Chris Benoit at this point. Chris Benoit finally forced Triple H to tap out to the Crippler Crossface and we have a new World Heavyweight Champion!

Winner and new World Heavyweight Champion, Chris Benoit

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meanspleen edit: I said I would do it, and I am... Hope I don't blow it up
edit 2: I blew it up... bback with another jpg.
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:07 PM   #827 (permalink)
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Pretty decent for a WWE PPV, but a MAJOR letdown as Wreslemania's come. Some thoughts:

John Cena vs. The Big Show
They put this as the curtain jerker? Not too bad of a match. Can't wait to see if they follow up with a big "WORD" dent in Big Show's noggin.

World Tag Team Championship Match
Really quick match. Some decent action, but nothing enough to really get into. Jindrak and Cade were useless here.

Christian vs Chris Jericho
Nice match. I thought Trish's turn was done pretty well. I don't know why they did it, but it done the right way. That didn't make any sense.

Evolution vs. The Rock and Sock Connection
Highlight of the match: Ric Flair doing the people's elbow. Seriously, Flair was DA man tonight, totally upstaging Rock. The finish came out of nowhere.

Playboy Evening Gown Match
Not too bad, but this was no Trish vs Stacy lingerie match.

Cruiserweight Open
Interesting setup to the matches. Like a cruiser tourney in fast forward. I would have liked a big 10 man elimination spot fest, but this was still lots of fun. Ultimo: get a shorter cape. =(

Goldberg vs Lesnar
Whoa. Totally surreal. Crowd was all over Lesnar and Goldberg. Chanting "You Sold Out," or "This Match Sucks," and the obligatory "Boring" chants. The finish totally sucked. They could have accomplished the same in 5 minutes, and save some face as well.

WWE Tag Team Championship Match
I think this went better than the World tag match, but still nothing special.

Women's Championship Match
Aw, Victoria wasn't wearing her butt shorts this time. Oh well. During the chase scene my friends and I were singing the Benny Hill theme. Nice touch withe the Barber giving Molly the broken pair of shavers, giving Victoria enough time to get the upper hand. I can't believe they actually spent time filming the whole entire shaving.

WWE Heavyweight Championship Match
Awesome match. Weird psychology going on, with moving from the midsection to the finish with the ankle lock. But an awesome match from top to bottom. Eddie has the greatest facial expressions.


Kane vs. the Undertaker
Great touch when Kane's pyro went off, the cityscape in the background was on fire. A pretty dissapointing match, however. It was looking good with Paul Bearer and the druids coming out, but then Undertaker came out looking like a cowboy rather than the dead man. He didn't really change anything except his music, and a new cowboy hat. He didn't even have the drawn on "tear" under his eye! Waaaah.

World Heavyweight Championship Match
This was one of those moments where I'm proud to be a wrestling fan. Great emotion from the crowd, fantastic finish. There were so many BELIEVABLE near falls, and that's what really made this match. MOTY candidate all the way!
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Old 03-14-2004, 11:35 PM   #828 (permalink)
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Wow. I can't believe HHH lost his belt.. Especially with he tension between Michaels and Benoit. I was so pissed when it turned into a 3 way because I thought HHH would never lose a triple threat. It's hard to believe that I pretty much like everyone that's got a belt right now. I guess Vince is going to bring back the WCW brand and give HHH the WCW belt... That's why he lost. Fucker.

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Old 03-14-2004, 11:45 PM   #829 (permalink)
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I guess Vince is going to bring back the WCW brand and give HHH the WCW belt... That's why he lost. Fucker.
tonight was the first time i've watch at all in probably 8 or so months. i was shocked that HHH was will to let himself lose the belt, and by TAPPING!!! that was a shock. i was rather disappointed as a whole though. and if vince is bringing back the wcw brand and giving the belt to HHH, then fuck, he's never getting a dime of mine again.
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Old 03-14-2004, 11:55 PM   #830 (permalink)
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I thought it was a pretty well rounded show. Some definate suprises... the trish/jerico angle in particular. wasn't expecting trish to turn. It was also nice to see rock and foley put over evolution. I am looking forward to raw tomorrow.
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Old 03-15-2004, 05:06 AM   #831 (permalink)
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It was a good show, fewer suprises, and no suprise fighters like last year (a la Roddy Piper) . The Heavyweight title match was a suprise, didn't think HHH would give it up by tap out. And it was cool to see Paul Bearer again.
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Old 03-15-2004, 10:05 AM   #832 (permalink)
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Personally it was a fun show. But few questions stick out in my minde

1)Is Christian about to get a big push as a heel now...
2)Why did they let Foley lose? (Flair was awesome )
3) OMG, how did they talk HHH into tapping out for Beniot (Plz don't let those WCW rumors be true
4) Is the WWE going to make the Undertaker look more like the old Deadman? I mean the promos for the match showed his old attire after all... And his hat,
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Old 03-15-2004, 10:45 AM   #833 (permalink)
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i found Wrestlemania entertaining. A little disappointed in the reappearance of the old Undertaker - his entrance was too bland.

i guess the WWE, for the most part, wants to push its new talent. Overall, the new talent won over the old last night.

