They didn't rip off Hitchiker's Guide. The concept is ooooold, not to mention it was central to the original BSG as well.

Yes, it was central to the original series, but they arrived in our present, not our past. Remember the Viper motorbikes? I'm not griping (just a bit), I just think it could have been wrapped up a little neater. And everyone going their separate ways, just didn't make sense to me, like the Adama is going to live out the rest of his days in isolation? And isn't Tyrol going to get awfully lonely out there on his island by himself? Personally I think walking off into the wilderness with just the clothes on your back after living in an advanced society pretty well spells extinction. Could you survive, say in the mountains, with just the clothes on your back?

I don't think the fans expect everything to be spoonfed to them, when the tagline, "All Will Be Revealed," is in each episode trailer and one of the more important questions really isn't revealed, then you're going to have some grumblings.

Simply dismissing Kara, along with head Six and head Baltar as 'angels' seems to me like a cheap way out of coming up with an explanation and downright disappointing when you compare it to how well they handled explaining the origins of the Final Five. I don't mind a bit of spirituality and ambiguity in sci-fi, but when you use that as a means to tie up loose ends it gives the impression that they just wanted to wrap it up and get the hell out of Dodge.

Other than that, it was a great finale.

It was good to see Adama taking the piss out of Baltar when they were all watching the cavemen, but I was pretty pissed off when Kara vanished without an explanation. And saying she is an Angel, just doesn't cut it.

Glad I wasn't the only one that thought of Hitchhikers. :thumbsup:

I also thought for sure when they were doing the final panoramic shots of ancient Earth that they were going to do the "There are those who believe" speech.

Smeth's right, that classic science fiction ending started a long, long time before Hitchhiker's.

BTW, we broke 1000 posts right as the series ended. Pretty cool.

Galactica 1980 is an abomination and doesn't count as the original series ;) The REAL original series started with the words, "life here began out there." The aliens didn't arrive in our present, they came in our past, and the original BSG has a slightly different take on it than new BSG, saying the aliens were responsible for the pyramids, etc. Kinda like Stargate :P

Adama went off to die, as did Tyrol. Adam said that without Laura life isn't worth living, and after such a stressful journey he was just done. He wanted to die in peace. Same with Tyrol. As for the rest of them, after running and living on spaceships for so long, they just wanted to actually live on a planet for once. And after everything that has happened, and don't really see anything wrong with people yearning for a simpler life.

The god stuff wasn't a cop out. Faith has been central to the show from the very beginning, and not all sci-fi has to answer everything with the "sci." Head Six said in the very beginning that she was a messenger from god. Turns out she wasn't lying, that's all.

You know, I've seen so many different reactions to the finale (here and at the AV Club) that I'm beginning to be even more impressed with it. There's no way a show with this much mythology and twists and turns should have a simple, happy wrap-up that everyone finds acceptable. It seems like half the fans hate the fact that there are any religious or mythical elements at all - as if all the mysticism running throughout the series was just a head fake, and a perfectly scientific and logical explanation for everything was supposed to be just around the corner.

The other half of the fans don't mind the religious aspects, but half of those fans think that "god" and the various angels all need to be fully explained. These strike me as fundamentally similar to the fans who hate the religious aspects altogether, because what they really want is a thoroughly explicable answer to every single thing that happened throughout the run of the show with utterly no ambiguity or doubt left at all.

The final quarter of the fans, a group that includes myself, is perfectly OK with a) religion being an important piece of the show, and b) the religious aspects being mostly unexplained. As far as I'm concerned, the mysterious religious interference throughout the show, whether it took the form of Head Baltar and Head Six, or Kara's resurrection, or shared visions, or prophecies, or the hybrids' connection with god, added a layers I found both surprising and welcome. Even though I was jarred by the introduction of religion when it first appeared, I've come to accept that the very themes of BSG - human nature and society, forgiveness and redemption, even the meaning of life - cannot be explored without grappling with it. How could one construct a history of man's attempt to answer these questions without placing religion at the center? For our entire existence, humans have believed in mystical forces that hold answers to these questions, and whether or not you personally believe in such things I think any show with those themes that ignored the mystical would be incomplete.

