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Shauk 06-23-2009 06:06 AM

well, for one, i'm getting so tired of all the DK's
I fully expected the initial population to have a lot and then trickle off, but it's been the opposite with my server, even throughout the nerfs there are more and more dk's popping up now. I'm probably one of the best geared DK tanks on my server but I simply just don't enjoy it at the moment. It doesn't matter what hybrid I roll, i'm always expected to fulfil some role aside from damage so i've been leveling some pure dps classes to get a feel for what I like. I'm enjoying my hunter again, Explosive shot feels a bit overpowered but meh, it's what hunters do.

Baraka_Guru 06-23-2009 06:12 AM

They call the DK a hero class. I call them a "Timmy" class. You know, Timmy was always that kid you played games with who always had to have the most power and do the most destruction. Always. overdoing it. Always.

Tell me what DKs don't have. :expressionless:

Anyway, I found them boring to play. Just walk up and mash a few buttons and you'll be sure to take out all the mobs.

I'm coming from a priest, though, so the difference is pretty great. I guess I'm just a healer at heart.

Personally, in 3.2, I'm looking forward to the cheaper mounts. (I'm currently leveling.)

Cynthetiq 06-23-2009 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hrdwareguy (Post 2656624)
And what about the new change to the badge system in 3.2? Replacing all the badges of heroism and valor with conquest.

Thoughts?

Upcoming Emblem System Changes | Raid | WoW Blue Tracker | World of Raids
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In the next major content patch we will be making changes to the current emblem currency system to give players more reason to run the content we have released already in Wrath of the Lich King and provide a smoother experience for players looking to reach the higher tier content. While these are still subject to change we wanted to provide information on the direction the emblem currency system is headed.

· Each of the 10 and 25 player instances of the Crusaders’ Coliseum will drop a new Emblem of Triumph.

· Any dungeons that drop Emblems of Heroism or Valor, such as Naxxramas or Heroic Halls of Stone, will now drop Emblems of Conquest instead. Emblems of Conquest can still be converted to Valor or Heroism in case you want those items instead.

· The heroic dungeon daily quest will now reward two Emblems of Triumph and the normal daily dungeon quest will reward one Emblem of Triumph.

· The existing achievements to collect 1, 25, 50, etc. Emblems of Heroism, Valor, and Conquest will be converted to feats of strength since Heroism and Valor will no longer be available when the patch launches.

· A new achievement will be added to collect badges in general. If you had 20 Heroism, 10 Valor and 35 Conquest, you would get credit for the “50 badge” achievement as your total will be 65 badges.

To further encourage players to participate in more 5 player dungeons, the Coliseum’s 5 player instance will drop Champion’s Seals. In addition, the drakes used in The Oculus for the majority of this dungeon will now scale with a character’s gear like the vehicles in Ulduar.

The end goal of all these changes is help minimize the growing gear gap that is causing a lot of frustration for players trying to experience the latest content as well as encourage players to continue running the dungeons that were previously released.
I'm all for whatever makes the content a bit more easily accessible over time. Keep it hard in the beginning for those that want the challenge.

hrdwareguy 06-23-2009 06:34 AM

Addons
 
I've seen some screenshots where the default player frame has been changed to a square frame. What addon are you all using that does that?

Scorps 06-24-2009 01:02 PM

Changing the Badge things sounds stupid but that's just me.

Shauk 06-24-2009 02:02 PM

silly thing is they're buffing dk dps even more

Death Knight (3.1 Skills List / 3.1 Talent + Glyph Calc.)

* Blood Plague: Damage done increased by 15%.
* Blood Strike: The bonus damage this ability receives from diseases on the target has been increased to 25% per disease.
* Chains of Ice: Now reduces movement by 95% instead of 100%. The main effect of this change will be that targets of Chains of Ice will not have to re-issue a movement command to continue moving.
* Frost Fever: Damage done increased by 15%.

Death Knight

* Death Knight T9 Melee 2P Bonus (Class: Death Knight) -- Your Blood Strike and Heart Strike abilities have a chance to grant you 180 additional strength for 15 sec.
* Death Knight T9 Melee 4P Bonus (Class: Death Knight) -- Your Frost Fever and Blood Plague abiltiies now have a chance for their damage to be critical strikes.
Death Knight T9 Melee Relic (Rune Strike) (Class: Death Knight) -- Each time you use your Obliterate or Scourge Strike ability, you have a chance to gain 200 strength for 20 sec.



however, all the tanking changes are a big "Fuck you" from blizzard.

2 seconds off a taunt that you shouldn't need if you're not retarded
and 20 seconds off a cooldown that they're adding a minute to?

yeah I think i'll just go enjoy those dps buffs and my guild can make the new warrior tank

Scorps 06-25-2009 03:20 PM

Where are all these patch notes posted?

I want to see how badly ret pallies are getting worked over, and also any mage changes?

Frosstbyte 06-25-2009 03:44 PM

It's all up on mmo-champion. There are probably notes somewhere in the development page at blizzard's site.

YaWhateva 06-25-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorps (Post 2658337)
Where are all these patch notes posted?

I want to see how badly ret pallies are getting worked over, and also any mage changes?

the ptr notes are always here...

WoW -> Test Realm Patch Notes

Scorps 06-26-2009 12:48 PM

Cool thanks

Shauk 06-29-2009 02:11 PM

and now... paid faction changes.


oh lawd, I forsee an abundance of gnomes and blood elves.

Scorps 06-30-2009 01:21 PM

I hope this doesn't wreck the game

Shauk 07-01-2009 05:12 PM

Looks like they trademarked "Cataclysm" so all bets are on them announcing the next xpac at Blizzcon this August, suspected to be the Maelstrom expansion which revolves around the Cataclysm that took place at the well of eternity.


Nothing official yet but who needs official when you have a trademark?

from mmo-champion

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So ... What does it mean? Well, Wrath of the Lich King was trademarked a few weeks before the Blizzcon, we're not going to jump to conclusions here but WoWWiki will most likely give you a few things to think about on their Great Sundering article.

The Great Sundering, also known as simply the Sundering or the Cataclysm was a world event which reshaped Azeroth approximately 10,000 years ago at the end of the War of the Ancients. This event was triggered due to the Well of Eternity being destroyed.

Prior to the Sundering, there was only one continent on Azeroth, referred to as Kalimdor. In the catastrophic explosion, eighty percent of the land mass was destroyed leaving behind the major continents and scattered islands that are known today: Northrend, Kezan, the Eastern Kingdoms, and the remnant still referred to as Kalimdor.

