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Old 11-12-2005, 05:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kissing cousins

I searched and did not really find a similar thread.

So: if you share a great grand parent with someone that you wish to fornicate with, how close does that put you to being "a redneck"*?

*disclaimer: not intended to be derogatory towards rednecks.
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Old 11-12-2005, 06:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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ok....since my family lives in WV, this should be an easy question. I'll go through it logically....

Great, Great Grandparent has kids.
Kids get married to other people and have kids. (Great grandparent and grandparents)
Grand parents are cousins, making them your 3rd cousins.
As the line goes down, I'm thinking these would be your 4th or 5th cousins.

My conclusion is that the genes between you should be different enough that no wrong should come should you get serious and procreate.

Now some may say...oooo, you're related stay away. However, most people can't follow their family tree to Great-Great grandparents, especially if there were many kids born to them and down the line. So some people may be with a distant relative and not even know it. However, I may not be the best expert since my family has double cousins and I got hit on at the only family reunion I was dragged to.

Tough choice, but it's your life and I've learned not to pass judgment because I live in a glass house

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Old 11-12-2005, 06:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If you share a great grandparent with someone, you are second cousins. I believe that laws in most states prohibit marriage between first cousins.
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That doest seem so bad Doos, I say thumbs up and fornicate.

However if you think Possum is "The Other White Meat", you just might be a redneck.
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Dude, fuck the whole taboo about making love with cousins. I think you should be free to go out and kiss whatever cousins as you want, whether it'll be 1st, 2nd, 5th, 200th cousin, it's all the same.

I only say that cuz I have hot cousins, not ugly ones as everybody does
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I guess in genetical terms it wouldn't be that bad, but knowing that they are my "cousins" would keep me away.

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Old 11-12-2005, 11:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Actualy, kids of your parents siblings, are your 1st cousins, grand parents 2nd, and great grand parents 3rd.

I dont think i even know any of my 3rd cousins.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It just seems super redneck to fornicate with a blood relative. Now, I have hooked up with a cousin,,,,,,,but it was a cousin through marriage. <~ that even seems redneck!!!!

Does it not bother you that you are blood related?
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Actualy, kids of your parents siblings, are your 1st cousins, grand parents 2nd, and great grand parents 3rd.
Close, but the children of your grandparents are your uncles and aunts. Cousins share a grandparent, second cousins share a great grandparent, third cousins share a great great grandparent, etc.

Additionally, your cousins children are your first cousins once removed...

Edit: WTF "the children of you grandparents are you uncles and aunts"?
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Click here for a detailed explanation of blood relations from the site Cousin Couples.

My Genetics professor gave us that link back in my undergrad days when we discussed genetic diseases and consanguineous marriages (I hope I spelled it right).
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Old 11-12-2005, 06:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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While I think it is not the norm, but if you two are into it, go for it. Just realize it can be awkward at future family reunions.
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Old 11-12-2005, 11:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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While I think it is not the norm, but if you two are into it, go for it. Just realize it can be awkward at future family reunions.
Reminds me of the article regarding the brother-sister couple. The brother was thrown in jail I believe? Either way though, don't have kids. You're potentially harming them (I could be wrong about this, since 2nd cousins might not have difficulties?)

I'll admit that I did have a crush on one of my cousins when I was really young. But that quickly ended when I realized why I liked her.
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Old 11-13-2005, 03:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You're third cousins and, really, there's nothing wrong with it. Genetically speaking, you're pretty much fine except for some very rare possibilities. (Of course, I don't have a PhD, so here's a grain of salt to take along with my post). Ethically, I see nothing wrong with it either. To be honest, I have some third cousins with whom I'd be willing to do the same, if they were interested and if I were single. Of course, I only see them twice a year at most and never talk to them...but boy are they hot. And I've thought it ever since I hit adolescence.
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Old 11-13-2005, 05:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Reminds me of the article regarding the brother-sister couple. The brother was thrown in jail I believe? Either way though, don't have kids. You're potentially harming them (I could be wrong about this, since 2nd cousins might not have difficulties?)