Furthermore, the fact is that BSG has been blaring its intentions with regards to religion for a very long time. There were the prophecies that led the way to Earth, and the visions, and the Cylons' monotheistic beliefs, and prophecies that told Kara that she would lead human kind to its doom. Way back on New Caprica, Leoban called Kara an angel. Hell, Head Six (and later Head Baltar) was around since the beginning and always seemed to know precisely what was about to happen and how Baltar (or Caprica Six) should react in order to stay alive. Brother Cavill was introduced as a priest. I could go on, but my point remains that anyone complaining that unexplained religious forces played an undue part in the resolution of the series in its finale has simply not being paying good enough attention to the rest of the show. The truth is that the show has been proclaiming almost from the beginning that religious phenomena was a part of the whole, and I think a lot of fans simply didn't want to take it at its word.

More prosaically, I think the finale itself did an excellent job of wrapping up the story. The first half I think we can all stipulate to as being awesome: final battle, big scary booms, some fan favorite characters eat it, 2000's Centurions versus 1970's Centurions, etc.

The middle portion took place in the CIC, where the Opera House prophesy is realized as Roslin, Athena, Baltar, and Caprica Six each chase Hera down like a runaway superball until she winds up in the hands of Cavill himself. Here is the first moment some people seem to have a problem with - Baltar's peace negotiation - but I thought it made a lot of sense. By this time, Baltar has not only learned that Head Six isn't a Cylon plot by Cavill, the final five, or anyone else, and furthermore that CapSix sees Head Him as well - AND they can now each see the other's mind partner. So what else can they be but actual, honest-to-goodness, sent by god himself angels? After all, Head Six has spent years tutoring him on religion - maybe she was just telling the truth. So, by finally stopping his bullshit cult-of-personality religious leader persona and genuinely believing for the first time, AND by being one of the few people in existence with enough guilt on his shoulders to truly understand the value in forgiveness, he becomes the only one capable of brokering the truce that really will save humanity. Which just so happens to be what Head Six has been telling him is his prophesied role for a very long time.

Of course, all that gets buggered when Torey finally (finally!) gets hers when what seems to be BSG's biggest bugaboo about humanity, the inability to forgive and desire for vengeance, rears its Tyrol-shaped head.

So then hell breaks loose, Cavill shouts, "Frak!" and them instantly kills himself because he is, among other things, a badass, and Kara's weird Dylan-esque mental delusions finally reveal themselves to be the coordinates to our Earth, circa 150,000 years ago. There must be some way out of here, indeed.

The final half of the final episode is basically everyone's denouement, as the Centurions fly away forever, the fleet heads for the sun, and 30-some-odd-thousand folks scatter to live the simple life on Earth with the homeopithicuses or something. I loved this slow, gracious goodbye to all these characters. Helo gets to live, Roslin dies happy, and everyone splits into different groups. The controversial portion here is over Kara's disappearance - is she an angel too? How come she was tangible and didn't know her role as opposed to Head Six and Head Baltar?

While I was appropriately shocked at this development, I've come to realize: I don't care. I think that a) she's been called an angel for three seasons now, but more importantly, b) her disappearance was poetic. She never did fit in anywhere, and certainly even less so ever since she kicked and subsequently returned. As she said, her story was played out and whether Sam's final words (that he would see her on the other side) were because he knew she was really already dead or any other theory the idea that she simply stopped existing when she wasn't needed anymore is beautiful in a way.

Furthermore, BSG has said over and over again that this has all happened before and will happen again, and very clearly the point of the very last scenes (current Earth, Hera as Eve, the imminent danger of the Roomba apocalypse) is that intelligent life is a test in character and god is forever measuring us. It was true in the original thirteen colonies, true on the (original Cylon) Earth, true in the new Colonies, true throughout BSG, and true today. I like the idea that god fudged and pushed until the remaining Colonialists and Cylons landed on Earth so that we could collectively give it another go. I obviously won't argue with those who think those final scenes drove home this point a little too clearly, or too obviously, or with gratuitous use of Ronald Moore's face, but I find it hard to argue that this wasn't a point that the show has made pretty much from Day 1.

I suppose, in conclusion, that I think some folks should be far less harsh on the finale than they have been so far. I hope people take some time to digest it before declaring that it ruined the rest of the series for them or some other such nonsense (I'm look at you, AV Club recap guy). I, for one, am going to miss the frak out of this show.

