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Old 07-28-2008, 01:59 PM   #15041 (permalink)
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The Earth we enjoy,
and this place we inhabit,
will eat our beings.

Hoo-rah!
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I should have thought of lying,
but how could that make any senses?
My belief differences.

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Old 07-28-2008, 03:16 PM   #15042 (permalink)
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Well the idea of the Earth eating our beings made me hungry, not to mention my Hungarian ancestry. So needless to say, I searched for new goulash recipes and found this interesting one:

Grasshopper Goulash
20 GRASSHOPPERS chopped
2 handfuls of moss
6 owlets eyes
3 cups of chicken blood
2 grass snakes innards
3 cups of maggots
Fry the chopped grasshoppers with the owlets eyes and innards from the snakes. Once well cooked add the chicken
blood. Simmer for 15 mins. Serve on a bed of pan fried maggots and garnish with the finely chopped moss.

A large cup of Witches Tea goes well with this. Simply soak some elephants toe nails in the blood of 3 frogs for 3 weeks
then strain and bottle!! Delicious!!!!
from The Young Writer's Club--The Witch's Cookbook



For those gourmonds interested in additional similar recipes, please visit Grasshopper Recipes with Real Insects
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:46 AM   #15043 (permalink)
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Thanks for the appetite suppressant.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:17 AM   #15044 (permalink)
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BadNick! Bad, bad, bad, disgusting, goodNick!

One's voice can't be heard,
until it makes sense to those
who will not hear it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:44 AM   #15045 (permalink)
 
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I been hearin' sluglings are tender goodness.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:58 AM   #15046 (permalink)
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I'm watching Scrubs at work.

Shhhhh....
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:26 PM   #15047 (permalink)
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I haven't seen Scrubs....but I like House.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:52 PM   #15048 (permalink)
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What are you scrubbing at your house????
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:46 PM   #15049 (permalink)
 
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since my last few posts, this thread has picked up in speed.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:49 PM   #15050 (permalink)
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MOAB,
that should tell you something...sort of like a scientific experiement where you can analyze the results and posibly make intelligent future predictions. I'm thinking about a prediction now...but I need more time to formulate my ideas and words. But I can predict that I will be back.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:59 PM   #15051 (permalink)
 
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Palindrome # ?

maybe MOAB can tell us how many of them we have had in this thread.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:05 PM   #15052 (permalink)
 
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42.

and no, i now post only this: a;lsdigj a;eogh ;lkgja;litjh ;LKDSJ G;ALIRHG;RUIH ;LAKJFAD;KG;O;lkang;lakiej ;WOEJ231409 7UEIOLKFJA;4LIH ;AQO3 TU;ALKRJALI ;HLITHB ;Q895UTP;IJ G;LI4J GQ094;BIJ;lik;ol4/89 gu;4ij 945 qj;lij ;lij 4ug094ugkj. << this actually spells something. research it!
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:20 PM   #15053 (permalink)
 
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How is your cactus doing?

I would research that but my computer is wounded and needs repair.

Ah.. the mystery...

I wonder what it says.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:35 PM   #15054 (permalink)
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:57 PM   #15055 (permalink)
 
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How is your cactus doing?

I would research that but my computer is wounded and needs repair.

Ah.. the mystery...

I wonder what it says.
doing fantastic! i now have 2. the original one is picking up speed. I may need to get a better holder for the branch till it gets solid.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:32 AM   #15056 (permalink)
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I must keep MOAB happy. 15056
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:48 AM   #15057 (permalink)
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oh for joy, another post to make it 15057
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:22 AM   #15058 (permalink)
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I believe wet dreams
could be a font of many truths,
if we could believe.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:28 AM   #15059 (permalink)
 
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upon awakening I was still a moist bint...
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:01 AM   #15060 (permalink)
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So...pass me the scimitar?
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:04 AM   #15061 (permalink)
 
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Dual ruling sounds fun...

