hrandani

Dante Hicks: You said you only had sex with three different guys; you never mentioned him!
Veronica Loughran: Because I never HAD sex with him.
Dante Hicks: You sucked his dick!
Veronica Loughran: We went out a few times. We never had sex but we fooled around.
Dante Hicks: Oh my God, WHY did you tell me you only had sex with three different guys?
Veronica Loughran: Because I DID only have sex with three different guys; that doesn't mean I didn't just go with people.
Dante Hicks: Oh my God, I feel so nauseous!
Veronica Loughran: I'm sorry, Dante, I thought you understood!
Dante Hicks: I did understand! I understood that you had sex with three different guys and that's all you said!
Veronica Loughran: Please calm down.
Dante Hicks: How many?
Veronica Loughran: Dante...
Dante Hicks: How many dicks have you sucked?
Veronica Loughran: Let it go!
Dante Hicks: How many?
Veronica Loughran: All right, shut up a second and I'll tell you! Jesus! I didn't freak out like this when you told me how many girls you fucked!
Dante Hicks: This is different, this is important. How many?
[long pause as customer buys something]
Dante Hicks: Well?
Veronica Loughran: Something like... 36.
Dante Hicks: What? Something like 36?
Veronica Loughran: Lower your voice.
Dante Hicks: Wait a minute, what is that anyway, something like 36? Does that INCLUDE me?
Veronica Loughran: Ummm... 37.
Dante Hicks: I'm 37?
Dante Hicks: Hey, try not to suck any dick on the way through the parking lot! - Hey pal, where the fuck do you think you're going?

analog

You're holding out for a chick who's only had sex with 2 or less people?

cadre

I've never even thought of asking someone how many people they've slept with. The only thing that matters to me is that they're clean. Period.

Personally, I try not to be anyones first or second. Mostly because of the inability of most people to differentiate love from sex. Then again, I had no idea my current boyfriend was a virgin when I met him and it wouldn't have stopped me in that case because of the connection we made. Two years later, we're still together and he still hasn't asked me how many people I've been with.

I have no problem being with someone more experience, and I don't really think 70 is a high number but maybe that's just my experiences and the fact that I wasn't raised with a bible.

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Menoman

Not holding out for anything, I've not gone more than a month without finding someone, they always fit the criteria. It's really not hard.


70 is not a high number??? I'd say thats where the stereotyping comes from..

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ruggerp11

If you're opposed to the number of sexual partners a member of the opposite sex and they are clean then the only motivation behind your displeasure can be what you can consider moral. I sincerely hope that if you're coming at it from a moral ground that you are morally clean yourself.

In my personal opinion people that judge deserve others that judge as well. I would also think in my own personal opinion that god or whomever will judge our souls when we pass would be more concerned with people who live falsely (hypocrites can be included in this) than good people who enjoy physical pleasure.

Despite the bible posturing my feelings are the same, I do not care how many men a woman has been with as long as she treats me with respect when we're together.

In my book Honesty, Kindness are qualities that outweigh desire for physical pleasure.

Lets concentrate on the important things, and I think your SOs number isn't one of them.

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Menoman

I've had more than 3 partners lol, if someone doesnt wanna fuck me coz of that... no big deal, I have no trouble finding those who want to, and since I'm not christian none of that hoopla applies to me. Just my own compass.

I won't degrade someone for doing exactly what I do.

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Plan9

It isn't the number necessarily, but the number / time factor.

70 in what? 5 years? 10 years?

In 2-3 years? Yikes.

I don't care who you are... that's a red flag.

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Ustwo

Yea pretty much.

If I were in my lower 20's and a girl told me she slept with 70, odds are I'd be 71, but I wouldn't be asking her out for another date.

Honestly I think 70 is a bit high for pretty much any age, but I never hung out with 'party girls'.

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james t kirk

You may be alarmed to know that 75 to 80% of the population has HPV.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

And Cancer is 5 and your odds of dying of cancer are 50 50 and your odds of contracting HIV as a straight male are 1 in 360,000.

cadre

Well, he said she was 23 at the time right? So what if she started having sex at 14 like many people do? That's nine years, plenty of time to rack up 70 partners.

Besides, since when do we look down on people who enjoy sex and actively seek out partners?

She's clean, that's really all that matters to me.

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james t kirk

I completely agree.

