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Old 08-26-2008, 10:16 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I thought we had discuss previously that BMI was an outdated way to tell if your healthy, overweight...etc? Or was that another measurement? I forget either way.

I agree with most of the comments, it is all personal preference when it comes to the opposite sex...or same sex if that is your bag. I've liked girls who are big, small, tall and short, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
If people had bothered to read the article I linked to in my post, they might find out there is a whole body of research out there that basically shows us that thin does not always equal healthy, and that BMI is NOT a good measurement of fitness or health:

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Old 08-26-2008, 10:19 AM   #42 (permalink)
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If people had bothered to read the article I linked to in my post, they might find out there is a whole body of research out there that basically shows us that thin does not always equal healthy, and that BMI is NOT a good measurement of fitness or health:
Sorry I'll make sure to read the entire article and posts before responding in the future.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:26 AM   #43 (permalink)
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If people had bothered to read the article I linked to in my post, they might find out there is a whole body of research out there that basically shows us that thin does not always equal healthy, and that BMI is NOT a good measurement of fitness or health:
Maybe I should rephrase it then. I'm not interested in dating someone who has unhealthy diet habits or that's physically lazy, especially if those behaviors/decisions are reflected in her appearance. I know plenty of women with 'healthy' physiques that have terrible diet and exercise habits, and I know some 'plus-size' women who are very responsible so far as diet and exercise. I'd be more interested in seeing the latter because not only is it something we could enjoy together, but it's a sign of attributes like maturity and discipline. Those score really high in my book.


Yes, yes, and yes, physically. C is probably near the cusp, but I could see myself dating someone in that shape.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:39 AM   #44 (permalink)
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How about:

Picture 1, girl A, B or C


Personally, I'd have a hard time deciding between B and C for my favorite. Probably B by a tiny margin, but C would be WAY ahead of A in my book. A woman is supposed to have some curves.

Obviously, being a healthy weight is important, but I'd rather a girl have 10lbs too many than 10lbs too few.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:42 AM   #45 (permalink)
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If I was single and at a party, I'd walk past A, maybe say "Hi" to B, and offer a drink to C in the hope that she'd talk to me.

I'm 6'2" and overweight; I have never been able to lust after skinny women for fear that I'd break them.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:42 AM   #46 (permalink)
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C is a no-go for me...unless i was seduced, but that different.

but off the bat, its gotta be B then A
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:47 AM   #47 (permalink)
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It isn't a case of being shallow; the moment I say "I don't want her because..." etc then I might stop myself and look around.

Personally I date dancers usually, usually contemporary; girls who are thin but not ballet thin, with legs. It just happens because of my social circles; plus I love a girl who can dance contemporary is hot. To me.

I was seeing a girl named Mel a month ago and she was kind of chubby but she was a horrible kisser and kind of judgemental so I ended it.

That's how I feel about it.
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:54 AM   #48 (permalink)
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C is a no-go for me...unless i was seduced...
Don't they all do that?
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:57 AM   #49 (permalink)
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haha! well if i look at it like that..

if i was going to be seduced id want to be seduced by B, then A, then C

C is still a possibility. Ais a probability, B is a definately
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:00 PM   #50 (permalink)
 
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Wow. Interesting responses. A looks downright sick to me, and B is not far behind her... but that's my bias. Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)

Personally, with ktsp's build being what it is (he's tall and thin), I'm very grateful for the meat and fat on my bones because otherwise, his pelvic bone would drill a hole in my thighs or ass every time I get pounded during sex. Cushion = good. I like having a body that can handle being fucked as hard as he can give it. If that means I'm a C, then bring it on!
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:04 PM   #51 (permalink)
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C is definitely the most attractive, then B, then A. A is still a bit too thin for me though.
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:09 PM   #52 (permalink)
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How about:

Picture 1, girl A, B or C

The sexiest one is B. However, I don't think I'd have much problem with C. A is too skinny for me to find attractive.

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This one's a plus-sized model. Would most consider her fat?
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I would.

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I can't believe this one is considered plus-sized ...
(Picture 3)


That's just insane.
Yeah, she's not fat fat, but she's not the Standard Model Skinny As Hell. Hence the label. I'd do her though.
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:48 PM   #53 (permalink)
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some it also depends the guy's build. I liked B a lot. If I had been a very tall well built, I may have liked C more
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:03 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)
I agree. Very interesting.

