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japhyryder 03-04-2006 07:46 AM

It was a pretty good episode nothing to memorable though

Willravel 03-04-2006 10:16 AM

The election has my complete and undivided attention, or at least it did until the episode ended with Starbusk under fire. Yikes.

I have to wonder what the show will be like if VP Baltar actually wins the election. Is the planet a trap....probably. Are the voters in the fleet almost as stupid as American voters? Yes, it apprears so. Don't vote for reality...vote for hope! But I digress.

Am I the only one who thinks that Dean Stockwell used zigggy to figure out that CPO Tyrol might be a cylon?

Mondak 03-04-2006 10:22 AM

So from the preview it looks like we get president Baltar. So what crazy thing can they spring on us that they have not already? All kinds of references to how much of a cliff hanger this thing is going to be next week, but though to figure out.

My thing doesn't seem to fit the story line so far so I will share it. I keep going back to the feeling that Roslyn has that we have been here before and we will be here again. While some details keep changing (Starbuck a woman etc.) they are stuck in a millennia spanning Groundhog Day scenario. Is that what they find out in the final episode?

I never look at the Podcasts or any of that, but this week they had a spoiler warning on them so maybe you guys already know what is up. If so, don't wreck it. If not, lets throw some theories out there and see what sticks.

Mondak 03-04-2006 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Am I the only one who thinks that Dean Stockwell used zigggy to figure out that CPO Tyrol might be a cylon?

Great reference. I love it. Since I am the Mcarthy of Cylonism, Stockwell is a Cylon. Bet on it.

By the way - as soon as they "use up" all 12 skin jobs, the Cylons prolly will just make a breakthrough to make some more I figure. Unless there is some signifigance to 12 (like the 13 tribes or something and the 12th is ... I dunno). Either way, I figure there is an out.

Willravel 03-04-2006 10:44 AM

Cylon 13 will turn up when they find earth....and finding earth WILL NOT be the end of the series. The earth thing opens up millions of possibilities....maybe earth has already been colonized by cylons, and the earthlings are having a similar problem with cylons following them everywhere...or maybe the battlestar and fleet show up, and it's durring the 16th century on earth...or maybe they show up and we have detryoed ourselves with nukes....or maybe we are hundreds of years AHEAD of the colonies as far as tech and we are able to have a full out war with the cylons in which we're not outnumbered and outgunned....or the battlestar comes across the Enterprise NCC1701-D...or (and this one is my favorite) it's an exact duplicate of the Galactica 1980 series, so it's really cheesy and stupid...or earth has made an alliance with the cylons and is a fat trap for the fleet....etc.

I also believe that Dean Stockwell is the most likely of all the current cast of being a cylon (besides people who we already know are cylons).

I would love to see the cylons fuck with Baltar by creating a cylon duplicate of him, despite his being human...just to shake things up. BTW, I think Ronald D. Moore is the best kind of genius; the kind that smokes, drinks, and swears. Reminds me of Samuel Clemens.

guthmund 03-04-2006 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondak
I never look at the Podcasts or any of that, but this week they had a spoiler warning on them so maybe you guys already know what is up. If so, don't wreck it. If not, lets throw some theories out there and see what sticks.

No spoilers, I'm afraid. There was the general spoiler thing about all the podcasts, but nothing particular to this episode. So, no worries there.

Dean Stockwell...the priest who doesn't believe in the 'power of prayer.' How great must that character be to play? I like Stockwell a lot and I'm glad he's on the show, if only for a short time. He was probably the only reason I stuck with Quantum Leap as long as I did.

Not much to say about this episode other than I think the writing has picked back up. Tyrol is probably one of my favorite characters on the show and it's nice to see him get some time on screen if only to inadvertently beat the crap out of Cally.

Moore, via the podcast, mentioned that the finale next week (90 minutes, woot!) is definitely going to stir some shit up. He didn't say what exactly, but he mentioned a number of times that it's going to be controversal. Throwing caution to the wind and letting it all ride or hang out there or something to that effect.

I wonder what's going to happen...I can't wait until next week even though it's the end of the season.

If Baltar becomes President (and it looks like he does) what the hell happens to Roslin? I can't imagine she'd have a place in his government, eh?

Willravel 03-04-2006 11:26 PM

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If Baltar becomes President (and it looks like he does) what the hell happens to Roslin? I can't imagine she'd have a place in his government, eh?

Roslin loses and spills the beans on Baltar and Caprica Six.

Mondak 03-05-2006 10:48 AM

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If Baltar becomes President (and it looks like he does) what the hell happens to Roslin? I can't imagine she'd have a place in his government, eh?

She marries Adama and her Cylon-rejuvenated uterus pumps out a kid who grows up and murders Baltar.

I dunno, but you figure it like this: time for another civil war / Secession scenario (last split was Adama / Roslin). No way they let that shifty Cylon-toadie really run things here. Adama goes back to Marshal law and ...naw these guys are too creative to do that again.

Maybe look at it like this: why would we dedicate a bunch of time to Chief now. I mean if he is just on a path of normal ol' self discovery, then why not wait to flesh that out until next season? That makes two possibilities stand out to me:

- Cheif has some huge role to play in the crazy ending of the season
- They needed a reason to introduce Dean Stockwell as Brother Cavell who will play said huge role.

Cheif has done a lot lately and the only argument that I can come up with to say he is going to have a major role is the stuff that MomSharon said about - what was it - darkness or evil approching. He is the first to experience the evil.