I've gotten to this point and I am amazed that no-one has said, "I don't even ask what my partner's "number" is"

Honestly, I stopped counting at 6 myself. I can't say with 100% certainty what my "number" is.

I would NEVER EVER ask a woman what her "number" is. If she wants to tell me, fine. If anything, I'll be turned on and ask her who was the best, or who had the biggest cock, or if she ever had a MMF threesome. I certainly wouldn't judge her for her sexuality.

I'd be far more concerned dating a woman whose number was 3 or 4 and she felt some sense of pride about having a low number.

I love women who LOVE to have sex.

Plan9

Okay... I really suck at math.

So 70 partners divided by 9 years is 7.777 partners a year. We'll round up to 8.

12 months in a year divided by 8 partners = 1.5 months per partner. 45 days?

45 days per partner for nearly a decade?

A major case of crotch ADHD.

My math is probably wrong.

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cadre

I have to wonder if you guys would be singing the same tune if it were a man with 70 partners.

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Plan9

A man with a 70 tally body count probably has a nice permanent ring around his wang from all the condoms he (hopefully) uses.

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Menoman

I'd like to meet him, get some pointers.

Of course it would be a different tune!

Men actually have to work at getting laid (by decent women)

Any decent looking girl can get fucked 7 days a week by 7 different guys.

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james t kirk

Man, you Americans are so hardcore when it comes to sex. I can't believe what I am reading here for the most part.

I think of all of my friends, and other than one judgemental guy I know, none of them have ever made any similar statements as to what I am reading here. I can recall more than a few dinner parties I have attended where the conversation turns to sex after a few red wines and the explicit stories about past experiences flow and no-one EVER lays out the kind of judgement I am reading here.

Must be a Canadian thing that we are way more laid back when it comes to sex than Americans. We certainly don't run around quoting the bible (none of us go to church - we'd probably just spontaneously combust anyway.)

cadre

I don't think it's just Canada, Europe is like that too, which I why I always enjoy myself there. This thread could easily be tied into the one about modern media devalues sex though.

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abaya

Don't worry, I'm well aware of the fact. I had one partner (when I was blacked out) before I met ktspktsp, and I got HPV from him. That guy told me he had been with 7 people before me. Not high numbers, not at all. I slept with ONE person. I still got HPV. It's not the end of the world, I realized. I'm going back for my 6th pap smear in 3 years soon (you have to have 6 clear paps before they declare you free of it), and I hardly even think about it.

But yes, if I ever had to sleep with someone else again (threesome or whatever), I would have to tell them that I had HPV, and as a result, ktspktsp probably has it too. I've slept with two people, he's slept with one. That's enough to screw us over, if I had contracted the kind that leads to cervical cancer.

On the European note: Yeah, here in Iceland, pretty much everyone has slept with everyone. Nobody asks what your "number" is, that would be asinine. I would be willing to bet good money that 8 out of 10 Icelanders (including women) have had at least 20 partners, probably closer to 40 or 50. No one cares, no one asks. What you're seeing in this thread is good ol' American puritanism at its best.

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MSD

My women must be virginal and pure in the eyes of the Lord.

Plan9

Michael Flatley?

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bloody_rose20

Well with me, I never cared how many people guys were with and honestly I never asked. Then again, I never wanted a real relationship with any of them. Now my current fionce, I would have had an issue with more then 1 honestly. Only becuase there are so many loose and nasty skanks that live in the town that we do, and I do not like sloppy seconds of someone else. Lucky for me, I got a virgin :-) One that was addicted to porn, but a virgin none-the-less :-) And so was I, so it worked out better. I dunno maybe I would have thought different if I had not been a virgin?

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analog

I spit water everywhere. I hope you're happy.

That seems like an incredibly disturbing double-standard you've got working there.

If a male had said that, he'd be crucified for sexism and all manner of other things by the women folk. Very interesting.

Ustwo

Canadians are so cute when they try to pretend they are different from US citizens, but other than higher gas prices, French no one reads, and better Walleye fishing, someone would have to tell you you crossed the border to really notice it.

Which leads into this....

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Plan9

Canada: America's hat.

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canuckguy

I travel frequently for work and personal reasons to the US and if you did the same you would not make this statement because it is simply not true. end threadjack.....



back to the actual thread, i am having a hard time digesting what seems to be huge double standards. too each is own i guess, did worlds king comment yet in this thread? we could use his wisdom!!!

