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Charlatan · 02-28-2005, 01:51 PM

James Callis the actor who plays Baltar was one of Bridget's mates in Bridget Jones' Diary... my wife pointed this out to me the other day.

MiSo · 02-28-2005, 08:18 PM

this series is awesome. it has a great storyline and great cast.

they couldn't have cast a better baltar. the guy nails the part perfectly.

and boomer, she's HOTT!!

Charlatan · 03-31-2005, 05:18 AM

Looks like we are going to get a season II!!!

I am really happy about this...

LINK

Battlestar Galactica flies again

The remake of classic 1970s space yarn Battlestar Galactica is flying again, as Sci-Fi Channel US okays a second, extended season of 20 episodes, once again with UK cabsat channel Sky1 onboard.

Since its debut last October, the drama has been "tremendous success" for Sky1, said the UK network's head of acquisitions, drama and comedy, David Smyth. Likewise, it was "a rating juggernaut," according to the US channel, where it ruled the 25-54 demo for cable networks for five Fridays.

Production on the new episodes is already underway in Vancouver, Canada, bringing the total to 33 hours – longer than the original 1970s version, which ran to just one season. NBC Universal International Television Distribution shops the show outside the UK and the US.

Battlestar Galactica is written and executive produced by Ronald D Moore (Carnivale, Mission Impossible 2) and executive produced by David Eick. Oscar nominees Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell resume their roles in the new season.

Moore, who has been working on six new scripts to resolve the cliffhangers of the first season, said the new season would "delve deeper into the show's religious themes and open up the Cylon world."

31 Mar 2005
© C21 Media 2005

MiSo · 04-01-2005, 12:31 AM

great news indeed!

can't wait till the next season. the show has tons of potential.

guthmund · 04-01-2005, 01:01 PM

Scuttlebutt is, from perusing the boards at Scifi, is that the new season is supposed to start in July.

This is a fantastic show.

By the way, the season finale is tonight on SciFi. I've been careful to avoid seeing any spoilers, but the concensus is that this episode is spectacular.

I hope they're right.

Willravel · 04-01-2005, 03:48 PM

I suspect that Battlestar will start in July with the two Stargates. I also suspect that at the rate it's going, Battlestar will outlive Stargate SG1 surely, and possibly Atlantis aswell.

Charlatan · 04-01-2005, 04:11 PM

I certainly hope so will but sometimes the brightest burn out fast... and Battlestar is really bright.

Willravel · 04-01-2005, 05:39 PM

I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

Fremen · 04-01-2005, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

**hugs willravel**

Willravel · 04-01-2005, 11:15 PM

Don't look unless you saw the Season Finale.Spoiler: Imigne my surprise. I natuarally assumed Edward James Olmos was bulletproof. Now I get to dispair until July.

guthmund · 04-02-2005, 12:08 AM

The obligatory HOLY FUCKING SHIT OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1!!! post

That had to be the single best season cliffhanger. Ever.

I was going to go listen to the Moore's podcast at Scifi before commenting on the season finale, but....well, I thought I better get that out of my system first.

Fremen · 04-02-2005, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

Don't look unless you saw the Season Finale.Spoiler: Imigne my surprise. I natuarally assumed Edward James Olmos was bulletproof. Now I get to dispair until July.

Yeah, it surprised a "Holy fucking shit!" out of me.
Especially who the perpetrator was.

MiSo · 04-02-2005, 02:45 AM

"holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!"

was my reaction to you know what...........

can't believe it, i was totally amazed, i would've never guessed it.

stevie667 · 04-02-2005, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

I suspect that Battlestar will start in July with the two Stargates. I also suspect that at the rate it's going, Battlestar will outlive Stargate SG1 surely, and possibly Atlantis aswell.

Visit Gateworld.net, they have loads of info on release dates and whatnot.

I can see BSG doing extremely well, just as long as they can keep up good scripts.

Charlatan · 04-02-2005, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

I am with you on this... give me one more season and I will build my own shrine...

Zeraph · 04-02-2005, 11:08 PM

I like this show and I don't. What I like is that it gives the feeling that almost any character could die, which makes them more real, but at the same time makes them less likeable as they are just some fiction character that may not even be around later.

The finale yesterday, was good.

I wonder how long this will last seeing as apparently the first only lasted a season. Though I just don't see THAT much else they could write about. They've already done the major stuff. But hey I'm not a script writer. Atlantis I'm wondering about too as SG-1 has already done the major stuff, and Atlantis isn't that much different a show. Guess it depends on how much the fans are willing to take.

BTW what is with the divine destiny theme? Seems a bit out of place for a sci fi (not that it can't be sci fi, just abnormal.)

