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I thought it was great that they showed Locke doing something positive like carving the dog whistle to find Vincent for Walt, and then letting his dad take the credit. It's like the writers are trying to show he's one of the good guys. But did anyone else notice at the end of the show, they were playing happy, sappy music while panning all the people, and at the very last the camera stopped on Locke and the music changed to "forboding" and spooky? What's that supposed to imply?

Also, don't you think at least someone would point out that because of the possibility of never being rescued, they should find every single man-made item in the fuselage for future use? And the sooner the better considering it'll only get nastier the longer the dead bodies are in there.

Glad to see they still kept up the great pace in the first "normal" episode.

Ali

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Okay, I have to ask the question: why the hell don't they go find where that transmitter is? If I were stranded on a deserted island somewhere the first thing I would do is scout the island and make sure there's not a Club Med, or something, down the beach.

Also, where did all those tarps comes from? Sure seems handy.

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Besides just wandering about which seems unsafe due to the animals on the island, it's not easy to locate where a radio transmission is coming from without another radio and the ability to triangulate the signal.

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Yeah, after the polar bear (Which not everyone knows about), people aren't going to want to wander around. Everyone knows about the Scary Clanging Thing in the jungle, so they're not going to want to explore too much...

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Why are there still Spoiler: dead bodies. aboard the Spoiler: airplane? I would imagine the Spoiler: smell must be Spoiler: horrific by Spoiler: now.

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I know it's not easy to find the source of a transmitter without triangulation. But on what I assume is a smallish island, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to find the remains of a camp that was big enough to house a generator to run a radio transmitter for 16 years. (Solar? Wind? Nuclear? It's certainly not batteries or diesel).

I guess it hasn't been long enough since the crash, but I'm thinking monsters be damned, I'm checking out the island.

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Do we know how much time has actually passed since the crash?

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Going into the 3rd day I think....

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Himbo

"What's that supposed to imply?"

I'm thinking the old man has a thing for young boys or something. In the first episode didn't the old man start teaching the young boy Backgammon then say something like, "hey you want to know a secret" then the camera fades out. Then again at the end of last nights episode him staring that the father and son was just friggin creepy.

crossova

i was thinking that the Locke might be bad. didnt u see the coming attractions, somebody got a big suitcase of knives or weapons. i thought they burried the bodies already

Redlemon

The boy told his dad in the 3rd episode, "He said a miracle happened to you". Dad responded "A miracle happened to everybody, we survived the crash". (not exact quotes).

Didn't you like how the downpour ended immediately after his father said "I'll look for your dog when the rain stops"? I don't think that was coincidence...

Cynthetiq

it rains like that all over islands like that... squalls come and go instantly and quickly.

they are still setting up characters I'm still waiting to find out more about the island they are on.

Did they figure out how to make polar bear steaks?

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Fremen

From what I've gathered from different sites, I don't think there's anything mystical going on on the island.

speculation:Spoiler: From one guy comes a theory that the island is actually an inverted tropical island in a pocket of the South pole protected from viewing by the pole's magnetic waves. We-ird!

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i kinda wanted to watch the show before, but after listening to ya'll i am going to make it a point to watch it this week. THANKS!

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Averett

Definatly check it out!

Is it still going to be on tomorrow? What with the debates? I know the last debates were at 9pm, hoping this one is too. Don't take Lost from me!!

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according to zap2it, in NYC it will be on at 8pm like it's supposed to be.

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Good, I'll have something to watch while the debates are on (go TiVo)! (I looked up the same question about two hours ago, didn't want to miss Lost.)

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Okay Cynthetiq.... THAT is AWESOME!

I love me some Google, but why ask Google when there's TFP?

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anybody notice in mr. locke's (weird bald guy) flashbacks in tonight's episode that his boss told him to get working on his TPS reports?

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radioguy

i guess those things are real and not just in the movies! weird show tonight. i don't quite know what to make of mr. locke.

Fremen

Another great show tonight. Very interesting and revealing.
I still want to know how Locke got all those knives to Australia, given their strict weapons policies.

I liked the 'miracle' part of his story.

I'm still frustrated they haven't organized themselves into shelter builders, food providers and wood gatherers. (even though they managed it for the funeral)

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Tonights episode was the best so far. I love John Lockes secret. And has anyone noticed his name being "John Locke" Like the philosopher? I wonder if there's any connection.

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I agree Fremen, when are they going to finally start to attend to practical, everyday needs type things?! It's been 4 days and no one has thought of anything typical as far a survival goes. Tonight Hurley had to say "Dude, there is no food". Only in tonights episode when the wild boars showed up did they think to start looking for sustinance. Hello, who in their right mind (or 48 minds for that matter) doesn't think first and foremost about securing food when you're stranded on an island?

I realize the writers have all this fodder for storylines with so many people on the island, but they're skipping over the most basic needs/issues that the castaway's would have in their situation. O'kay, they have polar bears and tree shaking monsters to worry about, but so far, the encounters with those have only occured while people have ventured inland and not with anyone who's on the beach, which is the majority of the people. At first I was worried they'd turn the show silly with the "monster/s" and not pay enough attention to the characters. Now it seems they're paying good enough attention to the characters but are ignoring all the practicalities that they should be dealing with.

I still love this show and will stay with it to the end, I'm just a bit disappointed that it's not dealing realistically with the fact that these people are stranded on an island. They're not at a Club Med. The entire premise of the movie "Castaway" was Tom Hanks' battle with nature and struggling to survive. I hope soon they have at least a single episode that isin't about one of the characters, but rather, deals with obtaining food and securing shelter for everyone.