The site of the Well of Eternity became a swirling vortex of power known as the Maelstrom.

A few days ago, one of our user also spotted a test server named "Maelstrom 3 Test" in the US server list (it only showed up for a few seconds, see This post). If the expansion is indeed The Maelstrom/Cataclysm, we can expect to see a few things here:

* Sargeras and/or Deathwing
* Azshara
* Goblins!

Scorps 07-02-2009 09:57 AM

Would be cool to see what they do next, but I still want to pwn Arthas

Shauk 07-02-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorps (Post 2662606)
Would be cool to see what they do next, but I still want to pwn Arthas

Yeah Icecrown Citadel will be the last content patch (3.3) before they move along to the new xpac

Scorps 07-03-2009 01:32 PM

Just like BT half the guilds will never see past the first boss.

Verdan 07-04-2009 09:02 AM

Timmy!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2656635)
They call the DK a hero class. I call them a "Timmy" class. You know, Timmy was always that kid you played games with who always had to have the most power and do the most destruction. Always. overdoing it. Always.


My first thought as I was reading this was of the South Park character Timmy. He's not quite all there.

Compared to some games, WoW tends to be forgiving of sloppy play. I say this because I see people in their 60's who seem to have little idea of how to handle a fight and next to no understanding of how to function in a group. I might just be unlucky.

The DK just seems to cater to this play-style: can't find a smart, creative way to handle those critters? Just brute force it!

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Crack 07-04-2009 02:34 PM

Friend of mine just started playing again, he just hit 77, trained cold weather flying, and we were headed out to HoL to lvl him up in the instance. Flying there, my NPCscan started going nuts, "Time-Lost Proto Drake Found!" SOAB, we killed it, and HE won the roll. /sigh

He can't even use it until he hits 80.

Baraka_Guru 07-04-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdan (Post 2663524)
The DK just seems to cater to this play-style: can't find a smart, creative way to handle those critters? Just brute force it!

Ha, ha! Yeah, exactly. I'm just waiting for the patch where they give Death Knights stealth.

(Oh, and nerf priests. Again. :P)

Shauk 07-04-2009 04:09 PM

honestly I don't get the big deal about DK's

Maybe it's because I spent the time learning how to play them, seems to me though that every dk i've come across on my hunter, I destroy.

They blow deathgrip, i hit wing clip and disengage, they spend 25-35 seconds unable to close the gap, consequently the same cooldown as disengage so i can do it all day long. They're extremely kitable. with the different snares some of the pets have too, I can usually stay outranged of chains of ice too.

against healers, they've got no MS type ability so it's perfectly likely that they can't out dps your healing on their own.

with the new resil changes coming up they'll be even more of a joke to shrug off as far as melee based utility goes.

DK's stopped bringing anything unique to the table the second they removed their hot removal utility.

Scorps 07-05-2009 03:12 PM

I stomp DK's on my mage in PvP...I love it when the grip me and all I do is nova then blink :P

Shauk 07-05-2009 05:46 PM

yeah frost mages basically make a mockery of DK's

Scorps 07-06-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shauk (Post 2664035)
yeah frost mages basically make a mockery of DK's

But I hate frost, I PvP with fire.

Taja 07-10-2009 06:27 PM

Is it wrong to listen to Iron Maiden while playing, instead of the silly ambiance?

Scorps 07-11-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taja (Post 2666918)
Is it wrong to listen to Iron Maiden while playing, instead of the silly ambiance?

I have had to music turned off sense BWL :D

I sometimes play with music in the back ground but I am always talking to people on vent.

Shauk 07-17-2009 04:20 AM

Understanding the World of Warcraft Using Super Mario Brothers | Cracked.com

seeming as how when summer rolls around and i'm anxious to be outside more, I quit my wow account(s) and find all the "i hate wow" shit on the internet to make it easier to last until fall again :P

Scorps 07-17-2009 11:20 AM

LOL I don't quit just play less

high_jinx 07-23-2009 11:57 AM

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Sam Raimi to direct Warcraft film


Wow Movie. Directed by Sam Raimi!!!! Hell mother F'in YEA! i wonder who it will tell the story of. thrall? arthas? or a random pug?

Scorps 07-23-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by high_jinx (Post 2674631)
BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Sam Raimi to direct Warcraft film


Wow Movie. Directed by Sam Raimi!!!! Hell mother F'in YEA! i wonder who it will tell the story of. thrall? arthas? or a random pug?

Blizzard Entertainment - Press Release

keef 07-25-2009 03:57 PM

Any guesses on when 3.2 comes out?

Cynthetiq 07-25-2009 04:11 PM

based on previous releases, aug/september and they are already downloading the patches. I was really hoping for November.
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Granpappy Frostheim on Wiping – Warcraft Hunters Union
Granpappy Frostheim on Wiping

By Frostheim
Granpappy Frostheim on Wiping

By Frostheim – July 24, 2009

Okay kids, sit down and make yourselves comfortable while grandpappy Frostheim tells you a little story about a boss called Razorgore the Untamed in a place called Blackwing’s Lair.

This will maybe learn you kids something about what wiping was really like, back in my days.

Now this was a long time ago, before most of you were even rolled. Our guild had finally gotten Molten Core down on farm status and many of us were itching to move into BWL and start collecting more T2 pieces, the legendary Dragonstalker’s set.

As you can imagine, we had our share of wiping while learning Molten Core. There were the wipes while learning each new boss, and the retro-wipes on Sulfuron when we didn’t get the priest positioning right. But to be honest, I never learned what wiping really was until BWL.

You step in to BWL and you’re in the room of Razorgore, the first boss. No trash, no wasted time – just step in and fight the first boss. At the time we were raiding twice a week. One night we cleared MC and Onyxia, and the other we started learning Razorgore.

w-razor1

And how we wiped. We would play for three hours, wiping on the same boss over and over and over. And then the next week we’d come back and do it again. Then the next week, and the next.

The fight required someone to control Razorgore and use his ability to pop all the eggs in the place. Meanwhile, various mobs spawned continuously until there were 40 of them in the place. Every time you killed one, another spawned to replace it.

It was chaos.

Our strat was to have two tanks kiting the mobs around in circles while the dps took out the one kind of mob that wasn’t kitable (hoping that the random respawn would be a kitable type). The result of this is we had tons of mobs spawning with no aggro.

As hunters, we had some unique roles in this fight.

Now this was before Misdirection, so we had no way to direct the mobs to the tanks. We could and did lay freezing traps to slow them down — and that was no easy task as the time. You see, back then you couldn’t lay traps while in combat, so when the cooldown was up we’d have to recall our pet, Feign Death (which dropped us out of combat) and try to instantly lay a trap before we were thrust back into combat.

