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Old 07-19-2003, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I got fired today!

I'm 18 and I have worked at this tire store for about 5 months. This place sells tires but, they alse fix broken cars. I went in there and said I want a job and the owner hired me on the spot. The owner was really cool. Him and his brothers own the shop. Well, today didn't start out good. I was driving a VW Jetta and i floored it driving down a alley and my boss' brother yelled at me. Then I was driving a Ford Tarus and I was backing up and I hit a Cadillacs bumper and I paniced and hit the gas more. ANd the bumber of the caddy wipped out the side of the car I was driving. I stoped and as soon as I got out, my boss was right there. He knew I fucked up the car. He was just standing there and I was just standing there next to this fucked up car. ANd he just said "Go home, get out of here" I cant belive a HUGE part of my life is gone. I'm such a loser and I considered the mechanics at this shop as my friends. Basicly all day I would help out two guys. They treated me so nicely. I swear no one was as nice to me. Everyone there was nice to me. AND I have no one to really talk to cause I have no friends. But, these guys would listen to me all day. I cant belive i fucked up. Now, my life is nothing. I dont do anything besides smoke alot of weed. But, working there made my life something. I was the whole shops assistant. I was always busy and helping people out. I would work so hard for these people. And now its all gone! What the fuck!? I cant do anything right. So, to all my "friends" at Northshore firestone. Fcuk, I cnat belive I'm crying over this shit. _But, my coworkers were my only true friends I had. And now I'm, afriad to show my face at the same place I worked at for 4 months.

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Old 07-19-2003, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yup, you screwed up.

Give it a couple of days, show back up at the place, admit you were wrong, offer to pay for the damages, promise you will be more careful, and respectfully ask for your job back.

Then actually do those things.

If you don't get it back, then you don't get it back. But hold your head up like a man as you go. You tried to do the honorable thing.
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would never pay for the damages done. It has to be at least a 100 bucks worth of damage. In a way its their fault. These guys had me busting my ass off everyday doing the shit NOONE wanted to do. And they made me drive these cars all over in tight spots. I never had anyroom to move the cars and I was driving with steel tipped boots. When I said I floored it in a VW I mean I did that driving in a stright line down a ally. When I crashed the Tarus I backed into a car going really slowly. It was a dumb mistake but, I have been working my ass off and I'm dead tired. I could barely see stright. This whole situation is just sad. I always showed up at that place and I was always helping the mechanics. ANd I was always doing shit for the manangers. But, Now I messed up and its all gone. I'm going to miss my friends so much, They were the only people who would talk to me.
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Business is business. Sorry, but if you aren't going to step up like a man and take responsability for your actions, that's that. I wouldn't rehire you.
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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northshore firestone? as in Northshore outside of Houston? I work in Humble up on the NE side and I get to go back to work today (on my birthday) to see if my bogus suspension is getting removed or if I'm fired over personal animosity w/ a manager. I know how you feel. I'm the guy that would leave work for an hour on the clock (2.13/hr without compensation) and go get extra keys made for the restaurant. I came in an hour and a half early on mother's day and worked off the clock out of some sense of obligation. I left our restaurant, jetted over to another one, and spent 2 hours doing laundry in 90+ degree heat out where the washing machines were (in shirt, tie and slacks) voluntarily. But the one time I don't want to pick up a table, I get suspended. Fuck it.
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Peetster is right, Vinny. If you like the mechanics there _that_ much, you need to go back, apologize, and pay for the damage. If they do take you back, I'd talk to the manager about your hours so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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In a way its their fault. These guys had me busting my ass off everyday doing the shit NOONE wanted to do. And they made me drive these cars all over in tight spots. I never had anyroom to move the cars and I was driving with steel tipped boots.
I'm just guessing here, but you're not a mechanic, right? You were probably the only unskilled laborer at the shop. The fact that they had you doing the shit work wasn't because they were trying to be mean to you, it's simply the only thing you can do on your own.

Don't get down on your boss for getting pissed off about the wreck. So you had to move cars around in a tight spot. That's part of the job. You knew that when you went into work that morning. You fucked up. Don't try to shift the blame to other people. Be an adult, offer to pay for your mistake and be more careful in the future.

