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bgivnin 12-08-2003 11:39 PM

Battlestar Galactica
 
Did anyone watch Part 1 on SciFi tonight? I was really worried that they were going to kill the "franchise" with this mini-series, but I was VERY surprised. I taped it, loved it, and can't wait for tomorrow night's conclusion. :)

wondash 12-09-2003 05:39 AM

So far I've only watched the first 30 minutes (watching on Tivo very late). Better than I expected!!!

gnort 12-09-2003 05:54 AM

Hmmm, positive remarks. This may convince me to watch it when the replay it later on.

Cynthetiq 12-09-2003 06:31 AM

it's on the tivo... it will get some eyeball time in the next evening or two.

GSRIDER 12-09-2003 07:44 AM

The show was WAY better than I expected it to be. I got over the changed Cyclons real quick. I'm definitly looking forward to the rest of the story.

Mr. Mojo 12-09-2003 07:44 AM

If you get the chance watch it.

I was pleasantly surprised, I liked it. But then again I went in with really low expectations.

Of course I could have made it better…

Mondak 12-09-2003 07:53 AM

I really liked it a lot too, but I have always been a big Battlestar Gallactica fan, so it was nice for me to be aboard the old girl again.

I liked the concept of . . . wait it appears there are folks reading this that have not seen it so I better shut up on spoilers....

In general, I liked the new storyline. I also liked the "old" Gallactica concept (ok maybe a spoiler but we find this out in the first 5 minutes).

For all the money spent on this thing though, I would think that the Computer Graphics would have been better. I kinda thought that the textures of the ships were far too smooth and shiney. Kinda like they used an old Voodoo card to do it instead of some of the new stuff available. I always liked the burn marks and dirty Vipers that they had.

If you are a fan I would say watch it. It may be a little too geeked out for the general public, but that is not a problem for me.

GSRIDER 12-09-2003 08:15 AM

The reason there are no burn marks
Spoiler: Since the ships are in a "museum" they have all been cleaned up. I bet by the last episode they will be the dirty vipers they were before.

erion 12-09-2003 10:06 AM

I was not disappointed, but I was also not overwhelemed. There wasn't really enough action for my tastes, and Number Six freaked me out in the marketplace -- like really freaked my out. I had bad dreams about it.

I enjoyed the Baltar meets old lady moment. It was a nice insight into his character after he realizes what he's really done. I was also pleased to see that the Galactica still looked like the Galactica, if a bit smoother and larger.

I'll reserve final judgement until I see part II, however.

Lestat 12-09-2003 10:39 AM

I'm hooked, I'm hooked! It's way better that I thought it would be. The baby part was kinda disturbing though.... I'm looking forward to part 2.

That Cyclon chic is hot!

Mondak 12-09-2003 03:44 PM

I hear ya GSRIDER. I just don't know. I just mean they are all smooth looking (READ: Fake). The textures are all wrong kinda like they are from a computer game from 5 years ago or something.

Prophecy 12-09-2003 07:24 PM

I missed first part of this mini-series, I tried to tape it but I forgot to turn the VCR off… Is TNT going to re-run this anytime soon?

Cynthetiq 12-09-2003 07:34 PM

it's being reaired a bunch of time according to my Tivo...check zap2it.com local listings:

it's showing
part 1:
December 8: 9:00PM, 11:09PM
December 9: 1:17AM, 6:52PM
December 14: 7:00PM

part 2:
December 9: 9:00PM, 11:05PM
December 10: 1:09AM, 7:00PM
December 14: 9:09PM

Cycler 12-09-2003 08:23 PM

Good stuff I think series.

portwineboy 12-09-2003 09:50 PM

I love this. I'm watching part II right now for my second time.

The Starbuck character is great. The end of Part II? I won't give spoilers but I yelled out so loud my neighbor called to complain. (evidently people are very quiet in Nippon).

The drunken Col Tighe? The 12 models? The handycam shots of combat? Somewhat (closer than most) realist physics on space combat?

I love it love it love it.

bgivnin 12-09-2003 11:12 PM

I'll have to agree with portwineboy. When I saw the end of Part 2, I just about messed myself. That was the last thing I'd have EVER thought of.

If they don't make this into SOMETHING, I think they're nuts. Hopefully, this mini series lights a fire under someone's butt. :)

Cherry 12-10-2003 05:19 AM

I think the part with the baby was way over the line. It was gratuitous and it discolored my initial interest in the show.

Kadath 12-10-2003 07:05 AM

I watched the second hour of part 1 and all of part 2. It was much better than I expected. Starbuck is still ridiculous, but Olmos was excellent. I add my voice the growing mass that was knocked ass-over-teakettle by the ending. I'd watch a full series if they did one, but I feel like the only reason they got away with the ending they used is that they wouldn't have to deal with the repercussions.

