MrsRight41401

Hey y'all..

Wanted to see what you all think about a woman who is done having kids having plastic surgery to repair the damage done by pregnancy?

I'm 23 years old and I'm thinking of taking advantage of the Army's free plastic surgery program while we're still in...

You know, get the girls put back up where they belong and my tummy put back where it belongs... LOL


Rachel

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telekinetic

Is there a Mr. Right41401? I think it should be between you and him...if you are both in favor of it, then by all means.

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MageB420666

well, as for the breast surgery, go ahead and get them done if they are too droopy for you, but as for the tummy tuck.... Is it just loose skin or is it pudge? If its skin then your only option to get rid of it is surgery, but if it's just a little excess pudge that you'd rather not have then I'd suggest good old fashioned exercise to cure that problem, there is a change that plastic surgery can go wrong even with the best surgeon. And besides, if you exercise it of you could get that nice toned body look going for you.

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radioguy

Certainly take advantage of the military's offer! You're risking your life for us, get a boob job. It will make you feel better anyway.

For the tummytuck, I'm with MageB42. Excercise will make you feel better anyway, unless it's extra skin you want to get rid of.

Good luck and enjoy your new body!

CrossEyedLover

My wife is 25 and has had 3 kids in 4 years. Her poor boobs have literaly been destroyed. The unfortunate biological process of losing the fatty tissue while breast feeding has robbed her boobies of virtually any substance. She's to the point where she's embarrassed to be naked around me. A thought I find absurd since she is still a knockout to me(boobs ain't everything ya know!). I agreed that when the time came and we had the money, she could get a boob job. Hey, it works for both of us. It will help her fill out her shirts and give her self-esteem while it gives the gawkers more to stare at and me more to caress.

Go for it! Get the boob job.

As for the extra skin...go for that too. I had a friend have the surgery after he lost 200 lbs. It's scary to think of losing a pound or two of the body's largest organ, but once the healing is done you'll feel great about it.

Good Luck.

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MrsRight41401

Yeah - it's mostly skin I'm getting rid of with the tummy tuck. I had 2 kids in 2 years and both were delivered c-section which increases the extra skin. Okay - cool... lol My husband has given me hsi support but I wanted to hear from someone who wasn't gonna get to play with the new breasts...

Rachel

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maleficent

You've had two children, your body changes. I wouldn't call it "damage", that damage gave life to two beautiful children.

If it improves your self esteem do it for you, and only for you...

(oh, and extra skin, that's removed, is often donated to burn units for use in skin grafts)

but, on another note, I'm completely appalled that the US Army will pay for elective surgery. Especially plastic surgery, plastic surgery for scar coverage is one thing, but a boob job, that's just .... appalling...

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Yeah I have a close friend in the Army and he has never heard of that before. I wonder about it also......

YaWhateva

I would say yes on the boob job if you are just going to get them lifted. I would say a big fat no to the boob job if you are getting them bigger. In my opinion that doesnt look good.

sorry but me being such a science nerd, I have to say that the liver is the bodies largest organ. Sorry to be off topic.

back on topic, do whatever makes you feel best but like I said earlier, think lift not bigger.

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MageB420666

I have to agree with Ya Whateva, a lift is good. But even a good breast augmentation can still look noticably fake.

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Munku

The ARMY gives FREE Boob Jobs? Wow.. I'm gonna get a few people enlisted! :-P

brianna

ok, i'm going to play the crunchy hippy that would make my mommy (one hell of a crunchy hippy herself!) so proud.

you should love your body for what it is and (even more so) for what it's done for you -- it's given you 2 children and provided you with the ability to nurture them both literally and figuratively. it is unfortunate that our society cannot accept the natural changes that take place in a women's body as she ages (nevermind if she's had children or not) but the only way to change this is to defy it. there is NO REASON for you to be embarrassed of a little droop in your tummy or your breasts, they got that way doing their job! and i see no reason to risk your life (plastic surgery is a major medical procedure) for the sake of society's silly vanity. eat healthy, exercise, love your kids, show your husband what a great lover you are, and get naked in front of the mirror everyday and tell yourself how beautiful you are.

fhqwhgads

Sorry bro...the skin is considered an organ, and is the largest.

DEI37

We've discussed the sme thing. I have no problem with a simply lift for them. They were big enough before, so I don't really want that. If they get a little bigger, I'm obviously NOT gonna complain, but that isn't the reason I would have/let her do it.

