The World of Warcraft Thread

[Gabbyness]

Feralas, Southern Tanaris, Uldaman . . .

Halx - that's a tough level set, the mid 40s. I noticed when I got into the low 50s things really start to pick up. I nearly quit in the mid 40s because it got boring and the quests suck face.

Try some just straight grinding when you get a little higher. The ogres in Tanaris and the harpies in Feralas are effective grinding until you can get near 50 and some better quests open up.

[Frosstbyte]

I'd go to Feralas or the Hinterlands. Tanaris is a continuous gank-fest since the honor system went in. Every time I've landed there I've been ganked before my system could catch up to the fact that I was no longer on a griffon.

[alansmithee]

Originally Posted by MahlerIsGod

Are there any high lvl enchanters out there who can answer me a few questions? First, is there a list of what can be enchanted and with what? I keeping asking in IF if someone can enchant my stave with +50 spirit and people laugh at me. Is there a website I can consult? Second, can a novice enchanter disenchant a purple/blue item? Thanks for any help, info, etc. you can provide. Much appreciated

Thottbot has a list of all possible enchants. And FYI, I think the highest spirit enchant is +9 on 2-hand weapon.

And anyone can disenchant any item, it has no skill lvl requirements.

[Cynthetiq]

Originally Posted by Halx

I'm level 44 right now and I cannot find anywhere to grind quests. All I have are a bunch of random quests that hardly anybody has that I need to do with a party. It's stupid. Where do I head next?

I'm partial to this map, it shows what levels the areas are in one big map and of course also shows the gryph points.

http://www.kaldorei.com/worldmap/

[-Ever-]

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

I'm partial to this map, it shows what levels the areas are in one big map and of course also shows the gryph points.

http://www.kaldorei.com/worldmap/

Very cool, thanks!

[Lasereth]

Originally Posted by Halx

I'm level 44 right now and I cannot find anywhere to grind quests. All I have are a bunch of random quests that hardly anybody has that I need to do with a party. It's stupid. Where do I head next?

On the Alliance side, the zone system that leads you from place to place basically stops after 40. 0-12 it was Goldshire, 12-20 it's Loch Modan, Westfall, and Redridge, then 20-30 is Redridge/Duskwood, 30-35 is Gnomeregan and Arathi/Alterac/Hillsbrad, 35-40 is Scarlet Monastery. After 40 the game basically goes everywhere else.

I did SM runs until 41, then solo'ed the Drywhisker gnolls in northeast Arathi until 44, then did Uldaman until 46. Then I solo'ed Ogres in Feralas from 46-48 and did a few Tanaris quests (I hate that place). 48-50 was spent in a few instances here and there. 50-54 was a Un'Goro quests and random crap. I honestly can't remember what I've did from 50-58. Ha ha. I know I solo'ed in Azshara from 56-58. 50-56 was sort of a blur. Un'Goro and random fighting in the Searing Gorge maybe?

That's basically what I'm getting to. There's no hardcore places to go to after 40 like there is prior to it. That's when ya gotta get creative and find your own places. I personally LOVE Feralas and Azshara. Feralas has an awesome atmosphere and plenty of places to solo from 40-50. Same with Azshara from 48-58.

-Lasereth

[Gabbyness]

Once you hit the 50s, Ungoro, Azshara, and the Plaguelands are stellar for quests and xp.

The Plaguelands especially.

[Drider_it]

well you could try azshara, stv.. if your on a pvp server its a bit hard but the tiger, panther and raport mastery series are good to do. Desolace is one to do if you havent yet. I mostly found toons my lvl at around 44 and grind like hell and went on pick up group into Scarlet Monestary. Aslo felwood is something to look into when ya get into the 50's

by far enchanting is the win for me. I can nuke any gree, blue and yes even purple items. I could do this at lvl 1 all the way to lvl 60. beauty of it now is.. I can drop a icy chill or +7 dmg enchant on any lvl weapon and my alts can use it. Enchanting an item dont mean jack for lvl req just the original items lvl. sharpening stones require the item weapon have a min lvl to use them. no enchants. I can put +100 health on a crap white item you get in the newb quest area heh ... if i wanted to. dosent change anything for lvl req's. I can maybe see this change in the future.

