11-30-2004, 08:40 AM | #41 (permalink) |
will always be an Alyson Hanniganite
Location: In the dust of the archives
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WoW! This is so old, everything died. For those that may be interested in picking back up, I recreated the region of TFProject Organization.
The Republic of Cantcatchabreakistan Location: TFProject Organization The Republic of Cantcatchabreakistan is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, remarkable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million love a good election, and the government gives them plenty of them. Universities tend to be full of students debating the merits of various civil and political rights, while businesses are tightly regulated and the wealthy viewed with suspicion. The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked, socially-minded morass -- juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Social Welfare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 42%, but much higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Furniture Restoration. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low. Cantcatchabreakistan's national animal is the college babe gone wild, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the shiny stone.
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11-30-2004, 09:31 AM | #42 (permalink) |
Pissing in the cornflakes
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The Republic of Ugmo
"In the leader we trust!" UN Category: Iron Fist Consumerists Civil Rights:Some Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Few Location: the South Pacific The Republic of Ugmo is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, remarkable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 5 million are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources." The large government is effectively ruled by the Department of Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 21%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Gambling. Crime is a problem. Ugmo's national animal is the flying fish, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the togo.
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11-30-2004, 10:06 AM | #43 (permalink) |
Cracking the Whip
Location: Sexymama's arms...
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wow, blast from the past.
I had the Republic of East Honalee. Can't even recall the specifics.
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11-30-2004, 10:23 AM | #44 (permalink) |
Pickles
Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)
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The Free Land of Avalonian Civility
"Live Free or Die!" UN Category: Civil Rights Lovefest Civil Rights: Superb Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Excellent Location: TFProject Organization The Free Land of Avalonian Civility is a large, devout nation, remarkable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 20 million hold their civil and political rights very dear, although the wealthy and those in business tend to be viewed with suspicion. The large government juggles the competing demands of Social Welfare, Education, and Religion & Spirituality. The average income tax rate is 24%. A robust private sector is led by the Information Technology industry, followed by Retail and Soda Sales. Euthanasia is legal, all tariffs have been abolished, scientists regularly clone human beings for research purposes, and citizens select which government department gets their income tax Gold Stamps each year. Crime is relatively low, thanks to a well-funded police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Avalonian Civility's national animal is the Stoned Otter and its currency is the Gold Stamp. Avalonian Civility is ranked 2nd in the region and 18,788th in the world for Largest Soda Pop Sector. Edit: Updatedibleness
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11-30-2004, 03:16 PM | #45 (permalink) |
Crazy
Location: Fünland
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I used to fiddle around with nationstates, my country (Outer Uiguria) being first a democratic socialism and after that stuck to Scandinavian Liberal Paradise (quite fitting considering my own homeland).
By the way, the book by Max Barry (Jennifer Government) is a decent novel, really. Some new visions to a possible dystopia.
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11-30-2004, 03:23 PM | #46 (permalink) |
Getting Medieval on your ass
Location: 13th century Europe
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Coppertopia
The Rogue Nation of Coppertopia
"Our guns are bigger than your guns" UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship Civil Rights: Rare Economy: Imploded Political Freedoms: Outlawed The Rogue Nation of Coppertopia is a tiny, safe nation, renowned for its strong anti-business politics. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 5 million are ruled without fear or favor by a psychotic dictator, who outlaws just about everything and refers to the populace as "my little playthings." It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, moralistic, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Social Welfare, Law & Order, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 60%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Arms Manufacturing. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Coppertopia's national animal is the tektite, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the rupee. Last edited by Coppertop; 11-30-2004 at 03:40 PM.. Reason: stuff |
11-30-2004, 05:03 PM | #47 (permalink) |
Baltimoron
Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD
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The Confederacy of Haugstad
"Always Forward" UN Category: Corporate Bordello Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Thriving Political Freedoms: Superb Location: TFProject Organization The Confederacy of Haugstad is a tiny, economically powerful nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million are effectively ruled by a group of massive corporations, who run for political office and provide their well-off citizens with world-class goods and services. Their poorer citizens, however, are mostly starving to death while being urged to go out and get real jobs. The populace has reasonably extensive civil rights, although these are mostly aimed at allowing them to buy whatever they like. The tiny, corrupt, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Religion & Spirituality, and Commerce. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 1%. A healthy private sector is led by the Information Technology industry, followed by Woodchip Exports and Basket Weaving. Crime is a major problem. Haugstad's national animal is the turtle and its currency is the minatoku.
