tros22

Is it me, or is it everytime I find a kick ass rock, metal, alternative, christain band. Much Music has to take their songs and fucken slaughter them to high hell! Every band I come across now adays I keep very secret, and only tell me good friend for fear that much, or mtv agents is sneaker around my where abouts looking for that next band to put on their god aweful program. I mean, like does anyone else feel like they don;t want to listen to metallica simply because they are now becoming a trend? Please someone tell me I am not the only out there.....please.

__________________
Eh

bleeckerx

fuckin right, thats why i only listen to music thats in the ' under ground' or so to speak

__________________
no heros here

tros22

It's good to hear somebody isn't falling for that other crap hey?

__________________
Eh

ShadowWraith

What do you mean by slaughter them to high hell? You mean going on the show to try and promote their music and get more listeners? If you like their music then thats all that matters, not if they go on mtv or much or whatever. I mean does it suddenly become bad just because more then you and your friends know about them? Its sad that now its a trend in itself for people only to like music when its "underground" and discard it as soon as it becomes popular. Artists work so that their music can be heard, not so that people like you can stifle it for the selfish purpose of being able to say you like a band no ones ever heard of.

tros22

I premote band by wearing their clothing and sharing them to my friends. If people do that everywhere, it would a lot better since much music turns bands from their religion. For example, Evanescence were (at the begining) known as a Christian Band. But, soon as their were promoted into Much, and MTV, their veiws changed. Why? For money, tell me thats not wrong.

__________________
Eh

tros22

p.s.
but I expreciate your opinion, you do have some good points.

__________________
Eh

tros22

Also, I wouldn't call their advertisement a premoting for the band, it turns off listeners hearing their songs over and over again. True they can turn off their tvs, their radios, but can you spare ear plugs when your bud comes down main street blasting one of their over played singles?

__________________
Eh

Jadey

Oh, I soooo agree. It's disappointing. I remember when I would listen to Staind and System of a Down and tell my freinds about how awesome they were and why corporate radio sucked becuase they didn't play them or other bands like them. By the time Staind's third album came out I was sick of them. Anytime I turned on the radio their shit was playing. Rock Stations, Top 40, Easy listening stations playing "Outside" They are played into the ground. I don't think I've even listened to that album since I bought it.

I realize it's better for the artists the more popular and the more airplay they get ( but it's even better for their label, but we've had that thread before), but there is a fine line between getting mass exposure and being shoved donw people's throats. That;s a little blunt, but I think you understand what I'm trying to say.

oi!skinhead

Almost as soon as anything becomes popular, it's not the artist deciding what they play, but the listeners, and since there's a whole shitload of new listeners, the music and artist become corrupted in a sence and then they just plain suck shit. It's true - I wont listen to anyone once they become popular. Why? because the new fans will drag the name to the ground and I don't want to listen to any of that shit anymore.

Sleepyjack

i agree with ShadwWraith, as it has also kinda become a brand name to not go for the brand names, which is a bit of a paradox. You should listen to music for its own merits and not because where its getting played and who else is listening to it. If you like it, then you like it. You'll find that no matter what, good music can be overplayed on the radio such that it doesn't become meaningless. Theres some music i listen to everyday or a particular song, and thats the good music. You can listen to it many, many times over and you still really get something out of it. I guess the more you get out of music, the more you can listen to it, without it getting boring or you start disrespecting it.

BulletBob

I don't really have anything relavent to add to this thread but I saw christian rock mentioned. CHRISTIAN ROCK IS AN OXYMORON!

ShadowWraith

Well actually, going back to the topic, you cant really blame muchmusic or mtv for overplaying bands. Using much's MuchOnDemand (another music video countdown show) as an example, all they do is let the fans vote for which videos are their favorite and play them in that order. They dont actually decide. So if anything, blame all the stupid fans who vote for the same video for 8 weeks in a row. However, I do agree about the radio though, its annoying when they take one song and play it every 5 min or so.

tinfoil

If you don't like how it is overplayed then I have a simple solution. Turn off your radio and watch another station. If everyone started doing that then radio / mm / mtv would go under and you would no longer have a problem.

However, this is a paradox. Without radio or television, fewer bands would be able to record as fewer cds would be sold.

So, we need to put up with it if we want to have 30,000+ new discs a year to choose from. I would be shocked if the number was half or even a third of that prior to mainstream media.

__________________
Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

slunk007

I remember back in the 90's when it was exciting to watch the Countdown on Friday nights ( I was younger, couldn't go out). But I am so very disappointed in the music that they are pushing down people's throats these days. No talent. Its a shameful money game and we're all losing.

tros22

Even, though you might say you should like music for what it is, there is so much more behind it. If you listen to music for the purpose of being an indivigual (to a certain degree), and find it on the much music charts, and finding that soon about half a millino people will soon be following the trend of being indivigual, when all they are doing is becoming a follower once again. It was mentioned earlier, that there should be a fine line between how things are played and exposed. I still truly think, that much music, should stick to a certain "type" of music. If they want to play just Rap, okay thats cool. They have much loud, thats not so bad. As long as you give clearity about types of music is being played, it would be easier for some of us.
And Bulletbob, you like christian rock and you know it!

__________________
Eh

zztzed

Am I the only one who can't figure out what the hell tros22 is talking about here? There's an if, but no then!

__________________
"It seemed to me that if humanoids eat chicken, then obviously they'd eat their own species, otherwise they'd just be picking on the chickens."

ShadowWraith

I think the "when" is meant to be "then" but whatever, i still get the gist of what hes saying

Spinach_Indeed

Evanescene has never said they were a Christian Band, they in fact resent being called one, not because they don't respect Christianity, because it makes people judge their music on a whole new level, they're now judged on the bases of whether or not they are "Spirtual" enough. One of the Band Members from Evanescene is Christian, not the band.