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YaWhateva

sorry skin is epithelial tissue.

edit: dude i looked it up and I guess you are right, I see websites saying that skin is not an organ and skin is an organ. In every physiology and anatomy book I have ever seen though, including the med school physiology book I am reading right now, it says that skin is definitely not an organ. It, as a whole, is a tissue, and liver is the largest organ in the human body. But then some medical websites I just went to say it is an organ. They should just make up their minds.

sorry to hijack this thread, back on topic now.

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Carno

Nope, skin is definitely an organ.

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Pellaz

A note on elective plastic surgery provided by the military, for the few people that have wondered:

Until recently, the army would preform these procedures for soldiers who had 'deep rooted phsychological insecurities' or whatever. Obviously, this was a joke, since anyone could portray that that wanted the surgery. The military finaly realized this earlier in the year, and opened up elective surgeries under the basis that it provides needed practice for their doctors. Oddly (and luckily for the soldiers going under the knife electively), most stateside 'military' surgeons are civilian contractors right now.

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MrsRight41401

Like I said earlier a lot of this is because of health issues and not just the esthetic reasons. Yeah - I don't like the extras skin but it really comes down to the HORRIBLE eczema I have. I get it on my nipples, tummy and legs. The tummy tuck would take care of the majority of the stuff on my tummy as would the lift.

I also have back issues that the extra weight/ skin is making worse - but that's another issue. I eat healthy and I exercise daily. I don't know. I have to get approved by Tricare and we'll see if that happens.

Rachel

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StickODynomite

Rachel, just make sure you do TONS of research (on the risks, WHO will be doing the procedure--sometimes residents do most of the work). The surgeons that the military has aren't the best, although that's what they want you to believe (my stepfather is proof of that..now he has a 4yr old son b/c they didn't do a vasectomy right). Make sure that you know a lot about the surgeon and the anesthesiologist doing the anesthesia... that's super important.. they keep you alive.

Other than that, good luck..

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uptown

Ok,you go ahead and do that,however, I think I can safely say that most of us mothers who ended up with sagging flapjack tits would be lining up in droves if we could get free plastic surgery to fix the problem.

MrsRight41401

Oh heck yeah - do I ever know that. You should have seen my c-section... it was HORRIBLE. However, the base we're at doesn't have a plastic surgeon so I get to go to a civillian plastic surgeon and I have been doing research and I have a friend who had one of them do her reconstruction after a mastectomy and the doctor did an amazing job - so I've chosen her to do my surgery.

I'm excited - now to get the referral and then I should be well on my way.

Rachel

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Prince

I could not have said it better. I agree with this 100%. I'm really tightarsed when it comes to plastic surgery. I don't believe it should be publicly available without a proper medical reason. If your face is turned into mashed potatoes in a car accident, then that's one thing. But getting bigger or firmer tits? I think it's sick, and essentially turns a woman's body from a natural thing of beauty into, well, something grotesque. Something fake. But that's just me, and I'm an idiot, so whatever.

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raiders4610

i think its ok to get a free boob job

Blackthorn

I agree with maleficent but I'd like to add that at the ripe young age of 23 you really should give your body a chance to recover. My ex had the same debate going in her head about trying to get back the cup size she lost after giving birth but thankfully she waited and it paid off. She was 38-D before the pregnancy then after nursing she dropped to a 36-C with a lot of the firmness gone. It took about a year and a half and she was just as beautiful along the way but over time she's now a 38-C and (last I saw ) she looks great and was very happy that she didn't have the surgery.

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adam

I think getting in better shape is a better cure than plastic surgery (and _much_ better for your body). That said, it's your body, do what feels right to you.

combatmedicjen

We don't get the free plastic surgery in the Guard, but if we did, I'd get laser eye surgery in a heartbeat!

But seriously, if you're not already in good physical shape, why not try toning your body? I went from a saggy 38C to a perky 34B by jogging and doing push-ups and sit-ups. Getting into good physical shape will help improve your overall physical appearance, including your boobs, tremendously. The less excess body fat you have, the perkier your boobs will look. And there's always padded bras, hehe.

And what if you do decide to have more kids? You're only 23, yes? Boob job = no more breast feeding, no? And surgery is painful and has tons of risks...

Ultimately, Rachel, it's totally your decision.

uptown

No amount of diet or exercise fixes,saggy,small flapjack stretch marked tits.Only surgery will fix the problem. Getting a low body fat level just means you'll have even saggier little flaps of skin covering pec muscle instead of normal,full,firm breasts.

chaoticmatter

hi Racheal- I don't know how old this thread is, but I would like to suggest that you consider permanence before deciding. If you are getting implants they are not permanent, and that may not worry you at age 23, but in 10-20 years you may view surgery differently. The risk of complications increses with every year you age! You would at some point have deteriorating silicone bags in your body, and insurance will not likely pay for removal unless you have cancer or infection. Implants are impermanent and not ever worth the risk and insecurity of your health and finances I would say. Don't rush into it. Good Luck....

uptown

I would advise that she get the surgery and simply start a small savings fund to have her implants replaced 10-15 yrs down the road if the need arises.

