07-10-2007, 11:09 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Sprint "fires" over 1,000 customers
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07-10-2007, 11:41 AM | #3 (permalink) | |
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I had at least 2 people I can think of off the top of my head who would come in weekly, complaining that his cell doesn't get "full bars" where they live or work. Did it work? Why yes, in fact they never once said they had any difficulties with the signal- no dropped calls, could always make a call, text, voicemail, and data worked just fine. Their complaint was that a;; 5 bars on the phone didn't light up, they only got 3 or 4. This would go on for months, each time they would request something for free from the store, like a case or car charger or money on their bill... for phones that worked flawlessly. The bars are fucking meaningless, compared to how the signal works. That is also not customer service. You have to keep in mind the stupidity and greed of people, and then you'll be on the right track. |
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07-10-2007, 12:05 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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I'd probably be one of those people if I hadn't given up. My experience is that Sprint does not handle grouped plans very well. Every month they make a mistake and you have to call to get your $5-10 back. In the end it just isn't worth it. (enter conspiracy theories)
My last business had a nearly identical problem with a Verizon group plan. The agents were amazingly clueless about how to calculate minutes vs. plans, or do anything but read their flowcharts. That set me shopping. Sprint was great the first couple weeks, but that's when you get their star support teams. After the 14day window is up it's back to the standard support groups. I've set up and managed call centers so I understand problem customers. I also understand sweeping system problems under the carpet. With Sprint (or any massively scaled support entities), I have no doubt some of those canceled were just people Sprint couldn't figure out how to help. Their systems just do not provide enough exits for exceptions or their own errors. Monthly 'oops' credits don't scale.
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07-10-2007, 01:30 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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When I had sprint I started texting heavily. Knowing that I would quickly go over my limit I called them up and told them i'd like to upgrade to unlimited text messages. The service rep said ok it will be done right after this call. I said ok. The rest of that month I texted a lot. At the end of the month I got a huge bill. I called them up and they wouldn't do anything about it. Apparently there system couldn't add the text messaging because I had some other feature on my plan that I canceled that month. Their solution was to just not add it that month. I called up many times and finally said I wouldn't pay them a cent on the entire bill nor any cancellation fees unless they dropped those charges. Finally they forwarded it to a manager who back date added the text plan. That was a pain. I actually had quite a few problems when I was with sprint. Finally I just switched back to Verizon who has been great (They sucked where I used to live).
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07-10-2007, 01:37 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I understand Sprint doing this - honestly, more companies should "fire" their bottom 1% of customers. You know, take a random room of 100 people and more than one of them you'd definitely choose not to do business with, because they are complete and utter idiots/assholes/mentally unbalanced.
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07-10-2007, 07:46 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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I agree with Sprint. My friend worked for a call centre that helped customers of a cell phone company. These types of frivolous callers make people with genuine concerns wait longer. I think it's great actually, maybe it'll teach a few of em a lesson. No one should HAVE to provide service to someone.
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07-10-2007, 07:47 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Location: New York
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all cellphone companies rip people off. it's what they do - like credit card companies. sure, you can come out of it w/little financial difficulty, but a lot of people are going to run into problems.
since the day i got sprint, i have been unhappy, although i don't call customer service often. if they decided to dump me, i wouldn't be too disappointed though, because then i could switch to cingular and avoid the early termination fee.
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07-10-2007, 07:50 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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No harm no foul. The customers got to keep their numbers, free last month of service and get to shop around for a new service provider.
If they were calling that much to complain, then I would think they would be happy to be dropped. |
07-10-2007, 07:58 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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I concur. It's a win/win for the customer. The don't have to deal with a carrier they hate, they don't pay the last bill, they don't pay the early termination free, they help get you set up with another carrier, and they do it on their dime.
Honestly, if somebody bitches about that, then they're truly somebody who can never be satisfied and it justifies Sprint's decision to drop them.
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07-10-2007, 08:10 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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07-10-2007, 08:18 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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I will admit my first thought was wondering how many calls I'd have to make to get out of my remaining 6mo contract.
Have to wonder how many people are getting cauliflower ear now, going for the early exit.
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07-11-2007, 03:27 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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I used to work for a Cingular call center. I hated the customers who would call in contesting their monthly statement, only be told that their bill was correct, only to call in again in hopes of getting a different rep (As if that was somehow going to change the validity of their statement).
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07-11-2007, 07:38 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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1000 out of 53 million is a very small percent. I have worked in several call centers and I can tell you, 5% of customers are not worth having. They are simply more trouble then they are worth and cost more money then you make. I have no doubt these 1000 customers got what was coming for them. The real question is this, I am sure sprint does what almost all companies do, reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Its a right rarely invoked for the simple fact of money, but why should we demonize a company for using this rarely used right?
