Mario

I use Wrestlezone.com for my news, it really takes me back to the days of the old Scoops Wrestling website, there are pop-ups I use the Pop Up Stopper that you can get for free from PCWorld.com

Maven and Storm did suck, and if Storm can't make you look good, then you need to go back to heat and be cained by Dreamer a few times.

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A few of my Raw and Smackdown thoughts

Raw

- Good to see both Steiner and Nash being sent to mixed tag match hell, hopefully Nash will quit soon.
- Why did they insist on booking all of those false finishes through the whole Christian-Booker T feud? Once in a while is okay, but when you're restarting every match, it just gets annoying, can't a guy cheat anymore?
- I laughed my ass off as Maven botched that hip toss, a rowdier crowd would have started chanting "You fucked up!" which I love.
- So was Gail Kim vs. Molly Holly the main event? That's just sad.
- As soon as I saw Kane bust out the gas can, I knew JR was gonna get burnt.
- All in all, that was the worst Raw I think I've ever seen, I wouldn't be surprised to see Vince jump over there after Vengeance to start another McMahon-Austin feud, taking even more time away from the wrestlers.

Smackdown :

- Benoit/Hardy was amazing. In the words of Crowbar "Hardy's face is a crimson mess!" I hope they keep V1 in the US Title picture.
- Jamie Noble is hilarious, I love the indecent proposal bit, it's a shame that Billy Ass has to be involved.
- Speaking of Ass, apparently he was Vince's first pick to be US Champ, but he hasn't been getting the pops Vince was expecting, setting up the much better Guerrero/Benoit match for the finals.
- Steph makes really wierd noises when she catfights, I wonder if she sounds like that with HHH? It's so sad that they're spending more time hypeing Steph/Sable than anything else on the card for Vengeance except Vince/Zach and the main event.
- I don't have much to say about the main event, I figured Angle would go over since Show and 'The World's Greatest Tag Team' (what the hell kind of name is that?) beat Lesnar last week. I like it when the brawl gets taken way into the crowd though.

Maveric

kane has been the only reason i'm still watching RAW. Smackdown has and still is more entertaining IMHO...

brandon11983

Last night's SmackDown (match-wise) was rather dull. What happened with Cena and 'Taker? My PVR fucked up and I missed it.
Eddie and Benoit at Vengeance should make for a good match. They were very entertaining as a tag team, and are pretty evenly matched.
I am still unimpressed with Ultimo Draggin'. So he can fly around and stuff... big deal... Rey Rey is cooler.
Steph and Sable were quite fun to watch. I know there have to be many a nip slip from Sable, but I haven't done a slow motion replay yet.
King Kurt triumphs again!! Thanks to the one legged wonder that is. His dropkick into backflip move on Sheldon was pretty cool.

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Kaos

Completely true. As much as the fans cheer and scream when he comes out, his abilities are really diminished. He's a lot slower in the ring, and it's getting painful to watch his matches anymore.

The Rock and Hogan put on some good matches, but that only shows just how good The Rock is.

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spleen edit 07/21/03 - Link was removed. dang. Ticketmaster found out

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Maveric

he "passed the torch" to The Rock and he should have just retired or atleast became a manager for some of the younger talent. they tried to do that with Rowdy Roddy Piper but they had him fighting too many of Sean O'hair's fights and that made him look weaker...

I like the role Ric Flair has taken except he's acting more like a young hot headed wrestler than the older, wiser, "dirtier player" that he used to be not too long ago... He needs to step back (wrestling-wise) and let guys like Randy Orton do his fighting for him. I remember days when Rick wouldn't even break a sweat because Arn "the Enforcer" Anderson would hand them their ass for him...

bondagegirl

I'm sorry if some of you guys here still enjoy seeing the flabby old Ric Flair in the ring... But GOD DAMN! I can't stand watching matches with him, He drives me INSANE! I can't stand that fake convulsion thing he does everytime he gets hit a little. Or if he gets slammed down on the ring or something, he's floppin around like a damn fish! I think it was last monday on RAW, when he wrestled with Orton and HHH, I officially made that the last match with Ric FLair, that I would EVER watch! It was horrible. He needs to stay outside the ring as a manager/ ring side coach, and never get into those wrestling speedos again!!!!




Thanks guys for hearing my rant!

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HeyAgain

Don't you like seeing his man boobs?

gduventree

Ric Flair must have gotten back into shape because I remember his man boobs being much worse than they are right now; they used to be all floppy and stuff. *shudder*

Himbo

I want to see the belt of Triple H. He is so boring I always switch the channel when he's doing an in ring promo or wrestling. What's the point. . . I already know who's going to win . . . he will or he'll lose after he's beatin by 10 guys. The strap needs to be placed on another. I still have a shread of hope that Trips will lose it to Goldberg at Summerslam. Alas I know that it will only be for one pay-per-view as the way it was with The Show Stopper. Cheers

meanSpleen

Spleens Raw Review

Oh man... what a boring show... Heres a run down of everything that I watched -

Gail Kim and Trish lost to Victoria and Molly. Ow. Wee... ooo... snore.

