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Old 02-28-2004, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i made a dirty mistake, can u help me?

i am just going to be very open: my girlfriend is
somewhat willing to let me take naked photos of her.
this really is exciting to me... and over a year or so
i have built up quite an archive. for some reason, i
dont know why, i would go into chat rooms, pretending
to be a girl and send the pictures to random men, in
exchange for them sending a picture/movie back of them
getting off to it. i made sure to crop the photo so
you could only see genitals, and definitely not her
"identity" if you want to call it that... i did this a
few times and i felt really sick afterword. so
eventually i stopped.

my guilty mind started to accumulate behind me and
eventually i had to tell her to easy my mind somewhat.
what i told her was a minimal version of the truth. i
said that i had pretended to be a girl in a chatroom
just fooling around and that i had sent a picture of
her butt (where you could kind of see her privates) to
one individual. she was upset, but when she saw how
devastated i was by my mistake, she forgave me.

2 months have gone by, i've lost 20 pounds due to
depression and i havent really been able to forgive
myself. i take full responsibility for my actions and
i have prayed to everyone for forgiveness and i KNOW i
could never do this again.

how can i feel better about myself? am i a totally
deranged individual. i really feel like i love my
girlfriend more than anything in the world, and i dont
know how i could have ever done something so horrible.

it really is not who i am inside, i feel like i had this curiousity and now i wish i could go back more than anything in the world

thanks for any help/advice in advance.
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Old 02-28-2004, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Plain and simple you messed up. There is no easy way "over" it. You just have to get past it and move forward. If there is ever a temptation to do it again, destroy the pictures so you can't. Not a good situation to be in, but you have to make due.
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Old 02-28-2004, 10:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yup, u really messed up. there really is no way to correct what you did, regardless of how much she can forgive you. the only thing i can think of is just telling her the truth, you might lose her though....actually probably will.. sorry but theres just no way aruond this one.
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Old 02-28-2004, 10:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess you just have to try not to be so hard on yourself man, maybe you are just confused about what your orientation is, that isnt something you should feel guilty about. Posing as a girl and using your gf's pictures was wrong, and you know that and understand that, you acted like man and at least owned up to the principle of what you did... she was mad, thats understandable, but she forgave you.

Look, you just need some perspective, it wasnt a good thing to do, but you havent seriously hurt anyone, you havent badly damaged anything... dont let yourself get so down... the fact you did that doesnt make you deranged or sick, maybe you are just curious and you went about trying to work out your feelings the wrong way.

Dont let this drag you down and destroy what you still have with your girlfriend, she sounds like a good girl and you should try and hold on to her... most people in their lives do some stupid shit, or do things that hurt someone they love when they dont think, we all make mistakes, you just have to learn from them, accept them, and try to be stronger from them... all anyone can ask is for us to always be better than the worst things that happen to us... or at least sometimes thats the best we can do.
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Old 02-28-2004, 11:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: i made a dirty mistake, can u help me?

Quote:
Originally posted by ustam67
2 months have gone by, i've lost 20 pounds due to
depression and i havent really been able to forgive
myself. i really feel like i love my
girlfriend more than anything in the world, and i dont
know how i could have ever done something so horrible.
wow, you're being incredibly hard on yourself. my first reaction to your dilemma is, "gee, that doesn't sound so bad". ultimately i realized that yes, if you were posting pics of your nude gf, you should have had her permission/participation, however, if she is willing to have nude photos taken by you, she may have some exhibitionist tendencies that she's not fully embracing.

have you considered that perhaps it could be a mutual turn-on for the two of you to post her photos and peruse the responses together? it's interesting that you were interested in other men's reactions to her pics ... that's a whole other thread topic. but if you're focused on having this woman in your life, you need to level with her about what your activities are/were.

although you mentioned that she was upset at your initial admission, it's possible that she was reacting the way a girl is "supposed" to react to something like that. i suspect that beneath her "appropriate" reaction she may be a bit flattered that you thought enough of the photos to share them with the world ... regardless of who the respondants were. if she is in love with you, she will need to always be able to trust you. you owe her the truth; for better or worse, as they say.

as a gf with an SO who is open to alternative approaches to sex and intimacy, i believe in being open to pushing your boundaries. although there is a substatial risk involved, this may be an opportunity for greater intimacy between the two of you. good luck.
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Old 02-28-2004, 01:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Welcome to being human.