say my alt pally. I put +7 dmg 2h weapon enchant on every weapon he had since he was lvl 12 was wonderful to help lvl up. but later on you cant rely on those enchants to carry ya. heh

but gotta tell ya.. if your on a pvp server id stay outta hillsbrad if your horde with a high population of alliance unless you have to go there to train a prof. with the new honor system they are farming the hell outta the guards and "civilians" there heh

if your horde go to chared vale and goof around there with quests. also tanaris is ok if you can handle it. wastwater or whatever bandits are good to grind on.. the water pouches they drop you can turn in for around 500 exp a stack get a crate with food water and a health or mana pot in it.

in just working on a warlock and shamman on bonechewer finally.. we was on warsong but that server is just a gankfest heh and high population.

i just lvl my two toons there.. then go back on lothar and use up any rested exp on my alts. trying to get to 35 on my alliance toons so i can make purify mooncloth. 4 day cool down on mooncloth is a pain. i could spend 2 outta that 4 days farming and get at least 3 travler's backpacks for every 1 mooncloth bag i can make heh.

[-Ever-]

I'm 42.5 now and didn't realize until about 42 that the 40's are a really interesting turning point in WoW. I kept on hopping from island to island and I had to see that other people were experiencing the same thing to understand that it's now up to me to decide where I do. I think I'm gonna finish up any greens/yellows on the Eastern Island then work Feralas and Tenaris until well into the 40's. I just like it over there more, especially since it's closer to the AH

[Esoteric]

I hate Un'Goro with a passion, WORST ZONE EVER. Thank God I'm 60 so I don't have to worry about that, but sigh I'm lvling up a rogue alt on Horde side on Kil'Jaeden. I stayed in Tanaris in my upper 40's, then did Zul'Farrak groups all day long from 50-55 ish, then moved to the Plaguelands.

[Jadedfox]

I helped a guildie do the epic warlock mount quest yesterday. It was really cool but a pain in the ass. Amidst the chaos in dire maul I forgot to take screenshots

--jaded

[Jadedfox]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

I hate Un'Goro with a passion, WORST ZONE EVER.

Really? I love that zone. It has the easiest quests and they are all worth about 5-6k. And if you are a fire mage those tar elementals are great to grind since you're crit rate is crazy against them. I think I grinded those from 50-56 and did the un'goro quests at the same time. After that I just hit up felwood and winterspring and I was 60. The only thing I did in plaguelands was the cauldron runs and the starting quests for shroud of the exile.

--jaded

[Gabbyness]

Ungoro quests are really what brought me back to the whole questing jazz. In the 40s I was simply grinding and instancing and getting awfully bored with it. I found Ungoro to be excellent.

Now, this is post-honor system, so I'm sure it's a friggin circus now, I haven't been back.

Jaded - What do you have to do in DM for the Warlock Quest? I've found DM to be just plain awesome. Nothing like grabbing that suit and making a mad dash to the King in under an hour.

As a hunter the Barbarous Blade, Ogre-forged Hauberk, and Leggings of Destruction are just money money.

Does anyone know how I go about getting the Blackwood Helm?

[Frosstbyte]

Un'Goro really isn't so bad for ganking even post honor system. What I have found is that many horde seem to group there, whereas many alliance seem to solo. That means that there's a lot of "ganking" because one alliance running into a group of horde isn't going to fare very well. The real problem is that to get to Un'Goro you have to go through Tanaris, which is miserable.

[-Ever-]

Originally Posted by Gabbyness

Does anyone know how I go about getting the Blackwood Helm?