Randy over Val. snore.

I think Jericho beat Michaels... yup... he did. Snnnxxx...
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That was about all I watched. oh man, that was some boring stuff. Shoot. Kane should squash RVD. Otherwise, he isn't going to go over too well with the crowd.

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Top 3 best parts of RAW last night. (In descending order)

3. The way Jerry Lawler obviously thinks Coach sucks and doesn't want him in the announce booth. You can just see the frustration in the King's eyes.

2. When Kane tombstoned Linda McMahon. That segment just proved there is a God.

1. This might not be exact but this is pretty much what Lawler said,
Lawler: Oh, the Rockbo... Bookend on Test!

meanSpleen

OH HELL YEAH!

I just read the spoilers for RAW from last night, and it looks like Hurricane and Rosie WILL be teaming up!! Score one for the Spleen-man!!

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rockzilla

As much as JR annoys me, at he has chemistry with The King. The Lawler/Coach team consists of Coach saying something stupid and Lawler telling Coach that he's not JR.

Looks like the entire buildup to a Goldberg/HHH Summerslam match goes as follows :

HHH - "I-uh am-uh the game-uh"

Goldberg - "You're next"

Here's how the Summerslam match will go :

Spear-Jackhammer by Goldberg, HHH no-sells. Goldberg's out of moves and HHH hits the 'Pedigree out of Nowhere' for the win.

RAW has about a month to make it look like Goldberg has a chance, which he doesn't. And HHH will cement his status as "The greatest-uh of-uh all time-uh"

The best part of RAW was that it was Kevin Nash-free.

I was disappointed by the HBK-Y2J match, but I'm glad to see Jericho get the win over Michaels that he should have gotten at Wrestlemania. I'm guessing this'll just set up Orton-Michaels at Summerslam.

tikki

Glad I wasn't the only one who caught that :-)

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Daval

In Canada they can't show violence against women on TV so we couldnt see the tombstone

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Mario

Hey guys, I'm sorry I have been away, I was too busy thinking of how bad Raw was...

Linda got Tombstoned, yea! See my previous comments about banned moves and Pete Rose.

Hurricane STILL only get like a minute of tv time. (which was more than Nash) But I see great things in his future, as long as they don't make the Natural Disasters part 2. Earthquake & Tsunami anyone? Hurricane and Monsoon maybe? Feh...

Really no great points, they buried Storm with Rob Reiner... wtf??

Austin went home, I was hoping he would come out as Mr. America, oh to dream... Bitchoff still sucks...

Orton has promise, I wonder if hes that much of a prick in real life or if he pulls it off real well. I pray for the day he turns on HHH, but do you think HHH will put him over? I say no.

Goldberg vs. HHH the battle of no sells. Goldberg will win though.

Oh yea, Stacy was hot and Booker was good. But the shows don't grab me as a must see stuff.

Until next time...

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I missed about 30mins of the beginning of smackdown.. but from what i saw last night.. The only match im really looking forward to this weekend is the Stephanie/Sable match
Oh yeah.. and eddie/ benoit.

JohnnyRock

Too Much MCMAHON...can't believe that two McMahons are on the bill for V...and neither one is Shane O'Mac!!!

Eddie/Benoit will be great...slightly interested in the 3-way dance [would be better w/o the big slow!]

Other than that....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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THANK YOU! I want Shane! They need to bring him back, maybe it will wake a couple viewers up during RAW!

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Missed Smackdown!! Oops!!
But after reading the synopsis (aka spoilers) I found out that I didn't miss too much, except a V1 Hardy match (dammit!!)

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Other news:

"WWE has expressed some interest in signing NWA-TNA stars Low Ki and The Amazing Red."

Woo!! Low Ki has a great reputation, based on what I have read and heard about. It would be great to see him in the ring with the other great technical wrestlers.

Amazing Red = Another High Flyer. Don't be put off that he does the 619, and calls it the 718. Mysterio says that he is proud to be emulated. Heck, we might as well need a High-Flyers belt just to keep up with all the... high flyers. (bad joke. don't need another belt. Ten is plenty.)

2 Heavyweight Champs
2 US Title/Intercontinental Title Champs
4 Tag Team Champs
1 Cruiserweight Champ
1 Womans Champ

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tikki

Please for the love of god shitcan the women's division. I change the channel whenever the mandatory clusterfuck b/w stratus, holly, jazz, victoria, etc. is on. I am sick of it.