Now I think it is more likely that Cheif's problems were a vehicle for injecting Cavell. I think I read something about the Pegasus being one of the last episodes they will do from the old series. That being said, maybe there is some kind of Count Iblis thing going on here. Prolly not.

Instead, maybe Cavell has something to do with revealing the "it will happen again" aspect that I was talking about above. Genesis of the Cylons in some way perhaps instead. I don't know how clear they have been on who made 'em in the first place and how closely related they are to the tribes.


One final unrelated thought: do skin jobs age? How come we don't see a Six in her 40s or an 18 year old one (bet she would be hot and crazy in bed!)?

guthmund 03-05-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Roslin loses and spills the beans on Baltar and Caprica Six.

Sure, but who, other than Adama and the like, are going to believe her?

"Well, President Roslin, how do you feel about losing the election to that rather good-looking (and charming) Gaius Baltar? Is there anything he can't do and do well?"

"Um...wait.. Baltar has colluded with the Cylons...I saw him with a known agent before all hell broke loose....yeah....that's the ticket..."

Like Mondak said...another Civil War? To be honest the first (whatever you want to call it) wasn't really all that interesting. Moore seems really nervous about next week's show. I can't imagine his heart would be all a flutter over a story he's already tread.

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Originally Posted by Mondak
- Chief has some huge role to play in the crazy ending of the season
- They needed a reason to introduce Dean Stockwell as Brother Cavell who will play said huge role.

Two excellent points. At first, I thought the only real reason to bring Tyrol back was for something big and disturbing. He kind of freaked out a bit on Kobol, he's been kind of freaking out on the deck...just a reason to use a likeable character and explore some of the more disturbing shit. He's likeable, which makes his actions that much harder to watch, but also easier to forgive. But you're probably right...one of them probably has a rather signficant role to play in the finale.

Mondak 03-06-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
Two excellent points. At first, I thought the only real reason to bring Tyrol back was for something big and disturbing. He kind of freaked out a bit on Kobol, he's been kind of freaking out on the deck...just a reason to use a likeable character and explore some of the more disturbing shit. He's likeable, which makes his actions that much harder to watch, but also easier to forgive. But you're probably right...one of them probably has a rather signficant role to play in the finale.

Ok then. Now that we are on the same page - what does the good Brother have to reveal to us? I like my Groundhog Day loop thing, but I want to know what you all think.

mrklixx 03-06-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Cylon 13 will turn up when they find earth....and finding earth WILL NOT be the end of the series. The earth thing opens up millions of possibilities....

Fellas, we already have cylon 13............gaga googoo.

And all I can say is if they find Earth, I hope to the gods they have flying motorcycles.

Willravel 03-06-2006 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
Sure, but who, other than Adama and the like, are going to believe her?

Who else matters? Rosilin is still the president, and Adama is the Admiral. These people are in the highest positions in the fleet, and they would have the ear of EVERYONE. All the president needs to do is contact the radical religious ppl....


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Fellas, we already have cylon 13............gaga googoo.

Nah, it's half cylon...we don't even know if it's resurectable.
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And all I can say is if they find Earth, I hope to the gods they have flying motorcycles.

GODS YES.

guthmund 03-08-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Who else matters? Rosilin is still the president, and Adama is the Admiral. These people are in the highest positions in the fleet, and they would have the ear of EVERYONE. All the president needs to do is contact the radical religious ppl....
.

Maybe...maybe not.

If President George W. Bush stood up in 2007 and said that he believes the two candidates in the upcoming election have colluded with terrorists and you shouldn't vote for them, would you take him seriously? Especially if all he offered as 'proof' was the recollection of a some vague memory while he was in the middle of a major medical procedure?

Worse yet, if after the election, President Bush said he couldn't stand aside because the winner was a known terrorist accomplice? How long do you imagine President Bush could manage to hold on to his position even if he called out "the radical religious ppl?"

guthmund 03-08-2006 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondak
Ok then. Now that we are on the same page - what does the good Brother have to reveal to us? I like my Groundhog Day loop thing, but I want to know what you all think.

I really have no idea.

I like the Groundhog idea, but I don't think he'll use it. It was kind of the thing for Carnivale on HBO, which Moore worked on for a while. I can't imagine he'd want to travel down that road again...unless..he thinks he can do it better now that he's in charge.

How about this? Roslin is accidentally pushed out an airlock where she discovers, thanks to her recent infusion of super-Cylon baby blood, that she has superhero like powers. She annoints herself as "The Prophet" and solves crime in the fleet.

You know what I'd really like to see? I'd like to see Sharon get tossed out an airlock. I'd like to see Tyrol do it. Maybe some misguided attempt to cleanse himself of his demons. Or maybe, Roslin could do it. Maybe she doesn't want Baltar to get his hands on a Cylon....period.

So, to sum up...superhero powers for Roslin or Sharon tossed out an airlock.

Willravel 03-08-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
Maybe...maybe not.

If President George W. Bush stood up in 2007 and said that he believes the two candidates in the upcoming election have colluded with terrorists and you shouldn't vote for them, would you take him seriously? Especially if all he offered as 'proof' was the recollection of a some vague memory while he was in the middle of a major medical procedure?

Worse yet, if after the election, President Bush said he couldn't stand aside because the winner was a known terrorist accomplice? How long do you imagine President Bush could manage to hold on to his position even if he called out "the radical religious ppl?"

