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Old 06-03-2003, 05:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4 Pit Bulls Maul FPL Meter Reader

http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/sto...03-110640.html

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PORT ST. JOHN, Fla. -- A 56-year-old Florida Power and Light meter reader is in critical condition after being attacked by several pit bull dogs as she walked through a Brevard County, Fla. neighborhood, according to Local 6 News.

Police said that the woman was mauled by the dogs in the 7000 block of Amsbury Road at about 8 a.m.

Animal Control officials believe the dogs apparently jumped a 4-foot fence at a home in the neighborhood and then began biting her head.

The victim was able to somehow break free from the dogs and ran to her truck, Local 6 News reported. She drove away from the scene but eventually stopped a short time later, got out of the truck and began to scream.

Joe Fisher saw her and administered first aid.

"I didn't want to lay her down because when I pulled her hair back on one side, her ear was completely missing and it was dangling in what hair she had left," Fisher said.

Local 6 News reported that the woman lost her right ear and a large piece of her scalp.

She was transported to Holmes Regional Medical Center in critical condition, according to Local 6 News.

The apparent owner of the dog has received about $650 in fines in connection with the incident, according to the report.
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Old 06-03-2003, 06:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Seems a little light on the fine side. I realize that he had a four foot fence, so the owner did what they thought was necessary, but the results were pretty severe. Make sure those dogs are dead...and soon.
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Old 06-03-2003, 06:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You can NOT trust dogs liek that...Definatly time to have 'em put down....
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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put the owner in jail for a year. You shouldn't own dogs like that, especcially with a wimpy 4 foot fence.
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The dogs will get blamed,as they should,however the owner is responsible in part for the mentality of the dogs. Really now,does one need 4 pitbulls. Were they trained to attack anyone that slightly resembles the uniforms of law enforcement? Pay the fine then kill'em all.
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Old 06-03-2003, 07:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i just remebered something that happened to me invovling a dog.

there was a bunch of us riding bikes just around my neighborhood, and we got past this one house that had a baby pincher, i looked back and i just remeber seeing this dog jump over this little deck railing they had, and that dog started to chase us, scared the hell out of me....i was like 9 maybe, and i remeber it running right past me and past my brother and chase after the guy that was in the front, although it didnt bite anyone, but it really scared me.
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Old 06-03-2003, 09:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm gonna get flamed like '76 Pinto on this one. Pit Bulls need to be banned and the breed eradicated. That said, these animals are an unpredictable breed and, in my opinion, dangerous as hell. Owning one of these animals is like leaving a loaded .357 on the floor of a daycare center...it's <b><i><u>asking</b></i></u> for tradgedy to ensue. Here in Omaha there have been <u>numerous</u> Pit Bull attacks. Always on the news clip is some mullett sportin', Walmart shoppin', NASCAR watchin' (sorry race fans), stained t-shirt wearin', Pabst Blue Ribbon swillin', trailer livin' refuse of the universe saying to the reporters that "He was always such a good dog. Real friendly...never bothered nobody." [fade to the blood soaked sidewalk] If further proof is needed of the need to eliminate the Pit Bull breed, just ask the Florida Power and Light meter reader for her opinion. Or, for that matter, anyone that's had a child killed, screaming in agony, while being mauled to death by one of these spawns of Satan. It's happened in Omaha on several occasions. O.K...flame away. Just don't acuse me of being an animal hater. I love my Shelty almost as much as my kids, and the cat's kinda cool, too. Oh, and btw, "Pit Bull Nazi" has kinda been overdone as well, just to let you know.
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Old 06-03-2003, 10:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree completely with Bill O'Rights. But I'd like to add Rottweilers to that list. I'd also like mandatory life-long counselling for anyone who owns any of these animals. Say what you want, but there is absolutely something wrong in the heads of anyone who chooses to own these types of dogs or any other dangerous animals.
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Old 06-03-2003, 10:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sometimes it's the breed, sometimes it's the owner, sometimes it's both. But either way, there are a lot of innocent victims of maulings out there. How about the dog mauling in San Francisco that killed a woman? The dog, a presa canario, ripped out the woman's throat, completely unprovoked. For those of you who don't remember:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/0314...og_attack.html

Either way, we're doing a great disservice to these victims and innocent animals by letting the owners of these attack dogs go unpunished. In my mind, severe fines are not enough, and neither is a civil wrongful death suit. I would like to see community service done. That seems appropriate.
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Old 06-04-2003, 04:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm gonna get flamed like '76 Pinto on this one. Pit Bulls need to be banned and the breed eradicated. That said, these animals are an unpredictable breed and, in my opinion, dangerous as hell. Owning one of these animals is like leaving a loaded .357 on the floor of a daycare center...it's <b><i><u>asking</b></i></u> for tradgedy to ensue. Here in Omaha there have been <u>numerous</u> Pit Bull attacks. Always on the news clip is some mullett sportin', Walmart shoppin', NASCAR watchin' (sorry race fans), stained t-shirt wearin', Pabst Blue Ribbon swillin', trailer livin' refuse of the universe saying to the reporters that "He was always such a good dog. Real friendly...never bothered nobody." [fade to the blood soaked sidewalk] If further proof is needed of the need to eliminate the Pit Bull breed, just ask the Florida Power and Light meter reader for her opinion. Or, for that matter, anyone that's had a child killed, screaming in agony, while being mauled to death by one of these spawns of Satan. It's happened in Omaha on several occasions. O.K...flame away. Just don't acuse me of being an animal hater. I love my Shelty almost as much as my kids, and the cat's kinda cool, too. Oh, and btw, "Pit Bull Nazi" has kinda been overdone as well, just to let you know.