Now a big problem was healers getting ganked by the newly spawned mobs from healing aggro. One way that we combatted this is the healers were only allowed to heal their kiting tanks — they could not heal anyone else because they had to keep their threat down. We had a whole other set of healers who weren’t allowed to heal at all — they were on standby for phase 2.

Healing the dpser and the healers was the hunters’ job.

Seriously.

Whenever someone (usually a rogue) in our vicinity was low on health, we ran over to them in a pause between spawns and bandaged them. They couldn’t bandage themselves because, again, they would get healing threat. As hunters this was our job because we could Feign Death to remove the threat we got from bandaging.

w-razor2However, this was much harder back then than it is now. You see, back in vanilla days FD worked just a bit differently than it does now. As you know, all mobs have a chance to resist your FD, and anyone who resists isn’t fooled and can keep attacking you (and remembers your threat). Well back then if any mob resisted your FD, then every mob resisted your FD. And, of course, you were in a room with 40 mobs. The chances of just one of them resisting was pretty darned good.

Of course back in those days we hunters had honed a slightly different skillset than kids today. We’d bandage our comrades, a mob would aggro on us, and FD would get resisted. So then we’d whip off a concussive shot and start kiting the mob over near one of the kiting tanks in hopes that they’d have a taunt available to take him off our hands. Once the handoff was made we’d return to our assigned group to find them all dead, and shortly after we’d die too as the whole raid wiped. Again.

It was good times.

Nothing in Molten Core had prepared me for this kind of wiping. And while it was at times frustrating, it was mostly exciting. Raiding in vanilla was an elite occupation. Very, very few guilds could even get the necessary 40 people together for a raid, and fewer still could get through MC. Just by being in BWL we were fighting a boss that fewer than 1% of players had ever even attempted. We were thrilled to be there, and excited by our slow progress from week to week.

Nowadays things are a bit different. I can’t imagine many guilds today that could wipe for 3 hours on the same boss, first in the instance, week after week after week without having half the guild members give up and probably deguild in anger.

Heck, when my 10-man group starts to approach an hour of wiping on one boss people start suggesting it’s time to give up and move on.

Kids these days don’t know how easy they’ve got it.

Back in my day we had perseverence. Those first couple bosses in BWL were designed so that you would spend weeks wiping on the boss before getting it. Nobody one-shot them. I can tell you we appreciated the slightest progress from one wipe to the next. We were encouraged by living an extra few minutes; that was progress. Back in my day we knew how to HTFU.

So that’s how endgame raids were in my day. And after a month of wiping on Razorgore I can tell you it felt good to finally take him down, and we were excited to step into the next room to fight the next boss, Vael, who required more weeks of wiping.

So remember that next time you’re wiping endlessly on a boss. Remember what wiping used to be like, and quit paying so much attention to beating the boss. Just pay attention to living a little bit longer, making just a little bit more progress. Focus on just making the next step.

Eventually you’ll get there. One step at a time. And it will feel so good.

Drider_it 07-30-2009 05:01 AM

Im so pissed....
 
so i jump outta my chair to cook supper for my 5 kids and me before our OS run.. and i get kicked off the server ... I try to relog and im told my account is disabled. 2 hours later i get this..

Access to the World of Warcraft account *********, has been temporarily disabled due to a chargeback filed against the account's past payment(s) which were billed to a telephone number via PaymentOne.

As a result of this dispute, funds paid on the account were withdrawn from Blizzard Entertainment in direct violation of the account's terms. This is known as a "chargeback."

The total withdrawn by this chargeback(s) was: 59.96

If your charge is returned to Blizzard Entertainment for any reason, Blizzard Entertainment reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to suspend or terminate your access and your Account, as well as terminating this Agreement and all of Blizzard Entertainment's obligations hereunder.

The account is now considered by Blizzard to have a negative balance, and will be unavailable for play until any and ALL outstanding balances have been repaid to Blizzard. These funds can only be repaid via a United States money order for the full and EXACT amount of the disputed funds: 59.96

This money order must be made out to "Blizzard Entertainment" and MUST clearly list the World of Warcraft account name in question: **********

It should be mailed to this address:

ATTN: Billing & Account Services
Blizzard Entertainment
P. O. Box 18979
Irvine, CA 92623

We strongly suggest you use some form of tracking to make sure your mail gets to Blizzard Entertainment; we are not able to assist with lost inquiries. If we do not receive your package, we will not be able process your request. Once the money order is received and processed, Blizzard will unlock the account for play again, provided these instructions have been followed. Upon payment, Blizzard will also credit the account with play time equivalent to any paid subscription time that the account was locked out for (up to a maximum of 180 days).

This process to unlock the account is offered with this email is considered as a final warning: ***ANY subsequent payment disputes will result in a permanent closure of the account for repeated breach of the Terms of Use.***

Unless the above process is followed to get the money order to Blizzard, the World of Warcraft account in question will remain unplayable until said funds are received. Please do not reply to this email, as you will receive no further response. Be aware that Blizzard Billing representatives will NOT be able to provide any alternatives or expedite this process in any way.

Regards,
Billing & Account Services
Blizzard Entertainment


Not only me but a ton of us that used the payment one method to pay are screwed there are players that owe over 500 bucks now.

I looked over my phone bill and it shows me paying and i have the reciept saying i paid the phone company.

Payment one actually in One day mind you, slapped blizzard saying hey you owe us this cuz all these players use fraud to sign up and play.

so blizzard pays them then locks our accounts until we pay.

so what gives.. i talked to support on this cuz its a "final warning" and said ..

"do you honestly belive im gonna to pay you and have them come back say 2 months later and say i owe more?"

he said that wont happen.. then i said well look what already has.

And im not the only one..

at 1st i thought it was my old phone company but every phone company out there wont all at one time, issue charge backs.. it all comes back to this payment one crap.

so if your account is locked and this happens nothing you can do i guess but bite a big one and pay up.

as for me, soon as my account is up im moving all my 80's to a new account and only use game cards.

man this sucks

and i told billing that .. if you dont pay you dont play.. how is it i could play last year those 4 months but yet here i am now screwed.

Cynthetiq 07-30-2009 07:20 AM

damn that sucks

i'm not a fan of 3rd party payment options at all for these kinds of reasons, even CCs upset me.