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11-30-2004, 05:52 PM | #48 (permalink) |
Somnabulist
Location: corner of No and Where
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The Democratic Republic of Nuevo Marrow:
Civil Rights: Superb Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Excellent Left-leaning College State The Democratic Republic of Nuevo Marrow is a tiny, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its complete lack of prisons. Its hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy extensive civil freedoms, particularly in social issues, while business tends to be more regulated. The medium-sized, liberal government devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Defence receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 14%. A small but healthy private sector is dominated by the Trout Farming industry. Crime is moderate, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Nuevo Marrow's national animal is the hedgehog and its currency is the simoleans. You know, it is amazing how accurately this game pegged me. My state really is like my college: small, wealthy, super-liberal, smart, plenty of drugs and no law enforcement. This is where I want to live. Well, except I don't like seafood.
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11-30-2004, 07:03 PM | #49 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: Boston, MAss., USA
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http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/...on=fud_monkeys
Location: the South Pacific The Grand Duchy of FUD Monkeys is a tiny, pleasant nation, notable for its burgeoning duck-billed platapus population. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often. The medium-sized government juggles the competing demands of Social Welfare, Education, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 12%. A small but healthy private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry. Crime is a problem, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. FUD Monkeys's national animal is the duck-billed platapus and its currency is the overvalued buckaroo.
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12-02-2004, 07:04 PM | #50 (permalink) |
Lennonite Priest
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
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The Republic of The Celtic Dominion
"Celtic Dominion States Forever United Forever Striving" UN Category: Liberal Democratic Socialists Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Developing Political Freedoms: Superb Location: TFProject Organization The Republic of The Celtic Dominion is a small, environmentally stunning nation, remarkable for its devotion to social welfare. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 7 million love a good election, and the government gives them plenty of them. Universities tend to be full of students debating the merits of various civil and political rights, while businesses are tightly regulated and the wealthy viewed with suspicion. The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked, socially-minded morass -- concentrates mainly on Social Welfare, although Religion & Spirituality and Healthcare are secondary priorities. The average income tax rate is 39%, but much higher for the wealthy. A substantial private sector is led by the Information Technology industry, followed by Arms Manufacturing and Beef-Based Agriculture. Voting is voluntary, surveillance cameras are banned, and marijuana is legal in the privacy of your own home. Crime is well under control. The Celtic Dominion's national animal is the collie, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the celtic dollar. The Celtic Dominion is ranked 4th in the region and 36,471st in the world for Most Rebellious Youth. From the brooks to the sea We are Celtic, united and free We celebrate our country And cherish liberty We support fraternity We live as we choose our liberties we shall defend and never lose We are Celtic united and freeeeeeeee
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12-02-2004, 07:49 PM | #51 (permalink) |
Junkie
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The Most Serene Republic of GastoniaVI
"Whatever liberties granted will be for your own good." UN Category: Iron Fist Consumerists Civil Rights: Rare Economy: Reasonable Political Freedoms: Few Location: the Pacific The Most Serene Republic of GastoniaVI is a tiny, devout nation, remarkable for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 5 million are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources." The large, moralistic government is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Religion & Spirituality and Defence are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 27%, but much higher for the wealthy. A very small private sector is dominated by the Pizza Delivery industry. Crime is moderate. GastoniaVI's national animal is the veal pattie, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the dollar. ---- I used to have a country about 2 years ago, I was even in the UN. But I forgot the site, cool to see it again. |
12-03-2004, 02:05 AM | #52 (permalink) |
Upright
Location: Hotel Yorba
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Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Imploded Political Freedoms: Excellent The Free Land of United Pho is a very large, safe nation, notable for its strong anti-business politics. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 179 million are free to do what they want with their own bodies, and vote for whoever they like in elections; if they go into business, however, they are regulated to within an inch of their lives. It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Education, the Environment, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 100%. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out. Graffiti graces every city's streets, people are now classified as male, female, or genderqueer, prime real estate is devoted to wind farms and solar energy generators, and the arms industry has been shut down in a surge of pacifism. Crime is well under control. United Pho's national animal is the armadillo, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the peso. Nationstates is great fun |