Diference between Bush and Rosilin: the people of the fleet trust Rosilin. Fewer and fewer people trust Bush.

thesupermikey 03-08-2006 11:04 AM

^^^
either of those work for me!

if i had to put money on it, it would say the neither canidate had a desisive victory, roslen calls out Baltar and is cylon loving ass, 'Pegisis Six' and "Baltar's Head Six" get Batlar to declar himself the winner with the help of of the Nuke.

guthmund 03-08-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Diference between Bush and Rosilin: the people of the fleet trust Rosilin. Fewer and fewer people trust Bush.

Baltar's offering them the promised land...well, not quite, but, you know...good enough. He's offered them the land, the sky and a reasonable explanation for the expectation of safety. Roslin's offered nothing but the promise of cold, lonely space and the faint promise of prophecy. So, they may trust Roslin, but not enough to give up the dream of homesteading...unless she can give them unconditional proof of his collusion, which she really can't...

I mean, that is if Baltar is indeed the new President of the Colonies...

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if i had to put money on it, it would say the neither canidate had a desisive victory, roslen calls out Baltar and is cylon loving ass, 'Pegisis Six' and "Baltar's Head Six" get Batlar to declar himself the winner with the help of of the Nuke.
Now there you go! I wonder where that pesky ol' nuke has been these past few weeks? Not to mention Pegasus Six, who seems a bit hotter than Baltar's Six....maybe it's the tanktops...

By the way...

It appears my dreams of pushing Cylons out of airlocks is all for naught...

Spoiler: Take this for what you will, but word around the scifi boards is that the big, earth-shattering, out on a limb thing next week is Moore is jumping the series' timeline ahead one year. Take it for what it's worth...there are also some pictures floating around out there..I guess, to prove that Moore is indeed jumping forward, but I haven't seen anything....definitive.

Like I said, take it for what you will. I prefer to see how it plays out before I get my knickers in a wad.

Willravel 03-08-2006 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
You're right. They do trust her. Apparently they trust her lot....just not enough...to, you know...vote for her.

I don't want to get too political here (tilted politics can be the debil), but I would say that they trust her, but they are going nuts living in space ships.
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I mean, that is if Baltar is indeed the new President of the Colonies...

I'd vote for him just to see thing to to hell in a hand basket.

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Originally Posted by guthmund
Spoiler: Take this for what you will, but word around the scifi boards is that the big, earth-shattering, out on a limb thing next week is Moore is jumping the series' timeline ahead one year. Take it for what it's worth...there are also some pictures floating around out there..I guess, to prove that Moore is indeed jumping forward, but I haven't seen anything....definitive.

Like I said, take it for what you will. I prefer to see how it plays out before I get my knickers in a wad.

Spoiler: Well that's scary news. If they do shoot forward one year, this could mean that Earth is on for next season. Frankly, I'd prefer to see the whole story of President Baltar, though. Skipping that much would deprive Baltar fans of more awkward moments when Six mucks with him.

crossova 03-09-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Roslin loses and spills the beans on Baltar and Caprica Six.

but who would believe her and what proof would she have?

crossova 03-09-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
Maybe...maybe not.

If President George W. Bush stood up in 2007 and said that he believes the two candidates in the upcoming election have colluded with terrorists and you shouldn't vote for them, would you take him seriously? Especially if all he offered as 'proof' was the recollection of a some vague memory while he was in the middle of a major medical procedure?

Worse yet, if after the election, President Bush said he couldn't stand aside because the winner was a known terrorist accomplice? How long do you imagine President Bush could manage to hold on to his position even if he called out "the radical religious ppl?"

i'd say maybe an hour or two before the official inauguration of the new president began

guthmund 03-09-2006 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
I don't want to get too political here (tilted politics can be the debil), but I would say that they trust her, but they are going nuts living in space ships.

No doubt. :p

I think the fact that they are going nuts means they won't really give a damn. Solid ground, fresh air and the reasonable expectation of safety would far outweigh the evidence of Baltar's collusion, in my humble opinion.

Anyway, enough of that. I guess we'll find out tomorrow night! :)




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Spoiler: Well that's scary news. If they do shoot forward one year, this could mean that Earth is on for next season. Frankly, I'd prefer to see the whole story of President Baltar, though. Skipping that much would deprive Baltar fans of more awkward moments when Six mucks with him.
Well, it's got several Galactica boards in an uproar. Spoiler: Like I said, (or at least I think I said..) I think Moore can probably pull this off. Carnivale took some fairly big leaps in the timeline as well, if I remember correctly, and I never really had a problem with that. If anything I think that if this jump forward happens, it'll give the writers an opportunity to shake things up a bit...drop storylines that really aren't working and maybe introduce some stuff right now that would take seasons upon seasons to put together following the traditional way they've handled the timeline so far.

I am really, really anxious to see what happens tomorrow night...

Buk 03-10-2006 01:40 PM

Season finale tonite, I am stoked!

How is the team of raptor jocks and marines going to get the survivors off Caprica?

Who wins the election?

Do the Sharon #1 and Six #1 make it alive and start a cylon rebellion?

Hmm...

pixelbend 03-10-2006 01:49 PM

I'll go on record to predict that we won't know who won the election until the beginning of Season 3. There, I said it.

thesupermikey 03-10-2006 08:34 PM

Spoiler: ill hold off...but can i say...this is the way TV was meant to be???

crossova 03-10-2006 08:34 PM

Wow what a finale. I won't even put up a spoiler...season 3 will remind me of the old scifi series "V"...