I think I searched images for "large curvy women" or somesuch and it was amongst the images. Go figure.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:07 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I happen to prefer the woman in the center, physically.

Still, they are clearly all models which might shift around the preferences. The third woman is much more beautiful than many women thinner than she.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:28 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Pic 1: I'd rank them B, A, C but C is still pretty. The better question is how much are they photoshopped?

Pic 2: Too big.

Pic 3: She looks fine (photoshop?) but I hate that hair. She's definitely plus sized, how much does the suit control her stomach?
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:11 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Wow. Interesting responses. A looks downright sick to me, and B is not far behind her... but that's my bias. Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)
See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.

As to the picture, it's B, then A, then C - but that's just personal taste and I wouldn't denigrate the heavier model in any way.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:14 PM   #58 (permalink)
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See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.
Typical double standard. That's how it always works.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:41 PM   #59 (permalink)
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A few nights ago I got in on the tail end of an old Real Sex episode on HBO. The topic dealt with a home made porn movie competition. From what I saw, many of the women were what our society would call fat. The way they were comfortable with presenting themselves on video, not only in a competition, but on an HBO series that would be seen by millions was the sexiest thing.

I'd rather experience a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality and who she is than something we have been conditioned to think is sexy.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:59 PM   #60 (permalink)
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A few nights ago I got in on the tail end of an old Real Sex episode on HBO. The topic dealt with a home made porn movie competition. From what I saw, many of the women were what our society would call fat. The way they were comfortable with presenting themselves on video, not only in a competition, but on an HBO series that would be seen by millions was the sexiest thing.

I'd rather experience a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality and who she is than something we have been conditioned to think is sexy.
Sure, but even the most comfortable woman on earth will not be attractive to me if she's outside of my attractiveness zone.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:28 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I prefer women in the middle 2/3 of the bell curve. As for ribs showing, my ribs are visible and I have a beer belly. Granted, women's bodies are different from men's, but neither visible ribs nor a prominent belly are signs that someone's unhealthy.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:38 PM   #62 (permalink)
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attraction is one thing... who is easy & effective to make them feel good? i have heard that skinny girls are difficult to please and chubby girls are easy to arouse and please. Not my personal opinion or experience thou
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:09 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Typical double standard. That's how it always works.
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See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.


These types of double standards bother me and i am guilty of them myself sometimes.
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Wow. Interesting responses. A looks downright sick to me, and B is not far behind her... but that's my bias. Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)


I know that this is just opinion but i am curious what you think of C?

If you think B looks almost sick which i almost dropped my glass after reading, I am curious. I still go with B and C look normal, and A needs a good meal. (sorry a joke see double standard above).





/sorry abaya I reread your comments and now understand what you think of C. I will leave it unedited though.

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Old 08-26-2008, 05:17 PM   #64 (permalink)
 
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See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.
No. When I say she looks downright sick, I mean it... she looks like she is unhealthy. If C was obese and looked unhealthy, I most definitely would have said that as well... I am not a fan of unhealthy, obese figures, either. But C appears to be quite robust and healthy, and nowhere near "sick," at least in the physical sense that A looks. So is that really a double standard? I'm sure someone will inform me soon enough.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:12 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Maybe I should rephrase it then. I'm not interested in dating someone who has unhealthy diet habits or that's physically lazy, especially if those behaviors/decisions are reflected in her appearance. I know plenty of women with 'healthy' physiques that have terrible diet and exercise habits, and I know some 'plus-size' women who are very responsible so far as diet and exercise. I'd be more interested in seeing the latter because not only is it something we could enjoy together, but it's a sign of attributes like maturity and discipline. Those score really high in my book.


Yes, yes, and yes, physically. C is probably near the cusp, but I could see myself dating someone in that shape.
If I were at a party and saw A, i'd walk past. She looks anorexic and she'd probably have issues. B is nice, but I prefer C. I'd love to get inside C's pants if it were the last thing I did..lol
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:16 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:38 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I love women with curves. And if that means chubby, then, yep! I happen to love big boobs, and it's rare to find a very thin, petite woman with huge breasts. It looks unnatural anyway.

Girl C is definitely my type.