12-03-2004, 04:43 AM | #53 (permalink) |
Patron
Administrator
Location: Tôkyô, Japan
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The Republic of Garantulan
"It always takes two" UN Category: Psychotic Dictatorship Civil Rights: Few Economy: Weak Political Freedoms: Outlawed Location: TFProject Organization The Republic of Garantulan is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, cynical population of 5 million are ruled without fear or favor by a psychotic dictator, who outlaws just about everything and refers to the populace as "my little playthings." The government -- a sprawling, bureaucracy-choked, corrupt, socially-minded morass -- juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 43%, but much higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Information Technology. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is well under control, despite the fact that it is difficult to make it through a day without breaking one of the country's many laws. Garantulan's national animal is the pig, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the kruunu.
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12-04-2004, 02:32 PM | #54 (permalink) |
Insane
Location: California
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The Holy Republic of Molybdenopolis
"Cruisin' Mos Espa in my DeLorean" UN Category: Capitalist Paradise Civil Rights: Good Economy: Very Strong Political Freedoms: Very Good Location: TFProject Organization The Holy Republic of Molybdenopolis is a small, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-working, intelligent population of 9 million are either ruled by a small, efficient government or a conglomerate of multinational corporations; it's difficult to tell which. The medium-sized, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Social Welfare, Education, and Religion & Spirituality. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 12%. A small but healthy private sector is dominated by the Uranium Mining industry. Citizens select which government department gets their income tax kroutons each year, the alarmingly racist TV show 'Bigtopians Say the Darndest Things' is a hit, the mining industry is making inroads into environmentally sensitive areas, and voting is voluntary. Crime is moderate, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Molybdenopolis's national animal is the squirrel, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the krouton. Molybdenopolis is ranked 12th in the region and 112,934th in the world for Most Income Equality.
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12-06-2004, 09:56 AM | #55 (permalink) |
Junkie
Location: Louisville, KY
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The Most Serene Republic of Nefiria
"In Man We Trust" UN Category: New York Times Democracy Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Strong Political Freedoms: Superb Location: The North Pacific The Most Serene Republic of Nefiria is a tiny, socially progressive nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct. The small government devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 9%. A robust private sector is led by the Furniture Restoration, Automobile Manufacturing, and Retail industries. Crime is a problem, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Nefiria's national animal is the human and its currency is the euro dollar.
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12-06-2004, 11:44 AM | #56 (permalink) |
Junkie
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The Republic of Russiskstan
"You know, for kids." UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Reasonable Political Freedoms: Excellent Location: TFProject Organization The Republic of Russiskstan is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its burgeoning chupacabra population. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often. The large government juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Social Welfare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 25%, but much higher for the wealthy. A small but healthy private sector is led by the Gambling industry, followed by Retail and Cheese Exports. Crime is moderate, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Russiskstan's national animal is the chupacabra, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the dolma. Last edited by FngKestrel; 12-07-2004 at 02:11 PM.. Reason: Updated location |
12-07-2004, 02:01 PM | #57 (permalink) |
Wehret Den Anfängen!
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The Dominion of Free Waterloo
"The garden is beautiful" UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Good Economy: Reasonable Political Freedoms: Very Good Location: Canada The Dominion of Free Waterloo is a small, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 9 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often. The large government juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Social Welfare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 28%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Retail, Pizza Delivery, and Soda Sales industries. Voting is voluntary. Crime is moderate, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Free Waterloo's national animal is the Dolphin, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Dubloon.