Willravel 03-10-2006 08:43 PM

I have to admit I'm in shock. Too much awesome writing to process at once. Spoiler: Now we have to wait for October for the resistence to begin.

thesupermikey 03-10-2006 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
I have to admit I'm in shock. Too much awesome writing to process at once. Spoiler: Now we have to wait for October for the resistence to begin.

Spoiler: what a great way to keep the show fresh. I mostly cant wait to see the breaded Chief kick some ass. His speech the the union members..fucking great stuff.

the gods this is a great show

Fremen 03-10-2006 11:17 PM

Damn, what a season finale! Spoiler: Near the end, it put me in mind of the concentration camps of Germany.
I'll add more later when I recharge.

Great show!

Mondak 03-11-2006 09:53 AM

I am going to break all this spoiler tag mayhem. I mean it is Saturday and if you haven't watched it yet, you should not be in this thread if you want a surprise.

Well - yup that is a way to keep the storyline fresh. I really liked the shot of Adama walking down the very quiet corridor and checking out the disrepair similar I believe to the first episode of the Mini-series. Classic.

So are we finally going to see some merit in Tigh next season? I mean really - he has done very little to endeer himself to both the fleet or the watcher. They did that whole "people can change" thing with him to Starbuck who seems to like him now. WTF. Maybe we see Chief run for office or something. Prolly he will just run the rebellion.

Now the thing I like most is the struggle feel of the fleet. I mean after the Pegasus showed up they had lots of modern fighters, and the tide was seeming to turn their direction. All the staff of the fleet gets pressed into service building "New Caprica" and the Galactica starts to show her age again. She was looking downright young before this.

Gonna have to ditch some ships or at least hide them maybe so you can staff the Gallactica and the Pegasus. Seems like they don't have enough people. Roughly the same number of ships (not sure how many went with Cloud 9 if any or the number of people who died) but there are roughly 39k on the ground. That would leave maybe 12-15k aboard the same number of ships. Seems beyond a skeleton crew to me.

I have lots to say, but here is one way to sum it up: I like when TV makes me think. I have been trying to devine what they were going to do for a solid week. I stayed up for hours last night trying to figure out what they were going to do next after I was done watching the episode. Lots of different threads. Lots of different ideas.

BTW, money plays that Duella and Anders are dead halfway through next season or so.

thesupermikey 03-12-2006 02:15 PM

http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3300/2/

^^^
has some kinda-spoilers. Moore talks about the future of the show.
has anyone listened to the podcasts? are the safe from season 3 spoilers?

MoonDog 03-12-2006 06:54 PM

I just downloaded the final podcast of the season, and will listen to it while at work. I like to wait a few days to let the episode stew in my head befire I hear what the producers were aiming for.

I THINK I like the new direction that Season 3 will take. Lots and lots of places for the show to go, and at the same time provides some relief from the "gotta find Earth" storyline.

kutulu 03-13-2006 08:02 AM

All I can say is way to go Baltar, you fucked everything up again. First you let the Cylons take over all your worlds and then once you are finally away from them you give a cylon a nuke and what does she do? Not much, just blow up half the fleet and leave behind a radioactive signature that allows the Cylons to find you and take over your people... again.

The guy has to be the smartest idot ever. How can anyone have any respect for his character?

stevie667 03-14-2006 02:23 PM

*shakes fist*

There was me going and thinking we'd have lots of space stuff, and they go and throw in a planet...again.

This better be good.

guthmund 03-17-2006 06:22 AM

Well, it's been about a week since the season finale and I realize I really don't have an opinion on the big leap forward.

In the beginning of the episode I cared very much. I watched the show (I thought it was pretty good, by the way :) ) and kept muttering to myself, "This leap thing...better be good....stab Moore with my spoon....schmuck.) But when it came....I don't know. "Hmmm," I muttered.

I'll miss the comfortable familiarity of the way things were, but this opens up dozens of different storylines and that's pretty great.

Some random thoughts on the episode...

I probably would have stolen the election. It's a horrible thing to say, but if saving humankind is first priority and with the learning curve as steep as it is...I probably would've tried to steal the election as well. Especially since Roslin knew that Baltar was a bad guy...

How great was it that Mr. I'm-going-to-rat-out-my-CO-and-try-to-score-points-with-the-old-man-because-I'm-a-big-fat-opportunist Gaeta was saddled with the responsibility of keeping Baltar in line and happy?

Brother Cavill. That scene where he meets his duplicate in the brig was pure gold.

Frak Sharon. Throw her treacherous ass out an airlock. That's some sound advice.

Did anyone recognize the bits and pieces of Tyrol's speech at the union hall? It sounded awfully familiar, but I wasn't for certain until I listened to the podcast.

Speaking of the podcast...

Edward James Olmos won't be back for next season. I don't know what that means really. I mean he'll have to be in the first couple of episodes if only to kill him off, right? They really can't make Galactica just disappear...Battlestar Pegasus? Anyone?

Brother Cavill will be back.

And there was some joking around, so, it's kind of hard to determine if these guys were serious or not in some places.

For instance, they hinted that next season is going to start 5 years from the season finale.
They kept talking about Sharon's whereabouts after the timeline leap. (Remember Helo was still on Galactica running the CIC) and how interesting it was.

I think you're absolutely right, Mondak. Anders is dead before the end of next season. If Dualla dies, it's going to be after Anders because that's one very nice little story there to play with. Does chunky Lee go back to the girl he's always loved or the exotic eyed beauty playing XO?