I agree with you completely and wholeheartedly.
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Old 06-04-2003, 05:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with those of you who are for stricter control of these animals...

Dogs of certain breeds were bred for very specific reasons and were NOT originally intended to be kept as house pets.

I think it's ridiculous that stronger controls haven't been placed on the ownership of such breeds. You can't have say, a mountain lion, as a pet in a residential area for a reason... a very good reason i might add...
the same should go for Pitt Bulls and other dangerous breeds.

*my 2 cents*

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Old 06-04-2003, 06:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I've noticed a ratio of stupidity / white trash to ownership of Pit Bulls, Rotweilers, etc in my area. This of course won't hold for everywhere but it is so obvious is this area that it is a running joke. Find a Pit Bull owner around here and he will be a slack jawed, mouth breather every time. White trash in the area seem to think that these animals somehow make them cool.

Who knows, maybe that is cool for white trash. I just know that I will shoot any on sight that get on my property.

And their little dogs to.
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Old 06-04-2003, 07:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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BillORights, I guess you didn't get flamed after all, I agree wholeheartedly!
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Old 06-05-2003, 05:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That woman must be tough as shit to have actually escaped the jaws of 4 pit bulls... Those things bite and just don't let go. I'm glad this wasn't SF all over again, but the owner of those dogs needs to be sentanced to at least 5 years for attempted manslaughter, a $650 is just a slap on the wrist.

It should be illegal to even own a pit bull, it's like owning a double barrel shot gun that goes off randomly and then walking down main street with it over your shoulder. In fact, pit bulls as a breed need to be systematicaly removed.
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Old 06-05-2003, 10:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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damnit. will people never learn?

there is no way in hell a four foot fence can keep a pitbull in. that's just stupid.

i feel terrible for the woman and the dogs both - the dogs were obviously not raised correctly.

There are a few rules of thumbs to owning large dogs.

1) look at theirr geenes. go back three generations. if the lines are none-violent studies suggest the pup will have little to do with violence not given by natural instinct - in other words, they are no automaticly fight dogs.

2) People should have to get a license for such creatures to prove you can handle them.

3) if you're dumb enough o have a four foot fence to keep the dogs in, you really don't need a dog. they are smarter than you.

4) You should be required to spend no less than half an hour per day to work with the dogs and reinforce play and obediance.


The dogs are unwilling victems. they do what they are bred to do. They are slaves to the master's whims and most of the time the master is not prepared to care and raise these dogs correctly.

pits, mastiffs, rots, german shepherds and what not are not the kind of dog to 'own and take care of when I feel like it". They can be highly dangerous and over protective.

as for making a dog illegal. that's sad. we have several completely irresponsible dipshits who do not do their jobs as owners, so it should be illegal for everyone? thats incomphrehensable. its like taking the guns from Lebell because some idiot shot himself. there is no intelligent logic there, just a temporary 'cure'.

btw, ifyou live in Ne w York and are 17 or younger and own a pitbul you are breaking the law.

we need to start teaching kids to be responsible somehow so this kind of thing will be much less likely to happen. we can't make accidents not happen, but we can lower the risks....

what is sad is most people don't care about the dogs. they were not raised right and were in an enviroment not suited for them. they did their nature andn ow face death.

i say we chargge the owners heavily, not a slap on the wrist and start treating criminals as criminals.

as much as it breaks my heart (which is does) I do believe these pits should be put down unless there is someone e who takes in violent dogs for rehab and signs a waiver.

i'm ending the post now. sorry if sloppy, i am overly tired.
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
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As for making a dog illegal. that's sad. we have several completely irresponsible dipshits who do not do their jobs as owners, so it should be illegal for everyone? thats incomphrehensable. its like taking the guns from Lebell because some idiot shot himself. there is no intelligent logic there, just a temporary 'cure'.
Sorry, I fail to make the connection between an inanimate firearm, that a <b>person</b> has to physically handle to load, aim and fire...to a highly volitile sentient species. I do not, have not nor ever will deny that the owners of these animals bear at least as much of the blame as the animals themselves. In fairness, however, I do concede that there are <b>some</b> responsible owners of these animals. I personally believe that they are few and far between. The majority of th owners are white trash, trying to look tough through the animal...or are meth dealers (makers) using them as guard dogs. No, I'm sorry, these animals must be destroyed. The price is just to high for someone to look "tough".
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Old 06-05-2003, 11:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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comparing a pitbull to a gun was to just give an example of a very dangerous tool to be used in defense or offense.

