04-18-2006, 08:16 AM | #201 (permalink) | |
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04-18-2006, 12:14 PM | #204 (permalink) |
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I like the twist with Heller. I don't think it was the right move for him to make, but it's interesting. I don't think he's behind anything either, like some people have been speculating. He wanted the arrest warrant for Jack immediately rescinded and his daughter not harmed. If he wanted to protect himself, he knows to kill Jack immediately.
The only thing I didn't like about the episode was the ending. Is it just me, or couldn't Heller have shown the letter of resignation the President was about to sign to the Vice-President? Sure it's not signed, but the President was about to sign it, so he would have had to explain that to the VP. I think it would have been more believable for the President to have wiggled out of that situation if the unsigned letter wasn't sitting on the desk. -Tamerlain
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04-19-2006, 08:48 AM | #206 (permalink) | |
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04-20-2006, 03:19 PM | #208 (permalink) |
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Aaron missing... That would just be too bad. It's posible that he protects the President at all cost and under any surcomestances. It's also posable that he's trying to lure the First Lady out to the stables. But we don't have a motive.
All in all, I don't think Aaron's dead.
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04-24-2006, 08:17 PM | #209 (permalink) |
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i'm not sure why i still watch this show. it's a train wreck.
i've got to go back and watch the earlier seasons now, just to make sure that i haven't been falling for this crap for 5 five years and am only now catching on. techno-jargon, techno-jargon, ultra-fast dialog, techno-jargon, annoying 2d characters, techno-jargon. that about sums it up.
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04-25-2006, 12:46 AM | #211 (permalink) |
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I watch the show because it keeps me entertained and because Jack Bauer is such a thoroughly entrancing character. It's far from perfect, but it makes me happy on a week to week basis. Sure, it's riddled with plot holes, but I can look past that in the interests of enjoying the ride. Every time Chloe makes a horribly inappropriate comment, I get a good smirk. Every time Jack and Audrey have a cute" moment I "awwwwwwww." Every time Jack does something badass and ridiculous or a tac-team bursts in to save the day I cheer. And every time a character I like dies I'm crushed (insofar as you ever get crushed about TV characters dying, so I'm exaggerating, sue me).
If you don't like it, don't watch it. I've never understood why people have such a fascination with continuing to watch/listen to/play/read media they don't like just to complain about how much they didn't like it after the fact. Tonight's episode saw the re-emergence of the Season 2 slow to appear big conspiracy that's behind everything. That doesn't really bode well, since the season 2 conspiracy was kind of lame. Oh well, Jack stowing himself away in a plane that he doesn't know the destination of is pretty sweet, as were the tense interactions between Jack, Audrey and Christopher. Good stuff, good stuff. It's been a long week already and the episode put a smile on my face. Yay for that. |
04-25-2006, 03:22 AM | #212 (permalink) |
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it's just simply that I'm attached to the show. I loved it back in the day, and I want to get out of it what I got out of it in the past. I'm riding the season out, just because it's sort of earned a chance to redeem itself.
But, as Jack would say, time is running out! I'll just have to accept that the show is now a parody of its former self and move on... so can someone, just to make sure i'm not going crazy, tell me that this season (and, to a lesser extent, last season) are vastly different from the first three seasons?
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04-25-2006, 07:53 PM | #214 (permalink) |
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Yes, I've noticed the parallels with President Logan and President Bush as well, but it's not the first time the show has dealt with themes that mirrored what was going on in real life. The nuclear bomb going off in the desert happened while the "threat" of Iraqi WMDs was on everyone's mind leading up to the war. (wow, I just looked it up: that episode aired 3/4/2003, the war started on 3/20/2003. Makes you wonder if Rumsfeld is a fan... )
But that's not really what I'm talking about, in terms of how the show's different now. I guess what I'm asking is: was the show always this overt and melodramatic? I just felt the earlier seasons were more subtle (and, for me, more interesting) with their characterizations and plot lines. Now everthing feels over-the-top and in-your-face and unnecesarily fast-paced to make up for the show's shortcomings. I have no issue with the show not being all gung-ho USA (although I never thought of it like that). I think the idea of the President being the bad guy is good, but I'll still question the quality of the way in which they've executed that idea. Not really looking for a pissing contest here or anything... just trying to figure out what's happened to one of my favorite shows.
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04-25-2006, 09:23 PM | #215 (permalink) |
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To answer your question bluntly, yes. It has always been like this.