Lestat · 04-02-2005, 11:11 PM

Edward James Olmos is the shit! Man, they couldn't of picked a better actor for that role! I can't wait til July, I'm hooked.

lordkos · 04-03-2005, 10:52 PM

I saw some ads for it and its been on a coupel times when flipping but i didnt really pay much attention to it.But sense there has been so many good remarks about it i think im going to watch it next time its on.

guthmund · 04-03-2005, 11:16 PM

It's my understanding from reading the boards over at Sci-Fi that the reason Moore had Adama shot was because he wasn't sure Olmos would be on board for a second season and needed a way to write him out of the show.

I don't know if there is any truth to it, but I found it interesting.

After watching a Battlestar marathon of the old series (I know, why bother, right?) and reading some of the threads about the older series, I'm particularly interested in who is going to show up in the new season of the new show.

Kadath · 04-05-2005, 06:14 PM

I have been avoiding this thread since Friday because I wasn't going to get to watch the finale until tonight and I knew I'd hit a spoiler. Now that guthmund has put it in the open, I guess we can discuss it.

It seems Olmos has signed on for season 2, so I guess he'll just not be very active in the first few episodes, which will let Tigh run the show and that character become a little more multi-dimensional, although I shudder to think of the power behind the throne that is Mrs. Tigh. I wonder what's going to happen to Apollo andf how they're going to keep Grace Park on the show; while the cliffhangers were exciting, the fact that it could have been the last episode (I imagine the show wasn't picked up for a second season until at least part way through the US run) means Moore may have written himself into at least one corner, but we shall see. I'm excited to see more of Richard Hatch in the second season -- his character is one of my favorites.

japhyryder · 04-06-2005, 04:23 AM

so many cliff hangers I am excited for the next season. Any idea when the new season is going to start?

thesupermikey · 04-06-2005, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by japhyryder

so many cliff hangers I am excited for the next season. Any idea when the new season is going to start?

July....mostly likey with the start of the new season of Stargate

guthmund · 04-06-2005, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadath

I have been avoiding this thread since Friday because I wasn't going to get to watch the finale until tonight and I knew I'd hit a spoiler. Now that guthmund has put it in the open, I guess we can discuss it.

I didn't ruin it for you, did I?

To be fair, I waited a couple of days, which is more than you normally get in some threads round here. Maybe all threads of this type should just be considered Caveat 'spoiler.'

I believe with Adama out indefinately, now would be a fantastic time to introduce some fresh blood. Not that the show needs it, but that seems to be the standard course.

Kadath · 04-07-2005, 09:49 AM

No worries, you didn't ruin anything. I avoided the thread until after I'd seen the finale, because, as you said, spoilers are expected in such a thread.

Ethan · 04-19-2005, 09:37 PM

I am a fan of the older series Battlestar Galactica. I have heard all the arguments about the story writing being lame from the original series, but the truth behind the story of how the show was produced would help anyone to understand why the older show had its weakpoints. Suffice it to say, had there been any real quality preparation, the older series would have been tons better. Still, I liked that the heros in the show were someone that I could look up to.

That being said, I still like the new series, even though it is not something that I can share with my 7 year old son. I have shared the old series with him but the new series is to adult for him. I have gotten tired of the 'Six' character, but the cliffhanger with the 'Boomer' character was outstanding. I wondered about the female Starbuck in the beginning, but I grew to like her more as the series went on.

I like Olmos character a lot, but then I've liked all the Olmos TV/Movie parts I've seen so far. (Stand and Deliver, and Miami Vice) I hope his character develops as the series goes on. Olmos is quoted as saying though that if they brought any wierd looking aliens on set that he would not want to stay with the production. In my opinion, this is Sci-Fi, and there is always potential for Aliens. I am curious what the baby lookes like that Baltar and Six were looking at in the end of the Season Finale. Besides, having her close to any babies weirded me out considering what happened the last time she was close to a baby. . . .

Hey, in the normal guy type of tradition, the scene with 10 naked Grace Parks was way, way, too short.

Can't wait for season two even though I am the only one in my family to be watching it. (Wife is not into Sci-Fi)

Ethan

Janey · 04-20-2005, 09:05 AM

i would love a pm from somebody who knows the details of the premise of this show. I gather the cylons and humans are at war, did the humans create the cylons? (I think so). Is this like a huge Forbin Project or Colussus type of concept to the nth degree?

Also, I am really curious about the timeline. Did Earth get colonized by the humans of Kobol? how long ago if so? or is it the other way around. At what point in our 'history' or 'future' is the cylon war supposed to take place?