Oh, so now we know that Locke had some kind of miracle happen to him and that he's the only one who's actually seen the monster/s. He was also only about 15 ft. from the creature and wasn't killed or eaten by it for some reason and didn't tell anyone about it. Also that he was some kind of obsessive phone-sex freak/stalker to Helen. So, last episode they led us to believe he was a good guy with the Vincent/Walt thing and tonight they make him out to be someone you wouldn't want to associate with....weird.

And, Charlie's now out of his dope, should be interesting to see how his character behaves once he starts to detox. Damn, have to wait a week for the next installment!

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Seething

Spoiler: I got the feeling that Locke became depressed after losing the use of his legs, and that Helen was a conselour for a suicidal helpline. Locke seemed like Milton from Office Space before the crash, but now from some miracle he can walk again, and he's got a new backbone. I'm not sure why he wasn't eaten or killed by the monster, but that's assuming it even is a monster/creature. I'm sure that'll get explained in time.

Great show. I hope ABC is smart and at least lets this play out for the rest of the season.

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Fremen

In the flashback Helen mentions she would have to charge for another session if he talked longer.
I imagine suicide hotlines don't do that as a rule.

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Averett

Yup

I loved tonights episode. I like how they haven't focused on the survival aspects, they all are thinking that rescue people find them. But within the next weeks (like tonight) we'll see them hunting for more food and such.

I liked Locke's backstory. I didn't see the paralyzed thing coming at all. In the beginning I did wonder what the deal was with the focus of his foot wiggling. Guess we know now. Much more has tied in now too. When it first rained, Locke just stood in the rain, arms outstretched. The whole telling of Walt that a miracle happened - yeah, I'd say so!

I'm not sure that Locke really did see the monster. He sort of blacked out when the boar came at Michael, so he could have blacked out again when the monster came at him.

I love how this show is playing out. What's up with the ghostes that Jack was seeing? And Rose saying her husband is alive, and mentioned how other survivors could be thinking they're the only ones. (the tail section of the plane) Charlie is going to be goin crazy the next few episodes. I can't imagine detox from heroin is much fun!

Love love love this show!

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The monster didn't attack him; it approached him quite slowly, in fact. We had a camera from the monster's point of view, with the head about 10 feet off the ground. I'm not sure, but I think that Locke started to smile as that scene ended.

And who killed the boar, Locke or the monster?

Redlemon

I don't think this counts for spoiler tags. Seething was just taking a guess at what might have happened. And that's all the fun of a show such as this.

In my view, a spoiler would be something from an interview with a writer/castmember, or a leaked script, or something from the "previews of next week's show".

Averett

Yeah that wasn't made clear at all.

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My larger fears about this show:

a. I want it to wrap up at the end of the season. I don't want it to stretch out over multiple seasons.

b. Questions are almost always more interesting than answers. I don't want the show to let me down in the end.

c. 'a' and 'b' contradict each other; good luck to the writers!

mrklixx

And hope to god it doesn't get cancelled before some kind of resolution. (i.e. John Doe) I mean I know it's pretty popular right now, but I wouldn't put it past network execs to do something stupid.

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I had thought Locke was going to be the key to the whole show, that knowing more about him would solve some sort of mystery. But, now that we know his backstory, that's seeming unlikely.

I still think I would be exploring that island looking for shelter and/or the source of that mysterious transmission. Sayid was correct when he said there's a major power source keeping that transmission running, so his homemade triangulation equipment was supposed to help out. But, I can't imagine an assumedly uninhabited island could be so big that you couldn't walk around the perimeter in a couple of days.

Semi-related side note regarding TPS reports: I think that's probably just some writer giving a nod to Office Space. If you pay attention, Office Space references come up in a lot of TV shows. I was watching the season premiere of This Old House a season or two ago, and they were going to rebuild a home that had been damaged in a fire. In one scene when they were walking through the remains of the house a bright red (and obviously unburnt) stapler was placed on top of a charred desk.

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radioguy

just remembered, when they were reading the names of the dead, they mentioned my hometown!!! i've never heard it on tv before. it was pretty cool.

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I think the "TPS reports" were a nod to "Office Space", too. In the office scenes, Locke is borderline Milton!

Speculative thought about Hurley "Dude, there is no food":
Spoiler: If Hurley survives much past the second week on the island, will (was) the actor be made to go on a binge-diet? It would be, in my opinion, painfully obvious if the actor (Jorge Garcia) remains as hefty as he starts off as when there's little food... Or will they find a rich source of fattening food? (Polar bear blubber, anyone?)

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Fremen

Was wondering about that too, micah.
I hope he sticks with the show.
I also hope he's able to lose the weight for himself, too, 'cause I like him a lot as an actor, and I'd like to see him in other things.
He was pretty funny on 'Becker'.

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Speculation on "Lost" interpretation: I see a clear metaphor in the title of the show and the survivor's lives. They all seem to be 'lost' in some way or another, not just physically but spiritually and emotionally as well. We can see this clearly from the flashbacks, e.g., Locke, with his paralysis and sudden "cure"; the man and his son who have lost their wife/mother; Kate, whose life really has a lot of mystery to it ; Charlie, with the drugs. Jack, the Korean couple, the pregnant girl, the large guy, Sayid, the woman on the beach.....all of these people seem to be "lost".

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Cynthetiq

then how could the 16.5 million viewers be satisfied? I don't think that JJ Abrams would have made a show that was to span just one season. The setup is in place to be on the island for many seasons, that was the first thing that I was looking for in the opening 2 shows (i didn't watch the pilot, but the 2 hour rebroadcast.)

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Grancey, you can probably take that out of your spoiler. That's a good assesment of things going on I think

I wonder who the next backstory will be. I'm really looking forward to the Korean couple and Clair (pregnant woman)

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I want Hurley's backstory.