All you people talking about possible problems are forgetting that living with breasts that you feel are unsightly/disgusting can take a terrible toll on a person's self-esteem over the years.I can tell you there's no worse feeling than dieting/exercising religiously only to have breasts and/or a tummy that looks like hell. You end up looking dynamite in clothing but you look like crap once the clothing comes off, that can lead to some major bedrooms problems,particularly if you end up divorced and having to reenter the dating scene.

chaoticmatter

uptown- that is a great idea ! I never thought about planning for it finacially with an accout. That problem would be solved. What about the health risk of later surgery- if they are replaced you could end up still needing syrgeries at ages such as 43, 53, and 63....when surgery is more difficult to tolerate, and if they are not replaced at the 1st surgery- say 33 to 38ish what you have is an even greater mess than nature could make ( I mean the stretched skin and tissue loss)...and stil you may be thrown into the re-dating scene....personaly I would opt for just a lift. have a nice monday =)

combatmedicjen

For some people, maybe. uptown, I was simply offering a suggestion for her to try if she felt it might work. Everybody's body type is different, and exercise affects everybody differently. Also, getting into shape after a pregnancy is generally a good idea overall, for obvious health-related reasons.

And why is having less-than-perfect breasts such a horrible crime? Women who have had babies are SUPPOSED to sag a little! When I have kids I'm gonna point at my saggy titties and say, "Those are MINE -- I earned them! See that one (points to left boob)? That's little Johnny! And see this (points to right boob)? That's all little Janie!!" Well, something like that.

Rachel comes off as a pretty normal, adjusted person. She didn't seem overly depressed about her, what'd you call them, "saggy, small, flapjack, stretch-marked tits?" so why should she rush right into surgery? There are consequences, there is pain, and they will need further attention down the road when the Army is no longer around to pay for them. I just want her to consider other options along with surgery.

Question for Rachel: If the Army didn't offer the free plastic surgery, would you have seriously considered it otherwise? If you had to pay for it out-of-pocket, would you still want to do it? Just be sure that it's something you really, really want to do -- don't do it just because you can.

Once again, whatever you decide to do is completely up to you, and I hope your decision makes you happy

uptown

I know all about how getting into shape effects a woman's figure and for you to sit here and tout improved breast appearance as a benefit is more than a little misleading.

Go to any bodybuilding forum with a women's board and you'll see countless "what happened to my breast's" posts
from women who have achieved tremendous levels of fitness. numerous woman complaining that though the rest of their bodies look great their breasts look horrible, A small chested woman with post childbirth sagging pays a price for ultra low bodyfat, and that price is usually either
having horrid looking breasts that don't "match" the rest of her appearance or getting implants.

combatmedicjen

Why do you "know all about" it? I'm sorry, but I'm the one that actually dropped five dress sizes, 4" off my chest, 15lbs and one full cup size in two months. I know about how getting into shape affects a woman's figure. Getting into good physical condition improves your overall appearance, including your breasts. Believe it or not, you can control the size of your breasts, to a degree, with exercise. This is why female body builders to not have breasts. They simply worked them off. For you to recommend that surgery is the only way to improve your appearance frightens me.

I don't think Rachel wants to become a bodybuilder.

I have many friends and acquaintences who got back into shape after giving birth, and not one of them "[have] horrid looking breasts that don't 'match' the rest of her appearance." Why are you pushing so heavily for the "easy out" of plastic surgery? Why do you think that taking measures to improve your overall appearance and health is such a horrible idea?

chaoticmatter

the truth is always somewhere in the middle of a disageement and so if you think about it you will realize that every person's skin tone and body composition are different and there are endless combinations of muscle, fat, elastiscity, fluid, proportions, and collagen that will render no 2 results the same after weight loss. You 2 are probably on opposite ends of the genetic spectrum. It's not anything you can disagree with because it just is. I hope we get to find out the decision Racheal made...cya

uptown

I'm not saying that exercise and dropping bodyfat is a bad idea, what I am saying is that a postpartum woman who complaining of sag severe enough to be considering plastic surgery BEFORE she sets foot in a gym is not likely to see anything but MORE sagging if she works out,diets and lowers her body fat.

Remember,we cannot pick and choose where we shed body fat and sadly women who are small breasted to start with usually shed bodyfat in the breast area first..think of what the breast is made up of after all.

StickODynomite

Sweet !

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