GSRIDER 12-10-2003 08:06 AM

Wait..only two episodes?
I'm speechless. I think the first episode was better than the second. As my son would say... why all the kissing.
That little tirade between starbuck and a the XO was painfully lame to watch.
I wanted a bit more than the gave us here. I swear I didn't know it was only two episodes. I feel kinda ripped off.



Mondak 12-10-2003 08:43 AM

Ass over teakettle over the ending? Did we watch the same thing? I assume you are reffering to the Spoiler: fact that the public relations officer was a cyborg. That was somewhat surprising at best. I kinda actually figured he was.

I think it is lame that Spoiler: Number six is in Baltar's head. That is totally weak. I mean - does she then communicate back to the rest of the fleet, or is she just there.

I agree with the kissing thing and the stupid tirade. I think the making out stuff was all overdone. I am a black and white kinda guy and we only had so much time to spend with the charachters of the Gallactica. I would rather infer the sexual tension and spend more time seeing things about the ship and the technology. SciFi without the SciFi....hrmmmmmm. I can just watch real smut after I am finished if I want that stuff.

GSRIDER 12-10-2003 09:18 AM

Speaking of Mondaks Spoiler Spoiler: Did they establish that #6 was in fact in his head or just his sub-concious. Because at the end she did not know where he was. Which lead me believe that she was not in contact w/ him.

erion 12-10-2003 09:45 AM

I have not yet seen part II (there were other activities taking place in my hourse last night.

7:00 PM tonight and it's all mine!

Kadath 12-10-2003 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Mondak
Ass over teakettle over the ending? Did we watch the same thing? I assume you are reffering to the Spoiler: fact that the public relations officer was a cyborg. That was somewhat surprising at best. I kinda actually figured he was.


No, I was referring to the fact that Spoiler: BOOMER WAS A CYLON! That seems pretty fucking suprising!

Or maybe I wasn't paying proper attention?

healyk 12-10-2003 02:03 PM

I taped it and am looking forward to watching it tonight.

I for one don't really care that some characters were modified/reimagined/made into women. That said, there is one thing about the new series that does bother me. My recollection is that, in the original series, the war was between humans and an alien race, the cyclons being a creation of the enemy race. Now the cylons are creations of humanity come back to destroy us? I saw a preview of the miniseries where Ronald Moore claims this represents a 'fresh' retelling of the original. This is 'fresh'?? Haven't we, just this year, had two movie sequels to film franchises where the central theme is humanity threatened by its own creations?

I thought part of the appeal of the original was the overwhelming power and largely unknown nature of the hostile race. The nature of the new cylons seems all too familiar: 'We have met the enemy and they are us.'

GSRIDER 12-10-2003 02:20 PM

I guess my biggest beef with the show is I could not get the movie SCREAMERS out of my head. PKD fans should now what I'm talking about. The whole cyclons "evolving"... it's almost tit for tat.

mirevolver 12-10-2003 04:10 PM

I have to say that as I was watching it, I thought it was great. And then the ending came and I was so annoyed. I can not believe that they ended it on a cliffhanger. With that kind of ending, it shouldn't have been called a miniseries, but a pilot for a regular series.

Mondak 12-10-2003 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Kadath
No, I was referring to the fact that Spoiler: BOOMER WAS A CYLON! That seems pretty fucking suprising!

Or maybe I wasn't paying proper attention?

Ok - I got that.

Cynthetiq 12-10-2003 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by mirevolver
With that kind of ending, it shouldn't have been called a miniseries, but a pilot for a regular series.
usually with enough interest it does become one... one of the tried and true things about the mini series format...

Bloodslick 12-11-2003 08:36 AM

I don't have whichever channel this came on, and I can't say that I'd have watched if I did. Battlestar Ponderosa was, well, ponderous to me the first time I tried to sit through a few episodes, and it remains that way when I watch it today. I can never get past the feeling that I'm watching an episode of the old Buck Rogers series.

GSRIDER, I know exactly what you're talking about. Of course, I don't think that any idea seems in the least bit original once PKD had his chance at it. He always seemed to look at the aspects that others ignored.

Cynthetiq 12-11-2003 08:46 AM

weird because "Battlestar Galactica" (1978) [TV-Series 1978-1979] was before the "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" (1979) [TV-Series 1979-1981] unless you are really old enough to remember the 1939 Universal serial "Buck Rogers."