__________________
Spinach in Need is Spinach Indeed

OMFUG

Thanks Spinach, I was just about to point that out. Also, whoever said "Christian rock" is an oxymoron needs to look up the word oxymoron in the dictionary. Lastly, the reason I hate it when a band gets popular is because the album after that almust ALWAYS sucks so bad it rips my pubes off. The pressure created and the expectations of the music industry are excruciating, and are exacerbated by becoming MTV's darling of the week.

/rant

__________________
This space intentionally left blank.

MSD

I don't give a shit who listens to it. If I like music, I listen to it. I don't care how many people like it, what matters is if I do.

Honestly, a bunch of you sound like my brother. He loved Linkin Park's music, they hit MTV, suddenly he acts like they're the antichrist. I can't understand why people sould ditch music they like just because it becomes mainstream. To me, it says that they like the image of being the 'underground' crowd, not the music.

tinfoil

I think the confusion started as they were signed to a label that has a large number of other Christian bands so people assumed.

__________________
Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

nate_dawg

if you dont want to see the music you like on tv
dont watch it
simple

KWSN

Personally, I like it when bands I like get played on the radio/tv/whatever, I like having some other fans to talk about them with. However, I hate it when bands get overblown to a point where they become stereotypical of a genre, or to a point where the fame goes to their heads to a point where they care more about the money than the music, and their music degrades to a point where the band is making millions of dollars to produce crap.

See, I like it when a band I like comes out with one single which gets substantial play, and then kind of fade out, maybe get a little play for other singles, but nothing too huge. This happened for glassjaw, lostprophets, and the Apex Theory, my three favorite bands. I was glad. I like seeing good music do some things, as long as they don't do too much.

Oh yeah, and as far as the Christian thing goes, a lot of really good bands are considered "Christian" to many because of the fact that the band members are practicing Christians. Also, some of them have Christain references in their music (Chevelle, Norma Jean, The Beautiful Mistake). The genre isn't based on one type of music though, just the beliefs of the musicians, so I can't really call it a genre at all.

__________________
Your arms are broken!

itchy93

I don't mind a lesser-known band that I like getting exposed; that's great. The problem is, as <b>OMFUG</b> stated, that a band's sound changes to accomodate the single that sold.

The Offspring are a great example of that; they used to write fueled, meaningful lyrics, with almost every song having a purpose, but by the time Americana was out, their popular songs were "Get a Job" "Pretty Fly" and later (ugh)"Original Prankster". If their songs like "Tehran" (or "Baghdad"; same song about neighboring asshole countries) were pushed for airplay and made people think, then that's great. But instead, they chose to cater to the "Give it to me baby" crowd.

That's why bands getting popular sucks: because they typically alienate their original fanbase to draw in larger crowds.

holymoly

Metallica is only now becoming a trend!?! Are you on crack!?


One simple solution... STOP WATCHING MUCH MUSIC

I don't really have the problem with MM anyway since I only watch the french show (there's a lot of good french ska), and most bands I listen to don't make videos, and if they do, they don't get played...

TheComingCurse

I like Much Music (now Fuse) because the've had TWO metal shows (Loud and Uranium) on long before Headbangers's Ball came back.

supersix2

I agree that radio, for the most part, ruins a lot of music for me.
I hate MTV and I don't get Much Music so I never watch them. In fact, I've always hated MTV. My friends used to think I was nuts but now they are starting to agree. I've told them over and over again how MTV overplays everything if they play music at all. In fact I think that MTV2 is the only MTV station that actually plays music.
Anyway back to the radio. In my town there is 3 Rock/Alternative Stations. Out of those 1 is actually worth listening to because the other 2 mainly play crappy Pop music like those stupid boy bands and J. Lo and all that crap. Anyway the one decent station called The X always says how it plays "new X music" and crap like that.
The music they play is hardly ever new. Every so often they'll play one new song from a new band. Or every Sunday night they have "edge of the X" where they play some lesser knows and local stuff. Otherwise you can tell the time of day by what song they play. In fact, there were days were I drove home from school and heard a song. Then about an hour later I'd have to take my sister somewhere and hear the same song. Then I'd go to work. On my way to work I'd hear the song again. So within about 4 hours the same song was played 3 times. Out of that 4 hours they play on average of about 2.5 hours of music. The rest is filled with commercials. I think thats a little ridiculous.
Also, when a band, new or old, comes out with a new CD they only play 1 new song from that CD an entire month. So no matter what you only get to listen to 1 new song of a particular band in a whole month. I've also noticed that after a new CD comes out they usually play its songs for about 3 months. So on average of a 15 song CD they play only 3 songs from it.
After that 3 month period those 3 songs that they played still show up every now and they when they aren't playing "new X music."
A more specific example of this is System of a Down. Now I like System. That is, in moderation. Last spring starting in April they started playing some new System. Chop Suey was the song. All of April in the "new X music" lineup would be Chop Suey. Then in May all month it was Toxicity. Finally in June it was Ariels. Three good songs yes. But, when you hear them 4 times a day in a month they get a little old.
One thing I noticed about really good music is that it always leaves you wanting more. If only the song was a little longer. I wish I could hear it one more time. Once you hear a particular song enough that feeling is gone and it becomes tired. Radio stations should definatley play a wider variety of songs. Not just stick with one new song from a new CD per month.
If the song is good we do like to hear it again and again this fact is true. But, do we need to hear it multiple times a day every day for a month? Just that one song an entire month when there are other good songs on a CD? I think most of us can agree that the answer is no.

tros22

yes, i do suck at spelling, and making sence. There ya go, sorry to slow ya down.
Metillica is starting to become...MORE...of a trend, some, like you, still hold on strong since their first album, thats fine.

__________________
Eh