I have a pretty pond to show you.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:00 AM   #15062 (permalink)
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I possess the means
to fill it if you'll let me...
See you tomorrow!!!
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:01 AM   #15063 (permalink)
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I'm goin' fishin' later today...for fish.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:13 AM   #15064 (permalink)
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Catch a few for me!
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:18 AM   #15065 (permalink)
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I will, jewels. What kind do you prefer? I'm mainly practicing my fly fishing skillz....but I hope to catch at least a trout and a smallmouth bass, and maybe a largemouth, too. I'll look it in the eyes and say "you're for jewels" before I let it go...take your pick.

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Old 07-31-2008, 02:50 PM   #15066 (permalink)
 
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wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. ?
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:25 PM   #15067 (permalink)
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I'm not big on lake bass, but I'll take some nice Chilean bass, if they speak Spanish.

Maybe some rainbow trout. It's been a long time.

Okay, I'll take anything.
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:30 PM   #15068 (permalink)
 
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I love to fish, Jewels..I'll even fillet them for you.
Trout is very good...how about some perch or blue-gill?

Trout is best fried at campside...I even like the skin...crispy goodness.

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:53 PM   #15069 (permalink)
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I love to fish, too. Lake only. I've caught catfish, blue gill, speckled perch (my fave). But I've never fished alone.

C'mon over, you can bait the hooks. I still can't quite handle live bait. No laughin' at that, 'kay?
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:02 PM   #15070 (permalink)
 
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I love fresh fish. mmm. best fish&chip is at Killarney provincial park. Tasty meal!!
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:06 PM   #15071 (permalink)
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Where's that, MOAB?
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:35 PM   #15072 (permalink)
 
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In ontario(CANADA). here is a google map link.

KILLARNEY
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:50 PM   #15073 (permalink)
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I can't make it right now, but save me some, please.
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Old 07-31-2008, 05:54 PM   #15074 (permalink)
 
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I will. when will you be there? the place is the nicest park to visit in ontario.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:11 PM   #15075 (permalink)
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How about walleye?
It's Minnesota's state fish,
I hear, though I don't.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:15 PM   #15076 (permalink)
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Actually, it must be breathtaking out there. I've been to Quebec and BC and I totally adore Vancouver (thinking about retiring there), but I should check out Ontario. I'll let you know.

OCM: Never had a walleye. Tell me more.

Just deep freeze it for now, or you can ship it or email it to me.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:25 PM   #15077 (permalink)
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MOAB,
I have quite a few relatives in Ontario, mostly in and around Toronto...a city I really like a lot...but anyway, looking at where Killarney is I see it's on the Georgian Bay. Over the years I've been up in some of those areas with my cousins. We spent a week on a small island in the Georgian Bay, down toward the southeastern end I think it was. I'm pretty sure Native American Canadian Indians owned the island. When we got to the "trading post" along the shore before going out to the island, the owner, who I think was also a NA, asked us if we wanted to rent his boat so we could water ski and fish, so we took him up on it since the price was right. When we saw this boat we laughed...it looked like a torquoise blue floating '57 Chevy with big fins in back. One late afternoon I took my cousin back to the dock on the mainland since he had somewhere to go and on my way back at about half way to the island the motor just died. Seemed like nothing I did could get it started and I was getting nervous since looking out over the Georgian Bay with dark ominous clouds forming and wind starting to stir up I could only think of the Edmund Fitzgerald going down and that's the direction the wind was blowing me. So I figure I'll give it one more try to start it and if this doesn't work, hell with the boat I'm jumping in and swimming to the island before I get too far to make it. Just then I see a motor boat approaching and and they come close but not right over, there are two Indians in it with rifles...they ask me how come I have their buddy's boat so I explain and tell them my problem...they just smile at each other and tell me "why don't you try connecting the fuel line to the motor?"...this stupid city slicker white man had knocked the line off from the gas tank and if not for their good humored help, perhaps Leonard Cohen would have written a song about me.

jewels,
well I went fishing...this was on the Brandywine!...I got better with my fly fishing techniques, but caught no fish. I don't really care, I wasn't hunting for dinner, just had fun and some tranquility.

ring,
I also love crispy fish skin of all kinds. I sort of look forward to eating fish with other people who peel the skin and put it aside, then I politely ask if they mind if I eat it...my family, too, they take off their fish skins and I eat em. Some sushi stuff also uses crispy fish skin and I eat a lot of sushi/sashimi, etc. As far as trout, once in a while I'll pan fry it with some shallots and butter, then last half minute I throw in some capers and spritz it with a spray of lemon...yum.