Bloodslick 12-11-2003 09:01 AM

Oh, I don't mean to imply that Galactica came before Buck Rogers; just that the two were nearly interchangable. Sorry if I was unclear.

MahlerIsGod 01-08-2005 08:21 PM

I have to admit it I was impressed! I saw it tonight on NBC for the first time and if they can continue this level of quality and drama on the series then it should be pretty good. I have one question: what I watched tonight was 3 hours long (from 8 - 11) so was this the entire miniseries or some edited/slimed down version? Just wondering and thanks

Kadath 01-09-2005 08:24 AM

Mahler: That was a condensed version of the two-part pilot(originally 4 hours) to shill for the series, which starts on the 15th, I think, on SciFi, because NBC and SciFi are owned by the same company.

Bratwurst 01-09-2005 01:26 PM

Is this going to rerun again? I want to set the tivo to capture it, but I want to get the full four hours. Is that still possible?

stevie667 01-09-2005 04:35 PM

I do love BG, everytime i watch it, even if the storylines are a little confusing or i miss half the episode, there is always something that adds a little bit more depth, or makes you actually understand that decisions and actions have to be made that will save the human race, and they're not always nice.
On the whole it is greatly produced series, and the acting is superb, especially with Baltar and Adama.

As for Starbuck being a woman, i'm just glad the woman they chose is hot :D

crossova 01-10-2005 07:30 AM

i never watched the original, and unfortunately i came in halfway through the first part of the miniseries so i'm a little lost. but from what i can understand is that this is the distant future and humans create robots, robots want to kill off all humans. Last few humans escape and are looking for a fabled place called "earth"...unkowingly there are some robots or cyborgs that are onboard the human ships....am i correct?

anyways, this is a very entertaining show, hopefully the series can keep me interested just as the other series on SciFi

japhyryder 01-10-2005 11:20 AM

I am going to have to rent this I never caught the whole thing on Tv the first time. It was pretty good what I saw though

MahlerIsGod 01-14-2005 05:45 PM

Just a quick reminder, the season premiere is tonight at 8pm (EST). I, for one, will be watching.

Willravel 01-14-2005 09:06 PM

HOLY CRAP!! That is probably the best series opener for a science fiction series I've ever seen. The potential just keeps growing. I can't wait to see this evolve into a classic, perhaps outdoing it's predicesor. If it hasen't already.

MahlerIsGod 01-14-2005 09:27 PM

I liked it a lot. I actually felt a sense of anxiety during the first episode, "33." I went into watching the premiere with very low expectations and came away very impressed. There is a lot of promise here.

Strange Famous 01-15-2005 01:46 AM

I hear those Xylon dudes look a lot better this time?

I used to have a crush on one of the female fighter pilots, I think her name was Sheeba? She was mad hott.

Damnfinn 01-15-2005 04:29 PM

Having been a fan of the old series, I'm totally in awe of how the new puts an edge and desperation quality in the story line. It seemed to me that these people are truely fighting for survival, not just farting along looking for someplace better to be.

runtuff 01-15-2005 05:05 PM

BG rocks! Can't wait until next week.

Kadath 01-16-2005 05:40 AM

Okay, I kind of backed myself into a corner, because I told my girlfriend I would stop watching the show if Spoiler: Boomer started "fighting her programming" and trying to help the humans instead of be a Cylon,and it sure does look like that happened.
Because of that issue, I didn't like "Water" as much as "33," but it's still a good show. Of all the character re-imaginings, I like Baltar best.

holtmate 01-17-2005 02:54 PM

I saw most of the mini-series, and I made a point to watch the first two episodes last weekend. Great stuff! I can't wait for next Friday. I may break down and buy a TIVo, just so I don't have to worry about tapes.
Now to buy the mini-series on DVD...

Rodney 01-17-2005 03:10 PM

I watched the original show back in the '70s even when my friends laughed at me. I was in my teens, and I liked it, hokey though it was.

I've raised my standards since then, and the new Battlestar Galactica is in all ways a better show than the original, and yet....

It just doesn't grab me. Too grim, too relentless, doesn't ever let up. The miniseries was okay, but I found myself zoning out during the first too regular episodes. They need a character to speak up every five minutes and say "Attention please: EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HELL! Thank you.." Because that's about where the series is at right now.

I'll give it another try, but I wasn't particularly compelled by it.

mrklixx 01-17-2005 08:35 PM

I miss a couple of things from the OG (Original Galactica). I miss the wooshing sound of the thrusters on the vipers, and I miss the Egyptian/Aztec tie in. Also, JMO, but the "Cylon in Baltar's head" is starting to wear thin after just these few episodes. And I bet Richard Hatch is sporting wood that he gets to be in the new series. :D

thesupermikey 01-17-2005 09:43 PM

i had not seen the original show before this past weekend. I have to say that the new show grabbed me in a way a Sci-fi TV show has failed to do since for a long time. Firefly was wonderful, but doomed to the fact that it was on Fox on Friday nights.