Whatever happens, I'm looking forward to season 3...maybe even more than season 2.

Mondak 03-17-2006 10:13 AM

Guthmund: No Adama! WTF??? Really.


seriously?

MoonDog 03-17-2006 02:35 PM

Did I miss that on the podcast? Adama go bye-bye?!

thesupermikey 03-17-2006 03:12 PM

the press release about season 3 said the whole cast was returning
with Lucy Lawless returning as a regualer.

guthmund 03-17-2006 08:32 PM

I knew that one was going to bite me in the ass, but it was just too good not to write....

Eick and Moore were having a bit of fun and I, apparently, am an idiot. ;)

During the scene with Adama, Roslin and the two Cavills, they mention that Cavill is coming back. Then Eick says something along the lines of "we should probably mention that Eddie won't be." Moore counters with the notion of an all CGI Adama as a replacement. I kind of guessed the CGI Adama thing was a crock because...you know...it's really, really stupid, but Eick lumped Olmos' leaving with the return of Cavill, which is true, and that kind of confused me.

I probably should have watched Eick's video blog thing before listening to Moore's podcast. Eick did some stupid shit in that too.

My apologies, gents.

As you were. :)

Willravel 03-17-2006 10:33 PM

So Master Edward James Olmos, His holyness, will be returning, then?

stevie667 03-18-2006 04:22 AM

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So Master Edward James Olmos, His holyness, will be returning, then?

Everyone look busy! :lol:

MoonDog 03-18-2006 05:29 AM

Whew! I seem to dimly remember them joking like that when I listend. I liked the "Fat Lee" comments - lol

Mondak 03-21-2006 06:56 AM

Heh - okay - maybe I should go back and read the rest of your other post now and see if you said anything. I went blank at "no Adama"

stevie667 04-19-2006 01:26 PM

After watching the cloud nine hostage ep, do they have something against lee and kara at the moment? They're really fraking those two up...

guthmund 04-20-2006 06:46 AM

They've taken a lot of the military stuff out....

I was watching the mini-series the other day because...you know...I'm a geek and soldiers were stopping to salute Adama in the hallways, they were opening doors for him, Tigh was giving navigational commands and roaming the CIC. I heard a lot of military-esque chatter between the deck officer and the pilots....

It was just a lot of little stuff that made the show feel more like Band of Brothers than the Young and the Restless.

thesupermikey 04-20-2006 07:14 AM

it does seem that a lot of the military stuff fell away. But i dont think it was made the show great. and frankly, i dont really miss it.

anther idea is that the longer the fleet was on the run, the more it broke down. When the pegisis showed up, one of Cain's problems with the Galactica was how much the military stucture had broke down.

stevie667 04-20-2006 01:06 PM

I can understand that, its abit like the whole voyager type scenario (because i've just been watching that on tv), the structure stays there initially, but it breaks down because of the cameraderie that develops, and the simple fact there is no longer a need for all this crap. There is still enough there for a military, but priorites change.

Would be nice to see some good military stuff again though.

Willravel 04-20-2006 02:49 PM

I suspect that we will be seeing more gurilla tactics than military in the coming episodes. Once Lee and Bill get back, maybe.

guthmund 04-21-2006 10:46 AM

It's not just the military stuff....it's the day to day stuff, which I guess the military stuff was a bit player in. I'd just like to be reminded every so often that they are on a ship instead of....the Peach Pit.

It's the little things once they're all added up that make this show so unique. It's why I watch. Someone mentioned in the Star Trek thread that ST:TNG was great until they kept using the holodeck. I don't know what they meant, but to me it meant unoriginal stories in impossible settings... Data, Geordi and Picard running through a Sherlock Holmes story is fun, I guess, but it isn't Star Trek.

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Scripted Series

'CAPRICA'

From executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick ('Battlestar Galactica'), writer Remi Aubuchon ('24') and NBC Universal Television Studio, this new series is set over a half a century before the events that play out in 'Battlestar Galactica.' The people of the Twelve Colonies are at peace and living in a society not unlike our own, but where high-technology has changed the lives of virtually everyone for the better. But a startling breakthrough in robotics is about to occur, one that will bring to life the age-old dream of marrying artificial intelligence with a mechanical body to create the first living robot - a Cylon. Following the lives of two families, the Graystones and the Adamas (the family of William Adama, who will one day become the commander of the 'Battlestar Galactica') 'Caprica' weaves corporate intrigue, techno-action and sexual politics into television's first science fiction family saga.
So yeah....a galactica spin off. i wonder how this is going to go.

Fremen 04-26-2006 08:34 PM

Hmm, do we really need a Galactica spinoff?
Especially this soon after Galactica's been brought back?

I say no.

It sounds like a high-tech Dallas and Dynasty in another galaxy.

thesupermikey 04-26-2006 08:59 PM

something not clear from this, if Moore and Eick are going to split between shows, that could be a problem.

other shows have done it, Buffy spun off Angel without any problems (will the 4th season of angel) so maybe they can work between good shows if they get a good staff of writers and directors

im going to go along with it, i just hope that it doesnt take away the great minds of the BsG and weaken 1 show for the sake of 2

Willravel 04-26-2006 09:14 PM

I say wait on a spinoff. I really don't like the way that Atlantis went (I think the whole cast has beeen turned into Wraith at one point or anyother, kick a dead horse much?), and I'd HATE to see that happen to the best show on TV. While the premice is quite intreuging, it is too soon. BSG fans are just getting used to the time jump stuff..this is too much.

japhyryder 04-27-2006 05:53 AM

It might be good, I will give it a chance atleast... anyone know when 3 starts?

thesupermikey 04-27-2006 06:43 AM

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anyone know when 3 starts?
octoboer somtime.

stevie667 04-27-2006 07:13 AM

The spinoff could be interesting, thats all i'm saying for the moment.