I'll admit that I did have a crush on one of my cousins when I was really young. But that quickly ended when I realized why I liked her.
Yes but to me cousins are allowed in the bible and thus acceptable to me. Not what I would say my preference but if you love each other, etc...
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Yes but to me cousins are allowed in the bible and thus acceptable to me. Not what I would say my preference but if you love each other, etc...
Uhhhh, father-daughter is allowed in the bible...
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I remember that 20/20 did a report on this. I'm sure there's a transcript of it out there. The birth defect rate from first cousins was fairly low when compared to a non-related couple.

The best benefit that I see from marrying into your own family, is that there are no new family of inlaws to deal with. They're just the same aunts and uncles and cousins as before (they just look at you two differently).
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Just for the record, it'll definitely be nookie and no children. I think i'm allergic to the idea of progeny. Thankfully that does not mean that I am allergic to latex.
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Old 11-13-2005, 03:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Uhhhh, father-daughter is allowed in the bible...
Not in my edition. Let me rephrase in the torah, it is not allowed, I only know for sure about the Jewish religion.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:21 AM   #19 (permalink)
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You're second cousins. Probably legal, but probably gonna be frowned on by most folks. You could always fornicate, but don't expect to date, or get married without raising some eyebrows.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:39 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Actually, I believe that you're 3rd cousins. In most states that is perfectly legal. I live in Wisconsin and my uncle married his 3rd cousin.

Heck in Georgia you can marry your first cousin. My boss has family in Georgia and she gets really uncomfortable at family reunions when all of her first cousins hit on her.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:37 AM   #21 (permalink)
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According to the Google search I just did, if you have GREAT grandparents in common, and you are the same level of descendent, then you are 2nd cousins.

From: Ancestry.com
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What Is a Cousin
Let's begin with a definition. The Random House Webster's College Dictionary defines cousin as "the son or daughter of an aunt or uncle; one related by descent in a diverging line from a known common ancestor." In other words, a cousin is really a descendant of a parallel family line and you both descend from a common ancestor.

Two people who are the same number of generations distant from a common ancestor are same level cousins. Consider the following rule of thumb:


FIRST COUSINS share a grandparent in common.

SECOND COUSINS share a great-grandparent in common.

THIRD COUSINS share a great-great-grandparent in common.

And so on.


In other words, the first, second, third, etc., cousin designation tells you how many generations you have to go back in order to get to the generational level which shares parents.
That relationship doesn't seem too close to me. At that point, there are 8 great-grandparents, with at least 4 different genetic lines of variation of descendants. You only have 1/8th of your genes in common at that point. Not really a concern. Are you really that related and connected to your grandmother's brother's grandchildren? Meh.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:59 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I fucked one of my cousins and let me say for the record that it was fucking great and if any guys out there pass up an opportunity to get with a hot chick because of silly detail like being related to them then they aren't thinking clearly. Just use a condom and keep $300 in the bank for an abortion if it comes to that. Call me a redneck if you want but I have no regrets. In fact, the taboo aspect of it makes it even better. It used to be just having sex any way except missionary was a big deal, but now you really have to push the limits in order to do something naughty.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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ok, in Portugal marriage is allowed between first cousins. Call it what you want but it's not at all frowned upon - I mean not even a second thought. And no we're not all inbred. I know a few couples who are first cousins and they have kids and their kids are perfectly normal. So this is just sanctimonious BS.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:08 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I say go for it. I'm from a small town. Most people marry someone from their high school, THE HIGH SCHOOL, and settle down in this area and raise their families. Their kids go to school and do the same. It has been going on for several generations. I'm sure some couples are much closer on the family tree than many find comfortable. Makes for a tight community though, even if everyone knows your personal shit.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:53 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:37 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Where I live there are a lot of family trees that look like telephone poles. Everyone is related. I think how you answer this question depends on where you live, and ultimately if you have hot, bangable cousins.

I don't think you should be tapping your first cousin, and I'm even sketchy about second, but third, you're in the clear.