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12-07-2004, 05:24 PM | #58 (permalink) |
Pissing in the cornflakes
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I just instituted mandatory nudity.
That should shake things up a bit.
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12-09-2004, 11:33 PM | #59 (permalink) | |
Pissing in the cornflakes
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12-10-2004, 03:40 AM | #60 (permalink) |
follower of the child's crusade?
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UN Category: Democratic Socialists
Civil Rights: Excellent Economy: Basket Case Political Freedoms: Very Good Location: the South Pacific The Republic of Tabula Rasa III is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its strong anti-business politics. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt. It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Religion & Spirituality and Defence receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 66%, and even higher for the wealthy. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out. Crime is totally unknown. Tabula Rasa III's national animal is the revolutionary eagle, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the workers currency unit. bah! clearly this program is written by capitalist running dogs! By economny is not a basket case!!!!! The concept of "income tax" is meaningless, the people ARE the government, how can people take from themselves??? We are not taxing, we are merely managing the distribution of goods so that they favour the general good, and people are able to fulfill their true and communal interests, rather than petty selfish ones.
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"Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas Last edited by Strange Famous; 12-10-2004 at 03:43 AM.. |
12-10-2004, 06:08 AM | #61 (permalink) |
Still fighting it.
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The Republic of Oxfonia
"Moribund, Morose, Morbid" UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Good Political Freedoms: Some Location: The North Pacific The Republic of Oxfonia is a tiny, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its compassionate, hard-working population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often. The large government devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Commerce receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 26%. A large private sector is led by the Furniture Restoration industry, followed by Information Technology and Book Publishing. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is well under control. Oxfonia's national animal is the ocelot and its currency is the frankfurter. |
12-10-2004, 07:22 AM | #62 (permalink) |
will always be an Alyson Hanniganite
Location: In the dust of the archives
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Had to share this issue. When I set up The Republic of Cantcatchabreakistan, I made the national animal the college babe gone wild. Which prompted the following, rather humerous, issue: In a bid to provide a new revenue stream for Cantcatchabreakistan's Beef-Based Agriculture industry, it has been suggested that college babe gone wilds could be added to the menu. 1. "The fact is, the college babe gone wild population is out of control," says Beef-Based Agriculture spokesperson Klaus Dredd. "We have to do something about them anyway, so why not market them as tasty snacks? We could have college babe gone wild kebabs, college babe gone wild pies, college babe gone wild-on-a-sticks--the possibilities are endless! Let's not pass up this golden opportunity to provide a feast, if you will, for our economy." 2. "I agree that something needs to be done about college babe gone wild over-population," says random passer-by Gregory Li, "but eating them? That's kind of gross. Let's just shoot the ones we have to and shovel their bodies into ditches like we've always done?" 3. "I am shocked and appalled!" declared SPCA President Akira Silk. "If anyone needs to be culled, it's us humans. The college babe gone wilds were here first, remember? We need to take this as a sign to get our industry--agriculture in particular--to back off. The college babe gone wild is part of what makes Cantcatchabreakistan a great nation!" The college babe gone wild is part of what makes Cantcatchabreakistan a great nation!" Well...Hell, yeah!!
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"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt. |
12-10-2004, 07:51 AM | #63 (permalink) |
undead
Location: Duisburg, Germany
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my third nation:
The Republic of Brogtond "Argh! " UN Category: Left-wing Utopia Civil Rights: Excessive Economy: Fragile Political Freedoms: World Benchmark Location: TFProject Organization The Republic of Brogtond is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its devotion to social welfare. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million are free to do what they want with their own bodies, and vote for whoever they like in elections; if they go into business, however, they are regulated to within an inch of their lives. It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, liberal, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 54%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Beef-Based Agriculture. Crime is well under control. Brogtond's national animal is the damn big bear, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Taler.
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