Okay, well, being about 20 years older than you, I actually wasn't referring to Galactica 1980, but to the original series, which I am old enough not only to remember, but actually quite liked for the time! The episode with the pyramids wasn't on earth, it was on Kobol. Starbuck and Apollo were dead and Adama's adopted grandson, Boxey, was the main son-like character then. They went into the past, to WWII to be exact, to stop another Galactican from helping the Nazi's to create the V2 and influence the present.

Hey now, I'm quite familiar with the original series. Age has nothing to do with it - that's what the internet is for ;) Everything on Earth was Galactica 1980, also known as season 2. The true original Battlestar Galactica had only one season and they never found Earth. It got canceled, and then brought back with a smaller budget (they reused all the effects shots from the first season) and with them suddenly having found Earth because the network was sick of spaceships.

As for the Egyptians, I wasn't talking about a specific episode, I was talking about the voiceover that was at the beginning of every episode:Anyway, I don't even think the current BSG writers did it because the original BSG had the same concept. The point is simply that it is a concept which is not uncommon and predates Hitchhiker's Guide, that's all. :)

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Guy44:I could not agree more.

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Well, except for being initially shocked when Kara disappeared. I actually just thought it felt right. Lee turned around, she was gone, and like Lee I just thought... "OK... I get it... that makes sense."

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: I bow to your superior geekitude :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

LOL, nothing superior, I've just seen it more recently. When my brothers (who are about 10 years older than me) were younger, BSG was a family affair (before I was even born), so somehow that has made me always interested in the series. I was actually one of those people who refused to watch the new one for awhile. Not because Starbuck was a female, but I saw clips here and there and didn't like the tone at all when compared to the original BSG. Then, for some reason, one day after the second season had already ended, I decided to give it a chance and start from the beginning. I'm glad I did, because I was hooked right away!

What I wanted to say has been said by you guys, way more elegantly, especially by guy44, so all I'll add is this,
Wow! What a great frakking series, and an awesome ending!

p.s. Cavill's exit was priceless and had me laughing out loud.

p.p.s. It was an honor to read your thoughts on the series, guys. Thanks.

I think Kara just started sprinting away and dove into the bushes when Apollo looked away.. but That's just me..

Best. Theory. Ever. :thumbsup:

I put a lot of thought into it.

I just picture her giggling like a little girl behind the bush, then she turns around and Tigh is there giggling, too.

That man can act one-eyed better than any other one-eyed actor I know of.

I'm in the "thank gods for ambiguity" camp. lurkette has decided she prefers it if they jumped back in time, rather than having been in current-humanity's distant past all along. It reads as a more literal "this has all happened before", for her. There's no evidence for that, but she's decided it's so.

My dad is in the "Starbuck jumped them back in time" camp too. I tried to argue that the last "earth" they found didn't have such recognizable features.

I can see Starbuck maybe jumping the Galactica back in time, but what about the rest of the fleet? How did they communicate with them to join the party at Earth 2: Electric Boogaloo?

Nopers, I'm 99.99% sure the Earth they finally settled on was a different planet than the burnt out Earth formerly populated by skin-jobs from Kobol.

BTW, how many times do you suppose "it"'s happened before? Are we sure Kobol was the first time the cycle happened? Is it possible that a much, much earlier cylon people survived and evolved into something very, very powerful that didn't like being called god?

They sent a raptor to the rendezvous co-ordinates. When they were watching the caveman, Admrial Hoshi showed up and gave Adama his pins back, saying that being admiral was more than he was ready for and it was the happiest day of his life when he saw the raptor jump in.

I think the earth that they ended up on (our earth), is another world than the burned out earth, i.e. they jumped in space, not in time. Both theories are plausible, considering it's all speculative anyways.

It's not speculative, because I posted an interview with Ronald D. Moore in post #999 where he explicitly says that they are two different Earths. The Earth shown at the end of season 3 - where North America was visible - was a teaser of things to come. The Earth they found midway through season 4 - where the land was covered by clouds - was the ORIGINAL Earth, but not OUR Earth. Finally, the Earth Starbuck brought them to - OUR Earth - in the finale, was the final realization of that tease we saw at the end of season 3. Two different Earths, same time.

Will: Jane Espensen has said in interviews that in the BSG universe, humanity originally evolved on Kobol. It doesn't seem the writers have given any thought to other iterations of the cycle. There doesn't need to be some alien or super-evolution answer to everything. As far as the BSG writers and creators are concerned, there's just a higher power. What it is will remain an unanswered question - in their minds and ours.