Galactica has everything I want in military sci-fi. Cool plans, shit blowing up and massive amounts of human and real tragedy. This show is really about the genocide of the human race. To that end it does wonderful.

When show opens it has been almost 6 days since the last time anyone slept, but everyone carried on. They were doing what was right for their own survival. This is the kind of stuff that gets what it means to be human. Not some dumb reality tv bullshit.

Willravel 01-17-2005 10:03 PM

I never thought I'd say this but, Starbuck is really hot. At first I was pissed that Starbuck was a woman in the new version, but I think this is actually an interesting way to go with the character. Besides, the cast would be a bit male-heavy.

Zotz 01-20-2005 04:34 PM

They're doing a great job with the series. I was really impressed by "33" too! I like what they've done with the external ship shots (very little sound).

ICER 01-20-2005 05:25 PM

I'm kinda on the fence post here. I loved the OG. And so far the new one is ok. I like that fact the Starbuck is a female. As I do with Boomer. I like that fact the Apollo and Adoma have real father son issues (unlike the OG where it was a perfect relationship. that was just spooky) basically. I like the way the characters story lines interact with each other.

Now the reason why I'm on the post:
First off. the lingo; I miss the way said things or told time. you know. sectons, yearns. mircons (or as Mad magazine put it 'Two tacos past a burrito') the names for things we have that they also have.

And the action. I miss the laser pulse blowing up a Cylon (although the machine gun effect is kinda cool)

It seems to me that they took the OG story line. and reversed it. from action to story. Which is OK. But Glen Larson knew what he was doing when he created it that way. He used the same formula in shows like Buck Rogers, The Six Million Dollar Man and Knight Rider. To me. It seems the new series is missing the formula.

franzelneekburm 01-24-2005 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zotz
I like what they've done with the external ship shots (very little sound).

I'm really enjoying the show, but I think the special effects could've been a bit better. If I'm not mistaking, it's the same FX house that did Firefly (they even had a shot of Serenity in the first episode of the miniseries), and their work there looked absolutely fantastic, but doesn't quite fit here. The quirky, purposefully off-kilter camera work, lense flares, etc. just really worked better with Firefly's less serious atmosphere.

And a good point about sound in the space shots - Firefly was one of the first shows to have the space scenes be dead silent (kinda like they are supposed to be; they also didn't have crap whizzing by the windshield when they were flying, a la StarTrek), here they are back to having guns rattling, muted as they are. It's like the suits told the FX geeks to "tone it down" a bit with the geekiness.

It's still good, just not as good as we've seen these guys. The one aspect that isn't all that good is the physics - I cringe every time I see one of the "toaster" Cylons running.

franzelneekburm 01-24-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ICER
To me. It seems the new series is missing the formula.

Yeah I was kinda enjoying that - 'formulaic' isn't really a great compliment when it comes to television.

Anyway, I've never seen the original (from what I've heard it was fairly lame to begin with), but I'm very impressed with this one. It has it's share of cliche (and downright lame) scenes, but their are mixed with some really solid work.

Btw, it seems all your criticisms are of how the new one is not the OG - I'd say they did pretty well if the only bad points about the show are that it's not like the show they said it was not going to be like :) I believe the creators of the new one have said in interviews that they are not interested in trying to be a continuation of the OG, and that the only thing the two will have in common is the name and some vague correspondances in their "universes". So in other words: branding.

mrklixx 01-24-2005 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by franzelneekburm
The one aspect that isn't all that good is the physics - I cringe every time I see one of the "toaster" Cylons running.

Couldn't be any worse than the hobble/shuffle walk that the Cylons in the OG did. That's one of the things I mused abuot upon watching the OG recently. Why exactly were these slow-ass, dumb as rocks, tin cans the scourge of the galaxy?

Marburg 01-27-2005 08:56 PM

What's the deal with that photo that all the pilots tap when they enter/exit the briefing room?
*missed the first episode :(*

thesupermikey 01-27-2005 09:37 PM

I think its a picture of Helo...Boomers co-piolt. They all think he is dead b/c he gave up his seat in thier Raptor so Bothor could be evaculated of the planet.

guthmund 01-28-2005 02:01 AM

I didn't catch this show until last week (episode 3) so, I didn't want to comment just yet.