Lebell · 04-20-2005, 09:46 AM

Being one of the few here that remembers eagerly sitting around the TV watching the FIRST Battlestar Galactica debut, I must say that I am very impressed with this reincarnation.

Of course we all expect the FX to be better, but the acting is very decent and Olmos is very good.

Lebell · 04-20-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Janey

i would love a pm from somebody who knows the details of the premise of this show. I gather the cylons and humans are at war, did the humans create the cylons? (I think so). Is this like a huge Forbin Project or Colussus type of concept to the nth degree?

Also, I am really curious about the timeline. Did Earth get colonized by the humans of Kobol? how long ago if so? or is it the other way around. At what point in our 'history' or 'future' is the cylon war supposed to take place?

Probably enough people don't know the show that a general post isn't uncalled for.

The premise behind BSG has changed several times since it's conception in the late 70's.

At first, the Cylons were supposed to be a lizard type race that wore armor and the humans were battling them. Then the network wigs got cold feet showing so much killing (even killing lizards) on TV, so the Cylons were turned into a sentient machine race.

With the new BSG, this was given a further twist. Ala "Terminator", now it is a machine race that human beings originally created, but then one that got smart and started rebelling against their former masters. After a peace treaty and years of separation (the Cylons went on to found their own civilization elsewhere), they are back after developing a Cylon model that is almost indistinguishable from a human being.

The original series had a great opener where Adama (played by Lorne Greene) gave a brief narration that answers the questions about Earth and the time line.

In brief, the question of when and where are somewhat unanswered. When briefly revived BSG as Galactica 80 (in 1980, go figure), we found out that Earth had indeed been a separate colony founded far away from the other human worlds and that the events of BSG were contemporary in time.

But part of the fun of BSG was that we didn't know if the ancients that founded the civilizations of Atlantis, Egypt, and Peru were a separate colony or were founded by those fleeing from the Cylons. In otherwords, we didn't know the timeline or who came from whom.

I suspect that we will see that continue with this show. At the end of the miniseries when Adama announces that the highest ranking military officers know the location of earth and then when the new President of the colonies confronts him, he confesses that it is just a smokescreen to give the people hope.

This leaves the same sorts of possibilities and it would be great to investigate them. Do the fleeing humans find Earth? Or do they find an uninhabited planet that becomes Earth?

Eitherway, it will be fun

Ethan · 04-20-2005, 10:37 PM

Janey,

From what I have heard and read in books and Online, the original Cylons from the 1978 series were in fact lizard-like aliens who were on the brink of extinction due to internal issues like civil wars in the Cylon homeworlds, etc. In order to try to save themselves, they took up mechanical suites and created mechanical (robotic) service . . . Dare I use the term . . . droids. There were 'lower-class' Robotic Cylons and the extreme 'upper-class' Cylons that were more biologicaly independent of their machines.

In the new series, Aliens didn't come into play for the colonies. The Cylons were renegade A.I. that rebelled against humankind. When the machines realized that the Humans would win their war, they declared an armistice, and secluded themselves away from the humans for over forty years. The new series storyline happens as a direct effect of the Cylons coming back to finish the war that they fought in the past.

I hope this helps your understanding about the bad guys in the show. I would enjoy PM-ing you if there is anything else that I could explain as far as BSG is concerned. I have yahoo messenger and will try to contact you if you want.

Ethan

Mondak · 04-22-2005, 03:00 PM

Ok so I have something unbelievable. I have watched every episode of BSG and have pretty much made everything come to a complete stop when it is on each week. Since I am a skier, many times I am away and well - long story short, one of the guys I ski with gave me a copy of the script for the First Episode of the second season for my Birthday. I was going crazy after the final episode of the season and it was one of the neatest presents I ever got. I don't want to post things from it on like the SCI-FI forum - not that I have ever posted anything there. But at the TFP, it is a closed enough of a community that I think it would be okay to share the important details with you all.

I am absolutely sure of its authenticity because I know what he does for a living and for what it looks like (it is a photocopy and it is easy to tell it is not just some test thing or anything).

It is only the first episode and gives no clues to what happens the rest of the season.

Before I post a summary, I wanted to ask if I should put it in a seperate thread or use the spoiler white out tags or whatever?

I feel super privledged and have never had anything like this before - I'm just not that guy and have few Hollywood connections. I thought it would be neat to share this with my friends at the TFP who are bigs fans so you can share in my bounty.

To give you an idea of what happens without giving anything away, the Episode ties up some loose ends from last season and does a lot of flashbacks that explain Tigh and Adama's relationship / past.

