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Wolverine's entire skeleton was laced with Adamantium, redering his bones virtually unbreakable, courtesey of the Canadian Weapon X program. At some point, the adamantium was ripped out through his skin by Magneto in the Fatal Attractions crossover series. He also has three claws on each hand which until that time were believed to be pure Adamantium. When, the Adamantium was removed, however, it was revealed that his claws were bone, and therefore he must have been born with them. The Adamantium had laced these too, giving them the appearance of metal and rendering them virtually unbreakable as well.


Now where the hell is my pocket protecter?

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It was 1993 when Magneto joined forces with the Acolytes in the Fatal Attractions series. The tittle of the comic was X-Men (Vol. 2) #25 "Death of Dream in this Final Battle!" I still have the '94 Flair (#118) AND the '95 Fleer Untra (#121) comic cards. Hey where do you find out how much old comic cards are worth?

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jorgelito

Thanks for the clarification you nerds But since the adamantium part was man made, his "mutation" was the regenerative effect yes?

So to refer back to the thread now, the regenerative effect of Wolverine can be contrued as analagous to Claire Bennet (the cheerleader) in Heroes correct?

Oh here, you dropped your pocket protector...

Willravel

Yes. Their powers seem to be similar or the same.

Sultana

I have to say I'm a little concerned for Peter, because...he thinks he can fly, like his brother! What's gonna happen if/when he flings himself off a skyscraper when his brother's not around?!? I know he didn't get much camera time afterwards, but when he painted the future in the Artist's apartment (sorry, I'm not great about remembering character's names--except for Nikki/Jessica! ), he didn't make a big deal out of this "second" superhuman ability.

I don't think he's gonna get to be too god-like, because you have to have time to master those skills, and he hasn't done too much even with the one skill he's demonstrated more than one time.

I'm still confused about The Haitian.

Grrr, I want to post what could be a spoiler, but I don't know how.

Oh, and what is going on with the cop who can read minds? He's being awfully passive--and that chick he's working with is *extremely* unprofessional, whiney, and annoying. I feel like his character is being completely under-developed.

So Radiation dude is out of the slammer. He needs to be tranquilized if they ever hope to contain him. That so sucks that he caused the death of his wife--classic hero stuff there. I feel like even *his* character is being dealt with in a more interesting way than the cop.

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Sultana

Thanks Daval!

OK, what do you think of: Spoiler: Clair's Dad using Nikki's husband to mess with people's memories? Initially I thought that Nikki's husband was Skyler (sp) because of the whole brain/memory connection, but now obviously that's wrong. Could Nikki's hubby be The Haitian? Although yeah, of course he doesn'thave an accent--but I still don't get how anyone could briefly interact with someone and say, "That Haitian guy..."

To be honest, I don't know if that merited a spoiler thingy, but I'd rather err on the side of caution.

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jorgelito

No, Sultana, Nikki's husband is D.L. and the mind eraser is the Haitian. They're two different people. They look nothing alike but I can see where your confusion comes from.

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Siege

Finished watching today's ep.

I didn't think it was anything special. But is anyone curious as to how Peter was able to fix his foot after Claire had walked away?

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ratbastid

You kidding? I thought tonight's episode totally kicked ass! Peter saved the cheerleader. Presumably therefore also saved the world.

Peter retains some "leech power" after being in contact with another special person. remember--it was later in the day after seeing Isaac that he sketched himself flying on the rooftop.

My only question is: where were Hiro and Ando? Isaac painted them at the highschool--looking at a "Homecoming" banner that was dripping with blood. But that painting happened before Hiro went back to save Memory Girl (I'm so bad with TV names!). He must have changed the timeline, preventing himself from showing up at the homecoming game, I guess. Ando's still sitting at the diner. No telling where Hiro is in the "current" timeline--though from the "next time on", we'll probably find that out.

Siege

Ah, but you assume that Claire is the cheerleader Hiro is referring to. What if the league of super people need a complete bitch who is now dead???


(Unless of course future Hiro actually did mention that it was Claire that needed to be saved)

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Moskie

I thought this was a great episode! It's nice to see a show deliver on it's promises for once (yes, i'm talking to you, Lost). I was afraid for a second that Sylar died in the fall, which would have been a very anti-climatic end to a cool villain.