I have two questions having seen all of two minutes of this new show (which is 90 seconds more than my exposure to the 47 seasons of survivor).
Does this use more than just the names and ships in the original series, or tie into that in some fashion ?
Just what are these new cylons? I never have seen or heard if it was explained what they were in the first series.

Oh my goodness.

The new series is a "reimagining" of the old series, in that it takes some major plot points and runs in a different direction with them. And the human-form cylons are a long story. I strongly suggest watching the whole thing.

I loved the ending

The reimagining is what I suspected it was. I have only seen brief trailers on sci-fi - something about cylons looking like humans. The Sci-Fi channel lost my overall interest years back and has yet to get it again for the most part; that excellent "Beyond the Yellow Brick Road" mini-series and the pilot for Stargate: Atlatis were notable exceptions though.
Nothing about these trailers has given me any cause to attempt to watch it yet. I am thinking now I should watch the original series on DVD (it has been a few years) and wait for this Caprica prequel to hit DVD to really start at the beginning.

See, when I said it's all speculative anyways, I was referring to the whole genre of science-fiction, FTL drives, artificial intelligence, speculative in the sense that we'll overlook obvious implausibilities and improbabilities and impossibilities (such as explosions in space [no oxygen, therefore no fire] and why isn't everyone on Galactica floating in the lack of gravity [gravity generators?]) in favour of a great story.

Well they as much as said so, Adama and Roslyn sitting under their shade sail watching gazelles. "What is this place going to be called?" "We're calling it Earth." "Hunh! Really? Okay, Earth it is."

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Um.... Shut up, is why! ;)

Like Lee Odama said when Kara disappeared, "You won't be forgotten."

I feel the same way about this show, great conclusion to everything, it just feels right.

I just finished watching it and I take back my earlier words a few months ago. This is the best show on TV in a long time, probably in the top 5 of all time. Easily top 10.

The ending was beautiful. It was art. Everything came together perfectly if you've been paying attention. It reflected life, our struggle to define it, our racism, our violence. It balanced the scientific viewpoint perfectly with faith. It leaves it as a question, just like life. You can view the whole thing literally, that they really were angels, or metaphorically, creative license to bring about the end of the show.

What was the name of the missing cylon model that the original 5 boxed because he was too emotional or something? Wasn't it Gabriel? They never remembered much from those times, makes me think Baltar was a cylon after all. Just the only remaining model of his line. Also fits the angel thing (with the name).

Don't consider Caprica the beginning, for two reasons. One, it's like watching Star Wars: Episode I-III first and saying you're starting from the beginning, when they're really meant to be seen after IV-VI. Two, Caprica takes place in the same universe, but is really being made as a standalone series. They're going to great lengths to make sure one does not depend on the other.

Also, you should really watch the new Battlestar Galactica. It took me two years to give it a chance because I didn't like the tone of the show based on clips I saw. Problem was, I wasn't giving it a proper chance. One day, I decided to watch the pilot miniseries and give it a fair shot, and I was immediately hooked. By the first episode, I had already decided that it was better than the original.

The re-imagining is more than just using the same names. The core premise is still there in its entirety: the cylons have destroyed life on the 12 colonies, leaving only a rag-tag fleet of survivors led by the Battlestar Galactica. The difference is that the original was a fairly cheery show considering it dealt with the genocide of the human race. The re-imagining lends the topic all the weight it deserves.

As someone who really liked the original and was hesitant about this re-imagining, I really think you should give it a shot. Rent the pilot miniseries (basically a 3 hour movie since it was only in 2 parts) and watch the first episode of the first season...and if you're not intrigued by then, don't feel obligated to watch any more. But definitely give it a chance from the beginning.

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Number 7's name was Daniel, and he wasn't boxed - Cavil corrupted his DNA and killed them all. When Ellen resurrected, she regained her memories and would have known if Baltar was a cylon.