Fremen · 04-22-2005, 10:09 PM

Damn, I want to view those details so bad, Mondak, but I think I'll wait till it comes back on this Summer.

Probably best to put it in spoiler tags.

I wonder if I can restrain myself...

Ethan · 04-22-2005, 10:10 PM

I would be very interested in hearing about what will happen in the new episode. It would not bother me in the slightest. I am a member of another forum especially focused on Battlestar Galactica and what you might say might help me to understand what they are all talking about.

Ethan

Seeker · 04-22-2005, 10:51 PM

Hi all, I live in Australia and from what I've read here I'm not sure where we are situated in relation to the new series. Would it be safe to assume that the series I am currently watching is what was presented to you as a mini series? Happy to receive PM's to discuss. I'm loving it and I find myself going WTF often!

Mondak · 04-23-2005, 09:09 AM

Allright well here it is.

Episode #1 Season 2: "Scattered"

Spoiler:
The Episode starts out as a flashback and has a scene where Adama and Tigh meet. Tigh gets in a barfight and Adama kicks some ass and has his back. There is some background given about them and what they were doing in their early days of their career.

Flash to Glactica and basiclly they go to great lenghts to describe to utter pandamonium that is going on in the CIC. Lee is freaking out since he is still restrained but his father his shot, they are trying to get paramedics in there and Sharon in sobbing, confused and sad. The doctor is not aboard the ship and all they have are the paramedics. There is some beatdown of Sharon which adds more noise when at that moment the alarms start going off that a Cylon Raider has dropped out of FTL or whatever.

After a moment of decision, Tigh gives the order for an FTL jump to their emergency coordinates.

Lee and the president are in the brig and there are some conversations there. Lee is mad he is in there with his father dieing. Meanwhile the Marines give Sharon a good beatdown and lock her in a small bin.

Turns out that after completing the jump, they are the only ones there, no other ships from the fleet are there. In the confusion, Gaeta didn't transmit the newest coordinates to the fleet.

On Kobol, now Baltar's dreams have Adama in them with Six. Baltar has a baby that he is carrying around and Adama tries to kill it. Six does her usual crypitic talk about the future and god and the beautiful baby. There is a bunch of stuff that happens on Kobol. The long and short of it is that the preverbial guy in the red shirt ala star trek gets it and the LT shows he is a dumbass who really has no idea what he is doing.

Back on the ship - Tigh tells the President to pound salt when she wants him to go to the brig and talk to her. Turns out that the coordinates of the jump have a constant plus are constantly varied by a random factor unique to whatever their position is called Inertial Drift. So they can't just jump to the previously transmitted coordinates. They have no idea where the fleet would have gone.

The only way to figure out where the fleet went is to jump back to where they were, recalculate the coordinates and then jump to their location. To do the calculation becuase they have to recreate the conditions or whatever, it would take the computer 12 hours to do it.

Back on Caprica, Starbuck wants to kill Sharon but Helo won't let her. When Helo and Sharon are going to leave in the Raider, Helo can't leave Sharon there. Helo goes back to find her. When they look back after a while, a squad of Cylons are at the Raider.

There is some stuff with Leoben (the Cylon that Adama hates and gets in everyone's head) where he keeps telling the President that this has all happened before and will happen again.

Another flashback shows Adama and Tigh in yet another barfight. Adama the force of reason. 10 years of barfights at that point.

The search for the fleet is fruitless and Tigh does not want to jump back and recalculate since there are likely Cylons there.

Gaeta comes up with a plan to jump back, network all the computers, do the calculation in 10 minutes and then jump out. Of course, networked computers are the thing the Cylons use to take over ships and systems. Gaeta thinks tha he can design a software firewall that will hold for the 10 minutes needed. Tigh doesn't like the plan. Adama will die if they don't get the surgeon on board soon to do the surgery.

He has a flashback to when Adama become a captain and had his own ship. Adama promoted Tigh to be his XO. Decides to chance it.

They give Lee parole so he can fly his Viper since the targeting computers will be down and they will be calcualting the jump coordinates and they need all the Vipers in the air.

After they jump in, there is one big fat Raider who is trying to hack the system while a bunch of other Raiders are attacking. No one knows that is the one, but the firewall is going down and the calcualtions are grinding to a hlt. Vipers are fighting them off, the guns on the galactics are missing everything.

The medics have to operate on Adama to repair his spleen and other leaking bits. None of them have ever operated, just patched field holes.

Lee notices the Fat Raider and fights his way through to blow it up. The guns are back online, the calcualtion is complete and the Vipers get back aboard the Galactica. They Jump out, rejoin the fleet and save Adama.