The Backwood Helm (you said bLackwood...hopefully it's the same thing) is a quest reward (and an awesome one to boot!) :

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=35700

[Drider_it]

ok outta a mage warlock and shaman im liking these three over all the other classes on both horde and alliance. I lvled my mage human alliance on lothar but starting a new mage, warlock, and shaman on bonechewer.. shaman is troll the other two are ud. I miss my mages stuff i.e. ports mounts high lvl tailoring for bags and enchants.

hehe with enchants .. no lvl req. nothing like putting +100 health on a somewhat long term usuable item and +7 dmg or icy chill on a good weapon .. what i see uber lvls are for.. tanking another alts you might want to make.

although im missing swg's one feature i liked.. respec for anything. once you make a mage your stuck with them no matter what ya do short of deleteing them. although you can respec all you want your still a mage.

[Jadedfox]

Originally Posted by Gabbyness

Jaded - What do you have to do in DM for the Warlock Quest? I've found DM to be just plain awesome. Nothing like grabbing that suit and making a mad dash to the King in under an hour.

Yeah DM is great fun. A well designed instance. I assuming that the DM is the last step in the warlock quest chain. I'm not sure about the rest. But in DM you have to finish the undead side (clear the pylons and defeat the big ass dog. We killed the prince after this as well but I'm not sure that it's necessary).

Back in the room where the dog is, the warlock will start a summoning process, leaving him/her helpless to help out in the fight. So basically it's the other 4 in the party doing the work. Our group consisted of me (mage) warrior, priest and druid (and the useless lock ).

At first you'll get swarmed by non-elite level 60 imps and a few elite demons. Our strat was for me to AoE the imps and the warrior and druid tank the elite demons. So we started...and after 2 major mana pots and evocation they STILL kept coming. So we wiped. At that point we were thinking damn, there has to be a trick to it, because it was seriously impossible. Our priest was soulstoned but the imps and demons were still around. So as we were contemplating just ressing and running back this weird magnetic field appeared. The mobs were still around but our priest used the souldstone anyway.

As she ressed the mobs disappeared. And the warlock had not gotten quest failed. So the priest ressed us all and the warlock continued the summoning procedure. This time a level 62 elite demon and his lvl 61 elite mount appeared. We killed them both and warlock got quest complete.

It was an AWESOME fight.

The demon dropped "Demonic Shoulders" I think they were called. Nothing too fancy, +16 sta and +8 mana regen every 5 secs or so.

--jaded

[seretogis]

Ragnaros is down! My guild snagged the third kill world-wide, and the first PvP server kill. www.twelveprophets.com for teh screenshots. Fun encounter, pretty gimp loot-table. Hopefully Blizzard will fix that before everyone and their dog can drop Rag.

[Jadedfox]

Originally Posted by seretogis

Ragnaros is down! My guild snagged the third kill world-wide, and the first PvP server kill. www.twelveprophets.com for teh screenshots. Fun encounter, pretty gimp loot-table. Hopefully Blizzard will fix that before everyone and their dog can drop Rag.

Yeah I saw that Ser, grats

Then I saw the application for joining 12P, and if you don't play 40 hours a week 12P may not be the guild for you. No wonder you took him down!

--jaded

[seretogis]

Originally Posted by Jadedfox

Yeah I saw that Ser, grats

Then I saw the application for joining 12P, and if you don't play 40 hours a week 12P may not be the guild for you. No wonder you took him down!

--jaded

40 hours a week is a small sacrifice for pixels of digital loot!

[-Ever-]

So what's the strategy? There must have been something released seeing that everyones finally able to take him down!

Edit: Ah I just found a post of yours at your forum: "We do not publicly reveal our PvE strats to other guilds, Horde or Alliance."

No worries if you can't talk about it

[Lasereth]

I imagine the main key is 100% pure organization. Organization in WoW basically ruins the enemies' chances of winning. My suitemates get into a 5 person party with a friend frequently. We can take down a group of 5-10 horde without a single death in most cases. Why? We follow orders, we have a good healer that doesn't use his mana to attack, and we actually have a battle layout. Mage in the rear unless it's AoE time, warriors up front with the paladin. We slaughter any horde that comes near us unless it's more than 10 or another organized group.