Does anyone find the new generation of wrestlers to be a bit on the bland side? they have no personality or real showmanship. Maybe that's why i don't follow WWE that much anymore.
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Old 03-15-2004, 10:47 AM   #834 (permalink)
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oh and another thing.. about that Evening gown match. Since when did Stacey Kiebler pose for PB??
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Old 03-15-2004, 11:08 AM   #835 (permalink)
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Overall a good night. It isn't often I fall for the swerves but I actually didn't see Foley puting Orton over yet. I also never thought Vinnie Mac would ever have Benoit and Guerrero as champs at the same time--totally marked out over the Benoit win [fist marlk out moment in a long, long time].

Some of the early matches were a little flat and I expected some more surprises with it being such a hyped event--but overall the Guerrero and Benoit wins were worth the price of admission...plus Trish is way HOTTER as a HEEL!
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Old 03-15-2004, 11:24 AM   #836 (permalink)
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Did HHH truly tap out or was it Benoit saying Fuck YOU HHH and not releasing. You watch that and it looks like HHH is biting the hell out of Benoit's hand, even drawing blood. I can't imagine that if that were the true ending HHH would do that.

As for the "newer talent" I have a feeling Vince is going to try them out and see what happens. The product was getting stale and predictable. I also think that should the new talent fail Vince will go back fast to the old guys.
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Did HHH truly tap out or was it Benoit saying Fuck YOU HHH and not releasing. You watch that and it looks like HHH is biting the hell out of Benoit's hand, even drawing blood. I can't imagine that if that were the true ending HHH would do that.

I think everyone knows better than to double-cross HHH, especially at WMXX.

That guy would never work again.

I commend HHH for putting the belt on someone else. Succeed or fail, at least we'll know if Benoit can carry it well.
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Old 03-15-2004, 03:17 PM   #838 (permalink)
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Did HHH truly tap out or was it Benoit saying Fuck YOU HHH and not releasing. You watch that and it looks like HHH is biting the hell out of Benoit's hand, even drawing blood. I can't imagine that if that were the true ending HHH would do that.
I saw the PPV, but I didn't notice that...think I can find a clip of it anywhere on Kazaa?

Either way though, if Chris did do that, he is going to lose his title ASAP and probably fired. He will also have the undying love of all the internet community (as if he didn't already have it).
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Old 03-15-2004, 09:02 PM   #839 (permalink)
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So Vince made a pretty big announcement on Raw tonight. Next Monday, all the Raw and Smackdown talent will be entered into a lottery and the rosters will be re-drafted.
The rosters are in desperate need of a shakeup, and completely overhauling both brands provides a whole bunch of opportunities for fresh storylines. Although it could kill other ones, what do you think the chances are that Jericho, Christian and Trish will all end up on one show, or HBK, HHH, and Benoit? (pretty good I guess, given how 'random' this lottery'll be)
I'm wondering what this'll do to the titleholders on both brands. Would titles be brought over or vacated if a wrestler with a belt switches shows?
This could be a big opportunity for guys like Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas to develop a little individuality and pursue singles careers. It could also just be a way for Vince to force feed us HHH on a Thursday night.... how refreshing.
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Old 03-16-2004, 09:07 AM   #840 (permalink)
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It's certainly gonna be interesting to see how the "Lottery" is gonna pan out, especially 1 week after WM? It's gonna piss a lot of peoples off if they strip everyone of their titles and re-arrange the rosters, and the people at home that spent 50 bucks to watch Benoit win the title only to have it stripped and put back on HHH a week later.

Let's hope that Vinnie Mac doesn't blow this one.

Maybe when they are announcing the "Lottery" picks, Shane will come out with his own picks for ECW????

I'm kinda glad to see Brock leave only because I think the WWE burned his character out big time. How many times can you squash every wrestler on the roster? "He's a monster!!!" is all they can say? He's the WWE's Bill Goldberg back in WCW days. This unproven guy walks in and cleans up the entire roster and then the character just fades out.

Sucks. Let's hope that the Jericho/Trish/Christian thing gets a lot of work. I think this could be a good one.

One more thing... Don't knock Stacy at the Playboy match, Miss Jackie is a waste of WWE's time and $$$. I don't like her. Now that Brock is gone, I wonder what's gonna happen to Sable? Brock is the reason she was getting such a push and airtime (Being his GF and all)

Interesting times...
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