It's cool how Peter just sort of casually let it be known that he's aware of what his powers acutally are. It seemed like for a while he was a bit oblivious to it.

Sylar slowly killing (did she actually die?) the bitch cheerleader was suffiently creepy.

A little bit of development between Claire and her boy toy friend is always nice.

The Nikki/Jessica storyline was pretty pointless. She's kind of a cool character and all, I guess, but she seems to have nothing to do with the overall storyline. And the storyline she *does* have is spinning its wheels. Guess we'll see about that.

Only one more episode before repeats, I think, and it looks like an interesting one. Thumbs up.

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Willravel

I keep seeing Heros being attached to Battlestar Galactica for the purpous of finding an audience in advertising on the Sci Fi channel. Quid pro quo. I'd like to see NBC finally grow some nuts and bring Battlestar Galactica over to prime time (but to leave creative control with Ronald D. Moore). Between Heros and Galactica, Lost would die off quickly and NBC would have a niche market owning science fiction. Let's face it, as Moskie stated above: Lost is redundant and doesn't reward loyalty with payoffs. It's too mysterious (not that I'm not smart enough to get it, but it's needlessly complicated on purpous).

That being said, I'm really curious about next week. What the heck is going on with Hiro?! Is the Claire out of danger? What are MY superpowers?

insidious_machinae

Just wanted to post to acknowledge that they've changed the actor playing Sylar now. It was Spoiler: Sean Bean and now it's some other guy.

jorgelito

I thought that Peter's power of "absorption" was based on proximity (?). Claire was in the area, maybe close enough for him to "heal" himself.

Maybe Hiro and Ando do get there, but too late (after the fact). And then, possibly think they are too late and Hiro may try to change time again?

I was pretty bummed that Charlie indeed did die and that Hiro could not save her (I thought for sure that she would remain a character on the show - being cute and all and as a possible love interest for Hiro made it interesting).

I thought the "showdown" between Peter and Sylar was a bit anti-climatic. I had thought for sure that Peter would use Sylar's power in a battle. Now we have the interesting twist of Peter being arrested too. I was also a bit surprised that Eden and the Haitian were able to subdue Sylar so easily. Especially after Eden had trouble convincing Isaac to paint that time.

Rat, you may be onto something with the timeline but nowadays I just avoid thinking about it - it gives me a headache....(the time travel stuff is just too confusing)

Moskie, I think maybe Zach is indeed gay? I thought they were making a subtle outing in tonight's episode. Too bad, I was kind of hoping he hooks up with her.

I like the Mohinder stuff, we are starting to get deep into the background of the story now. I want to know, did Shanti have a power and does that mean Mohinder might also? It all seems to fit in the whole, genetics, evolution theme.

I think we need to be patient with the whole Nikki/Jessica, DL, Micah storyline. They have to come into play relatively soon. They are a family of "heroes".

Miss Mango

Im betting Hiro changes the timeline to where he and Ando help Peter and they avoid the whole police thing.

ratbastid

Agreed. But here's the thing--Sylar's powers are under conscious control. He has to WANT to wing locker doors at people. Evidently he has to point at a forehead to cut a skull open. Nathan's power is also under conscious control, which is why Peter has been only making baby steps at flying.

Claire's power is involuntary. Her body just does it. That's why Peter was able to use her power and not Sylar's; when she was near him, his body just healed itself. Same way with Isaac's power--he gets high and it just happens, so it was able to just happen to Peter.

In principle, Peter should be the only hero who can take Sylar, and then only when he's surrounded by other heroes. AND when he's had plenty of time in their company to practice up.

Yeah. Something's fishy about Eden. She does Jedi Mind Tricks. So why has she been arguing and pouting so fetchingly at Old Man Bennett? Why not just say "These aren't the paintings you're looking for"?

Well, next week should clear it all up.

fresnelly

Given that we are about to see the previous 6 months unfold, I wonder if we will arrive at a different present after all is said and done. It could go either way I guess. The older waitress at the diner said that Hiro "popped out of her life month's ago." so in the current present she dies, but perhaps things
will turn out differently as we rewind along with him.

Either way, I'm really looking forward to Hiro's story.