That's also why I'm Sergeant Razerwind with 7000 contribution points with only 190 kills. I don't go to zerg PVP fests...those are worthless. Group PVP is where it's at.

Battlegrounds is gonna be won/loss the same way. Whichever side is organized with players following orders will win.

-Lasereth

[reiii]

Originally Posted by Lasereth

I imagine the main key is 100% pure organization. Organization in WoW basically ruins the enemies' chances of winning. My suitemates get into a 5 person party with a friend frequently. We can take down a group of 5-10 horde without a single death in most cases. Why? We follow orders, we have a good healer that doesn't use his mana to attack, and we actually have a battle layout. Mage in the rear unless it's AoE time, warriors up front with the paladin. We slaughter any horde that comes near us unless it's more than 10 or another organized group.

That's also why I'm Sergeant Razerwind with 7000 contribution points with only 190 kills. I don't go to zerg PVP fests...those are worthless. Group PVP is where it's at.

Battlegrounds is gonna be won/loss the same way. Whichever side is organized with players following orders will win.

-Lasereth

bah, im a sergeant and I'm a lowly lvl 54 druid, who likes to attack 60s I can beat

[Scorps]

Has anyone had connection problems every minite today or is it just my shitty cable provider?

[Cardinal Syn]

Well i got Rank 4 , Standing = 19 on my server. Stormreaver. Was kinda cool when i logged in to find my standing 19. I didnt expect that.

How did everyone else do?

[Jadedfox]

Rank 3 Sergeant, standing 160. The only useful thing to buy was the dispel fear trinket. On our low pop server we are making tiny MC progress. This saturday the plan is to take down Magmadar and hopefully Gehennas. I know, we're no 12P, but considering that every MC raid is a pickup group with people who have never been there before, it's not so shabby

But damn, MC is fun!

--jaded

[Scorps]

Just found out that my inter connection is F.U.B.A.R. so I hope it fixes it self by tomorrow or the cable company is going to be getting a nasty phone call!



P.S. Im surprissed it didn't crap out again!

[00111000]

Rank 2 Grunt 749 standing. Got a nifty trinket that dispells stun,snares and roots. It's great for small battles but for the larger battles it allows me to get about 5 feet further and then die.

I like to roll around in small groups now, the large raids are fun for a bit but the lag just gets unbeable now. I did get a sweet kill tonight though, first time I've beaten a priest and one that was 4 levels higer to boot!

I was running through The Barrens and saw the call go out about a few Alliance scumbags in the area so I summoned good old Lunchbox, my trusty pet and went in search of honor. I found the group south of Crossroads so I snuck around the side and targeted the Priest and got her with a crit aimed shot for 1500 or so, sent pet in, concussive shot, viper sting, multi shot, arcane shot as I ran to wing clip her. I nailed her with that and got feared! That is when I thought it was all over but for some reason fear only lasted a few seconds and got me back into bow range, I nailed her with another barrage of viper/concussive/multi/arcane, clicked rapid fire and got in a few lucky crits and the Human scum ate dirt! Master Sergant down!! That lucky first crit was all I needed.

The whole PvP thing was a huge draw to me in this game. I'm not a griefer or anything like that, I just like the added challenge of maybe getting my ass handed to me just when I thought I was safe or having night long skirmishes against the other faction. The honor system has its faults but is a good step to making a great game an even better game. Yeah sure you have really be no your toes now when grinding but once battlegrounds goes in that may subside.

[Shauk]

I got Corporal, and Im a pally... weird. People said we wouldnt get ranked either heh.

Oh well I got my trinket, I must say its so worth it too.

[Scorps]

I'm guessing all u guys are lvl 50+?

im a lvl 35 and when I try and raid(with lvl 50's+) the other orcs and stuff always go after me first....maybe because im the healer.

[Drider_it]

so silithus.. whats the deal with the big door and the gong. wonder what you have to kill to get it to open. btw can we say starship troopers?

[Jadedfox]

Question for you warriors out there. Im curently leveling up mine and I hit 24. What is a good solo grind build? 31 arms/20 Fury? Is a pure fury build at all viable? I was thinkiing dual wielding but so far it seems I'm better off with a slow 2-hander.