Drider_it 07-30-2009 01:41 PM

welp im paying blizzard tomorrow the mo i have i will get a tracking number with it.. i can email this guy at blizzard and it proves the "check is in the mail" he will unlock my account.

and yep my phone company said they (paymentone) got intouch with them and my phone company told them we paid you .. so they in turn went to blizzard and demanded payment claiming fraud.

so im screwed have to pay and i will... but i hope down the line they get spanked.. payment one that is..

in other news here is what i found out about payment one....

from the customer forums

Q u o t e:
in 2002 the US Federal Trade Commission forced the internet pay company e-Billit to refund $1.6 million to customers for fraudulent charges.

From J. Howard Beales III, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection: "This settlement serves notice to billing aggregators that if they support fraudulent activities, they will be held responsible for their actions. It also points to the importance of consumers filing fraud complaints with the FTC. By spotting trends among the consumer complaints in our database, we were able to identify the fraudulent activity and put a stop to it in less than three weeks.

After all the bad publicity e-Billit changed its name to PaymentOne.


you know i dont think blizzard did their homework.

but you know what .. neither did I so im learning now what to do in the future.. either research a 3rd party or just completly forget that option exists.

Scorps 07-30-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq (Post 2678876)
damn that sucks

i'm not a fan of 3rd party payment options at all for these kinds of reasons, even CCs upset me.

I agree I just buy a card every 60 days

vancityboi 07-30-2009 03:04 PM

so i just recently started playing WoW after a 1 1/2 year of absence..and i dont regret it. They have changed so much to make it easier for new ppl to play. OH and i also re-rolled my very first horde BE and playing as the different faction totally makes it a whole new experience...

BUt with the heat we have in my city..i could barely sit down and play for long hours..oh well its still a fun game :)

Theres my daily rant :)

Scorps 08-01-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by vancityboi (Post 2679149)
so i just recently started playing WoW after a 1 1/2 year of absence..and i dont regret it. They have changed so much to make it easier for new ppl to play. OH and i also re-rolled my very first horde BE and playing as the different faction totally makes it a whole new experience...

BUt with the heat we have in my city..i could barely sit down and play for long hours..oh well its still a fun game :)

Theres my daily rant :)

Get a fan...that's what I did before I got A/C:thumbsup:

Cynthetiq 08-04-2009 07:18 AM

I really thought it was going to be later in the year, but good. Now I can rush home from my board meeting...
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Patch 3.2 on Live Servers This Week [Confirmed]

Patch 3.2 on Live Servers This Week
CONFIRMED - The Server Alert has been changed in Europe, the patch is now officialy confirmed.
Quote from Blizzard staff
This Wednesday there will be an extended maintenance to apply patch 3.2.0. Please note that all European realms will be offline from 03:00 until 11:00, Paris time (CEST).

Update 01:00AM PDT - The test realms are now officially offline.

Patch 3.2 on Live Servers This Week
I now have enough information in my hands to say that Patch 3.2 will be deployed on live servers this week, just like all the time this is not confirmed by Blizzard yet but it's 99.99% sure.

You can check the menu on your left to access all the information you will need on this patch. (I added articles to the Argent Tournament since yesterday)

Scorps 08-04-2009 01:35 PM

Patch day oh noes

high_jinx 08-06-2009 01:39 PM

warsong gulch sucks now! 1 team scores and then turtles up till the 20 min timer runs out. BOOO.

Scorps 08-06-2009 03:36 PM

Boo, I need the WSG daily still for the achievement.

purplelirpa 08-06-2009 09:20 PM

patch 3.2 is up now? Lost my job and haven't been able to play for a month...argh!

Cynthetiq 08-07-2009 05:26 AM

I've been busy... the new hunter trap dancing is a bit interesting for those that can trap dance...I been dancing since MC, but Surv spec got me standing still again doing pew pew pew.

the new Argent arena thing was pretty nuts, thought it was quite challenging the first time out there last night.

Arandrul 08-07-2009 05:00 PM

I gotta learn the ways of Survival or something because im still a noob with a big red kitty loll BM STILL FOR THE WIN

Scorps 08-08-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Arandrul (Post 2684159)
I gotta learn the ways of Survival or something because im still a noob with a big red kitty loll BM STILL FOR THE WIN

From what I see BM has always been a strong build, my Hunter is BM atm but shes only lvl 72 kinda got bored.

Been busy with my baby druid.

Shauk 08-17-2009 03:09 PM

well, was on my long list of "things to try doing" but someone beat me to it. Not up to my standards but still hilarious


Shauk 08-21-2009 05:15 PM

so i'm watching blizzcon on dtv and... the trailer looks amazing, the announcements are def a game changer.

Can't say I'm thrilled about the races but they make sense I guess.


so many core mechanic changes.

Reese 08-21-2009 06:29 PM

It's like blizzard took every off the wall suggestion from players and put it in the expansion.

Everything looks very interesting. I'm sure I'll be back to see the new content and play the rest of the story line. Maybe giving hunters focus instead of mana will help them balance the class.. Or we could be nerfed through the entire expansion likes rogues are in LK...

Shauk 08-21-2009 11:08 PM

so um, slightly unrelated but, have any of you ever managed to snag a hard copy of the game before the street date? I ask because I get tired of watching east coasters log in 3 hours early and stomp through new xpac content before the rest of us even get a chance to compete.

Any suggestions on where to order from? I ordered from 3 places last year and they were all late (day of) deliveries. Amazon/gamestop/eb so.. yea

Cynthetiq 08-22-2009 07:28 AM

I got our BC at Gamestop, after work, day of. So I didn't get it at midnight.

LK I got from Best Buy at midnight. Was in and out back at home in 30 minutes.

I was going to opt for shipped, but always felt that if something happened in the shipping to delay it would suck that I would have to wait extra for no reason.

Last year of LK there were some Gamestop stores here in NYC that accidentally sold early if I remember correctly.

Personally I don't see why that can't happen more in getting stuff early since the rest of the content can't unlock until the servers let you.

Lasereth 08-22-2009 08:09 AM

I hate Blizzard. Torturing me with awesome expansions......this one sounds the coolest of all of them. I've been saying for years that they should find a way to incorporate the old eastern kingdom and kalimdor continents with higher level content or even just new content in general...and now they do it. Half the shit on that list is stuff I wanted even back when I played years ago. urghhh

Reese 08-22-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth (Post 2692117)
I hate Blizzard. Torturing me with awesome expansions......this one sounds the coolest of all of them. I've been saying for years that they should find a way to incorporate the old eastern kingdom and kalimdor continents with higher level content or even just new content in general...and now they do it. Half the shit on that list is stuff I wanted even back when I played years ago. urghhh

Ha, That's exactly what I thought when I read the expansion info Lasereth. Kept saying WTF NOW THEY ADD IT!?