Does anyone have a screen cap of Mohinder's Dad's computer screen showing the names of those with powers? That would be fun to read.

On a production note, to my tender eyes, I think the head(less) cheerleader's death may officially have been the most graphic and gory one ever shown on prime time network television.

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Siege

In the preview, there's a part where he says something like "you're very good at persuading people to do things, but looks like i've found someone you can't persuade"


Whether he's referring to himself, or the Haitian, we'll find out next week.

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Fremen

I don't know if Peter's way of gaining other's powers is proximity, or through touch.

Did he touch his brother and the painter before he got their powers?
'Cause I remember him bumping into Claire, and then later on touching her hand(s) when he's getting her to start running away from Sylar in the locker-room.

He touched Sylar, too, (besides being in his proximity) so I wonder if he has regenerative powers and telekenesis.

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Jove

I thought a huge battle was going to take place at the high school, but I guess I should have realized everyone is still learning their powers. Except for Cyler, who seems to be uber powerful and did you see how he threw Claire into the wall? Her face was really smashed!

Moskie

I was being dorky and decided to read a bit on NBC's own Heroes forum... and there was a theory discussed about Sylar that blew me away. No idea if it's what's gonna happen, but I thought it was great nonetheless. I'll spoiler it, just in case...

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Sylar is Peter, from the future (something that's been suggested here before, too). He has come back in time, using Hiro's powers that he's absorbed. But here's the real kicker: Sylar is the alter-ego that's created when Peter absorbs Nikki's powers of split personality / psycho-ness! I think that's a kick-ass idea, and I would be mightily impressed if that's what they did. I think it covers every angle... It gives a reason for Peter becoming evil, and it explains why Sylar let Peter get away so easily. He couldn't kill his past self, now could he? Thoughts?



edit: there's another idea i wanted to discuss, too. Maybe it's obvious, but what the hell. People have brought up the idea that maybe Claire is immortal/invulnerable/unkillable/whatever, and didn't really need protection from Sylar. But, remember she was incapacitated when that metal rod was shoved through her brain. She was unable to heal anything when she was, I guess, brain dead. And what does Sylar do? Steals your damn brain. So that might be an effective (and only?) way to kill her.

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Siege

Moskie, I like your suggestion. But I would think that if your idea is true, Sylar shouldn't of had any problem identifying who Claire was. Instead, he killed the other one.

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Moskie

hm... good point.

maybe... maybe the other cheerleader had some abilities we didn't know about? Bitchitude? Ultra PMS?




grr... and he didn't seem to recognize Hiro in the diner, either.

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ratbastid

I've always assumed that one of Sylar's powers is a sort of "gaydar" for special people. Maybe in the diner he knew he'd only have a shot at one of them, and picked Charlie.

What I want to know is: what's he doing with the brains?

Nancy

Am I the only one who's wondered about Niki's tattoo?



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Appearing frequently throughout the series is a symbol which strongly resembles an RNA molecule. Said appearances include:

* Several flotation devices in the swimming pool at a crime scene float in this shape.
* As a recurring shape shown scrolling across a laptop screen in a genetic profiling program created by Chandra Suresh.
* On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.
* Frequently painted by Isaac Mendez.
* On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.
* Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.
* Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.
* As a tattoo on Niki's back whenever her alternate personality surfaces.
* Engraved on the hilt of future Hiro's sword.
* Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book, Activating Evolution.
* Printed on the upper-left corner of the 14th issue of 9th Wonders! comic book, written by Isaac Mendez (the 13th issue that Micah was reading did not have the symbol).
* On a necklace worn by the Haitian.
* On a picture of Niki painted by Isaac. The symbol was hidden under an extra layer of paint.

A second symbol, consisting of two parallel lines, has appeared on the necks of two of the super-powered characters in the show:

* Matt Parkman, the telepathic main character.
* Ted Sprague, a character who appears to possess radiokinesis.




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Zeraph

BUT at the end of the episode it shows Sylar getting captured, and what do those guys do when they capture someone? Yep, that's right, they have the haitian (sp?) wipe your memory.

It also shows Peter getting captured by the cops, perhaps that will be his turning point if he stays in prison. Maybe he even runs into Nikki there.