Help!

--jaded

[killeena]

Originally Posted by Jadedfox

Question for you warriors out there. Im curently leveling up mine and I hit 24. What is a good solo grind build? 31 arms/20 Fury? Is a pure fury build at all viable? I was thinkiing dual wielding but so far it seems I'm better off with a slow 2-hander.

Help!

--jaded

I don't really know what build is the best, but I like having a slow 2 hander better than dual wield. At first the dual wield was cool, but after a while, it just seemed like it wasn't really helping all that much.

[Lasereth]

Originally Posted by Jadedfox

Question for you warriors out there. Im curently leveling up mine and I hit 24. What is a good solo grind build? 31 arms/20 Fury? Is a pure fury build at all viable? I was thinkiing dual wielding but so far it seems I'm better off with a slow 2-hander.

Help!

--jaded

My 59 warrior is a completely fury build with a touch of arms. Most warriors say that the ONLY way a warrior can be decent is with the 31/20 build...but I disagree. My warrior is 12/36/0 and frankly he rocks the house. The major deal that most warriors forget is that Whirlwind, an ability you get with Berserker Stance (I think you get WW at 36), does the same thing as Mortal Strike (which is the 31 points in Arms that most warriors do). WW and MS are both instant extra attacks. They both favor slow 2-handed weapons. Right now, there's no reason to dual wield or use a fast 2-hander. Anyway, back to Fury versus Arms: Fury is best for grinding and group PVP while MS is better for duels and 1 v 1 PVP. I can get MS warriors down to 15-20% HP in duels without MS. Sometimes I beat them. It does make killing Paladins a lot easier (MS). But for grinding, bloodthirst is unbelievable. Right now, at 59, I can one-shot level 53 enemies. Yes, 1 hit = dead with bloodthirst.

Bloodthirst make work well in grinding, but can you imagine it in group PVP? I sure as hell can. Here's the combat log of my adventures last night in Azshara:

I start fighting Furbolg. I get him to 20% HP, then a 60 rogue cheap shots me and starts going crazy. I use my trinket to get rid of his stun and WW/Execute the Furbolg. I just gained Bloodthirst. I right click on the rogue. "You crit Tanda for 1942. Your Overpower crits Tanda for 1292. Your Execute hits Tanda for 1173." Dead. Three hits. The first crit from Bloodthirst was nearly 2000 damage. He sat there for a while after he died wondering what happened.

Lo and behold, right as I click my food, another 60 rogue cheap shots me. I get up and wait for the stunlock to be over with. At this point, I had about 3000 HP left (out of 4200). The stuns wear off, I Overpower the rogue for around 1500 (Bloodthirsted), I disarm him. He crits me so I gain enrage (+40% damage). I'm hitting him for 500 base damage now with my Arcanite Reaper. I crit for around 900 and gain Flurry (+30% weapon haste, only available in 31 Fury). My Arcanite Reaper now has a speed of 2.5 instead of 3.8. I WW, hit him once more, and Execute.

I click food, and what do you know, a 60 warrior comes up with the old Twig of the World Tree. I have around 1500 HP now. He crits me for 600. I fear him, run away, and bandage. Back up to 2700 HP. I have enrage from the crit and Flurry from the rogue...and Bloodthirst from the rogue. I hit the warrior for nearly 1000 (a plate wearer!!). WW, hit some more, disarm, demo shout, WW...Execute. Dead! I have around 1000 HP left. All three 60's are dead simultaneously due to Bloodthirst, Enrage, and Flurry. What good would Mortal Strike have been here...none of them could heal, so the healing negation wouldn't have helped at all. Whirlwind does close to the same amount of damage and for LESS rage.

I won in that situation because of my talents, plain and simple.

Fighting enemies is the same way...I gain Bloodthirst, hit the next one for 1000-2300 (yes, I've crit'ed for 2300 before non-execute), gain Flurry, rush to the next one. I can kill fifty level 53's before stopping at 58/59. Why? Because the Fury tree is built for going non-stop against multiple enemies. MS is built for going against 1 enemy.