Other than that, I agree with you :)

Still choosing to not not watch Star Wars Episode 3 after suffering through the first two in the theatre and not walking out by a slim margin on Episode 2. Hard enough watching Plan 9 from Outer Space x2 with better effects; I do love the Ed wood classic though when the mood strikes me. I did rent Episode 1 a few years back and watched the good parts - not a bad movie when the total running time is 25-30 minutes,
I think it was the dark tone in the BattleStar trailers that stood out to me. Seems fitting when genocide is the start and theme of the show; happy tones fit there as well as a bright musical set in the Rowanda horror. And it has been too many years since I have watched consecutive episodes or even one of the orginal; reading the wikipedia entry/fan sites would surely jog my memory though. That robotic dog stands out to me in the same manner as the robot voiced by Mel Blanc in Buck Rogers.
If memory serves I was unable to watch the mini-series when it aired, might give a shot one of these days though. The finale sounded utterly confusing reading about it on some news site.
I will wander off elsewhere now unless I have something more useful to say, starting to feel like posting in a thread about that Superbowl/World Series (strictly my opinon) "big boring sports game" that I fail to understand.
one last edit: I liked that episoe where Starbuck (I think) is flying that hijacked Cylon fighter back to the Pegasus and they know it is him because he "wiggles" the wings.

Finally got time to watch the finale last night. Overall I liked it.

Athena seemed pretty reserved when dealing with Boomer. You'd think it'd be more like she pulls out her sidearm, pistol whips Boomer so she's on her knees, then executes her. At least that's what my wife would do if some crazy bitch beat the shit out of her, raped me, and then stole our kid.

Cavill's exit was priceless and kind of funny. Tory's exit was intense but fitting.

I don't think I buy the whole idea of sending all their tech into the sun to start over. I think with 38k people, some would not be willing to revert to stone age tech. Perhaps a group of survivors who wanted to hang on to their technology could've built a city on an island off the coast of Africa that the writers would imply was "Atlantis". Or something cutesy like that.

I felt like the way they handled Starbuck was kind of a cop out. But I read the post-episode Q&A and I guess I agree that it was better than if they had tried to explain it. Edit - I guess to expand on this after thinking about it some more, I liked Starbucks exit way more than if they had tried to work in something hokey like time travel or tried to explicitly explain she is not Starbuck the Grey, but now Starbuck the White or something. I guess my thinking is it could've been worse, and I don't think it was possible for the writers to come up with a good explanation that everyone would be happy with.

The end scene was kind of weird. Instead of Hendrix's version of Watchtower blaring, they should've just kept it playing quietly on the guy's radio in the background or maybe a street musician playing it, as a subtle reference. Instead of close ups of roombas and the creepy girl robot I saw on Engadget, just have the camera pan past a store showing the robots on TV briefly or something. I guess they did this to really get their point across, but for me it didn't seem like it really fit in with the previous hour and forty five minutes or whatever.

Also its kind of weird to think, God's whole plan for the Colonials and Cylons was to have Helo and Athena make Hera and then have her safely transported to New Earth so that she could get busy with some cavemen to make the species evolve into modern day humans.

I loved the finale. Everything about it was awesome. I loved how the colors on Earth were so vivid. Everything in the show was always dark and cramped, it was a great contrast for the ending.

It took me a long time to accept the religion in the show. Now that I have, things fall into place. I'll have to watch the series again over the summer when everything is in reruns.

I do think the survivors screwed up at the end by starting over. By doing so, the eliminate the memory of what brought them to Earth and what eventually will happen if you build the machines. Instead, the thoughts to build the cylons remains imprinted in their DNA (just like their fashion ideas, religion, music, etc) and 150,000 years later they are on the path to destruction again.

Well, I loved how every planet had its own look, in the show. Caprica was really bright and white. Kobol was kind of brownish. "Real" earth was dusty grey. "Our" earth was gorgeous and blue and natural. Perfect. The art design on this show was always just exceptional.

Sort of a "those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it" kind of thing, which now that I think about it, does explain the whole "this has all happened before and will happen again" speech.

Ratbastid, you thought Kobol was brown? I thought Kobol was green!

I watched the finale again today, and I kind of liked it, except I remembered one of the things that was bugging me about the finale in Africa: Where are the fucking lions? The only wildlife they can see are some gazelles and flamingos? What about the hippos (hippos kill more people per year in Africa than any other animal), elephants, hyenas, etc. I kept expecting to see a lion rip Roslin's head off when she and Adama were watching the gazelles.

Even besides that... to go from space faring tech to stone age tech doesn't make sense at all. Adama didn't want the fleet to lose Doc Cottle, but what good is he without any of his medical equipment, etc.? I think maybe some people would be willing to rough it out caveman style like Lee, but a lot of people would be too attached to things like electricity and stuff that they had even on New Caprica.