The only thing that seems off is that I thought his absorbtion powers wore off after a few minutes? Like the flying. Although maybe when he grows in skill he gets to keep the powers permanently.

Also, at the end when they showed Sylar's eye in a brief bit of lighting it reminded me of Peter's eye. Anyone want to check?

fresnelly

The promo I saw for next week's episode claimed we were going to learn how Sylar came to be as the previous 6 months are recapped. They showed a brief shot of him in bright daylight, looking quite innocent. Despite some similarities, it was definitely not Peter.

I do like your implication that he's being "persuaded" to kill the heroes. That's a neat twist.

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USMC6531

I am still trying to find out how the guy who absorbs powers died by Sylar, he didn't seem to absorb his powers....whats the deal

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Peter wasn't able to control his flying ability when he was around his brother. It makes sense that he wouldn't even have an idea of how to control Sylar's telekinesis.

As for how he died, falling off a school tends to be quite fatal.

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Moskie

I'm not really betting that the theory I posted is correct, but I'm still looking forward to what will happen when/if Peter absorbs Nikki's powers... sounds like a potentially interesting storyline.

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GoldenOuroboros

I'm looking forward to the bit where Peter is taken in and he's sat down cause they think he's sylar and he meets up with Matt.. Eventually Peter will start reading minds XD

Definetly waiting for this weeks episode I'm still trying to figure why Sylar is doing what he's doing. He's definetly got the list of them all. Maybe he wants to be the only one, the only special one? Perhaps you are right and he's being forced to do this.. I still think it might be more of a power thing. A person finds they've got this great power (which telekinesis is) they go nuts and go from there.

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Zeraph

Ya but isn't the insanity part psychological and has nothing to do with her super strength? I don't think she's literally like the hulk, where she has to go insane to get her powers. In other words Peter would only absorb her strength, and not her insanity.

I'm really looking forward to when Peter and the mindreader meet too.

I'm thinking there is some powerful corporation or agency that has gotten ahold of the genetic finding work and is using Sylar to collect their brains so they can make their own super powered soldiers. I had thought it was Claire's Dad that was a part of of it, but it seems he really does care for her. though that doesn't entirely rule out the possibility.

twent4

I have this weird feeling that Matt's timeline actually takes place before everyone else's, and the little girl that he saves is Claire, dead parents and all (Sylar must've time travelled to kill her while she's still young, after coming in contact with Hiro at some point). It's also pretty weird how people just unwittingly know what a Haitian (or "Euro dude" as described by Nathan) man looks like...

On a general note, i think Sylar consumes the brains or something like that, it would be nice if the show established some rules to the people's abilities, like them originating in the brain.. it would explain why he's so powerful, can move stuff, cut sculls open, and apparently survive a few bullet hits.

Zeraph

Did he really get hit though? Or did he deflect them at the last second? I dont recall seeing any blood.

jusolson00

This is actually a cool concept which I like,,.. however it doesnt jive.. if syler was after claire as a young girl... why did he kill the wrong cheerleader? This also eliminates the idea that he has a "list" of all the superpowered. My belief is that he he just wanders around looking for signs of these superpowerd, and then targets them. In the diner he could very easily overhear the red head talk about her "power" of remember everything she reads, and then he targets her. Hiro actually "saves" himself by telling the red head his power is "teaching japenese".. brillent!.

I happened to read an article that interviewed the head writers of the show and they had said that the next half of the season will also focus more on Nathen's election... Now doesnt having your brother thrown in jail on murder charges tend to complicate a high profile election???? I can start to see these two drift to opposite sides of the coin.. but hey.. just a hunch right? Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

ratbastid

Claire would look pretty different at age, what 5, and age 16. He wouldn't necessarily recognize her.

I've assumed the Sylar has some sort of "special person radar", but his going after Little Miss "Ooh Ooh It Was Me Saving That Burning Dude" pretty much squashes that theory.

Zeraph

Well, probably . They were very close to each other. I'm sure he could get confused at that point. Same thing with Hiro and waitress. He may only have a general feeling for where they are.

Though I don't know why I'm defending this theory, I think he's working for or being controled by some conglomerate.

ratbastid

Really!? I've never considered that, I've always assumed he's working alone. What makes you think that?