The ending flashback is kinda neat where Tigh gets promoted to join Adama (I had it a little out of order above).

......

Overall not THAT much happens I suppose. Adama is not completly out of the woods when it ends, Baltar et all are still on Kobol and Starbuck and Helo are still on Caprica. Either way - I can't wait for season two to begin. I have a lot of converts that have started watching the show after I told them about it and I know it will be good.

Do me a favor and don't share this outside the TFP. I don't think anyone can get in trouble and he didn't seem to care too much that it got out, but keep it somewhat under wraps. As you can see it is pretty detailed and could ruin things for SCIFI

Ethan · 04-24-2005, 09:45 PM

Mondak

thanks for the info. Its cool with me to keep it under wraps.

Ethan.

bparker805 · 04-26-2005, 01:41 PM

And season 2 starts when?

Mondak · 04-26-2005, 05:28 PM

From what I understand July. The Script was dated February 9th.

guthmund · 04-27-2005, 12:08 AM

I couldn't help it. I read it.

The season finale was just too much. I had to know what happened. I am a weak, weak man.

thanks, Mondak for putting that up. You have good friends that give you such things.

stevie667 · 04-27-2005, 02:52 AM

Holy moly thats going to be a good season.

Sealed lips from me too

Edit: Cheers Mondak!

japhyryder · 04-27-2005, 04:45 AM

It is totally killing me I don't know how long I can hold out until it starts.

02-28-2005, 01:51 PM	#81 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	James Callis the actor who plays Baltar was one of Bridget's mates in Bridget Jones' Diary... my wife pointed this out to me the other day. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

03-31-2005, 05:18 AM	#83 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Looks like we are going to get a season II!!! I am really happy about this... LINK Battlestar Galactica flies again The remake of classic 1970s space yarn Battlestar Galactica is flying again, as Sci-Fi Channel US okays a second, extended season of 20 episodes, once again with UK cabsat channel Sky1 onboard. Since its debut last October, the drama has been "tremendous success" for Sky1, said the UK network's head of acquisitions, drama and comedy, David Smyth. Likewise, it was "a rating juggernaut," according to the US channel, where it ruled the 25-54 demo for cable networks for five Fridays. Production on the new episodes is already underway in Vancouver, Canada, bringing the total to 33 hours – longer than the original 1970s version, which ran to just one season. NBC Universal International Television Distribution shops the show outside the UK and the US. Battlestar Galactica is written and executive produced by Ronald D Moore (Carnivale, Mission Impossible 2) and executive produced by David Eick. Oscar nominees Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell resume their roles in the new season. Moore, who has been working on six new scripts to resolve the cliffhangers of the first season, said the new season would "delve deeper into the show's religious themes and open up the Cylon world." 31 Mar 2005 © C21 Media 2005 __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

04-01-2005, 01:01 PM	#85 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	Scuttlebutt is, from perusing the boards at Scifi, is that the new season is supposed to start in July. This is a fantastic show. By the way, the season finale is tonight on SciFi. I've been careful to avoid seeing any spoilers, but the concensus is that this episode is spectacular. I hope they're right. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

04-01-2005, 04:11 PM	#87 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I certainly hope so will but sometimes the brightest burn out fast... and Battlestar is really bright. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

04-02-2005, 12:08 AM	#91 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	The obligatory HOLY FUCKING SHIT OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1!!! post That had to be the single best season cliffhanger. Ever. I was going to go listen to the Moore's podcast at Scifi before commenting on the season finale, but....well, I thought I better get that out of my system first. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

02-28-2005, 08:18 PM	#82 (permalink)
MiSo Psycho	this series is awesome. it has a great storyline and great cast. they couldn't have cast a better baltar. the guy nails the part perfectly. and boomer, she's HOTT!!

04-01-2005, 12:31 AM	#84 (permalink)
MiSo Psycho	great news indeed! can't wait till the next season. the show has tons of potential.

04-01-2005, 03:48 PM	#86 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I suspect that Battlestar will start in July with the two Stargates. I also suspect that at the rate it's going, Battlestar will outlive Stargate SG1 surely, and possibly Atlantis aswell.

04-01-2005, 05:39 PM	#88 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I've built a shrine to the force of nature that is Edward James Olmos. Olmos' Commander William Adama is possibly the best character in science fiction today. I hate to say it, but he gives Picard a run for his money (I don't say that lightly).

04-01-2005, 11:15 PM	#90 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Don't look unless you saw the Season Finale.Spoiler: Imigne my surprise. I natuarally assumed Edward James Olmos was bulletproof. Now I get to dispair until July.