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Ganguro

i heart stephanie..
she can do no wrong in my eyes..
Shane-O is dreamy too, but we wont be seeing him in a ring for a looong time.

(i'm secretly hoping im wrong about that last comment though)

meanSpleen

SPLEEN'S VENGENCE PREDICTIONS

Lesnar vs Angle vs BigShmo
Lesnar will RETAIN the championship with BigShmo F-ing the entire match up, making it entirely unwatchable. See my previous statements about Big Show for reasons why.

Benoit vs Guerrero
Duh, Benoit wins the US title. Obviously.

VinnieMac vs Gowan
Gowan by disqualification. There is no way that VinnieMac is going to job to Gowan.

Taker vs Cena
Cena. Taker is getting old and needs to pass the torch on to someone else. Why Cena? He's done more cheesy promos than any other wrestler in recent memory.

McMaHHHon vs Sable
Uhh... Double Count Out. I don't know. Don't really care either. But, McMaHHHon will probaly win if a DoubleCountOut doesn't occur.

Gunn vs Noble
Noble will win, and get to sleep with Tori. Nidia is probably going to chair Noble so he is unconcious, and probably slam Tori as well. They will both be "sleeping" together in the middle of the ring because of this. Mr.Ass will realize that nobody likes him and will retire.

The Worlds Greatest Benjamin vs Mysterio/Kidman
Benjamin will RETAIN the championship, as Mysterio is impaled on a ringpost. Kidman will find out that he needs some character development and give Mysterio a shooting star press from the buildings rafters down to the ring.

The APA Barroom Brawl
Umm... yeah. Have you seen the list of competitors?

Bradshaw, Faarooq, OHaire, Kanyon, Rhyno, ATrain, Brooklyn Brawler, Doink, and Spanky.

Kanyon will be the first one eliminated, by Spanky (penis). Doink will realize that he used to have a career and eliminate ATrain. Rhyno will Gore Faarooq, but will be eliminated by Bradshaw. At this point, everyone realizes that OHaire hasn't done anything, and Doink, Bradshaw, Faarooq, Penis and Brooklyn Brawler will all eliminate OHaire. Bradshaw and Faarooq team up and take out Doink while Spanky is elminated by Brawler.

Bradshaw, Faarooq and the Brawler will all look at each other, laugh, drink a beer and all pass out at the same time.

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Yup

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Benoit vs Guerrero Duh, Benoit wins the US title. Obviously.

Either one of them would make a great champ, but Eddie's more over. He needs to cheat like hell to win the match, or snap after losing to shake his 'tweener' image. I'm picking Eddie, but he wins by cheating, they'll probably fight again at Summerslam.

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VinnieMac vs Gowan Gowan by disqualification. There is no way that VinnieMac is going to job to Gowan.

There's no way Gowan's getting a clean win, I'd even be surprised to see a DQ win. I'm picking Vince.

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Taker vs Cena Cena. Taker is getting old and needs to pass the torch on to someone else. Why Cena? He's done more cheesy promos than any other wrestler in recent memory.

I hope Cena wins. He's been doing a great job with his gimmick and Taker has nothing to gain from winning this match. Cena wins with the chain.

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McMaHHHon vs Sable Uhh... Double Count Out. I don't know. Don't really care either. But, McMaHHHon will probaly win if a DoubleCountOut doesn't occur.

Bathroom break

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Gunn vs Noble Noble will win, and get to sleep with Tori. Nidia is probably going to chair Noble so he is unconcious, and probably slam Tori as well. They will both be "sleeping" together in the middle of the ring because of this. Mr.Ass will realize that nobody likes him and will retire.

Billy Ass will win as his consolation prize for not having Vince hand him the US Title (thank god). He should still realize that nobody likes him and retire though

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The Worlds Greatest Benjamin vs Mysterio/Kidman Benjamin will RETAIN the championship, as Mysterio is impaled on a ringpost. Kidman will find out that he needs some character development and give Mysterio a shooting star press from the buildings rafters down to the ring.

Kidman has less character now than when he was with the Flock. They lose because they have to set that triple threat match up with Ultimo Dragon somehow.

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The APA Barroom Brawl Umm... yeah. Have you seen the list of competitors? Bradshaw, Faarooq, OHaire, Kanyon, Rhyno, ATrain, Brooklyn Brawler, Doink, and Spanky. Kanyon will be the first one eliminated, by Spanky (penis). Doink will realize that he used to have a career and eliminate ATrain. Rhyno will Gore Faarooq, but will be eliminated by Bradshaw. At this point, everyone realizes that OHaire hasn't done anything, and Doink, Bradshaw, Faarooq, Penis and Brooklyn Brawler will all eliminate OHaire. Bradshaw and Faarooq team up and take out Doink while Spanky is elminated by Brawler. Bradshaw, Faarooq and the Brawler will all look at each other, laugh, drink a beer and all pass out at the same time.