Mondak 04-27-2006 01:08 PM

In


.....bastards.....


great more TV to watch.

thesupermikey 05-07-2006 04:57 PM

http://community.livejournal.com/pantsketch/99256.html
here is a little love to fill out non-galactica months

stevie667 05-12-2006 06:42 AM

Spoiler: right, lets see if i can get this. Firstly, is baltar a cylon? I missed the mini-series and first few episodes of season 1, and in the recent episodes it was stated six died in baltars house. Shouldn't he have died too?

Secondly, what the hell would happen to you if you jumped into a mountain. Would you suddenly turn into rock, a la star trek, suddenly appear inside a moutain, completly intact, and live until you ran out of air, or just appear and crash into the end of your newly formed hole due to intertia?

thesupermikey 05-12-2006 07:18 AM

Stevie667:

No baltar is not a Cylon. Six saved his life. Its not really clear whether he remembers what happened (we dont even know what happend) We see the blast destory the house - the next time we see him he is trying to get onto Boomer and Helo's raptor.

As for jumping into a moutain - would guess it would be instrant death from the reaction of Kara and Helo..

Willravel 05-12-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevie667
Spoiler: Secondly, what the hell would happen to you if you jumped into a mountain. Would you suddenly turn into rock, a la star trek, suddenly appear inside a moutain, completly intact, and live until you ran out of air, or just appear and crash into the end of your newly formed hole due to intertia?

If they jumped into a cave or some sort of open space in the mountain, then they would be intact for a split second before they hit mountain. If there was no open space, then it's like the Pegasus ep of ST: TNG. You become one with the mountain. I'm figuring the odds are on the second one. Not a great way to go, but I imagine it's only painful for a fraction of a second. Mind you, this is all speculation. I don't know how jumping works.

stevie667 05-12-2006 01:51 PM

Thats whats been confusing me, they picked up the transponder, so that has to be intact, but in what state?

portwineboy 05-16-2006 05:05 AM

Has this http://galactica.emedian.net/tra.html season 3 trailer been posted before? It's really just a compilation of clips from previous episodes with a voiceover. Spoilerific if you haven't seen the end of 2.5

stevie667 05-17-2006 04:50 AM

Well, just saw the last ep, season three should definatly be good.

I'm not to sure about adamas mustache though...

guthmund 07-19-2006 11:09 AM

Here's a link to the Season 3 teaser shown during last night's premiere episode of "Eureka".

Mmmmmm....Battlestar Galactica

Willravel 07-19-2006 11:35 AM

The soundtrack made me a little sick, but the preview made me went myself. All-in-all a great night. Spoiler: So we have a full blown insurgency on New Caprica, Starbuck has a kid (with the Cylons?, from that one time?), Apollo is still kinda fat....and Olmos is still sporting the power-stache.

Mondak 07-19-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
The soundtrack made me a little sick, but the preview made me went myself. All-in-all a great night. Spoiler: So we have a full blown insurgency on New Caprica, Starbuck has a kid (with the Cylons?, from that one time?), Apollo is still kinda fat....and Olmos is still sporting the power-stache.

Well. . . That seems like evidence that not much time will have passed from the last episode to me. Dunno though. . .

Willravel 07-19-2006 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondak
Well. . . That seems like evidence that not much time will have passed from the last episode to me. Dunno though. . .

Agreed. Spoiler: We already took our year off, anyway...right? So we're done with that? At what point do we no longer need spoilers for last season? October? The DVD release?

guthmund 07-20-2006 06:50 AM

Oops. Forgot to mention this as well.

Battlestar Galactica: Resistance

Quote:

Originally Posted by relevant info
The most exciting news on this front involved Battlestar Galactica, which airs on the NBC Universal owned Sci Fi Channel. Debuting later this year will be a Web series spin-off for the acclaimed series called Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance. Lasting ten episodes, The Resistance will fill in the gap between season two and the upcoming season three

I've read these will start in early August; I hope they're enough to tide me over until Season 3.

And I say to hell with the spoilers. :)

Mondak 07-20-2006 06:07 PM

I agree. I hate the spoiler tag for a thread like this. You expect new info. That is why (west coast) I never check it on fridays.

Ch'i 08-25-2006 11:30 PM

I've never looked foward to watching a tv show/movie more than season three of Battlestar Galactica. Seeing the newest trailer this evening during Ressurection Ship Pt.2 (one of my favorite episodes) only reminded me how far away October is...

anyaslilbro 08-30-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch'i
I've never looked foward to watching a tv show/movie more than season three of Battlestar Galactica. Seeing the newest trailer this evening during Ressurection Ship Pt.2 (one of my favorite episodes) only reminded me how far away October is...


I feel the same way.

I introduced my 60ish y/o parents to the show recently by buying them the first season. I thought that they might like it, if they didn't they would just give the dvd's away. My dad called me to let me know that they were "Blown away" (his words) by the show and that they had just finished the Season 2.0 dvd's.