Fortunately, being human isn't about being perfect.

We've all made embarassing mistakes that we wish we could take back, but we can't.

So live and learn and move on.
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Old 02-28-2004, 01:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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All in all... pain goes away over time. Unless you keep hurting yourself which it appears you are doing. Let it go. She has forgiven you for your mistakes. There is no more forgivness left for you. It is now up to you to grow past this mess and become a better person for it. There is no where else for you to go but up now... unless you have a shovel. And I don't think that's a good idea.
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Old 02-28-2004, 01:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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In my ever so humble opinion, the reason you still feel so horrible is because you haven't taken full responcibility for your actions. Earn up fully to what you did, come clean with her. It may end up that she dumps you, may not. No matter what happens, your conscience will be clean and she won't be lied to (by omission) anymore.
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Old 02-28-2004, 02:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You messed up big time, man..... I don't know what to tell you.

You're screwed.
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Old 02-28-2004, 03:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hey, we all make unwise choices from time to time. And the only way to get over this is to remember that. We live to experience who we are by doing things that define who we aren't. What we call "mistakes". There is a reason they are called mistakes- "mis"-"takes". Just like in a movie, you get another shot, no big deal.
Even if it seems like a big deal, there's always tomorrow and there's always another chance.
If she forgave you, you should be able to forgive yourself.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
And being open and honest was the wise decision on your part, even if it was hard and it hurt. If you aren't 100% completely open & honest with your SO, you are carrying a weight bigger than you can handle and it will just keep growing and effect your relationship, possibly causing it to deteriorate. Keep that in mind. I have been in your position myself, but once I let go of it all and told the truth, it was painful, but I was forgiven and I felt a whole lot better than I did holding it in.

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Old 02-28-2004, 03:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i have to ask if you are still feeling guilt about the pictures of her, or are you feeling guilty about getting off on other guys masturbating to a picture of your girlfriend. I think that there might be some underlying issues here.
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Old 02-28-2004, 05:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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She is lost to you already....you cannot continue as things are, and she will likely leave you upon knowing the truth that you must tell her. Accept the loss, admit the truth, move on, in that order.
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Old 02-29-2004, 09:11 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Why don't you try throwing away the pics, so you don't have any temptation.
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Old 02-29-2004, 09:37 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I dont see any reason why he should tell her more than he already has - well, there is one reason, pride - and pride is a very selfish thing. Why should he hurt her all over again with fresh stories about it? He has told her the basic facts, she was mad, she forgave him - its over, there is nothing to be gained from bringing it up again at all.
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Old 02-29-2004, 11:09 AM   #15 (permalink)
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well obviously this is eating at him and if he doesnt do *something* beyond what was said its going to mess him up moreso than before. if you cant live with yourself man, you cant expect her to either. not to be mean or anything, just a bit on the brutally honest side.
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Old 03-01-2004, 03:16 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You're still feeling guilty because you still haven't owned up to the entire truth. Not only did you fuck up, but you lied about the fuck-up, so now you've got two things bouncing in your head.

Either get over it, or you may have to have another conversation with her- and this time it'll likely mean your relationship. Let it be a lesson for the future.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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first off, send them to me,
i'll tell you that your gf is hot
and that should make you feel better :-)

seriously you should feel lucky that she forgave you because she must have strong feelign for you
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Old 03-01-2004, 02:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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first off, send them to me,
i'll tell you that your gf is hot
and that should make you feel better :-)

seriously you should feel lucky that she forgave you because she must have strong feelign for you

Either that, or she may have forgiven you due to a deeper interest. Anything is possible, and in being human, you will make mistakes. She lets you take pictures of her, now that may be something that she considers 100% personal, as a gift to you, but she may also want to take it further.