With the expansion, there won't be any unfinished areas left in the game. Hyjal, Uldum grim Batal will all be used. I wonder what they'll do to the big empty spaces on the Azeroth map that you used to get to by wall climbing? I'm interested in seeing how they change the map to allow flying. All the old secret spots will be gone which is sad. I'm glad I got a chance to explore it all.

Scorps 08-23-2009 08:57 AM

I still haven't looked in to the new stuff yet, maybe I should.

Baraka_Guru 08-24-2009 07:44 PM

Tonight I wasted half an hour trying to get into an instance that wouldn't load. Meh.

boom29 08-26-2009 01:11 PM

Regarding the future expansion, I'm really looking forward to seeing the changing landscape of Azeroth as well as the changes that they've made to the guild system, such as the guild talent points.

Scorps 08-26-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2693416)
Tonight I wasted half an hour trying to get into an instance that wouldn't load. Meh.

Done that before:grumpy:

Reese 09-20-2009 04:17 PM

So.. I started playing WOW again... I''m not raiding or even in a guild so I'm not really expected to be online which is nice. The freedom to just play when you want without needing to be online for the raid really makes the game easy to put down when real life knocks on the door. I figured, Hell, I've been spending 100s of dollars on new games trying to fill my free time since I quit. I figure it's cheaper to play WOW.

When I logged on 7 days ago, I had 27 gold. Now I have 9000. Mining/Jewelcrafting has been so freaking profitable for me. I've also been taking tons of risks with my money that I wouldn't have taken when I was actually attached to the game and it's really fun. (Is it bad the only reason I knew I started playing 7 days ago was because I just opened and bought a new egg from the oracles dude this morning?)

I bought a stack of Titanium Ore for 300g. To make a profit I knew I needed 2 epic gems. With 4 prospects and a 25% chance per prospect the odds were against it. The risk payed off through and I got 4 epic gems from the stack. They sold for 150g each.

Then I bought 71 stacks of Saronite ore at 14g per stack. It cost 994g. I prospected all of the ore and auctioned everything and made roughly 2000g. It's hard to say exactly how much I made, but Scarlet Rubies alone brought in 700g. Chalcedony was bringing about 120g+ per stack and other green quality gems were bringing 30-60g per stack. Some of the blue gems though like twilight Opal and Sky Sapphires, I ended up cutting them and vendoring them. Hell, I bought a couple off the AH, cut them and vendored them for a tiny profit. :)

Being up early in the morning helps. Mining with a 310% flying mount in Wintergrasp at 6am is insane. I'm so glad they didn't rebalance the spawn rate of nodes when they allowed you to start flying in there. I bet they do fix it sometime in the future though.

Oh yeah.. BREWFEST! I'm 1 achievement away from the Voilet Proto-drake. I already have the Plagued proto, but finally having a 2nd 310 mount means I don't have to fly the exact same mount everywhere. :) Just need 190 more brewfest tokens!

I like taking long breaks from this game. When I come back there's all this new stuff to do. New dailies, New mounts and pets to collect. I didn't realize how much stuff had come out since I quit. I was pretty much caught up and had every obtainable mount and companion pet but now there's like 10 raptor pets and all the argent tournament mounts that I gotta earn.

ok.. Talked too much, bedtime. Gnite.

Baraka_Guru 09-20-2009 07:30 PM

I just wanted to wander in here to say a couple of things.
  1. Fuck I hate PUGs that attract idiots who don't know the mechanics of the game. I just wasted 2 hours with a group that had a mage and a druid who didn't know how the fuck to control their threat. There was a death knight more than 5 levels above them that wasn't generating as much threat they were. So what happened? It felt like I was healing 3 tanks, except two of them weren't wearing metal armour and had half the health as a typical tank of their level. So then, of course, the group dies, falls apart, and one of them had the gall to call me the worst healer. Nice. So I told him he's the worst tank. "I'm not the tank." "Then stop fucking being one." Fuckwad.
  2. I think I'm going to let my membership lapse. I like the idea of mmo gaming, but I'm hitting tilt on WoW. The quality of my experience is diminishing (see point #1). I see there are a number of games coming down the pipeline. I'm thinking of trying a few out, and I don't want to spend more than $20 per month on gaming.

Shauk 09-20-2009 10:30 PM

Yeah it's strange to watch my posting habits in this thread over the years. i'm all over the place, shitting on the game, praising it, quitting, playing, etc..

I've changed my mind yet again and I guess it comes down to this:


I'm good at games, I've been gaming since my thumbs could move, and computer gaming since floppies were actually floppy.

I have done enough research on this game over the last 4/5 whatever years to write a small book i'm sure and that is what makes you better than those "fucking pugs" we all hate who just log in and go "uh lets go kill whats his face" and "is that a good item for me?" every time something drops. I just decided, the mechanics in this game are a mess at times

Lets face it, yes, they work. No, they don't please everyone, (a lot of single player "omg why am i not a superhero?" mentality creeps in to this game) and yes, they require a lot of knowledge from it's playerbase when tackling the end game challenges.

It's hard enough for me to find 4 other people to properly clear a 5 man instance without it feeling like I'm carrying the brunt of the weight, It's all great that I can top DPS, top heal, or tank entire pulls rotating cooldowns/avoidance and health restoration abilities while the healer is off spanking his pud in the corner or something.

it's equally frustrating having to deal with the immature community aspect of it when dealing with 25 man content, expecting people to understand the mechanic of each fight, and how their class is best applied for that encounter, on top of how to gear for a particular role.

me and my friends are a group of fairly dedicated gamers that like to push ourselves to the very end of our limits, I brought people in to this game and I've been in top progression guilds, My friends have gone to other guilds since I left, (10th and 32nd top guilds in the US) (used to be 3rd best on our server) I can't say we're all of the same skill level, I don't play what they play and they don't play what I play, all I can credit to myself is that I taught them how to properly research the answers to any questions they ever have.

They may ultimately be creating a more casual friendly game which in turn will increase the "skill" perception of it's playerbase I suppose, I just remember back in the day when you saw people in BWL or AQ40 loot, people would stop and shit themselves because you KNEW that those people had a clue.

Now, you can run 5 mans and deck yourself out fairly quick in t8, and eventually even t9 if you're persistent with dailies. It doesn't mean you're going to be any good though.

It's kinda odd, it used to be the gear was the reward, now the gear is the requirement to complete some of the challenges set forth.