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I have a funny walleye story...it's true, no less. Many years ago, four or five of us were camping for a few days along a nice creek north of here in PA. My friend's family used to own the land and many years before we were even born his grandfather dynamited out a deep swimming hole, so we liked going there to swim...even nude swimming pretty often...and explore and just have a great time. I think I got a bit too stoned once and went off for a walk by myself to contemplate the universe; I walked up in the creek to see where it was going, most of it was sort of shallow; in a deeper spot that was about 4 feet deep I noticed a fish, so I slowly walked to the spot and now I'm standing about a foot from a good size walleye! and it's just sitting there treading water; so I reach down slowly and actually put my hand on the fish, start to lift it slowly upward and a couple inches from the surface it jumps out of my hand, I got quite startled...but I noticed it just moved over a few feet; so I go over to try again; this time I put one hand under it and one over it about mid point of its body, and slowly come together on it, and then I grab it and lift it out of the water quickly and I GOT IT! So this walleye was one of the bigger freshwater fish I had caught to that point and I got it bare handed So I walked back to camp with it, occasionally dipping it into water to keep it alive, and then showed it to one of my buddies who had been fishing but only catching small stuff with is fancy equipment. I let it go and it seemed fine.

Talk about the Universe, I like this pic which was just issued by NASA today...a shot of Mars, since the Phoenix Lander finally officially sampled ice today. This is an area west of the Nili Fossae trough on Mars, as seen by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.

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Old 08-01-2008, 06:02 AM   #15078 (permalink)
 
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My grandma was an avid walleye fisherwoman.
Here is a tad of info about them.




Meaning of the name
The common name, "walleye," comes from the fact that their eyes, like those of cats, reflect light. This eyeshine is the result of a light-gathering layer in the eyes called the tapetum lucidum which allows the fish to see well in low-light conditions. In fact, many anglers look for walleyes at night since this is when most major feeding patterns occur. Their eyes also allow them to see well in turbid waters (stained or rough, breaking waters) which gives them an advantage over their prey. Thus, walleye anglers will commonly look for days and locations where there is a good "walleye chop" (i.e., rough water). This excellent vision also allows the fish to populate the deeper regions in a lake and can often be found in deeper water. This also means that since they live and spawn in mostly in shallow waters, they can see onto or near the shore for disturbances in the water such as humans.


[edit] Physical description

Walleye, Sander vitreusWalleyes grow to about 75 cm (30 in) in length, and weigh up to about 7 kg (15 lb). The maximum recorded size for the fish is 107 cm (42 in) in length and 11.3 kg (25 lb) in weight. The growth rate depends partly on where in their range they occur, with southern populations often growing faster and larger. In general, females grow larger than males. Walleyes may live for decades; the maximum recorded age is 29 years. In heavily fished populations, however, few walleye older than 5 or 6 years of age are encountered. In North America, where they are heavily prized, their typical size when caught is on the order of 18-25 inches, substantially below their potential size.

Walleyes are largely olive and gold in colour (hence the French common name: doré -- golden). The dorsal side of a walleye is olive, grading into a golden hue on the flanks. The olive/gold pattern is broken up by five darker saddles that extend to the upper sides. The colour shades to white on the belly. The mouth of a walleye is large and is armed with many sharp teeth. The first dorsal and anal fins are spinous as is the operculum. Walleyes are distinguished from their close cousin the sauger by the white colouration on the lower lobe of the caudal fin which is absent on the sauger. In addition, the two dorsals and the caudal fin of the sauger are marked with distinctive rows of black dots which are absent from or indistinct on the same fins of walleyes.