04-02-2005, 02:45 AM	#93 (permalink)
MiSo Psycho	"holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!" was my reaction to you know what........... can't believe it, i was totally amazed, i would've never guessed it.

04-02-2005, 11:08 PM	#96 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	I like this show and I don't. What I like is that it gives the feeling that almost any character could die, which makes them more real, but at the same time makes them less likeable as they are just some fiction character that may not even be around later. The finale yesterday, was good. I wonder how long this will last seeing as apparently the first only lasted a season. Though I just don't see THAT much else they could write about. They've already done the major stuff. But hey I'm not a script writer. Atlantis I'm wondering about too as SG-1 has already done the major stuff, and Atlantis isn't that much different a show. Guess it depends on how much the fans are willing to take. BTW what is with the divine destiny theme? Seems a bit out of place for a sci fi (not that it can't be sci fi, just abnormal.)

04-02-2005, 11:11 PM	#97 (permalink)
Lestat Psycho Location: Riverside, CA	Edward James Olmos is the shit! Man, they couldn't of picked a better actor for that role! I can't wait til July, I'm hooked. __________________ I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it. - Jack Handy

04-03-2005, 10:52 PM	#98 (permalink)
lordkos Upright	I saw some ads for it and its been on a coupel times when flipping but i didnt really pay much attention to it.But sense there has been so many good remarks about it i think im going to watch it next time its on.

04-03-2005, 11:16 PM	#99 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	It's my understanding from reading the boards over at Sci-Fi that the reason Moore had Adama shot was because he wasn't sure Olmos would be on board for a second season and needed a way to write him out of the show. I don't know if there is any truth to it, but I found it interesting. After watching a Battlestar marathon of the old series (I know, why bother, right?) and reading some of the threads about the older series, I'm particularly interested in who is going to show up in the new season of the new show. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

04-05-2005, 06:14 PM	#100 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	I have been avoiding this thread since Friday because I wasn't going to get to watch the finale until tonight and I knew I'd hit a spoiler. Now that guthmund has put it in the open, I guess we can discuss it. It seems Olmos has signed on for season 2, so I guess he'll just not be very active in the first few episodes, which will let Tigh run the show and that character become a little more multi-dimensional, although I shudder to think of the power behind the throne that is Mrs. Tigh. I wonder what's going to happen to Apollo andf how they're going to keep Grace Park on the show; while the cliffhangers were exciting, the fact that it could have been the last episode (I imagine the show wasn't picked up for a second season until at least part way through the US run) means Moore may have written himself into at least one corner, but we shall see. I'm excited to see more of Richard Hatch in the second season -- his character is one of my favorites. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-06-2005, 04:23 AM	#101 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	so many cliff hangers I am excited for the next season. Any idea when the new season is going to start? __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

04-07-2005, 09:49 AM	#104 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	No worries, you didn't ruin anything. I avoided the thread until after I'd seen the finale, because, as you said, spoilers are expected in such a thread. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-19-2005, 09:37 PM	#105 (permalink)
Ethan Upright Location: Southern Nevada	BSG I am a fan of the older series Battlestar Galactica. I have heard all the arguments about the story writing being lame from the original series, but the truth behind the story of how the show was produced would help anyone to understand why the older show had its weakpoints. Suffice it to say, had there been any real quality preparation, the older series would have been tons better. Still, I liked that the heros in the show were someone that I could look up to. That being said, I still like the new series, even though it is not something that I can share with my 7 year old son. I have shared the old series with him but the new series is to adult for him. I have gotten tired of the 'Six' character, but the cliffhanger with the 'Boomer' character was outstanding. I wondered about the female Starbuck in the beginning, but I grew to like her more as the series went on. I like Olmos character a lot, but then I've liked all the Olmos TV/Movie parts I've seen so far. (Stand and Deliver, and Miami Vice) I hope his character develops as the series goes on. Olmos is quoted as saying though that if they brought any wierd looking aliens on set that he would not want to stay with the production. In my opinion, this is Sci-Fi, and there is always potential for Aliens. I am curious what the baby lookes like that Baltar and Six were looking at in the end of the Season Finale. Besides, having her close to any babies weirded me out considering what happened the last time she was close to a baby. . . . Hey, in the normal guy type of tradition, the scene with 10 naked Grace Parks was way, way, too short. Can't wait for season two even though I am the only one in my family to be watching it. (Wife is not into Sci-Fi) Ethan

04-20-2005, 09:05 AM	#106 (permalink)
Janey Junkie Location: Toronto	i would love a pm from somebody who knows the details of the premise of this show. I gather the cylons and humans are at war, did the humans create the cylons? (I think so). Is this like a huge Forbin Project or Colussus type of concept to the nth degree? Also, I am really curious about the timeline. Did Earth get colonized by the humans of Kobol? how long ago if so? or is it the other way around. At what point in our 'history' or 'future' is the cylon war supposed to take place?