Yeah, they didn't look like they enjoyed roughing it on New Caprica in their tents, etc, yet there they are at the end of the finale, cheerily hiking off across the vedlt with their rucksacks.

Going back to the stone age at the very least bought them a ton of time until the next human-cylon war.

Something I just thought of... why are they making a 2 hour special "from their point of view" for this fall? Seems like they should've stuck it between the Season 4 break or something. I'm definitely going to set my DVR for this, but it seems kind of weird to wait so long after the series finale to do something like this.

Because SciFi (or SyFy as it will be known as) is trying to capitalize on this franchise while it's still hot. What they fail to realize is that with all of these specials and spinoffs, they will inevitably run this thing into the ground.

Yeah, but BSG did start out as a miniseries, and then has had two sets of webisodes, and also another "from someone else's point of view" movie in Razor that was pretty decent, so all in all they've done a good job so far. Plus, the show itself was only 4 seasons long.

What I meant was it seems like it'd make more sense for them to air it now or during the season 4 break (like they did with razor between seasons 3 and 4) while it's still actually hot, and not 6 months after the series finale when only the really hardcore fans will remember to tune in. I don't know I guess it doesn't matter anyway, just struck me as odd. Its not like its the first time SciFi... er SyFy... did something odd. And I agree anymore spinoffs and specials to milk the BSG franchise only serve to hurt the original show. The preview for Caprica they showed during the finale didn't look too interesting to me.

Alrighty then, I have added the first 2 of the 10 DVDs of the original series to my netflix que and will watch at least the first few episodes to get refreshed. Not sure how long nostalgia will last when faced with cheesy stories and effects. This was the show where that lame shepherd boy falls down the crack in the ground and comes back as some kind of angel right?
I shall compare with the new mini-series after that.

semi-offtopic: Is anbody out there planning on doing an updated Buck Rogers anytime soon? That could be incredible if done right.

I don't know if anyone watches numb3rs and saw the season finale, but I thought it was a riot that James Callis was playing the leader of a cult/harem. :lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, I saw that. I thought he was more believable there than as Baltar. ;-P

Also, the lady that played Ellen Tigh was on The Mentalist last night. Her daughter(s) had been kidnapped. One killed.
Another near Battlestar story.

Finally getting a chance to see the pilot and possibly the rest of season 1 if it is worth it soon. I shall share my thoughts on this new work then. A bit skeptical now but completely willing to give it a chance - has to be better than that recent Star Trek travesty.

You'll only have to read 1000 posts when you're done!

I have just finished the first 90 minutes of the new show, here are some of my thoughts:
- They should have kept Starbuck male, but she plays the part well so far
- It seems wrong on several levels that the pilot trades his seat for the "brilliant mind" scumbag that sold out the human race. Exactly how I would have written the story.
- Good suspensful ending, they have me wondering what happened to the President's and Apollo's ship with plenty of incentive to watch the next part to find out. I am guessing the ship jumped to warp/light speed as both characters are too valuable to kill in the pilot.
- I love the knobs, corded phones, etc. Reminds of the look in ST: TOS, which I still prefer over the newer series in that apsect.
- wonderful visuals and audio, especially showing the raptors flying silently through the vacuum of space. As "neat" as hearing the "swoosh" of ships traveling in space is, it is completely unrealistic and not always necessary but of course it is better in the dogfights though.
- How does a robot have "faith"? Or is that just some BS to appear more human?

enough for now, it looks promising and should prove interesting unless it drifts too far down some odd or silly path.

If you like the pilot/mini-series, You'll love the actual series. It took me probably 3 nights to get though the mini-series but after that I could and was watching 3-5 episodes per night until I caught up and had to start watching new episodes every week.

We should organize a mass re-watch-through!!

I thought so at first, but she (and the writers) proved me wrong. So very wrong.

Oh, you have no idea how wrong and fucked up things will get as the show progresses. Just...so much awesome.

Heh. You'll see. I guess a robot has faith the same way you meat-bags do. :-)

I think it stays very well-grounded except arguably for the season finale, which I quite liked, despite what can only be called deus ex galactica.