Or would you rather spend your days asking "Would you like fries with that"?
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Old 07-19-2003, 12:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I would never pay for the damages done. It has to be at least a 100 bucks worth of damage. In a way its their fault. These guys had me busting my ass off everyday doing the shit NOONE wanted to do. And they made me drive these cars all over in tight spots. I never had anyroom to move the cars and I was driving with steel tipped boots. When I said I floored it in a VW I mean I did that driving in a stright line down a ally. When I crashed the Tarus I backed into a car going really slowly. It was a dumb mistake but, I have been working my ass off and I'm dead tired. I could barely see stright. This whole situation is just sad. I always showed up at that place and I was always helping the mechanics. ANd I was always doing shit for the manangers. But, Now I messed up and its all gone. I'm going to miss my friends so much, They were the only people who would talk to me.
*First of all, I was on my way to post my own thread but I saw this and said...."Let's have a look."*
I already feel sorry for you because you smoke weed. What a shame. Then you tell <b>your</b> side of the story. For all we know, you could have made more blunders, insignificant to you but maybe irritating to your co-workers. Yes, you FUCKED UP, BIG TIME! Because people are hissy about their cars. Hell, who wouldn't be. But are you feeling okay? $100 bucks worth of damage? You must be shittin' me. If you fucked up a bumper maybe 100 then again could be 500, fixing cars is one expensive business. Not to mention the scratches on the truck, no, that won't amout to 100 dollars unless the damage was really minor. Go to them, say you will work off the damages by allowing them to cut your pay and if they hire you, then your one lucky guy I'd say.
*Back to posting my thread*
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Old 07-19-2003, 01:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I read this earlier, and I thought it was bullshit. My apologies if it wasn't, Truth is stranger than fiction.

Go back, apologise. See what happens. Even if you don't get your job back see what they're up to, learn from it.

If it is B.S. well F.O....
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Old 07-19-2003, 02:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You are ? 18, ? There are folks who have been out-of-a-job because of downsizing - and still without work 18 months later.

Apologize like every one else has said--- After all you want a pacheck coming to you no ?? or are you waiting to start school in the Fall ?
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Old 07-19-2003, 02:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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They are probably insured so all you'd be responsible for is the deductable.Make the gesture and if they go for it ,after a while ,ask for some training in a more specific job . There is no shortcut to the top.Hey nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Old 07-19-2003, 04:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, this thread was my inspiration today, and thanks to the humbling advice and insight of some of you guys, I just owned up to being a stubborn kid who made a bad decision. The general manager took my side as I was asked whether I wanted to do something and just said no (to drugs too ). Honestly, there are times to stand up and stick by your guns, but there are times to swallow your pride and be humble. This is one of those times. Admit it was your fault, and discuss possible solutions. It's a rough market, and you may find that's your only job opportunity available right now.
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Old 07-19-2003, 06:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So you lost a job and had good friends there BFD. Go find another job make sure you tell them honestly why you lost your last job. Make new friends hell you are only 18 you have many more years and jobs ahead of you. Quit whining and feeling sorry for yourself go be productive. Hell losing this job as unskilled and sounds like unappreciated labor may be the best thing that could have happened to you, around the corner may be your dream job or another chance to learn a new trade or a good stepping off point to a great future.

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Old 07-19-2003, 10:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This is pretty much every pot addict coworker story I've ever heard. Stop smoking for one, that will help a ton. Get clean, go out, and get another job. Work hard, don't do the equivalent of ripping off someones bumper, and keep your job.

Watch those alleys too, doing 80 down them is a good way to kill someone.
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Old 07-20-2003, 04:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Phaenx: your hilarious man. You know everyone that I have ever known to be clumsy or impulsive has been chronically addicted to marijuana.
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Old 07-20-2003, 04:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I would never pay for the damages done. It has to be at least a 100 bucks worth of damage. In a way its their fault.
I would never hire you, man. You have issues accepting responsibility for your actions. No one forced you to drive 80 down an alley. That was your choice. No one forced you to run into that Taurus. It was your fault.

If you wanted the job bad enough, you'd drop the attitude, humble up, and make right what you did wrong.
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Old 07-20-2003, 08:49 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: I got fired today!

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I dont do anything besides smoke alot of weed.
There's your problem right there.

Now onto the job, even a tiny dent in a Cadillac's bumper is going cost some serious $$$ to fix, and what you did is going to cost a hell of a lot more.

Even though these employers may have been your friends, they had NO CHOICE but to fire you. You just cost them a lot of money, and bad word of mouth when the owner of the car starts telling all their friends why they didn't get their car back when they were supposed to because someone wrecked it more. No one will want to take their car to a shop that has a reputation for causing more damage.