04-20-2005, 09:46 AM	#107 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Being one of the few here that remembers eagerly sitting around the TV watching the FIRST Battlestar Galactica debut, I must say that I am very impressed with this reincarnation. Of course we all expect the FX to be better, but the acting is very decent and Olmos is very good. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

04-20-2005, 10:37 PM	#109 (permalink)
Ethan Upright Location: Southern Nevada	BSG Cylon History Janey, From what I have heard and read in books and Online, the original Cylons from the 1978 series were in fact lizard-like aliens who were on the brink of extinction due to internal issues like civil wars in the Cylon homeworlds, etc. In order to try to save themselves, they took up mechanical suites and created mechanical (robotic) service . . . Dare I use the term . . . droids. There were 'lower-class' Robotic Cylons and the extreme 'upper-class' Cylons that were more biologicaly independent of their machines. In the new series, Aliens didn't come into play for the colonies. The Cylons were renegade A.I. that rebelled against humankind. When the machines realized that the Humans would win their war, they declared an armistice, and secluded themselves away from the humans for over forty years. The new series storyline happens as a direct effect of the Cylons coming back to finish the war that they fought in the past. I hope this helps your understanding about the bad guys in the show. I would enjoy PM-ing you if there is anything else that I could explain as far as BSG is concerned. I have yahoo messenger and will try to contact you if you want. Ethan

04-22-2005, 03:00 PM	#110 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Ok so I have something unbelievable. I have watched every episode of BSG and have pretty much made everything come to a complete stop when it is on each week. Since I am a skier, many times I am away and well - long story short, one of the guys I ski with gave me a copy of the script for the First Episode of the second season for my Birthday. I was going crazy after the final episode of the season and it was one of the neatest presents I ever got. I don't want to post things from it on like the SCI-FI forum - not that I have ever posted anything there. But at the TFP, it is a closed enough of a community that I think it would be okay to share the important details with you all. I am absolutely sure of its authenticity because I know what he does for a living and for what it looks like (it is a photocopy and it is easy to tell it is not just some test thing or anything). It is only the first episode and gives no clues to what happens the rest of the season. Before I post a summary, I wanted to ask if I should put it in a seperate thread or use the spoiler white out tags or whatever? I feel super privledged and have never had anything like this before - I'm just not that guy and have few Hollywood connections. I thought it would be neat to share this with my friends at the TFP who are bigs fans so you can share in my bounty. To give you an idea of what happens without giving anything away, the Episode ties up some loose ends from last season and does a lot of flashbacks that explain Tigh and Adama's relationship / past. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

04-22-2005, 10:09 PM	#111 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	Damn, I want to view those details so bad, Mondak, but I think I'll wait till it comes back on this Summer. Probably best to put it in spoiler tags. I wonder if I can restrain myself... __________________ Google

04-22-2005, 10:10 PM	#112 (permalink)
Ethan Upright Location: Southern Nevada	Spoiler I would be very interested in hearing about what will happen in the new episode. It would not bother me in the slightest. I am a member of another forum especially focused on Battlestar Galactica and what you might say might help me to understand what they are all talking about. Ethan

04-22-2005, 10:51 PM	#113 (permalink)
Seeker Getting Clearer Location: with spirit	Hi all, I live in Australia and from what I've read here I'm not sure where we are situated in relation to the new series. Would it be safe to assume that the series I am currently watching is what was presented to you as a mini series? Happy to receive PM's to discuss. I'm loving it and I find myself going WTF often! __________________ *To those who wander but who are not lost...* ~ Knowledge is not something you acquire, it is something you open yourself to.

