soma

Sex is so bad for me I much prefer just masturbating. I lost my virginity this past summer and have been with 2 girls in my life. Both girls it's been the same. I just can't keep it up. When I'm alone, I can keep my dick as hard as a rock, but when I'm with a girl, it just doesn't work out. I think it has a lot to do with how much porn I watch and how much I masturbate. But with the girl I'm with, I've held off masturbating for days, and then when I'm with her, my dick just doesn't cooperate.

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Manic_Skafe

Well what exactly is the problem? Premature ejaculation or impotence?

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Halx

Sounds like you're nervous as hell. Drink 2 beers. Regular ones, not light.

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soma

Impotence. But I know my penis is capable. I'm in good health and in my early 20s.

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Cynthetiq

just relax.

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Charlatan

maybe you don't like girls?

maybe you need Viagra?

...it's probably just nerves. I vote for the beers.

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Manic_Skafe

A bit more background information may help.

If it's nerves then be sure to take things slow and start with a nice long session of foreplay to break the tension and extend the experience.

But what's between your legs shouldn't be the only weapon in your arsenal - if you feel you can't perform then why not exercise your oral skills? Then once the tension breaks you can weed whack away.

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little_tippler

performance anxiety and porn expectations I'm guessing. Give it time and find a nice girl who is patient. Things can and will improve, just keep trying...no harm in that

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Bear Cub

Is she ugly? Serious question.

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curiousbear

1. Do it in dark until you really get used to this girl.
2. Do it even if it is semi hard, it gets harder once you are inside.
3. Smell her down, that may help.
4. Try playing PORN on TV or a slide show on LCD when you are doing (if the girl is ok about it)
5. If you try same position, same style everytime fix that
6. If you always come sooner than her and if that is what bothering you, masturbate her to orgasm even before intercourse

hope it helps

soma

Foreplay goes well, I'm hard, I get the condom on, no problem, then I go inside of her and after a few thrusts, I go limp.
I think I'm going to give up porn and just keep at it. As long as she doesn't bail on me.

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FlatLand Flyer

Can you feel anything with the condom on?

I used condoms at the beginning and it was hard to bust a nut. I was 16 at the time and had no problems staying hard, but damn I could barely feel anything that makes a vagina the glorious creation that it is. She was on the pill, so we ditched condoms. Problem solved.

If you have to used condoms, get some of the super thin types. I have heard good things about them, but I have never used them.

Jozrael

I second the no condom advice (so long as she's on the pill). I tried it with a condom once. Couldn't feel a damned thing. I was in there for like 45 minutes. Problem solved otherwise.

snowy

Are you on any medications?

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Willravel

Have you considered baby steps? Go down on her and then maybe get a HJ. Do it again, and then get a BJ. You get used to stimulating her, learn her ins and outs, and you also get the benefit of external stimulation that doesn't quite match the pressure of a vagina. Win win.

Anormalguy

If you're going flacid after just a few thrusts, something tells me the condom isn't the problem. Can she keep you hard with oral stimulation?

I admit to being perplexed. When I first started premature ejaculation was a problem, but that went away with experience.

Edit--Plus one for Will's advice.

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little_tippler

I thought the rest of the points were good but what does this one mean?

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Vigilante

It means we love the way a girl smells down there (and nearly anywhere)

I run my nose from her neck all the way down, and I love every second of it.

OP, Try thinking of something naughty/nasty that gets you off, then see if that helps. If need be, do that naughty/nasty act, she might like it and you already know you will

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Coolyo

find yourself a fetish.

Aladdin Sane

At the risk of sounding insanely conservative, my suggestion is that you establish a trusting, open, and honest relationship with the girl before you attempt coitus. I'm just saying.

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Jinn

I have the same symptoms, soma. I'm in a 'trusting, open and honest relationship' of almost 4 years, as above, and I have tried abstaining from masturbation and porn to no avail.

I blame the condom entirely. If you ever get a chance to go at it without a condom, you'll see. It's nearly impossible for me to stay hard for the entire duration with a condom on, and I can feel almost nothing. I wish I could help, but I feel the same way sometimes. The only real 'solution' is to find another type of birth control.

As for the 'super thin' condoms mentioned above, please do tell.

EDIT: Also, try not to take it as a hit against your "manliness". It gets really depressing when you start to feel that its a failure on your part to be a "man." Value your manliness in other ways too, and it'll be a lot easier to deal with.

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thespian86

I would not advise putting on porn, lest you have an addiction to it; which seems kind of plausible.

I don't know man. Maybe you are gay? Maybe she's ugly? Maybe you're depressed? Maybe you have an undiscovered fetish?

Give us more.

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Manic_Skafe

If they're still in production, I remember the Avanti line by Durex as being especially thin and allowing for the most sensation.

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Xerxys

I second this, once I realized I love feet my whole world came into perspective.

Dude, here's the thing, your not bad at sex, just new, experience will make it better and also, your not addicted to porn, just jacking off, if you must, do it without porn.

Don't watch porn for the next couple of days, I'm not saying stop now, I'm saying desensitize yourself, schedule when your gonna do it, and make it in between short times, if you missed it, like the bus, it's already gone, you'll have to wait till next time. I swear to god this worked for me.

And the condoms, they're also very crappy!!

Daniel_

Durex Avanti have been discontinued, and replaced with Durex Avanti Utima which are the same thinckness as any other regular latex condom (about 0.065mm).

A normal "thin/fine/sheer/sensitive" condom i made from a finer grade of latex and is around 0.050mm thick - there are several brands available.

The thinnest condoms in general use are polyurethane ones sold in the US as Trojan Supra - they cost about 5 times as much as latex condoms, but are about 0.025mm thick.