Didn't they mention Brother Love too?

Before the match, Steph, or Vince or whoever's in charge announces that this barroom brawl will decide the #1 Contender for the world title. Doink wins it after a whole bunch of difficult-to-follow and annoying to watch table-breaking and bottle smashing.

Doink faces Lesnar next week on Smackdown for the title and wins with the help of his tiny manager 'Dink' (I still remember that guy), the SD Main event at Summerslam is then announced as Doink/Angle for the title in a 60min ironman match.

Pfffttt, the APA'll probably really win it.

holtmate

Hey! Maybe the Big Bossman will show up during the title match with Big Slow's father's coffin again, and we can all watch the Bossman drag the Slow and the coffin behind his car...well, that might make the match enjoyable...

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tikki

I will be saving my $35.

*thinks*

I wonder if a friend would get it if I payed for pizza.

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Master Fap

my friend said on the 7/17 showing there was a nipple slip and 7/24 showing of smackdown sables top was pulled off... anyone got pics or vids? hook it up!

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holtmate

Well, just got back from watching Vengeance at BW-3's...glad I didn't have to pay for it. It was pretty bad, first, they burn off the US Title match, which should have been done later, it wasn't too bad. The rest of the matches were below average, and then Zack Gowen takes his leg off for his match against Vinnie Mac. I thought that was a pretty cool move for an otherwise bad match. Who's Vince going to wrestle next PPV? Christopher Reeve???
The title match wasn't too bad, even with Big Slow in it. Angle and Lesnar have some good chemistry in the ring. I would like to see thos two fighting for the title every month. It would have to be better than HHH defending...
Finally, the Summerslam commercial was the highlight of the PPV...Brock Lesnar giving an F-5 to a shark! Comic gold!

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Let it be known that I cannot see the future. That said, I was really, really off on my Vengence Predictions

I was only right when I said that Noble and The Worlds Greatest Benjamin would win. I was completely wrong on every other count. OOPS.

Oh well, at least Kurt is the champ. Hell, I'd be happy if Spanky (Penis) had the title instead of BigShmo. Hah. Anyway, yeah, good for Kurt. Now lets get Lesnar and Angle fueding for REAL!! Brock, go heel dammit!!

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Ganguro

heel brock, now that he can talk on his own, whould be pretty interesti9ng. I found out that if i wanted to watch wrestling PPV's for free in this town i would have to go to a strip club to see it. Needless to say.. i pussied out, but summerslam i'll be there! (well..if i cant go to summerslam in person. i'm trying to talk phred into letting me sleep on his couch for a weekend)

From reading the results it seemed like a pretty HO-HUM event..

rockzilla

RAW had nothing redeeming going for it until the last few segments. The Hurricane/Rosey bit was classic, I never thought that The Hurricane's Hurri-Powers could have made me want to see the half of 3 Minute Warning that didn't get fired.
Molly Holly won the title, that's good.
Then, the triumphant return Shane-O-Mac, he punched Vince out to get to Kane and then chaired the piss out him, I marked out like a hillbilly.

I ended up missing Vengeance, but I'm sure I'll see the Eddie/Benoit match sooner or later, and Brock F-5ing the shark, that's the real hi-lite of the night.

bondagegirl

SHANE!!!! SHANE!!!!! Shane O'Mac is back!!!!! WOO HOO! Well that was the only good thing about Raw tonight! woo hoo Shane! I'm so happy, maybe I'll start watching Raw again regularly! OH and what the hell is up with that match between Goldberg and Ric Flair next week, There is a prime example of misuse of talent... Rock hard Goldberg against fuckin flabby 50 year old RIC FLAIR!!!!! GRRRR ok well I'm going to go back to my happy dance knowing that shane is back!!!!


hehe!

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You must have been shitting yourself when you saw him come out last night

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tikki

About damn time my favorite McMahon returned. Straight up baller.

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Mario

Raw was the best in a while.

The Highlight reel was awesome, HBK was right on the money.
Randy Orton, Y2J, HBK, 3 way at Summer Slam??

La Resistance again proved they dominate the tag team division.

Hurricane and the S.H.I.T. need to get in the ring every once and a while, but very funny stuff.

Shane was awesome, who didn't love seeing him in action one more time. His match with Kane, expect some stipulation, cage or Hell in a cell.

SummerSlam is turning into a must see.

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Hey Everybody, RAW is coming to my home town of Vancouver, BC next Monday! Any other TFPer's out there that'll be attending the show?

Showtime

I wonder if Shane will do the "Which Way Did Shane Go" thing again like he did with Big Show.

Daval

I'm so looking forward to Shane promo's

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