Now they keep calling me...asking "When is the next season gonna start?" LOL

:thumbsup:

Mondak 08-31-2006 02:28 PM

So I am looking at the publicity photos for Season 3 (I know I am a freak) and I was like:

"Wow - who is the new girl?"

Then I looked at it for a while. WTF? Not that she doesn't look good, but what is different. I mean I am a guy who can no longer pick out Ashley Simpson because of some work. Was there work done or am I just crazy?

http://galacticastation.com/Gallery/...omo%20(18).htm

http://galacticastation.com/Gallery/...omo%20(18).jpg

Willravel 08-31-2006 03:20 PM

It's so big, all I can see are her pores. When I get home I'll check it out. I really hope she didn't have any work done, though. She looked great the way she was, and getting work done really does take away from an artists performance and suggests that appearance is what you should be paying attention to. Judging by the trailer, she looks the same. I dunno.

Ah, now I can see it. The whole picture, espically Jamie and Katees faces have been digitally altered. They are both good looking kids, but photoshop has played a role in this picture.

Willravel 09-05-2006 11:10 AM

I hope everyone has enjoyed the first webisode!!! I think it's getting off to a good start, and frankly it's like getting a hit of heroin when you've been cold turkey for 8 months.

Ch'i 09-05-2006 07:47 PM

I think that's the first time I've ever heard Battlestar Galactica compared to heroin. A legitimate comparison!

Mondak 09-06-2006 05:49 AM

Yeah - it is legitimate. I watched it and think it will be heavy on the political commentary - which is fine with me. I'd love a space battle to get the ol' juices flowin' but I'll take whatever scraps they throw me to be honest.

Ch'i 09-06-2006 01:55 PM

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I'd love a space battle to get the ol' juices flowin'
Like when the Galactica & Pegasus took on those two Base Stars... :D

Mondak 09-07-2006 06:07 AM

Tell you what - say a prayer and ask the gods to forgive us.

Nice

japhyryder 10-03-2006 06:16 PM

Enjoying the Webisodes, good way to introduct new characters

DIEING for friday to come along!!!

Willravel 10-03-2006 06:24 PM

Tell me about it. I'm still considering cryogenics.

SecretMethod70 10-05-2006 01:21 AM

If you just can't wait until Friday..........the first 13 minutes have been posted on the Sci-Fi website :D Looks great!

guthmund 10-05-2006 05:37 AM

You can't see me--and maybe that's for the best--but I'm doing a little "BSG starts tomorrow" dance at my desk.

Mondak 10-05-2006 08:38 AM

Been telling the wife:

ME: I'm Busy Friday.
WIFE: All day?
ME: Yup.
WIFE: It's on at 9pm!
ME: I have to prep. . .

guthmund 10-06-2006 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondak
Been telling the wife:

ME: I'm Busy Friday.
WIFE: All day?
ME: Yup.
WIFE: It's on at 9pm!
ME: I have to prep. . .

Exactly. I mean, the beer isn't going to select itself.... :confused:

For those interested, the 'little dance' has now been designated 'office-chair jig.'

Mondak 10-06-2006 08:35 AM

Took the day off from work today.

Launch Alert Vipers!

feelgood 10-06-2006 09:21 AM

I skipped school today and am going to take tomorrow off too. Gotta watch all of Season 1 and 2 to prep...

Willravel 10-06-2006 09:50 AM

I'm giving myself the afternoon to prep as well. I can't be working until 5 if BSG is on at 6!!! Setting up the HD, surround sound, and maybe some ambrosia. I'm fracking stoked.

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Battlestar Galactica, Season 3, Episode 1: Occupation and Episode 2: Precipice
The Cylons have occupied the human settlement of New Caprica, and it's been three months since the Galactica, the Pegasus, and a handful of ships escaped into deep space. But the fight is not over. On New Caprica, a resistance has begun — and despite having only a handful of untested pilots at his command, Admiral Adama is committed to risking everything on a daring attack to rescue the people he left behind.
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

http://www.filmfodder.com/store/imag...omo_whitet.jpg

rofgilead 10-06-2006 07:25 PM

Man, the show is so dark - I was actually depressed feeling after watching the season opener. It's like watching Schindler's List.

Willravel 10-06-2006 07:31 PM

Shinler's list with robots. And fat Apollo.
Spoiler: GET YOUR FAT ASS OUT OF HERE!!
I have to say, this show is simply incapable of dissapointing me. From the first moment of Occupation to the last split second of Precipice, I was enthrealled and unable to look away. I'm going to go DL the episode off iTunes.

Just to review, the cylons:

- Number Three: D'Anna Biers
http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine..._lawless_2.jpg
- Number Five: Aaron Doral
http://content.answers.com/main/cont...hewBennett.jpg
- Number Six
http://www.thumbbandits.com/images/O...BG_Six_red.jpg
- Number Eight: Sharon "Boomer" Valerii
http://home.earthlink.net/~wk29003/s...lon-boomer.jpg
- Number Unconfirmed: Leoben Conoy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Galactica.jpg
- Numer Unconfirmed: Doctor Simon
http://home.earthlink.net/~wk29003/s...ylon-simon.jpg
- Number Unconfirmed: Brother Cavil
http://videodetective.com/photos/876/036808_23.jpg
"SAM!!!"

There are 5 cylon human models remaining unseen, Spoiler: possibly including Dr. Baltar, per the preview of the rest of the season following tonight's episode. It would make perfect sense. They both downloaded at the same time and imprinted on each other.