I guess the point of this rambling is that it's pointless for me to waste my time in this game unless i'm doing what puts me at the very limit of my skillset, not the very limit of 24 other subpar skillsets.

It's like playing rock band with 3 retarded band members barely getting by on medium despite you acing the entire track on expert. Your rating at the end will be a mediocre 3 stars and the game will not reward you properly as a good player.

I just don't see myself jumping servers or factions at this point, I just feel like any sense of community I had has been completly dissolved by name changes, faction changes, race changes, server transfers, etc.. I don't know anyone despite being there for 5 years at this point.

One thing I liked about other MMO's I played is that your name meant something, your reputation meant something. Now? you have a license to be a complete dick to anyone and everyone. 10$ and nobody will know who you are.


all that said, the game is ok I guess, I don't even know if I'm going to pick up the xpac or keep playing though.

Cynthetiq 10-07-2009 07:00 PM


Onyxia, the broodmother of the Black Dragonflight.... we meet again.

Ce'Nedra 10-25-2009 03:34 AM

Any other RPers? Lightninghoof is my main server (RP-PVP) and I would love the chance to rant about non-RPers on my server. I'll just save my typing, though, if there's no one else to sympathize with me! :rolleyes:

Scorps 10-25-2009 09:40 AM

I don;t know why people roll a toon on a RP server if they are not into it, I stick to my Normal and PvP servers(I got toons on 2 servers in case of a shut down on my main)

Ce'Nedra 10-25-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorps (Post 2721329)
I don;t know why people roll a toon on a RP server if they are not into it, I stick to my Normal and PvP servers(I got toons on 2 servers in case of a shut down on my main)

I don't get it either! There's got to be at least 10 non-RP servers for every 1 RP. A lot of people's reasoning when I ask on Lightninghoof is that it's RP-PVP. Apparently they are under the impression it's one or the other. They fail to grasp the concept of it being both at the same time.

donmaytee 10-25-2009 05:11 PM

Fuck me, that's a game a miss, always will. Took over my life, now i have no time to play it, ah well.

Baraka_Guru 11-26-2009 09:18 AM

I'm up to level 71 now, and I just finished saving up for a dual talent specialization.

As a priest, this is going to be a godsend. Now I can solo as shadow and run instances as holy. No more choosing between to two or just really sucking at one or the other.

Cynthetiq 12-27-2009 02:54 AM

okay... just finished the first 4 sections of 10 man ICC.. that was fricken fun as hell!!!! The airship battle was probably one of the most imaginative things I have ever seen in the game. They really are digging deep into the lore and into the game play of WC3. Totally awesome....

Scorps 12-27-2009 12:48 PM

The air ship for me is easy being ranged I just get to blow stuff up with a cannon.

Cynthetiq 12-29-2009 03:08 PM

When trying to get your Pug pet achievement, PUG BINGO!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...q/pugbingo.jpg

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Scorps 12-30-2009 12:59 PM

I have seen a lot of those and have been a lot..I use the random heroic more on my alt then my main, main only needs the new badges.

Strange Famous 01-01-2010 08:47 AM

I saw some adverts for it and decided to give it a go.

Strange Famous 01-01-2010 01:38 PM

Well,its quite addictive-but I just got iced 4 times in a rowby Princess the Pig, so Im gonna give up for the night.

---------- Post added at 09:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:33 PM ----------

I also got fucked up once by a fishman, once by a bear, and twice when I was in the mine and the Kobbold fucks went three on one on me.

So in three hours playing at the beginners level I got murdered 8 times!

I did kill the pig twice by ganging up on it with another fighter so we could each slaugher one pig (Princess and her boyfriend) - but both times the other guy got the award. WhenI tried to battle them two on one they fucked me up!

Some of the quests I dont like. One I had to kill these bandits, but it took a long time cos half of them were female and I had to leave them to kill the male bandits.

Baraka_Guru 01-01-2010 02:08 PM

Ah, another victim!

If you think it's addictive now, wait until you've played it a few more hours, or weeks, or days, or months....

You don't even know the half of it yet. Things only start to get interesting at level 10, and it goes up exponentially from there.

What server are you on?

Scorps 01-01-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2744387)
Well,its quite addictive-but I just got iced 4 times in a rowby Princess the Pig, so Im gonna give up for the night.

---------- Post added at 09:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:33 PM ----------

I also got fucked up once by a fishman, once by a bear, and twice when I was in the mine and the Kobbold fucks went three on one on me.

So in three hours playing at the beginners level I got murdered 8 times!

I did kill the pig twice by ganging up on it with another fighter so we could each slaugher one pig (Princess and her boyfriend) - but both times the other guy got the award. WhenI tried to battle them two on one they fucked me up!

Some of the quests I dont like. One I had to kill these bandits, but it took a long time cos half of them were female and I had to leave them to kill the male bandits.

Kill everything...lol

what class are you playing? I know your human just by reading that.

Baraka_Guru 01-01-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorps (Post 2744407)
what class are you playing? I know your human just by reading that.

Good question. Not all classes are geared toward beginners.

Scorps 01-01-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2744408)
Good question. Not all classes are geared toward beginners.

Would so be nice toss out some suggestions :thumbsup:
I always for giving the new people tips.

Strange Famous 01-01-2010 02:22 PM

haha, Im the class anyone would probably guess

Human Paladin

They can do some magic,but it mostly seems to be healing or protection stuff

I am level 7 atm. No idea what server,whichever one the game put me on, Im doing a 10day free trial, so I guess an easy one. I read online that its best to try those pigs when you're level 10/11- so I'm gonna do the easier quests first and then come back and feed Princess the Pig to the worms.

It is quite addicting. Im still a complete beginner, so I dont know what a Paladin is best for - but it seems a bit of a jack of all trades master of none type of charcter, but I just wanted to be a mujahadeen!

Baraka_Guru 01-01-2010 02:26 PM

Well, you probably chose a suitable class then. The common complaint is that paladins are overpowered.

You will basically be good at a number of things depending on your style. You can take damage, heal damage, deal damage, protect others, etc., depending on your set up.

Take some time to look up "paladin builds" to see how your talents work beginning at level 10.

I use wowwiki.com and talentchic.com for most of my information.

Strange Famous 01-03-2010 02:04 PM

The world Im in is called Terenas - is that also the server?

I just joined a guild, so hopefully I can get into some of the missions which are too hard to do alone at my level!

Scorps 01-03-2010 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous (Post 2744964)
The world Im in is called Terenas - is that also the server?