However, now that I've sat through the 4 hour mini-series and the first two episodes, I hope I'm not out of line when I say this show is.....really fucking cool :cool:

I like it. A lot. I think it looks very, very good. The writing is pretty good and the characters....well, there just doesn't seem to be anybody I dislike all that much. Even Dr. Balthar has me in his corner, despite the sketchy stuff he particpates in.

I can't say enough good things about this show so, I'll end it with the highest compliment I can think of.

Of all the new shows this season, this one is the only one that has me consistently on the edge of my seat when I watch it.

crossova 01-31-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesupermikey
I think its a picture of Helo...Boomers co-piolt. They all think he is dead b/c he gave up his seat in thier Raptor so Bothor could be evaculated of the planet.

i agree w/ you.
on another note, how long do u think before they find out Boomer's a cylon?

Charlatan 01-31-2005 01:55 PM

I just caught my first episode this weekend (I saw the mini-series last year and couldn't wait for the series)...

It was good to see Richard Hatch playing a role in the new series... I look forward to more of his "terrorist" character...

Olmoa makes an excellent Adama... he is full of flaws and subtext that Lorne Greene's Adama never had... I can't wait for more...

guthmund 01-31-2005 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crossova
i agree w/ you.
on another note, how long do u think before they find out Boomer's a cylon?

Well, so far, they've only shown two different Boomers, right? The one on Galactica and the one with Helo on Caprica.

The only way I can see them figuring out Boomer is a cylon is if the two Boomer's paths cross. I don't think Galactica Boomer knows she's a cylon. I think she suspects somethings going on with the missing charges and such, but I don't think she suspects she's a cylon. I seem to remember Six (the hot chick in Gaius' mind) mentioning that there are sleeper agents in the fleet that believe they're human.

All that said, I don't think they're going to figure out Galactica Boomer is a cylon unless Helo and Caprica Boomer make they're way back to the fleet. I figure that might take a while as we only seem to be getting bits and pieces of the Caprica story each week. So, I think Boomer's safe for a while.

God, I'm such a geek....

Willravel 01-31-2005 09:41 PM

I wonder if they'll keep the Boomer secret for the season ender? I'd like to see them posssibly turn her on the cylons by reprogramming her somehow, but that'd mean the doctor would need to help. Ahh the good doctor. That is a really good role (I'd kill for a role like that; complex, torn, excentric, gets to kiss a beautiful woman pretty often). I'm really looking forward to the episode where he has to choose to give himself away. So many storylines! The president has cancer, and will be lucky to finish her term in office. If she dies, will they have ther election or will the military take over? Will Richard Hatch run republican or democrat? This show really has me on the edge of my seat.

FunkyLamb 02-03-2005 12:38 AM

How fitting that Ron Moore success would just begin as it is announced that Star Trek light is flickering out.

I watched an old episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation the other day. It was written by Ron Moore. Everything that the new Battlestar has was there.

Congratulations to Mr. Moore for breathing fresh life into both a loved old series and into the Sci-Fi genre...and also also for driving the final nail into Rick Berman's career as head of Trek.

franzelneekburm 02-04-2005 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
Well, so far, they've only shown two different Boomers, right? The one on Galactica and the one with Helo on Caprica.

Heh, it's kinda funny that their synthetic androids posing as humans are called "Boomers", never occured to me before.

ICER 02-06-2005 08:14 AM

What I can't figure out is what the Caprica Boomer is up to? Why are the toasters helping Helo surive?

Willravel 02-06-2005 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FunkyLamb
How fitting that Ron Moore success would just begin as it is announced that Star Trek light is flickering out.

I watched an old episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation the other day. It was written by Ron Moore. Everything that the new Battlestar has was there.

Congratulations to Mr. Moore for breathing fresh life into both a loved old series and into the Sci-Fi genre...and also also for driving the final nail into Rick Berman's career as head of Trek.

I couldn't have said it better myself. It would be nice to see Moore take an active role in the next Trek movie (which is in talks currently, but don't tell anyone). They are looking to double the budget they used for Nemesis, and are looking for a way to change the trek universe so that it'll attract more fans. I'll keep everyone posted.

thesupermikey 02-06-2005 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ICER
What I can't figure out is what the Caprica Boomer is up to? Why are the toasters helping Helo surive?

That is what i am wondering as well. So far every week we have got one segment with what is happening there. I guess that is one of the great mysterys we are going to have to watch out for!

franzelneekburm 02-06-2005 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICER
What I can't figure out is what the Caprica Boomer is up to? Why are the toasters helping Helo surive?

I'm confused, and I don't want to spoil anything for anyone - I've been borrowing the episodes from my internet friends, and that question was more than answered around episode 10 or so.