They don't stretch like latex though so feel very different.

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laudanum

I've been dealing with the same issue for years and it seems to be getting better.
Here is what has been helping me.

The first thing you should do stop masturbating. Or rather stop using what sex columnist Dan Savage calls the "Vulcan Death Grip" when you masturbate. It decreases your sensitivity and makes it harder to come. Try to hold off as long as you can until you can be with actual woman. When you do masturbate use a Fleshlight . Don't get the tightest one. Try to set it up so that you don't user your hands. I personally use it by sticking it between my mattress and box spring.

The point is to disassociate your orgasm with what you were doing for the last however many years you've been doing it. I personally had spent most of my life jerking off in bed on my back using my hand. As soon as I started having sex, I would lose my erection.

Using a Fleshlight in the way I described, puts me on my knees and a close normal sexual thrusting position. It also gets your hands disassociated with your orgasm.

As for condoms, I personally like the Crown's Skinless Skin Condoms. Ultrathin and very strong as well as transmit heat very very well. Luckily I live in a city where there are a lot of sex shops that have it available. After you get used to a "look ma no hands" orgasm with your fleshlight, you can try it out with the condom.


But most of all....From the movie Bull Duram: STOP THINKING! It can only hurt the team.

Again, I can only speak from my experience, but I'm sure others will agree, that when you do anything and are not thinking things work the best. Its like driving manual transmission. If I think about shifting smoothly I fuck up. If I don't think about shifting at all, my driving is smooth. But don't even think "wow that feels good" Moan, hum, grunt anything but words. I think that once you get that part of your brain engaged you start wandering off like JD in Scrubs and stop living in the moment.

Hope this helps

Laudanum

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Laudanum, I hope you stick around and post some more. I'm glad you did here, and I think your post was enlightening, particularly your analogy to the manual transmission. I just recently (2 weeks) got a new manual trans car, and it's taking a while to get used to. It certainly does suffer when I think about it.

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laudanum

Thanks Jinn. If there's one thing that I can share, its terrible sex!

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lotsofmagnets

the whole thing?

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laudanum

Yes, the whole thing. It basically plastic case around a faux flesh vagina. If you don't use the plastic case, there no support to hold it in place.

Just don't forget to remove the top cap so you can stick your penis in it

ASU2003

I'm not sure this will help, but there are some basic health questions to get out of the way. It is a pretty simple biological hydraulic system.

1. Do you exercise? Start doing more aerobic, long duration stuff.
2. Do some kegal exercises two or three times a day. Maybe when ever you get in your car.
3. Anti-depressants? SSRIs can make it tough to orgasm or stay hard, but it usually goes soft after 3-5 minutes.
4. Have you checked your blood pressure? It's more difficult for me to stay hard when my blood pressure goes up above 140/90.
5. What are you thinking about during sex? ("Don't go soft, don't go soft, don't go soft"???) Are you worried that it will happen the next time? Focus on how good it feels.
6. Are you circumcised? Use medical tape to cover the glans during the day and nights you aren't with her. It will increase sensitivity.
7. Do you masturbate fast or slow? Is it a similar speed to sex?

soma

To answer some questions

I'm not on any meds

I don't exercise regularly

I'm uncircumcised

I'm not depressed

I have the trojan brand thinnest condom (with the first girl I was with, switching to the thin condoms helped, but now, it's just no good)

The girl isn't super hot, but she's not terrible either (she hasn't been with any guys with this problem, and it seems like she's been with a fair amount)

Thanks for all the advice so far.

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ASU2003

Have you ever masturbated or gotten a handjob while wearing a condom?

What about question #5? Do you think it might be a mental issue?

soma

Yeah, I actually tried masturbating with a condom last week. I was able to get off without any problems in front of the computer, so I know I'm physically capable of getting off with a condom on.

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mixedsubstance

I've heard some guys being allergic to latex, or spermicidal condoms, but most likely it's a combination of using a condom and nerves or even something subconscious. It also may have to do with being circumcised. Just ask your Dr.

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SERPENT7

It actually sounds to me like there is some anxiety.
just relax.
Don't place any pressure on yourself, and try talking to her about...your feelings.
What is she like? Is she open to you? Emotionally?
I personally can say with some experience that as a 'sensitive' type, if I am not with a like-minded girl that is just as 'into it' as I am, it becomes a drag, if you see what i mean.
Also, don't look for your fetish. It will find you eventually.

Stare At The Sun

Masturbate less.
Do you have any fetishes that prevent you from enjoying *normal* sex?
What areas are you not lacking in, sexually?

ItWasMe

Since you have no problems using your hands with a condom, probably you aren't using one that is too tight and cutting off circulation. Or maybe it is too tight, but you can still feel with your hands. I don't have a penis, but I am going to guess that being inside a woman provides less physical pressure than hands do.

See if you do okay with her using her hands, with and without a condom. If you have the same reaction with her hands as you do inside her, maybe it's nerves? Trust issues?

If you don't have any problems with her using her hands ... maybe concerns of pregnancy are putting a stop on things? Are you afraid of the dark? (don't laugh, I'm serious ... I knew someone whose SO had this fear of sending his privates into a place he couldn't see, but using hands worked.)

BTW if you worry alot about losing it, you can worry yourself into losing it.

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FlatLand Flyer

Does the idea of her having been with a fair amount of other men bother you?

Do you think about that as you start to fuck?

Are you thinking about how your performance will rank against her other experiences?

These thoughts certainly can kill a hard-on.

Halx

I maintain that this is a nerve issue and can be cured with a low-moderate amount of alcohol. Or just getting over it.

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