Fremen 10-07-2006 01:06 AM

I enjoyed it.

I kept thinking "Marlon Brando" for some reason while looking at "Fat Lee" eating on the couch.

Mondak 10-07-2006 07:25 AM

I was partial to: "See you soon"

How is a show this good? I mean I am RIGHT back in it again and can't wait until next week to see what happens next. I have to admit that I still have "Can a brotha get a space battle" ringing through my head, but that being said - the show rocks.

So either Rosalyn is a Cylon or I figure Apollo rev.1 jumped in front of her and then she laid beneath his corpse until the cylons left. I kept thinking they were going to start singing and off key version of America the Beautiful while being gunned down.

It would have been AWESOME if Starbuck killed Leoben again when the kid woke up.

Willravel 10-07-2006 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondak
So either Rosalyn is a Cylon or I figure Apollo rev.1 jumped in front of her and then she laid beneath his corpse until the cylons left. I kept thinking they were going to start singing and off key version of America the Beautiful while being gunned down.

I doubt Rosy is a toaster, and I was thinking the same thing as far as Tom defending her with his life; a final vinidication. President Rosealyn will survive, per the previews for the season.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondak
It would have been AWESOME if Starbuck killed Leoben again when the kid woke up.

I'm sure she's playing him to try and get more freedom. Pretty funny having the mother unaware that she had a kid. Kinda a flip on the "Guess what? You're a daddy!!!" line we always get on Maury.

How funny was it when Cavil started to quote the "Welcomed with open arms" quote from the Bush administration? I was rolling after that one.

rofgilead 10-07-2006 01:36 PM

I doubt that the kid is really hers. Why couldn't the robots make little robot children too as agents? It seems very coincidental that the kid hit its head at just the right time/way + also wakes up in just the right way? Also, psilons aren't supposed to be able to have children without the love element between the mother/father? (ie, Boomer and whatshisname)

So, they got a fake robot kid to make her love the psilon guy.

Willravel 10-07-2006 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rofgilead
I doubt that the kid is really hers. Why couldn't the robots make little robot children too as agents? It seems very coincidental that the kid hit its head at just the right time/way + also wakes up in just the right way? Also, psilons aren't supposed to be able to have children without the love element between the mother/father? (ie, Boomer and whatshisname)

So, they got a fake robot kid to make her love the psilon guy.

Psylon? No....Cylon.

The cylons from Battlestar Galactica are named after the Cylon of Athens, a nobleman in ancient Greece (632 BC) who tried to overthrow his father-in-law/ruler, Theagenes, who was a tyrant. Cylon and his coup were unsuccesful, and he and his brother had to flee.

It is entirely possible that that little stinker is a cylon, and that this is just another elaborate system of control. I think the love aspect of the mating was in order to bring the cylons closer to God. It seems an underlying need for the cylons to find theological relevance in their quest to be more than their parents. Boomer and Carl "Helo" Agathon were and are in love, which means their child was concieved in love, which makes their daughter a child of God (or some such neoreligous cylon nonesense).

I forgot to ask...who here posts on the Scifi.com battlestar boards? I just joined (14 seconds ago), and I'm curious. Same screen name as tfp or different?

I'll be Willravel as always.

mrklixx 10-07-2006 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondak
I kept thinking they were going to start singing and off key version of America the Beautiful while being gunned down.

Well played Mondak! :) WOLVERINES!!!


Ok, I have a question. How is Jammer not a Cylon? He was standing like two people behind the guy that nuked the "graduation ceremony" and yet he came out without a scratch?

Mondak 10-07-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
Psylon? No....Cylon.

The cylons from Battlestar Galactica are named after the Cylon of Athens, a nobleman in ancient Greece (632 BC) who tried to overthrow his father-in-law/ruler, Theagenes, who was a tyrant. Cylon and his coup were unsuccesful, and he and his brother had to flee.

You just blew my mind man. . . Nice work

mrklixx I have no idea. I thought I saw him too. I didn't think Cylon - I just figured that it was not him or something. Interesting.

Willravel 10-07-2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrklixx
Well played Mondak! :) WOLVERINES!!!


Ok, I have a question. How is Jammer not a Cylon? He was standing like two people behind the guy that nuked the "graduation ceremony" and yet he came out without a scratch?

He saw how Duck was obviously not happy to be there, and he could have easily ducked (no pun intended) out because he suspected that Duck was there to do damage. So that makes him a traitor and a coward. I'm seriously going to miss the Duck character from the webisodes. They built up this great character, knowing that he would die in the name of freedom. I'm blown away (again, no pun intended).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondak
You just blew my mind man. . . Nice work

TY. That means a lot coming from another die hard BSG fan.

feelgood 10-07-2006 07:30 PM

Kacey's gotta be a Cylon agent. Think about it, she just happens to wake up after Thrace prays to the gods that she would pull through and admits to making a mistake about the kid.

Buk 10-08-2006 08:46 AM

Just got done watching the new episodes for a second time. Adama's tactic of reintroducing the other "traitor" Sharon back to New Caprica to infiltrate the Cylon base is brilliant, if she makes it past the centurions she could easily help turn the tide of the resistance from the inside. I'm surprised the cylons revive any of the sharon models after they fall for a human, its obvious they can't seperate their emotions.

feelgood 10-08-2006 01:13 PM

Same goes for Number 6, but I think they keep those models because they're "war hero" to the Cylons.


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