When I saw this thread title, I thought it was going to be a kiss and tell about who fooled around with their cousins when they were younger...and that is NOT why I'm here...honest....
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:31 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I guess it all depends on how large you comunity is. Life in the big city, there are soooo many people that you can afford to be picky. I met this columbian gal in L.A. who'll only date columbians. It's a big city, so she can do that. In a small town, on the other hand, there'll be like 5 people you can go out with. And if 3 of them have fleas, and the other 2 are you cousins, well, what are you gonna do...
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:25 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2005, 01:34 AM   #29 (permalink)
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for me, it would depend on how well i knew the cousin in question. i've grown up with most of my first cousins, so fucking them would just be really wierd to me. if we were pretty much strangers, i would probably go for it. i definitely wouldn't want a relationship with a first cousin though.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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What if she is your cousin only because she happened to be adopted by your aunt and uncle, technically she is my first cousin and smokin hot, but in reality not blood related at all do I dare tap it?
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Actually, according to the definition (shares a grandparent), that would make her a random stranger, totally unrelated by blood.

For instance, suppose you're a 17 male (just so you'd still be living at home), and your single dad remarries a widow, with a 17 year old smoking hot daughter. She's now your step-sister, but totally unrelated by blood. Is it wrong to hook up with her? There's no blood relation to stop you, just a marital convention that says she's "related."
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I fucked one of my cousins and let me say for the record that it was fucking great and if any guys out there pass up an opportunity to get with a hot chick because of silly detail like being related to them then they aren't thinking clearly. Just use a condom and keep $300 in the bank for an abortion if it comes to that. Call me a redneck if you want but I have no regrets. In fact, the taboo aspect of it makes it even better. It used to be just having sex any way except missionary was a big deal, but now you really have to push the limits in order to do something naughty.
Oh... wow.

I'm sorry, but does anyone else find this post just a little bit callous? Hilarious, but still callous.
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Old 11-19-2005, 04:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Oh... wow.

I'm sorry, but does anyone else find this post just a little bit callous? Hilarious, but still callous.
Indeed... That is a bit callous.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:13 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I believe first cousins have a 1% chance to have a birth defect as a result of pregnancy.

First cousins, depending on your family, would probably be really weird if they got together.

2nd cousins may be the grey area, I've seen most of my 2nd cousins maybe 3 times in my 21 years.

I don't even know any of my 3rd cousins.

I'd say 3rd on out should be completely socially acceptable, 2nd is iffy depending on your family, and 1st would be really weird, but still legal.
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I searched and did not really find a similar thread.

So: if you share a great grand parent with someone that you wish to fornicate with, how close does that put you to being "a redneck"*?

*disclaimer: not intended to be derogatory towards rednecks.

Are you crazy, don't you know who their cousins are?
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Granted, while most people feel very morally against the act of incest, the incest taboo is in and of itself a socially constructed idealogy. The definitions of incest will vary from culture to culture, in this case, the first cousin taboo being the most prevalent because aside the immediate family, it is the next closest of kin. BUTTT since none of these apply to you and the only word thrown in there was 'cousin' I say do what makes you happy, just make sure your parents don't find out. =)
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:51 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I fucked one of my cousins and let me say for the record that it was fucking great and if any guys out there pass up an opportunity to get with a hot chick because of silly detail like being related to them then they aren't thinking clearly. Just use a condom and keep $300 in the bank for an abortion if it comes to that. Call me a redneck if you want but I have no regrets. In fact, the taboo aspect of it makes it even better. It used to be just having sex any way except missionary was a big deal, but now you really have to push the limits in order to do something naughty.
This sort of enthusiasm just makes my day! Good luck with that!
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I fucked one of my cousins and let me say for the record that it was fucking great and if any guys out there pass up an opportunity to get with a hot chick because of silly detail like being related to them then they aren't thinking clearly. Just use a condom and keep $300 in the bank for an abortion if it comes to that. Call me a redneck if you want but I have no regrets. In fact, the taboo aspect of it makes it even better. It used to be just having sex any way except missionary was a big deal, but now you really have to push the limits in order to do something naughty.
totally agree


EDIT: oh yeah, and evidentally a few of my cousins do, too
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:30 PM   #39 (permalink)
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In fact, the taboo aspect of it makes it even better. It used to be just having sex any way except missionary was a big deal, but now you really have to push the limits in order to do something naughty.
What ever happened to a catsuit, a strap-on, lots of lube, candles, whips and a snuff film? Those were the good old days...now fucking cousins, I think we've gone to far.
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