Is whatever run most people are watching not up to that yet?

Kadath 02-06-2005 07:12 PM

"Whatever run" is the US SciFi run. Episode 105 debuted two nights ago. Your internet friends are likely pulling from the UK run.

franzelneekburm 02-06-2005 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kadath
"Whatever run" is the US SciFi run. Episode 105 debuted two nights ago. Your internet friends are likely pulling from the UK run.

Thanks, will keep my mouth shut then.

02-06-2005 10:24 PM

I haven't seen the regular episodes yet but I caught the mini series and after reading this post I am going to have to catch up.

guthmund 02-06-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICER
What I can't figure out is what the Caprica Boomer is up to? Why are the toasters helping Helo surive?

What I can't figure out, is why the cylons are helping the humans at all?

There have been plenty of instances where the cylons talk of destroying the humans and plenty of instances where Gaius' Six (the one in his head) has gone to great lengths to drop hints that have helped them to survive.

I think, perhaps, that the cylons aren't of one mind in how to deal with the humans. Maybe not out and out disagreement, but maybe Gaius' Six is part of a group who are trying to help keep the humans alive for some reason.

Whatever's going on, the cylon in Dr. Baltar's head doesn't act like all the other cylons. She keeps talking about God, His plan and His will, which is something I haven't seen any of the other cylons talking about.

By the way, episode 5 was pretty frakkin' cool (if I may indulge in the vernacular :) ) Adama, who typically is fairly in control of himself, just lost it when he was talking to Tigh.

All in all, I have to say the more I watch this show, the more I'm impressed by it.

thesupermikey 02-07-2005 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guthmund
What I can't figure out, is why the cylons are helping the humans at all?

There have been plenty of instances where the cylons talk of destroying the humans and plenty of instances where Gaius' Six (the one in his head) has gone to great lengths to drop hints that have helped them to survive.

I think, perhaps, that the cylons aren't of one mind in how to deal with the humans. Maybe not out and out disagreement, but maybe Gaius' Six is part of a group who are trying to help keep the humans alive for some reason.

If i were to take a guess i would say that Gaius's Six from before Caprica was blown up fell in love with Gaius. There are at least 2 points when she asks him if he lovers her. She know that Gaius could die so she plants a chip in his head so that she can help him live.

guthmund 02-07-2005 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thesupermikey
If i were to take a guess i would say that Gaius's Six from before Caprica was blown up fell in love with Gaius. There are at least 2 points when she asks him if he lovers her. She know that Gaius could die so she plants a chip in his head so that she can help him live.

Yeah, I thought about that, but here's the thing that keeps sticking in my head.

When the Olympic Carrier came back and Gaius had his little crisis of faith in the back room. Six kept urging him to repent. It seemed like the President's decision to shoot down the Olympic Carrier hinged on Gaius repenting his sins. When he did, the President finally gave the go ahead.

There are a handful of instances like that I can remember in both the mini-series and the 5 episodes thus far. Six forces Dr. Baltar to go against his human programming as a scientist and rely on faith rather than logic before the crisis is averted. Six has said she loves him and that could very well be the reason why she does what she does, but I think there's something else at work.

wondash 02-14-2005 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel
I wonder if they'll keep the Boomer secret for the season ender? I'd like to see them posssibly turn her on the cylons by reprogramming her somehow, but that'd mean the doctor would need to help.

I can't see them ever revealing Boomer as a Cylon, at least not to everyone. She's one of the primary characters, so she can't be killed off and I doubt they (the writers) would change her primary roll in the story (like put her on the prison barge). It is possible that a few select characters could find out her true origin. My guess is that whoever figures out that Boomer is a Cylon won't tell her (Boomer). That way her character can continue to struggle with her 'fuzzy logic' programming.

fallsauce 02-14-2005 11:54 PM

A quick question for people with the Region 1 DVD of the mini-series: Is the extras (not including 'the Lowdown') worth US$10? Just wondering since the R4 DVDs suck on the extra contents, but on the other hand, at least it's cheaper than the US version.

Arrgh!! Extremely pissed off at TV3 right now, they're showing it on two weekends instead on the next day!! And just when I finally found something I like too! All I can say is that they'd better start showing the TV series...

/Rant over. Sorry about that. :p

So I've only watched Pt. 1 of the mini-series and I'm already this addicted, just hope the rest'll live up to my expectations, and from what I hear, it's going great!

And the fact that I'm watching this series at all is pretty much a fluke, I saw a banner on Television Without Pity (I think) which usually reviews all the good shows, saw the ad, remembered the banner, thought it was a stand alone, watched just to see what the fuss was about, and here I am, wondering if I should apply for a credit card just to order this one DVD.