Season 1 is the best season, no question. And yet, it contains the worst side plot of all time: Terri losing her memory. Also, season 2 contained the same very late season behind the scenes conspiracy. Season 3 had that stupid drug-selling melodramatic side plot with the kid that ended up just being something to worry someone. It's part of the deal. I don't know why you're noticing it more now. Last edited by Frosstbyte; 04-25-2006 at 09:25 PM.. |
04-26-2006, 02:21 AM | #216 (permalink) |
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I'll definitely agree with you there, those plotlines were some of the low points of their respective seasons. And the problems I had with them are pretty much the same problems I have with this entire season, now that you mention it.... *shrug*....
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04-26-2006, 07:43 PM | #218 (permalink) |
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So if Bush parallels Logan... does that mean BUSH KILLED CLINTON?!
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04-27-2006, 07:26 PM | #221 (permalink) | |
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I dont believe that aaron is dead nor do i believe that the car going into the water killed him.
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04-28-2006, 10:14 AM | #222 (permalink) |
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Yeah, no way is Audrey's dad dead. I like the plot ending back up on the US goverment, but I don't really draw that many lines to real life. I think any writer uses current events or big historical moments as inspiration for their work. I think it's interesting that everyone involved though (Logan, and what's his name they found hung) thinks they are doing something good for the country. I'm wondering what that good is going to be.
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04-29-2006, 06:33 PM | #223 (permalink) | |
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05-02-2006, 07:10 AM | #224 (permalink) |
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Anyone else think that these ending hours really slow down on the action. I swear, the beginning hours of these seasons are all over the place as far as plot goes. Now each hour is kind of one idea. This hour - Jack on plane getting recording. I'm thinking next hour - plane getting shot down, or whatever is going to happen.
Also, the people the president is calling now. What's up with them, do we know their agenda yet? Or do we know why the president was in on this in the first place? I didn't think we were clued in to why they think this is for the good of the country. |
05-02-2006, 07:18 AM | #225 (permalink) | |
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I think it's kinda like a current illuminati thing. Season 2 - Program can create a recording that sounds like anyone Season 5 - Recording can take down a president.
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05-02-2006, 02:06 PM | #226 (permalink) |
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Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--28 2am-3am No Kills New Total=28 Wow, two consecutive hours and Jack hasn't killed anyone (tho he did kick the shit out of a couple guys on the plane). Nor does it look like he's going to get anyone next hour. In fact I am going to go so far as to say *28* is the magic number for this day. Jack's all done killin'.
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05-02-2006, 10:08 PM | #229 (permalink) |
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Oh man, that was the funniest 24 scene to date.
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05-03-2006, 12:50 AM | #230 (permalink) |
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There's a slight chance that by the last episode Jack might be on the ground and kicking some ass again, but, yeah, if he does break 30 kills, it's no going to be by much at all.
Additionally, Chloe is awesome. That's pretty much all there is to it. I can't figure out why Jack wouldn't play the recording over the phone to CTU just to end any problems of losing that recording, but what do I know? Excitement abounds! |
05-03-2006, 09:05 AM | #232 (permalink) | |
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Now, don't get me wrong, I agree with what you've said, that's the silliest thing ever in the history of 24... however, to play Devil's advocate... wasn't that hacker punk the only guy who could use the recording-making machine? And he's dead now, so, the President's recording couldn't be a fake the way the recording in Season 2 was, right?
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05-03-2006, 10:05 PM | #235 (permalink) |
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Um, so I guess when they searched Buchannan's house Wayne Palmer must have left already.
What about that suspect Vladmir Bierko Bauer saved from the Exploding gas plant? What about Henderson? And what the hell happened to Behrooz !?
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05-04-2006, 06:23 AM | #236 (permalink) | |
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05-08-2006, 09:02 PM | #239 (permalink) |
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So if I understand correctly, the snarky dude from Homeland waltzed into the room where Chloe was working on the recording with some bizarre device in his hand that emits red light, "sneakily" waved it near the recording while Chloe was working on it, and now the recording will be destroyed/corrupted/etc. and Chloe, despite working ON the recording, didn't notice.
Also, how has no one made a copy of this stupid thing yet? The first thing I would've done when I got it to CTU was copy it onto every computer in sight, e-mail it to myself, Congress, the New York Times. What genius idea did Chloe, Miss Paranoid, have of working on it only from the original and not saving it to her computer? That is some genius plot twist right there people. GENIUS. Alternately, it's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. zzz At least the stupid crap with Terri losing her memory didn't matter. This pretty much is a cheap ploy to get an extra episode or two. I am ashamed to be a 24 fan tonight. Last edited by Frosstbyte; 05-08-2006 at 09:20 PM.. |
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