[edit] Reproduction
In most of the species' range, the majority of male walleyes mature at age 3 or 4. Females normally mature about a year later. Adults migrate to tributary streams in late winter or early spring to lay eggs over gravel and rock, although there are open water reef or shoal spawning strains as well. Some populations are known to spawn on sand or on vegetation. Spawning occurs at water temperatures of 6 to 10° C (43 to 50° F). A large female can lay up to 500,000 eggs and no care is given by the parents to the eggs or fry. The eggs are slightly adhesive and fall into spaces between rocks. The incubation period for the embryos is temperature-dependent but generally lasts from 12 to 30 days. After hatching, the free-swimming embryo spends about a week absorbing the relatively small amount of yolk. Once the yolk has been fully absorbed, the young walleye begins to feed on invertebrates such as fly larvæ and zooplankton. After 40 to 60 days, juvenile walleyes become piscivorous. Thenceforth, both juvenile and adult walleyes eat fish almost exclusively, frequently yellow perch or ciscoes, moving onto bars and shoals at night to feed. Walleye also feed heavily on crayfish, minnows, leeches, and earthworms.


[edit] As food
The walleye is often considered to have the best tasting flesh of any freshwater fish, and, consequently, is fished recreationally and commercially. Because of its nocturnal feeding habits, it is most easily caught at night using live minnows or lures that mimic small fish. Most commercial fisheries for walleye are situated in the Canadian waters of the Great Lakes, but there are other locations as well.

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[edit] Fishing
Since walleyes have excellent visual acuity under low illumination levels, they tend to feed more extensively at dawn and dusk, on cloudy or overcast days and under choppy conditions when light penetration into the water column is disrupted. Although anglers interpret this as light avoidance, it is merely an expression of the walleye's competitive advantage over its prey under those conditions. Similarly, in darkly stained or turbid waters, walleye tend to feed throughout the day.

"Walleye chop" is a term used by walleye anglers for rough water typically with winds of 5 to 15 mph (7 to 24 km/h), and is one of the indicators for good walleye fishing due to the walleye's increased feeding activity during such conditions.

Because walleyes are popular with anglers, fishing for walleyes is regulated by most natural resource agencies. Management may include the use of quotas and length limits to ensure that populations are not over-exploited. As one example, in the state of Michigan, walleye of under 15" may not be legally kept.


[edit] Seasons
In springtime walleye will take almost any bait or lure, but may be more challenging to catch through the summer months. Fall often brings another peak of walleye feeding activity. Walleye are readily caught through the ice in winter, usually on jigs, jigging spoons or minnows.


[edit] Bait
Casting or trolling with spinners or minnow-imitating plugs is a good bet. Special worm harness rigs of spinners and beads are often trolled. Jigs, either traditional bucktails, or tipped with any of the modern plastics, a piece of worm or minnow are walleye angling favorites.

Live baits are often still-fished, drifted or trolled on slip-sinker or "bottom-bouncing" rigs. Excellent live bait choices are nightcrawlers, minnows, or leeches, all of which can be used on a jig.

When ice fishing walleye are caught jigging or on tip-ups. Tip-ups are generally set up with a dacron backing and a clear synthetic leader. For bait, the most common minnows are Fatheads and shiners. Size for bait is anywhere from 1 to 7 inches.


[edit] Minnesota

Large walleye statue at Mille Lacs in Garrison, MinnesotaThe walleye is the state fish of Minnesota. Its popularity with Minnesota residents means that the residents of that state consume more of the fish than in any other jurisdiction.

In 2004, it was revealed that some restaurants in the Minneapolis-St. Paul region had been substituting the less expensive, imported zander for the walleye indicated on the menu. Zander (pikeperch) is a closely-related species and is almost impossible to tell apart by taste, so the television station that did the exposé had to send samples of food for DNA testing. Though sold as "walleye," several samples were found to be zander, which is considered an illegal practice by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Zander is native to the Netherlands and Western Europe.

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Old 08-01-2008, 07:24 AM   #15079 (permalink)
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PA State Record Fish
Walleye (Sander vitreus)
Mike Holly
Bradford, PA
17 lb. 9 oz.
Allegheny Reservoir, Warren Co. 1980

No pic available of the above PA record walleye, but this one caught in Montana is 17.75 lbs. so it's about the same size.




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Old 08-01-2008, 08:08 AM   #15080 (permalink)
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What a cat!

Thanks for the walleye info, ring. I'm definitely gonna have to try that.

And I thought shnook was fab!
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