Oh yes, never heard of the old series, thought it was a book that got adapted.

guthmund 02-19-2005 12:00 AM

I can't answer your question, but I think it would be worth the $10 just to have the mini-series on DVD as it really is that good.

I just thought I add a few thoughts....

I just finished watching the last episode and....wow. Just a great piece of storytelling the entire way through. Of course, I am a big fan of Dr. Baltar, so, it was nice to see an entire episode devoted to just him.

It raised some interesting questions though...

For instance, I always assumed that the version of Six in Baltar's head was the result of something she did to Gaius on Caprica. I guess the question is...what exactly is Six? If she's just in Baltar's head, how in the hell did she manifest physically on Galactica? If the physical Six wasn't the same as the Six in Baltar's head but rather working for her, how in the hell did the physical Six disappear so completely? Assuming they are, in fact, one in the same, why does she need Gaius at all? I was operating under the assumption that she was manipulating Baltar because she couldn't do what needed to be done as she wasn't really there. I guess that assumption was wrong as she manages to manifest physically to accuse Baltar of treason and make a move on Adama. So, if she can click in and out at will, what purpose does Baltar serve? Why not just do all the stuff herself?

I think there's something else going on here, but I'll be damned if I can see it. I don't know, maybe I'm not seeing it clearly enough. :hmm:

MahlerIsGod 02-25-2005 08:09 PM

I have noticed one thing whilst watching this series. First, I am amazed that I have never seen or heard of James Callis (Baltar). Not many actors could play a traitorous slash schizophrenic bastard and make him so affable. He steals every scene he is in. Hopefully, he will go on to do more great things

guthmund 02-26-2005 12:39 AM

Yes, he's very, very good.

Some more thoughts to add....

Another pretty good show.

How come the same picture the pilots tap before leaving is on the wall of the President's ship? It looked like the same picture. So, maybe the picture in the pilots' ready room isn't of Helo? So, what is it of?

Leoben, the captured cylon, kept spouting the God stuff as well. Maybe the 'human' cylons, who seem bent on helping humanity, aren't really with the toaster cylons, who seem bent on destorying humanity. Maybe it's something to do with just Six and Leoben, or maybe it has something to do with the fact that they've been 'humanized.'

Adama? A cylon?? Say it isn't so. This should set up some pretty good stuff between the President, who I really don't like, and Adama.

guthmund 02-26-2005 12:51 PM

By the way...

I ran across an article at slashdot.org...

Seems the sci-fi channel has put up the entire first episode "33" in an effort to expand the viewing base.

Here's the link to Slashdot.

It's crappy streaming video via realplayer, but my realplayer alternative played it just fine. Not to mention there are several deleted scenes available to look at. One even explains the picture that hangs on the President's wall, which, I believe is the same picture that hangs in the pilots' ready room

crossova 02-28-2005 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
One even explains the picture that hangs on the President's wall, which, I believe is the same picture that hangs in the pilots' ready room

you are correct. it is the same photo.

Charlatan 02-28-2005 01:51 PM

James Callis the actor who plays Baltar was one of Bridget's mates in Bridget Jones' Diary... my wife pointed this out to me the other day.

MiSo 02-28-2005 08:18 PM

this series is awesome. it has a great storyline and great cast.

they couldn't have cast a better baltar. the guy nails the part perfectly.

and boomer, she's HOTT!!

Charlatan 03-31-2005 05:18 AM

Looks like we are going to get a season II!!!

I am really happy about this...

LINK

Battlestar Galactica flies again

The remake of classic 1970s space yarn Battlestar Galactica is flying again, as Sci-Fi Channel US okays a second, extended season of 20 episodes, once again with UK cabsat channel Sky1 onboard.

Since its debut last October, the drama has been "tremendous success" for Sky1, said the UK network's head of acquisitions, drama and comedy, David Smyth. Likewise, it was "a rating juggernaut," according to the US channel, where it ruled the 25-54 demo for cable networks for five Fridays.

Production on the new episodes is already underway in Vancouver, Canada, bringing the total to 33 hours – longer than the original 1970s version, which ran to just one season. NBC Universal International Television Distribution shops the show outside the UK and the US.

Battlestar Galactica is written and executive produced by Ronald D Moore (Carnivale, Mission Impossible 2) and executive produced by David Eick. Oscar nominees Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell resume their roles in the new season.

Moore, who has been working on six new scripts to resolve the cliffhangers of the first season, said the new season would "delve deeper into the show's religious themes and open up the Cylon world."