04-23-2005, 09:09 AM	#114 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	Allright well here it is. Episode #1 Season 2: "Scattered" Spoiler: The Episode starts out as a flashback and has a scene where Adama and Tigh meet. Tigh gets in a barfight and Adama kicks some ass and has his back. There is some background given about them and what they were doing in their early days of their career. Flash to Glactica and basiclly they go to great lenghts to describe to utter pandamonium that is going on in the CIC. Lee is freaking out since he is still restrained but his father his shot, they are trying to get paramedics in there and Sharon in sobbing, confused and sad. The doctor is not aboard the ship and all they have are the paramedics. There is some beatdown of Sharon which adds more noise when at that moment the alarms start going off that a Cylon Raider has dropped out of FTL or whatever. After a moment of decision, Tigh gives the order for an FTL jump to their emergency coordinates. Lee and the president are in the brig and there are some conversations there. Lee is mad he is in there with his father dieing. Meanwhile the Marines give Sharon a good beatdown and lock her in a small bin. Turns out that after completing the jump, they are the only ones there, no other ships from the fleet are there. In the confusion, Gaeta didn't transmit the newest coordinates to the fleet. On Kobol, now Baltar's dreams have Adama in them with Six. Baltar has a baby that he is carrying around and Adama tries to kill it. Six does her usual crypitic talk about the future and god and the beautiful baby. There is a bunch of stuff that happens on Kobol. The long and short of it is that the preverbial guy in the red shirt ala star trek gets it and the LT shows he is a dumbass who really has no idea what he is doing. Back on the ship - Tigh tells the President to pound salt when she wants him to go to the brig and talk to her. Turns out that the coordinates of the jump have a constant plus are constantly varied by a random factor unique to whatever their position is called Inertial Drift. So they can't just jump to the previously transmitted coordinates. They have no idea where the fleet would have gone. The only way to figure out where the fleet went is to jump back to where they were, recalculate the coordinates and then jump to their location. To do the calculation becuase they have to recreate the conditions or whatever, it would take the computer 12 hours to do it. Back on Caprica, Starbuck wants to kill Sharon but Helo won't let her. When Helo and Sharon are going to leave in the Raider, Helo can't leave Sharon there. Helo goes back to find her. When they look back after a while, a squad of Cylons are at the Raider. There is some stuff with Leoben (the Cylon that Adama hates and gets in everyone's head) where he keeps telling the President that this has all happened before and will happen again. Another flashback shows Adama and Tigh in yet another barfight. Adama the force of reason. 10 years of barfights at that point. The search for the fleet is fruitless and Tigh does not want to jump back and recalculate since there are likely Cylons there. Gaeta comes up with a plan to jump back, network all the computers, do the calculation in 10 minutes and then jump out. Of course, networked computers are the thing the Cylons use to take over ships and systems. Gaeta thinks tha he can design a software firewall that will hold for the 10 minutes needed. Tigh doesn't like the plan. Adama will die if they don't get the surgeon on board soon to do the surgery. He has a flashback to when Adama become a captain and had his own ship. Adama promoted Tigh to be his XO. Decides to chance it. They give Lee parole so he can fly his Viper since the targeting computers will be down and they will be calcualting the jump coordinates and they need all the Vipers in the air. After they jump in, there is one big fat Raider who is trying to hack the system while a bunch of other Raiders are attacking. No one knows that is the one, but the firewall is going down and the calcualtions are grinding to a hlt. Vipers are fighting them off, the guns on the galactics are missing everything. The medics have to operate on Adama to repair his spleen and other leaking bits. None of them have ever operated, just patched field holes. Lee notices the Fat Raider and fights his way through to blow it up. The guns are back online, the calcualtion is complete and the Vipers get back aboard the Galactica. They Jump out, rejoin the fleet and save Adama. The ending flashback is kinda neat where Tigh gets promoted to join Adama (I had it a little out of order above). ...... Overall not THAT much happens I suppose. Adama is not completly out of the woods when it ends, Baltar et all are still on Kobol and Starbuck and Helo are still on Caprica. Either way - I can't wait for season two to begin. I have a lot of converts that have started watching the show after I told them about it and I know it will be good. Do me a favor and don't share this outside the TFP. I don't think anyone can get in trouble and he didn't seem to care too much that it got out, but keep it somewhat under wraps. As you can see it is pretty detailed and could ruin things for SCIFI __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860) Last edited by Mondak; 04-23-2005 at 09:12 AM..

04-24-2005, 09:45 PM	#115 (permalink)
Ethan Upright Location: Southern Nevada	Spoiler Mondak thanks for the info. Its cool with me to keep it under wraps. Ethan.

04-26-2005, 01:41 PM	#116 (permalink)
bparker805 is KING! Location: On the path to Valhalla.	And season 2 starts when?

04-26-2005, 05:28 PM	#117 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	From what I understand July. The Script was dated February 9th. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

04-27-2005, 12:08 AM	#118 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	I couldn't help it. I read it. The season finale was just too much. I had to know what happened. I am a weak, weak man. thanks, Mondak for putting that up. You have good friends that give you such things. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

04-27-2005, 02:52 AM	#119 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	Holy moly thats going to be a good season. Sealed lips from me too Edit: Cheers Mondak! __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information. Last edited by stevie667; 04-27-2005 at 08:10 AM..

04-27-2005, 04:45 AM	#120 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	It is totally killing me I don't know how long I can hold out until it starts. __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.