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07-11-2007, 08:42 AM | #15 (permalink) | |
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I think it's just not enough people tossed away and also too diabolical sounding to argue. The article says that these customers have been dealing with customer service for six to twelve months. If they were really being mistreated, it seems logical enough that they would have plainly switched phone services. If they were trying to and couldn't, well they got what they wanted in the end. It's also important to keep in mind that the customers are calling and talking directly to human beings who work for Sprint. The customer service reps are not soulless, careless, entities speaking as Sprint Corporation. They're people, and while they probably don't like their job, I'm sure that at least on the first few calls they made an attempt to help. Even if they weren't so good at helping, I doubt that there was malicious intent on their part to actually harm the customers. I think it's a good move and an important reminder to people these days. Though it's important to take care of the customers and help them as much as the company can, customers do not own businesses. If a company doesn't like someone's business, they are right to terminate it if they wish. Now, whether or not it's a good financial move... that's another discussion. |
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07-11-2007, 02:19 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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When I saw this article floating around I knew there had to be something fishy about it. Turns out the people that got their service terminated were calling 30-100 times in a 6-month time frame. Furthermore, many of these customers called continually each month with the same issue that was actually a non-issue, and complained so much and for such a duration that the customer service rep ended up crediting their account for that month. Some of these customers hadn't paid a single dime to Sprint for 2 fucking years because they called so often complaining just to get credits. They were exploiting the ability to get a free phone bill every month and I'm glad they're terminated. They were basically defrauding Sprint.
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07-18-2007, 11:24 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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07-21-2007, 11:17 AM | #19 (permalink) |
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I guess I have to agree with sprint on this one. The old 80-20 rule. 80 percent of your problems will occur from 20 percent of the system. In this case, 20 percent of the customers. If they are losing money on the customers, I can't blame them. After all, if it wasn't for profit they wouldn't be in business.
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07-21-2007, 05:50 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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I'm gonna have to disagree with sprint. I had them for a year, they were the biggest pain in the ass going. And their service is just awful. They neglected to tell me that if I wasnt near a window that my phone would not work indoors. They constantly made billing errors and their customer service reps were jackasses. I'll never dedal with them again, and them making this move doesnt surprise me.
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07-22-2007, 03:35 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Location: Clarkson U.
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I guess I should clarify my point, I've never had sprint, so I can't form an opinion based on previous service. But, I feel that any business should have the option (barring contractual obligations) to do what Sprint just did.
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07-23-2007, 05:18 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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I used to have Sprint, and while I did not like their product, I agree with their decision. I currently work in an automotive warranty call center, and deal with a bunch of dumbfucks all the time that call repeatedly and whine, or try to tie me up for an indefinite amount of time to try to change an outcome. The other day I had a guy that wanted me to read word for word his entire six page legal size contract to him. Why? Because we had denied a claim he was trying to make. I had already explained in detail exactly where in the contract it showed the particular item in question was not covered. I told him I could not read him the entire contract. He sullenly asked me why not, to which I replied that I had dozens of other customers to help. You could tell he was just trying to tie me up in the hopes that I would find it easier to cover his non covered claim than deal with him. There are a ton of people like that unfortunately. It sounds like by only getting rid of 1000 of their worst customers Sprint is just getting rid of the truly horrid customers, not just the run of the mill bad customers.
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07-23-2007, 06:14 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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I would be SHOCKED if none of these customers had legitimate complaints. I'm sure many were nutjobs, but I'd bet anything that several had real issues that Sprint either could not or would not resolve.
When I had Verizon DSL, and my connection speed was worse than AOL on a 14.4 Modem, I called EVERY night to complain. I did this for months. It was the only way to get them to finally repair the line instead of telling me to reboot my modem and router. |
07-31-2007, 04:23 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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I dont agree with this at all..
In my opinion customer service as a whole has gone to the shitter. Its wiped its ass and that now soiled piece of paper is what u have to deal with when you call in with any kind of problem at all.. It doesnt matter which company or where. They are all gettin this way. It starts out with the crappy automated betty or steve or whatever, then you get the tier 1 guy that is most likely from a call center service rather then the company you are tryin to contact in the first place, they just represent them, (banks are famous for this with this 24 hour service.) Then this guy wouldnt be able to help you on most matters anyways. Tryin to get someone that can do anything at all is a nightmare and very frustrating.. The bottom line is, for the most part the customer service isnt a customer service at all. Unless you want to change your address, or find out your bill amount, your screwed. So, gettin rid of 1000+ customers just applifies the attitudes that these big corperations are taking these days, and that is "We dont need you and we dont give a shit. Put up or shut up." And well, the people that wouldnt put up with it are gettin axed. As a side note and a caboose on my train wreck of thought: Whose not to say these people arent calling customer service and then getting dropped calls? Maybe Sprints service is just that crappy. Although, i wouldnt know for sure, Ive been using Rogers lately. |
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