You can go MS if ya want, but it's just another cookie cutter build for warriors who forget that WW does the exact same thing (sans around 200 damage in the most extreme of cases). Not to mention the Fury tree is getting buffed according to the Warrior GM's on the forums.

Dual wield...hmm. It's decent against regular leveled enemies. It's AWESOME against low-level enemies. But it's nothing compared to a slow 2H against enemies of your own level. If I dual wield against a level 53, ONE gets me down to 1500-2000 HP. Like I said before, I can kill FIFTY level 53's in a row with a slow 2H before stopping. I can kill maybe 4 or 5 max with dual wielding. Dual wielding is inconsistent because of the HORRID miss rate. If the miss rate weren't so bad it'd be worth it.

-Lasereth

[Seething]

My warrior is 44 right now, and at 43 I switched from the cookie cutter 31/20 to try out a fury build. Man, that's the best 5g (respec cost) I've ever spent. I enjoy the hell out of the fury build. I'm slightly different from Laserth, in that I'm using dual wield...well, because I don't have a great 2hander available (went poor after respecing, then abilities). I've seen my one hander(Furious Falchion of the Tiger) out damaging my last 2h weapon (Khoo's Point) which I was using with the arms build. With Enrage, I've had HS crits for almost 700. That's nearly 100 damage above a crit from Khoo's Point.

I love the fury build, and I'm not going back. The only thing I'd change, is getting a slow 2hander over dual wield, or even a fast, high DPS 2 hander. The 25% BASE miss chance for dual wield is counter productive. Flurry increases the speed of the next 3 swings. So even if it misses, it still uses up the Flurry. Not to mention if your off hand is much faster than your main hand, then 2 or 3 of those fast swings goes to the much weaker weapon. And bloodthirst....you'd better hope the first hit is from your main hand, cause it goes wasted when used up by your off.

When luck is on your side though, dual wield loves you. I've taken down an even level mob taking less than 100 damage. I kid you not. Bloodthirst on the first hit, crits kept flurry up the entire time, and almost every swing was a hit. The poor wolf didn't know what hit him.

I'm going to do more testing with a 2 hander (fast and slow), and maybe try dual wield out more, if I can find some nice 1 handers with +% crit and +% to hit. There's a lot of potential in Fury, and like Lasereth said, it's going to receive a buff pretty soon here.

P.S. Thanks Lasereth! You posted earlier in this thread about how you were enjoying a fury build. When I had finally picked up enough cash for a respec after buying my mount, I remembered it and had to try it out.

[Rawrr]

at 59 I have Twig of the World Tree and the cookie cutter 31 / 20 arms build.. after reading Las's response I am thinking of going Fury .. I've been 31 / 20 for the whole life of my warrior.

[Rawrr]

Also a guild mate of mine used, http://wowmapview.sourceforge.net/ to find maps of un finished area's and he came up with some kick ass stuff..









few BG screen shots..word is they are really small!

[-Ever-]

I don't condone it and I know it's bannable in Blizzard's eye, but the above images reminded me of it. I did the whole walk up to the unfinished Caverns of Time instance in Tenaris, died out front, and ressed inside past the blocked entrance. I don't suggest checking it out because the area isn't mindblowing...........

[Frosstbyte]

Originally Posted by -Ever-

I don't condone it and I know it's bannable in Blizzard's eye, but the above images reminded me of it. I did the whole walk up to the unfinished Caverns of Time instance in Tenaris, died out front, and ressed inside past the blocked entrance. I don't suggest checking it out because the area isn't mindblowing...........

Yeah, in case anyone was considering doing this, check out this post first. Official Blizzard Policy on Unopened Areas. They are looking for it and don't seem like they're interested in tolerating it. (though I must admit, reading the post realy fueled my wanderlust, heh)

[Rawrr]

You don't actually view these places live tho, it just explores the files you have already downloaded onto your pc.. least that is what it seems like by reading the site