I wouldn't consider any of those women fat, I would consider them "curvy."
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:28 AM   #68 (permalink)
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No. When I say she looks downright sick, I mean it... she looks like she is unhealthy. If C was obese and looked unhealthy, I most definitely would have said that as well... I am not a fan of unhealthy, obese figures, either. But C appears to be quite robust and healthy, and nowhere near "sick," at least in the physical sense that A looks. So is that really a double standard? I'm sure someone will inform me soon enough.
C looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. I feel better!

Really, your comment on A is a double standard. Some people are thin - not becuase they have an eating disorder, but because genetically, they are thin. Some people carry extra weight around - again, this may not be because they eat too much and exercise too little (although that is the case for most overweight folks) - but because they have a biological predisposition towards being heavy.

B is easily the healthiest looking woman of the three and personally, she is the most attractive body wise.
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Really, your comment on A is a double standard. Some people are thin - not becuase they have an eating disorder, but because genetically, they are thin.
I'm quite aware of this fact. I know plenty of naturally thin people. But I have never known anyone to look THAT thin (as A does), unless they are anorexic or starving themselves on purpose (or just plain starving, because of poverty). That kind of thinness is simply not natural, and it's not healthy.

I would not say that B looks unhealthy--but she is still below average. Maybe that's a good thing. But yes, she does look healthier than A.
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Some people carry extra weight around - again, this may not be because they eat too much and exercise too little (although that is the case for most overweight folks) - but because they have a biological predisposition towards being heavy.
I'm also well-aware of this fact. However, there's a difference between carrying extra weight naturally, and being morbidly obese (which girl C is far, far from being)... which would be at the other unhealthy extreme from A. Being bony-thin or morbidly obese are both unhealthy figures to have. From the picture here, person A looks sick. B is okay. C is also just fine. I still see no double-standard here, and I'm done arguing about it.
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personally, she is the most attractive body wise.
That's fine. We all have our own standards for what is "attractive," which may or may not be different from what is "healthy."
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:56 AM   #70 (permalink)
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However, I wouldn't like skinny girls either.


standard sized girls, maybe a small tummy tops is where it's at!




EDIT:
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C is chubby?

Hell.. C all the way! B too.. They're probably even. A is a no. (although in reality a yes )

I'd say even more than C was still attractive. She's not chubby at all.

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Old 08-27-2008, 03:13 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Some women are meant to be thin and some women 'diet' to become thin. And you can usually tell the difference in the face.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:43 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Some women are meant to be thin and some women 'diet' to become thin. And you can usually tell the difference in the face.
Very true. Their faces tend to have a sunken look to them.

I can't stop looking at that picture of the three women though. The woman on the right is super-duper hot. I can't stop staring!
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Old 08-27-2008, 04:32 AM   #74 (permalink)
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What's funny is that some people think C is chubby. She's teh hotness. The difference between looking at a Monet or dogs playing poker on velvet.

I dated a very slim girl. She was fine, albeit neurotic. She ate soup with a fork and screwed guys for confidence. I ended up with a "chubby" girl who can lift heavy things and have fun in a box.
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Some women are meant to be thin and some women 'diet' to become thin. And you can usually tell the difference in the face.
That's basically what I was trying to say. There's thin, and then there's unhealthy thin--and the same goes for "extra weight" vs. morbid obesity. And there's a whole lotta room in between those extremes, thank goodness!
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:26 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I'll admit I came back in the thread to check out that pic again. C is fine!

Porn should have more girls like her in it - most pornstars just look abnormal.
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See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.

My feeling is that "downright sick" is an (albeit overly emphatic) way of making a statement about the apparent health of the woman, whereas "fat cow" is apparently a judgement call about her personality as well as her size.

If someone said "A looks like an anorexic bitch" that would be equivalent to "C looks like a fat cow" and both would be inappropriate in my book.

I think "A looks like she's starved herself" would be equivalent to "C looks like she's gorged herself"; and I think that from my perspective, the first girl doesn't appeal to me because I am a hedonist and an Epicurean - I love to eat good food and don't think that the really thin girl would be much fun in that regard.

Also, I love the sensual feel of flesh. I love to touch a willing, sensuous and pliable woman, but somehow a really skinny girl gives me the mental image of trying to fuck a xylophone.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:24 AM   #80 (permalink)
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This thread is raising all kinds of self esteem for naturally skinny women. If they're reading this, that is.

Eh, I guess we were due for one after the previous thread about fat people.
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