My advice to you is get off the weed...clean yourself up and walk back into work like a man. Offer to pay for all the damage you caused (if you can afford it, or take it out of your check) and beg for your job back.

Edit: I just read that you aren't going to pay for the damages. And I can tell you, it's going to cost a hell of a lot more than $100 to fix that damage.

You need to grow up, and if this job and those people meant that much to you, you would make up for what you did

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Old 07-21-2003, 11:34 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Yeah, what they said.

If you loooove the job but still want to toke, cut back. Offer to pay, if its too much theyll probably let you pay it off in bits & pieces over a few weeks.

At liest apologise.
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Old 07-21-2003, 11:49 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Holy shit dude. There's no way that damage is just a hundred bucks, and if it was, thats nothing. Read all these posts, there's some good advice in here, and theres really nothing left for me to say about it.
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Old 07-21-2003, 12:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think we have a blaring majority decision on this one.

The moral of today's story is: Take responsibility for your actions.

Life is all about the decisions WE make.
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Old 07-21-2003, 05:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think we have a blaring majority decision on this one.

The moral of today's story is: Take responsibility for your actions.

Life is all about the decisions WE make.
I do believe Hal hit the nail on the head there.

*methinks the reason $100 is expensive is because that $100 could be used, in a much better fashion, to buy weed*

Not to re-emphasize anything already posted here (I think everyone pretty much got it right).....but $100 truly is nothing, especially if your working more than about 20 hours a week, even at minimum wage.

I don't feel sorry for you. I'm not too sure anyone here does. Not to be harsh, but its time you grew up......oh wait, someone already said that too
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Old 07-21-2003, 06:37 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Dude, you fucked up. Shitty jobs are a fact of life if you don't have training. You're gonna do the shit nobody wants to do until you learn the shit that everyone else can do. That means schooling, and a few years of apprenticeship. The shitty bitchwork jobs are a stepping stone towards learning a trade and any skilled labourer has put in thousands (yes, thousands) of hours of doing all the stuff that's, simply put, not worth a skilled person's time.

I'm not gonna say anything about the weed part except that some of us smokers can still do their jobs, and I don't know if you did, but for christ's sake, don't go to work stoned.
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I'm not going to go with the responsible side.... that's been hammered well into the ground. I'm going to go with the simple fact that you don't have good priorities. It's not about responsibilties but it's about doing what's right. You do what's right everyone respects you. You do what's wrong and well, you'll be remembered for the wrong reasons. Read my sig.
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Old 07-27-2003, 02:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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This thread is a perfect example of what is wrong with this next generation. The majority of them have fucked up priorities and refuse to take responsibility for their own actions. For something as simple as a failing grade in a class, they blame the teacher, their friends, their dog... everyone else except for themselves. And this child (yes, you are a child) blames his coworkers for wrecking some cars on the job. How did they do it? Were they the ones driving? Did they put obstacles in your way to make you drive around at the last possible minute?

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I was driving a VW Jetta and i floored it driving down a alley and my boss' brother yelled at me. Then I was driving a Ford Tarus and I was backing up and I hit a Cadillacs bumper and I paniced and hit the gas more. ANd the bumber of the caddy wipped out the side of the car I was driving.
You say it over and over again, but still you blame the other people.

If I brought my car to a shop and found out that some kid working there caused extra damage to my car, I wouldn't blame the shop. I would blame the irresponsible jackass who caused the damage, and I would make sure they paid for every ounce of it. No, I would not go through my insurance since it would make my insurance rates go up for something I really didn't do. The damage is your responsibility. So, don't sit there like a spoiled brat and say "I'm not paying for it."

Do my words seem angry? Well, they should. It's an incredibly sad situation we have here... And since he refuses to take responsibility for his actions (that includes the pot smoking and lack of friends), he will never change.

Getting fired is the best thing that could happen to this kid. Maybe the more he gets fired, the more he'll wake up and realize that he's the problem here, not the employer or the customers.
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Old 07-27-2003, 07:32 AM   #26 (permalink)
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well said. bravo.
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Old 07-27-2003, 07:47 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 07-27-2003, 03:14 PM   #28 (permalink)
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$100? Try more like $1000 or so. Most business owners don't have deductibles lower than a grand. If you sideswipe a Caddy, it'll be more than a grand to fix. I write estimates on these things constantly, and sideswipes are serious money. Add that to the damage on the other car, and you have even more money with the possibility of a second deductible.