Ustwo

Yes I've never been to Canada multiple multiple times

I find no more diversity traveling to places like Miami or Dallas then I do traveling to Canada from Chicago.

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canuckguy

funny you name cities but refer to places in canada as just "canada"....... not everyone lives in toronto, vancouver or montreal.... if you travel outside common destinations you'd see that we are very different.

since you've never been to canada multiple, multiple times i don't expect you to know that.

i don't think we should discuss this any longer, this thread is not about whether you have or have not been to canada multiple, multiple times.....

Plan9

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StellaLuna

I'd want to know. In fact, I do know. And they know my count as well. It's not such a big deal to me to have that knowledge... my reaction has never been "Oh, no, you were with other people before me! Boohoo!" I expected it and in my situation knew it anyway.

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ring

Regardless of Gender?

I may be wrong but the 'madonna-whore' complexities seem to be alive and kickin.

I love how I put an 'out' or disclaimer on this.

I feel old.

Frosstbyte

I let one of the best girls ever to have been in my life get away because her "count" and recent promiscuity prior to our interest in one another scared me away. It was a very big mistake. I'm not likely to make it again, though since I'm not with her I met the girl I'm going to marry, so it's not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely an important safety tip. It's something to be aware of, probably, for safety reasons, but it's not a good reason to decide not to be with someone.

little_tippler

I'm not one to apply stereotypes to people, or I try not to. I must confess though that a guy with a very high count would scare me away at first - though that doesn't mean I wouldn't give him a chance. The reasons are simple:

a) STD's
b) I've only had a couple of partners and I'd feel pressured on what he expects
c) Condescendence on his part (if we get that far into the relationship where h'es more comfortable) because of my lack of experience

That's all. I don't think it matters if you're going for something serious with the other person.

On the other hand, to flip things around - I sometimes worry when meeting new guys I fancy because I think once they know, they may find my lack of experience odd or a turn off - it's just the way my life has turned out, and the fact that I don't like to have sex with just any guy (I'm picky and emotional lol).

I don't feel it should be an issue, but if we're honest, of course people think about it! What matters is what you're comfortable with, all these PC ideas about not judging people is pointless, because we all do really, in one way or another.

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We are ever unapparent. What we are
Cannot be transfused into word or book.
Our soul from us is infinitely far.
However much we give our thoughts the will
To be our soul and gesture it abroad,
Our hearts are incommunicable still.
In what we show ourselves we are ignored.
The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged
By any skill of thought or trick of seeming.
Unto our very selves we are abridged
When we would utter to our thought our being.
We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams,
And each to each other dreams of others' dreams.

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Plan9

Experience to some means damaged goods to another.

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MrFriendly

You know, I just realised, no one has mentioned the Kevin Smith film "Chasing Amy" yet, hehe.

Kinda deal with the same idea as this thread.

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ASU2003

It does matter to me. I doubt it would though if my number weren't zero.

I would like to get with another girl whose number is zero, and it would be nice from the standpoint that there would be no jealousy or wondering if they still have feelings or comparing each other to their past partners. It is not exactly easy finding these girls outside of a church or nunery however.

Maybe it is because I have no idea how good relationships work that it matters to me, but I'm sure it would cause problems if our numbers were different.

(I love Chasing Amy)

Psycho Dad

And there you go. I think that is what the OP was questioning. Trying to determine if having sex with someone puts you at risk for STDs or if the person you want to make a life with is worthy because they have had more partners than your personal belief system allows are two different animals.

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MSD

On the other hand, if your first time is with someone who has experience, it'll be a lot more fun for you.

StellaLuna

Absolutely. My first time with my ex was horrible (we were both virgins). My first time with ratbastid was amazing-- as was the first time with lurkette, my first girlfriend-- and it was their experience that made all the difference. (I like them more, too; I know that has something to do with it, but the experience did facilitate matters.)

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ASU2003

Not if I can't control my thoughts about their previous partners, what happened in their relationship, why did it not work, am I good enough...?

The sex part is the easy part. It doesn't have to be the best sex ever if it is our first time, and there will be many more times to get better and try new things that neither of us have done before. (And that gives me an idea for a new thread.)

ItWasMe

I think the number of recent "unprotected" would mean more than the actual number. Even if cleared by an STD test, it doesn't catch them all.

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