Instead of torturing yourself over what you have done, be honest, tell her up front, but not in a defeatist way. It's all about your attitude, if you can turn this around, you may end up feeling better about yourself, and in the same motion, opening new doors in your relationship with her. It's worth a shot.

Good luck, and try to find things to make you happy. For no matter what you decide, if "you let yourself be low" then you may make things worse, just because you're depressed. You are living your life, and with free will, you will make mistakes, some worse then others. Just get over it, shit happens, you're learning.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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You messed up big time. Only time will tell if your own heart will let you live it down.
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Old 03-01-2004, 06:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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So, were you getting off on the fact that other guys were getting off on the pictures of your girlfriend?

Were you more interested in seeing random men get off?

All in all, this really isn't that bad. ...why you would tell your g/f is beyond me.

I think that this is just a symptom of a bigger deal. You're being WAY to hard on yourself.

Oh, and why don't you use wordwrap when you post?

Self esteem issues?

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Old 03-02-2004, 03:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok.

First of all, get rid of the pictures you've taken. You can always take more in the foreseeable future, but I'd get rid of them for now. I don't see how you can look at them anyway - for the time being - without being reminded of what you did.

#2. Don't even think about confessing it all to her. That's "girl logic" and it doesn't work in this situation. You didn't cheat on her, you did betray a trust though and lied, which as and in itself comes close enough. The only reason you would tell her all of it now would be to make yourself feel better. It would not be for her or for the relationship. Don't even kid yourself about her having the right to know. She knows all she needs to know already.

She forgave you. Get rid of the pictures, go for a walk with her, get a dog, something. Start living again and this will be but a mistake you made, got past and hopefully learned from.
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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if you can't accept the possibility of you making yourself be with a woman because of some social constraints placed about normality

you're beaten before youve started and you'll never ever be able to see it

if it ilicited that much of a reaction, to feel that bad, to do it in the first place, there's a much deeper issue
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Old 03-02-2004, 07:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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While you did break the bond of trust between you and her, I don't think you're "messed up." It sounds like there is a part of you that you need to explore still and are possibly holding back, but something (my guess: religion) is holding you back. It sounds like you are harboring unnecessary feelings of guilt and shame about something that you want to be, desire, or want to try. As to what it is that needs exploring is out of my range of insight, but some possibilities are exhibitionism, crossdressing, bisexuality (which could be acted out in fantasies with or without your girlfriend.. and it doesn't have to involve sex with another man to "explore"). You have to ask yourself what part of that scenario (using a false identity to obtain pictures of heterosexual men, etc.) was what you were looking for/experimenting with? Was it watching the men? Was it the anonymity? Was it pretending to be a woman? Etc. If it is the aspect that involves men, you may want to experiment by reading/watching bi- or homosexual porn or something that experiments with the fantasy, but doesn't interfere with your relationship.

Instead of fessing up the full details from the past, how about approaching your girlfriend and asking her to help you/participate with exploring your sexuality. In doing this, it is a way of opening up the intimacy once again. If she is not okay with it or makes you feel worse, you may need to find someone who is more open-minded and is willing to love you for who you might find out is the real you (if that makes sense).
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Old 03-03-2004, 01:36 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree with most. You are being pretty hard on yourself for a pretty minor fuck-up. I don't agree with only telling part of the story, but you chose to keep certain parts out to save the relationship. I don't know if that was really wise or really stupid. You are the one still reeling from the incident so I am sure you know the impact it has had on you.

Get over it. Move on. Don't do it again. And if you do fuck up again, own up to it and don't be such a chump.
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