Me? I say be a man and take responsibility for what you did. I, like everyone else here, have fucked up on a job before too. I took the blame for it and kept going. More than once, standing up and accepting fault has kept me in the job when I could've been fired.

Be a man. And don't even get me started on the weed.
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Old 07-30-2003, 12:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
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If they don't want you stoned on the job, they should have mandatory drug testing. What do they expect?
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:05 PM   #30 (permalink)
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In addition to what everybody else said, can't you still hang out with your ex-coworkers outside of work? That way you can still be around them, and when/if you decide to take responsibility for your actions they might be willing to put in a good word for you if you want to try and get your job back.
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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If they don't want you stoned on the job, they should have mandatory drug testing. What do they expect?
Oh dear god. I'm hoping that this was an attempt at humor?
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:37 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I got fired for the same reason at FORD way back when. I was a car porter for the service department, driving cars all day in and out of the service bay. One day i was taking a car out of tight spot and the car wasn't getting any fuel or anything so I stepped on it (big mistake). My supe said they were covered for it but the next day as I was timing out they said I wasn't working out.

And THEN when I went to pick up my final paycheck... they garnished the whole damn thing to pay for the damage I did....

Hence... I don't drive FORDS!!!!!
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Old 07-30-2003, 01:53 PM   #33 (permalink)
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While I sympathise with you getting fired, ( getting fired is hard on you ) you should have not been messing around like that. Going 80 down an alley is way too much, hell I dont even go that fast on a highway.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Did you actually get fired??? Your boss said "Go home, get out of here" I tranlated that into "You've had a bad day, take the rest of the day off." But seriously, time to pony-up, go back apologize for the mistake and offer to pay for the damages.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Let's see...part time employee, or at the very least, bottom of the food chain employee...goofs off, does damage, costs the boss money, on top of it cops attitude and refuses to even HELP pay...yep, bye bye, make sure to check the box 'do not contact prior employer' on your next job application.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:41 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I don't see anywhere where you were fired, but you DO have to own up to it. Your boss has insurance, but there is a deductable and this was your fault. If you didn't think you could do the job then you should have told them so up front.

All of the advice offered here may seem harsh to you, but you are an adult now. Time to act like one.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:48 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I think it's rather depressing that VinnyWS6 hasn't replied, owned up to doing wrong, or anything like that since his post about living on "Ling island."

As one of the "younger generation" (still in college, in my early 20s), I find you to be a very depressing sign of those younger than myself. You remind me of my little brother (though he doesn't smoke pot - thankfully). He got fired from his dream job because he goofed around constantly and refused to help the customers. Who does he blame? The company.

Kid, you fucked up good and proper. It sounds like the company was doing you a real favor for hiring you with no interview, etc. So you did the crap jobs. Are you certified as an auto mechanic? They can't let you work on the cars until you are. Even if you did nothing but sit around and watch, it's an awesome job to have - you learn a lot.

The damage to the cars can be repaired. Yes, it's expensive. Yes, it's a hassle. And yes, it will probably cost them business. However, shit happens. This happened, according to the post date, 12 days ago. I can only hope that in the mean time you've gone back and owned up, but if I was your boss, if after two weeks you still hadn't come back, apologized for what you did, and offered to work off the debt, there's no way in hell I'd ever hire you back or recommend you.

Anyways, I needed to rant after reading this whole thread, though most of it had already been said. You piss me off, as you're the sort of person that gives all of us "young adults" a bad name.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:55 PM   #38 (permalink)
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You know, this brings up a story from where I work. We have a kid (ok, he's 20, but he's still younger than I, so he is a kid) who fills esentially the same role, though he also does shipping and recieving. He will not take responsibility for any of his mistakes even when we lay it out in black and white for him. He has expressed wishes to advance, but when given the tools to advance he doesn't use them. He has probably cost the company thousands in hours spent fixing his mistakes. Yet, he always washes the bosses caddy, cuts the bosses lawn so he ain't going anywhere.
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:57 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Mistakes happen . . . that's what insurance is for . . . the claim would have been settled by now . . tough break . . .
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Old 07-30-2003, 05:34 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I woudn't hire you back, even if you did apologize. But maybe I'm just biased after reading this thread.
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