Enjoy. Truly a great show.

the second half of the pilot lost me twenty minutes in but I will finish it at some point.
My memory is a bit rusty, but is this womanising Baltar character the updated version of the evil human who was bossing the cylons around in the original series and always gettting the "by your command" response?

new trailer for BSG: The Plan
Don't watch this speed_gibson. :)

Is it wrong that seeing that trailer will probably be the highlight of my day?

From the Battlestar Galactica panel at SDCC:
*referring to "The Plan".

Could this be true? Could there be 3, 4, 5, 6 Battlestar made-for-TV movies in the future? Is this a wonderful thing, or could it be troubling? Could it overshadow Caprica?

My head's spinning.

So they're finally going to get around to revealing all that was supposed to be revealed during the second half of that final season?

Will: was that RDM?

I think there's plenty of room for in between stories... if nothing else, they have a whole year on New Caprica to play with. That said, I think I'd rather they leave it alone. BSG was great as it is, and as good as the extras might be, they are unlikely to live up to the series proper.

No, it was EJO.

I hope they don't delve into life on Earth too much, as it would feel more like a prologue than an important part of the narrative.

BTW, who else is loving their BSG season 4 soundtrack?!

*hops up and down in chair with hand raised high*
ME! ME! ME!

my updated thoughts on both series:
the new series was excellent in the first half/hour of the miniseries and completely lost my interest twenty minutes into part two several weeks back. I am thankful I got to see it from the start and form my own opinion finally, but it may be sometime before I even see the end of the pilot.
On the other hand, I was just watching the original pilot courtesy of Hulu.com (finally looked at the site) and want to spend hours now tonight watching those episodes. I DEFINITELY want to buy that on DVD and see what I missed watching as a young kid. That Baltar guy is truly scum in both takes though, he must do some seriously foul shit in the new series. Not going to do the "check wikipedia for full details" in case I ever do get past the full pilot or first season though. I still have no clue what happens in the new series and not going to spoil that.
*offtopic* HD DVDs are damn sharp looking */offtopic*
edit: the nukes and defense grid loophole in the new series are good and certainly better than the massive wave of fighters, and that scene with the little girl certain she is going to see her parents at the spaceport is sad and powerful.
I think it was the new Baltar halucinating/whatever else the blonde that finally lost me, but it was rapidly losing my interest for mostly intangible reasons (at least right now they are) from the start.

What about the pilot made it lose your interest? You should really finish the pilot and watch the first normal episode - '33' - before giving up.

dangit....

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got 2 of them half nekkid, but wheres mah Starbuck!?!? /drool

OMG. Grace Park is my new screen saver.


I have just obtained the disks for season 4.5. Over the Thanksgiving weekend, I watched as much as I could. I'm at the point where the fleet is looking for the Cylon colony.

so many story lines to keep up with. What I would love to have is more on Life on Earth prior to the departure.

oh and the blu-ray of season 1 is slated for Jan 2010

thats on my wishlist :D

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Not sure if you guys have seen this... but thought it might fly in this thread:

yup! post #1064

not that there's anything wrong with repeating the material. mmmmmm

gosh, so far behind. :p

Story of my life... a day late and a dollar short :p

When is this Caprica prequel coming out? I suspect I might see that before actually getting anywhere in the new series. So far it ranks up there with nearly every one of the relatively few Stargate shows I have seen on the "visually attractive but not that interesting" list.

January 22, 2010. It starts 58 years before BSG.

It's also worth noting that you'll get more out of it if you watch it after seeing BSG, but it's not a requirement. Caprica was originally conceived of as its own series, unrelated to the BSG universe, but Sci-Fi (sorry, SyFy) figured it's better to cash in on the love of BSG and tie the general concept of not-Caprica to BSG, creating Caprica. Because of that, I'm positive it will be enjoyable without knowledge of the BSG universe, but at the same time there will surely be many things mixed in throughout that will only have meaning if you've seen BSG beforehand.

Caprica is Fail. totally boring

just on the last episode of season 4.5 and I must say, I was surprised. Now I need to go back and re-watch some of the episodes.

I want to see what the old earth looked like. I want to see a diagram of the whole timeline/universe.

I dunno, I can't say I was blown away but I found it pretty interesting. I suspect I might have liked it more as a standalone series though.

This... is pure WIN.

hands down, best tribute on youtube
Loaded with spoilers

I recently watched this show from season one to end with mini series here and there. It's awesome.