Yes

Cynthetiq 01-03-2010 04:04 PM

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Redjake 01-03-2010 04:52 PM

Just started playing again for 7 days (had a free 7 day trial). The game hasn't changed much low-level but dang it seems a lot different at 70+. Also, I see they haven't fixed the "everything is obselete and barren of actual people except for the 4 or 5 major cities" syndrome. I've run into maybe 5 people from level 1 - 11 so far on my new character...

Forgot how much fun the game can be. The graphics are really getting dated but they still get the job done.

I haven't played in 2 years.

Reese 01-05-2010 02:44 AM

Cyn, My friend and I just looked over that PUG Bingo and we've pretty much filled all three boards. Funny thing, I tanked an entire HTOC using my lance the other day with all guildies...


Anyway, Just finished tanking ICC 10man on my druid. It's quite easy and we 1 shot everything except Saurfang which we had to reset twice because we misunderstood the mechanics of the fight. It was very fun though.

btw.. http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3...1709222044.jpg This is what feral druids look like on airship fight...

MPower 01-05-2010 08:32 AM

Nice job feral tanking ICC. We had our druids run dps or heals to counter the -20% dodge.

Scorps 01-06-2010 02:00 PM

We got 1 DK, 2 warriors and 1-2 druid(s) as are normal tanks and they all do great in ICC.

(most of the time are 2nd druid tank is a tree :p )

Reese 01-06-2010 07:28 PM

It's really not any worse for a druid tank in ICC. -20% avoidance is the same across the board. There was a lot of fuzzy math trying to say otherwise but I think it's been cleared up.

Precious can kiss my ass! Best in Show... grr Stupid trash is worse than the boss.

MPower 01-07-2010 09:40 AM

lol. those dogs and all the undead are by far the hardest trash ever.

Cynthetiq 01-08-2010 08:36 AM

Quote:

"When *I* Raided we had to attune to the damned instance. Had to walk all the way across Winterspring, barefoot, at 'walk' speed, uphill, both ways. Then MAYBE we'd get to roll on the quest item you needed. Maybe."
Ah, I love being an old original raider. These new raiders that don't have to do anything but just show up... GET OFF MY LAWN!

Scorps 01-08-2010 01:59 PM

Ya now everyone and there dog can get into say ICC 25, I remember trying to get the BT attunment wow that was a bitch, then right after I got it they took it away.

Strange Famous 01-08-2010 02:27 PM

Im starting to think my man is a weakling.

When I see other fighters of the same level they all seem to do more damage than he does, and can take just as much. All his magic is weak ass healing shit, his hammer is weak... and somehow I have "linked" or "bonded" or something with a fucking shield... I taught him to be an apprentice blacksmith also, but I dont know how to make the guy make himself a better mace...

Still, I'm still ploughing on...

Punk.of.Ages 01-08-2010 08:35 PM

I'm officially addicted...

My first month just ended. I have a level 34 Dwarf Warrior on Garrosh and I have a level 10 Blood Elf Mage I just started on Boulderfist.

Reese 01-10-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages (Post 2746541)
I'm officially addicted...

My first month just ended. I have a level 34 Dwarf Warrior on Garrosh and I have a level 10 Blood Elf Mage I just started on Boulderfist.

Welcome to the club! All of my characters are on Boulderfist too. If you need any help just hit me up. I'm on my druid named Dhol most of the time.

SF, Paladins tend to be slow early in the game. They do get stronger as they level though. You'll have a lot of utility and damage dealing abilities later on in the game.

Quote:

Ya now everyone and there dog can get into say ICC 25, I remember trying to get the BT attunment wow that was a bitch, then right after I got it they took it away.
True true, My druid went from 5mans to tanking ICC 25 in weeks without stepping foot in another raid instance on him. It's crazy. I remember early raiding, buying epics meant spending your DKP.

Cynthetiq 01-10-2010 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reese (Post 2746776)
Welcome to the club! All of my characters are on Boulderfist too. If you need any help just hit me up. I'm on my druid named Dhol most of the time.

SF, Paladins tend to be slow early in the game. They do get stronger as they level though. You'll have a lot of utility and damage dealing abilities later on in the game.



True true, My druid went from 5mans to tanking ICC 25 in weeks without stepping foot in another raid instance on him. It's crazy. I remember early raiding, buying epics meant spending your DKP.

I don't think that it's that crazy. It becomes very apparent when you're playing that someone doesn't have raid awareness, class skills, and class experience. At least that's the experience I have when seeing pugs for 10 and 25 man raids.

Reese 01-17-2010 04:11 AM

scariest thing I've seen in WOW...


Punk.of.Ages 01-17-2010 08:13 PM

I pity the fool...

macsmith230 01-17-2010 09:05 PM

I'm scarred for life on that one.

Cynthetiq 01-19-2010 02:00 PM

This was a refreshing read...

Quote:

Raid/PuG habits should be kept separate

by Matthew Rossi http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...writer_rss.gif Jan 18th 2010 at 6:00PM
I want my frost badges. At this point, I'm working on completing my T10 set (so close) and waiting for the gates to come down in ICC is so slow and maddening, I basically run the daily random every single day on my three dedicated Alliance side 80's (my Horde toons are again in a neglect cycle, my tauren cries at night when no one can hear) for primordial saronite and of course, that annoying Tier. Then of course the non-set gear that has crazy high armor on it to switch in for specific fights. And of course after that there's DPS gear for offset. So basically, I need a lot of emblems and ICC just doesn't provide enough running it on 10 and 25 weekly. Imagine me as a bitter old man sidling up to the emblem bar and yelling "Hit me!" at this point.

Last night I and a couple of guildmates signed up for a frost run and we ended up with two DPS and popped into Azjol-Nerub. I'd got myself a new fist weapon on my shammy and wanted to punch things in the face. Half way through the run, the healer sent me a tell asking me to inspect the DPS warrior we'd picked up. And yes, he was DPSing in Prot, with all of his talent points in the protection tree, in a mix of tanking and PvP gear. Yes, his DPS was low (I believe the proper phrase would be 'ridiculously low') and yes, he ran and pulled Hadronox instead of letting the person signed up to tank do it, and brought all the adds over as well. I was all set to blow a gasket at him, when I realized that this was a PuG. I'd never see the guy again. I was putting out enough DPS to cover for him, as was the hunter in the group. We burned down Hadronox, I briefly explained to the guy what the adds did, he apologized as this was all still very new to him and it was his first 80.

This led to a brief discussion while we were heading down to kill Anub'arak.

If you raid a lot, you get used to certain things. People are expected to be familiar with their class, their role, and the talents used to accomplish said role. You keep your gear for your main role current and also it's a good idea to keep your offspec gear current as well (you never know when you'll be switching). You know the fights as best you can. These are almost hardwired assumptions that build up into dogma over time.