31 Mar 2005
© C21 Media 2005

MiSo 04-01-2005 12:31 AM

great news indeed!

can't wait till the next season. the show has tons of potential.

guthmund 04-01-2005 01:01 PM

Scuttlebutt is, from perusing the boards at Scifi, is that the new season is supposed to start in July.

This is a fantastic show.

By the way, the season finale is tonight on SciFi. I've been careful to avoid seeing any spoilers, but the concensus is that this episode is spectacular.

I hope they're right. :)

Willravel 04-01-2005 03:48 PM

I suspect that Battlestar will start in July with the two Stargates. I also suspect that at the rate it's going, Battlestar will outlive Stargate SG1 surely, and possibly Atlantis aswell.

Charlatan 04-01-2005 04:11 PM

I certainly hope so will but sometimes the brightest burn out fast... and Battlestar is really bright.

Willravel 04-01-2005 05:39 PM

I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

Fremen 04-01-2005 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

**hugs willravel** :(

Willravel 04-01-2005 11:15 PM

Don't look unless you saw the Season Finale.Spoiler: Imigne my surprise. I natuarally assumed Edward James Olmos was bulletproof. Now I get to dispair until July.

guthmund 04-02-2005 12:08 AM

The obligatory HOLY FUCKING SHIT OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1!!! post

That had to be the single best season cliffhanger. Ever.

I was going to go listen to the Moore's podcast at Scifi before commenting on the season finale, but....well, I thought I better get that out of my system first. :)

Fremen 04-02-2005 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Don't look unless you saw the Season Finale.Spoiler: Imigne my surprise. I natuarally assumed Edward James Olmos was bulletproof. Now I get to dispair until July.

Yeah, it surprised a "Holy fucking shit!" out of me.
Especially who the perpetrator was. :|

MiSo 04-02-2005 02:45 AM

"holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!"

was my reaction to you know what...........


can't believe it, i was totally amazed, i would've never guessed it.

stevie667 04-02-2005 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel
I suspect that Battlestar will start in July with the two Stargates. I also suspect that at the rate it's going, Battlestar will outlive Stargate SG1 surely, and possibly Atlantis aswell.


Visit Gateworld.net, they have loads of info on release dates and whatnot.


I can see BSG doing extremely well, just as long as they can keep up good scripts.

Charlatan 04-02-2005 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

I am with you on this... give me one more season and I will build my own shrine...

Zeraph 04-02-2005 11:08 PM

I like this show and I don't. What I like is that it gives the feeling that almost any character could die, which makes them more real, but at the same time makes them less likeable as they are just some fiction character that may not even be around later.

The finale yesterday, was good.

I wonder how long this will last seeing as apparently the first only lasted a season. Though I just don't see THAT much else they could write about. They've already done the major stuff. But hey I'm not a script writer. Atlantis I'm wondering about too as SG-1 has already done the major stuff, and Atlantis isn't that much different a show. Guess it depends on how much the fans are willing to take.

BTW what is with the divine destiny theme? Seems a bit out of place for a sci fi (not that it can't be sci fi, just abnormal.)

Lestat 04-02-2005 11:11 PM

Edward James Olmos is the shit! Man, they couldn't of picked a better actor for that role! I can't wait til July, I'm hooked.

lordkos 04-03-2005 10:52 PM

I saw some ads for it and its been on a coupel times when flipping but i didnt really pay much attention to it.But sense there has been so many good remarks about it i think im going to watch it next time its on.

guthmund 04-03-2005 11:16 PM

It's my understanding from reading the boards over at Sci-Fi that the reason Moore had Adama shot was because he wasn't sure Olmos would be on board for a second season and needed a way to write him out of the show.

I don't know if there is any truth to it, but I found it interesting.

After watching a Battlestar marathon of the old series (I know, why bother, right?) and reading some of the threads about the older series, I'm particularly interested in who is going to show up in the new season of the new show.

Kadath 04-05-2005 06:14 PM

I have been avoiding this thread since Friday because I wasn't going to get to watch the finale until tonight and I knew I'd hit a spoiler. Now that guthmund has put it in the open, I guess we can discuss it.

It seems Olmos has signed on for season 2, so I guess he'll just not be very active in the first few episodes, which will let Tigh run the show and that character become a little more multi-dimensional, although I shudder to think of the power behind the throne that is Mrs. Tigh. I wonder what's going to happen to Apollo andf how they're going to keep Grace Park on the show; while the cliffhangers were exciting, the fact that it could have been the last episode (I imagine the show wasn't picked up for a second season until at least part way through the US run) means Moore may have written himself into at least one corner, but we shall see. I'm excited to see more of Richard Hatch in the second season -- his character is one of my favorites.


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