as I said earlier, maybe people should have to get licenses to own such power houses. all animal enthusiast that I know would be willing to do such. as far as puting them down in mass... that's just a way to justify laziness and slaughter. it should not be permitted.

and the 'white trash' aspect fails to deliver any reality to me.

as a status symbol, i agree full heartedly. a lot of idiots have dogs (especially pts, rots and mastiffs) as a 'status symbol'. basically a way to say "Hey. I'm one of those all muscled, no brain badassess who love to show off my extreeme lack of intelligence!!!".

it is an incredably sad thing. I think people should get licensed to own large snakes and monitors also (monitor to the unknown is a species of l izard similiar to the Komodo Dragon - just many times smaller) should require a license. I think if most people just want a 'awesome beast' to show off, giving them some required effort may make them think of some other way...



i'm just trying to say this: the dogs did indeed do the crime... but they were made that way. they were doing 'their job' (a phrase people use when they do something incredibly moronic and need an excuse to get off clean). the dogs are victems, also..... it sucks.


lets start puting the owners down, too. that may discourage people some.
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Old 06-05-2003, 12:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Alright WhoaitsZ, I see where you are coming from, and we're <i>almost</i> in agreement.

But, as you yourself say <b><i> "but they were made that way. they were doing 'their job'" </b></i>. That tells me that these animals were bred to be nothing but brutal vicious killers. Would you trust <b>your</b> child to be around one? Or <b>any</b> child for that matter. I wouldn't, and don't. Joe citizen does need to have one of these dogs "doing it's job".

Do we require <b>all</b> dog owners to be licensed? Actually that might not be such a bad idea...I'll have to ponder that one for awhile. Or do we simply require that the owners of predetermined breeds to be licensed? What possible need, barring perhaps Law Enforcement or the military, does anyone need with an animal like this? Get a Dachsund.

Also, in as much as I believe in the right of all Americans to own/carry firearms, that does not mean to say that I think that you should be able to posess an assault rifle with armour piercing ammunition. I hunt, and deer don't wear kevlar. Same principle here. You want a gun/dog, fine by me. But, limits need to be set on what is available to you. Not to protect you...but to protect me, and my family. I want to feel safe walking down the sidewalk, without the fear of the possibility of having my throat ripped out.
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I agree that licensing is necessary. If that didn't work, I wouldn't hesitate to say that we need to get rid of them.
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But, as you yourself say <b><i> "but they were made that way. they were doing 'their job'" </b></i>. That tells me that these animals were bred to be nothing but brutal vicious killers. Would you trust <b>your</b> child to be around one? Or <b>any</b> child for that matter. I wouldn't, and don't. Joe citizen does need to have one of these dogs "doing it's job".
Let me correct what I meant.

the two dogs spoken of 'did their job', not the whole breed. unfortunately most are trained to kill for 'their job' and some really will have to be destroyed.

however, as stated before, if you do research on their genetics and know they've not been taught aggressive qualities I would trust the dog with my kids. Also note, however, I am reluctant to leave a child with any animal or dog due to them getting hurt accidently and i'd really, really stress to NOT leave a small child with an animal. The kid will be protected and he won't go where he shouldn't, but the kid could be easily trampled, also.

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Do we require <b>all</b> dog owners to be licensed? Actually that might not be such a bad idea...I'll have to ponder that one for awhile. Or do we simply require that the owners of predetermined breeds to be licensed? What possible need, barring perhaps Law Enforcement or the military, does anyone need with an animal like this? Get a Dachsund.
Well, for the sake of both animals and people, sure. License all dogs.

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Also, in as much as I believe in the right of all Americans to own/carry firearms, that does not mean to say that I think that you should be able to posess an assault rifle with armour piercing ammunition. I hunt, and deer don't wear kevlar. Same principle here. You want a gun/dog, fine by me. But, limits need to be set on what is available to you. Not to protect you...but to protect me, and my family. I want to feel safe walking down the sidewalk, without the fear of the possibility of having my throat ripped out.
good point..... but it has no bearing whatsoever on anything i said. I explained a simple metaphor I created. I will not explain this fact again.

and as a cruel smile comes across my face i think. ahhhhhhh. it seems the hunter is scared of being hunted...


its is good we are agreeing.

it is sad that the majority of the citizens of the US choose to remain ignorant..
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I agree that licensing is necessary. If that didn't work, I wouldn't hesitate to say that we need to get rid of them.
sounds wonderful to me. too bad it isn't law.

one problem, however, is it would take many. many years to make logical conclusions. however, these dogs and their actions didn't happen over night, it didn't begin fully until people started fuckign with their genes and bred them to murder.

it never ceases to amaze me, the ammount of evil men do.
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Old 06-05-2003, 05:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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