They have no place in the five man random PuG.

I am not arguing that you shouldn't do your best if you're running a pick up group. I'm arguing that you have no reason to hold the other four people to a standard of play they haven't signed up for or agreed to. Clicking a role in the random window is not the same thing as filling out a guild application. A lot of these players are learning the game by playing it: it's not fair to assume they're reading theorycrafting sites and working their gear always with an eye towards maximum performance. The prot warrior in the run I just mentioned? He was a decent guy, picked up WoW last year, plays it when he's got time. He heard that Prot was OP for PvP so he went Prot, doesn't know the talents very well (he played some in BC but then they changed everything on him) and was very excited when I mentioned various sites he could go to for better information on spec and gear.

Not every 'bad' player is really a bad player. Some are just players. (Some of course are very very bad. Then again, there are very very bad players in raid guilds progressing through content. It happens.) These people didn't make any kind of commitment the way raiders are expected to just because they signed up to a random with you. Would it be nice if they knew not to stand in poison clouds or to know which attack they should be using in their rotation? Yes, it would. But going crazy and posting meters and ranting accomplishes nothing.

Also, to be honest, sometimes it's the 'elite raiders' that hold heroics back. Take, for instance, the DPS who brags about putting out 7k DPS in Halls of Lightning. First off, the mobs in HoL die so fast that the only way you're putting out 7k DPS is by attacking before the tank has even sneezed at them, which means the tank (often me) hates you with the fire and intensity of a thousand suns. Yes, I managed to pick them up with Challenging Shout and spammed every threat move I could even think of while desperately trying to generate enough rage to keep it up, thanks for the carpal tunnel syndrome. We don't need 7k DPS from one player to get through HoL. Secondly, that 7k DPS was only achieved because things died before other DPS could hit them, because again, you're attacking before the tank. You're not a good player because you put out more DPS than everyone else when you do it in this manner.

5k DPS and remembering where MD or Tricks are, using utility abilities, and waiting for the tank to pull is vastly preferred to going hog freaking wild, popping all your cooldowns as soon as they're up and otherwise being a jerk, much less then posting your hyperinflated DPS meter and waving it in the faces of the DPS you consider sub-par. This goes for tanks, too. I've been the tank putting out more DPS than the undergeared DPS in the run I'm on. You know what? Nobody cares. You're highly geared, that dude's using the quest axe from Zul'Drak. Cut him some slack, and in so doing, cut yourself some slack.

You are not there to police everyone else's gear, spec and playstyle. You are not there to have to micromanage every aspect of the game. You are there for emblems, maybe some gear, and frankly it's too much time and work to expect everyone you PuG with to play the way you do. You'll be happier if you just play, ditch when you just can't take it anymore (people would much rather wait for a replacement than listen to a tirade about how awesome you are) and wait out the time until your next. Or go do something else. People who sign up to a random didn't sign up for boot camp in your private How to WoW seminar. If you can't be helpful, at least be polite. Getting worked up over a random PuG just ends up with you worked up. You'll probably never see those people again. If you end up with a hunter who tells you he doesn't have MD because he hasn't been to a trainer since level 60, it's really not going to magically fix things to scream at him over it. If he'll listen to you and you can explain what he can do to improve, great. If not, let it go.

This is a lesson I struggle with: let it go. Your expectations of other players who you do not know, have never played with, and may never see again simply cannot be as high as when you work progression raid content or blood will squirt out of your ears and nose. It's messy. There's nothing wrong with trying to be helpful: if you see a player making a mistake you might have made yourself once upon a time you can certainly try and politely suggest ways they can improve, if they want to. But don't expect them to do so simply because you say so, and don't get invested in it: they don't know you either. They don't owe you any more than you owe them, their best effort to clear the run smoothly.

Trust me -- in the long run, your blood pressure will thank you.

Frosstbyte 01-19-2010 02:40 PM

Rossi posts that now, but if you go back and look at his other posts regarding his experiences with the random dungeon system, he's not nearly so refreshing. The guy knows his classes, but he definitely thinks about playing WoW at a truly unhealthy level of precision, and he's complained a number of times about people not living up to that level since 3.3 came out.

WoW.com is kind of grating on me these days. I've been a daily reader for over a year now, but some of their columnists and recent personnel changes are starting to wear thin.

Shauk 01-19-2010 02:53 PM

I know I have like zero credibility when it comes to saying this game sucks ass, now that I've played it for years on end, and quit several times over. But really when you pull your head out of the ass that is "World of Warcraft" and look at it externally, you just want to go in to a fucking rage and strangle these mouth breathing retards for devoting so much time to writing posts about nothing, no end in sight.

I guess I still just have some pent up issues about this game and how it's seemingly stolen everything I held dear in my life from me, relationships, family, friendships, all of which were healthy, which quickly became deprioritized by people addicted to this game, instead of hanging out, movie nights, gettogethers, in person interaction, we're left as secondary objectives in their real life quest logs.

I just wish I could get my friends back sometimes.

the fact that this thread is 75 pages long should be very telling about how much of a priority it is to some people, that it's important enough to discuss in detail with your peers, because misery loves company.

Not trying to sound holier than thou, I'm sorry if I do. You all may have different perceptions on the value of your time and how that time is spent, but my priority is reality based activities and friendships. Because of that, I'm not raider material now. Thus the game lost it's appeal to me, because the end game is all about raiding and little else.

Cynthetiq 01-19-2010 08:36 PM

I beg to differ. I have a very healthy and active social life and still play a very good amount of warcraft.

I was at the theater seeing Rock of Ages on Sunday, after going to visit my aunt in NJ, the day before that was a birthday party also in NJ.

Tonight I had dinner in Long Island trying to generate some business. Tomorrow, I have another event to go to my MIL got us tickets to see James Spader on Broadway.

I raid 2 nights a week, that's it. I play when the rest of my time permits.

chaaa 01-20-2010 08:29 AM

I just got a reminder email from tilted, great to remember the resource.
Saw the gaming forum, found WoW.
I have my account on right now, gonna probably play till the next expansion comes out if it's not much farther off.
If anyone is on Garrosh, the Horde side. Drop me a hey. Would be nice to connect up with anyone from titled.
I've been using the dungeon finder for random LichKing dungeon 5man runs. Using the pvp que to run battlegrounds and stuff.
Hope to find someone else on my side of Garrosh 8)
Name "Chamunga"
80 horde shaman, ehancement/restoration duel-talents.


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