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thespian86 · 05-18-2004, 12:33 PM

Take a piss when other guys are around? Havre their been case studies done on this? Do other guys have problems with this also?

doncalypso · 05-18-2004, 12:40 PM

Maybe you're afraid your penis doesn't measure up to other men's, and thus it makes you too self-conscious to piss at urinals if other dudes are around...

Redgirl · 05-18-2004, 01:18 PM

I've heard lots of guys have this problem. If I were a man, I would not be able to pee in front of other guys. I have stage fright when I'm in the freakin' stall! I don't get why guys don't have more privacy in public bathrooms like women do.

Mephex · 05-18-2004, 01:27 PM

I only have that problem when a trough is involved. Really embarassing too, as I wonder if other guys notice that I've been standing there for 3 minutes not doing jack shit, and if I'm just there to check'em out.

Gah! /me runs away.

Redlemon · 05-18-2004, 01:33 PM

I've read that attempting to multiply large numbers together in your head somehow bypasses the "pee-shy" part of your brain.

/haven't had to try it

wilbjammin · 05-18-2004, 02:01 PM

Man... when I hold it for a long time I just have troubles letting it out. For some reason, being around others makes it worse because then I'm really aware that I'm not peeing and that I should be.

It has nothing to do with penis size... it is all about "I should be peeing right now, why can't I!?!?"

I find it easier to relax and stop thinking about how I should being peeing when people aren't around.

gduventree · 05-18-2004, 02:33 PM

As you can see, you aren't alone. I used to have the same problem. I couldn't pee if I knew someone was in the same washroom, even though I couldn't see them. Using public washrooms was always... inconvenient. Just the thought of some stranger walking in would keep me from letting go sometimes.

But I managed to get over it with some help from my wife. Since we only have one bathroom in our apartment, we're forced to share the facilities most of the time. At first it was weird having someone standing there while I tried to pee, but as time went on I got comfortable with it since she is my wife. Now I have no problems using public urinals, even with a bunch of guys standing around. Just so you know, it can be fixed.

QuasiMojo · 05-18-2004, 02:53 PM

You have what is called " a shy bladder." This used to happen to me when I was younger.

Quote:

Originally posted by gduventree
As you can see, you aren't alone.

Its just a nervous thing and you will no doubt get over it. Buuuut, in the meantime you may want to try something the next time your bladder refuses to cooperate.
As you get to the stall just pre-flush...the sound of running water has a miraculous way of stimulating the bladder.

/don't mention it

denton · 05-20-2004, 02:43 AM

I used to have that problem (going to bars alot)

I started these imagery techniques, like hearing thunder and loud rain hitting mud (or a cow pissing on a flat rock)

Or you can try making jokes, like picture the other person peeking over your shoulder with an inquisitive look and a huge magnifying glass in their hand, with stupid music like maybe from the carnival or something playing (Or whatever YOU think is funny, and thereby relax a little)
This worked for me and I evidently have some kind of anxiety disorder.

metalgeek · 05-20-2004, 03:40 AM

I find drinking definetly gets rid of the problem

absorbentishe · 05-20-2004, 05:23 AM

It all in your mind. And yes, it still affects me too. Ususally only when I have to go really bad - go figure. When I'm drinking, I don't have that problem at all, I just don't care.

Redlemon · 05-20-2004, 07:10 AM

Hey, I found punkmusicfan21 on the news today...

CNN.com - Lawsuit claims shy bladder got man fired - May 20, 2004

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ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- A man who says he was fired by Caterpillar Inc. because he wasn't able to urinate for a drug test sued the equipment giant, alleging discrimination.

The plaintiff said Wednesday he suffers from paruresis, more commonly known as shy bladder syndrome, and was physically unable to urinate into a specimen cup, despite having drunk 40 ounces (1.2 liters) of water and being given three hours to complete the task.

Tom Smith, a 55-year-old assembly line worker, was suspended by Caterpillar a day after the aborted test in November, and dismissed on December 5.

"This is supposed to be a country where losing a job for a disorder like that shouldn't be a problem," said Smith, who worked at the company's Griffin plant more than three years. "It's just a matter of simple justice."

Smith contends Caterpillar violated the Americans with Disabilities Act and that companies should offer alternate drug testing methods such as hair or blood tests. He wants his job back and unspecified monetary damages.

Smith's lawsuit claims he ultimately was able to provide a urine sample during an exam by a doctor appointed by Caterpillar, but the company refused to test the sample because he failed to produce it within the allotted three-hour period.

Smith passed an independent hair drug test he paid for himself before he was fired, but Caterpillar required him to pass the urine test. Hair tests are generally considered to be more accurate than urine tests and detect drug use over a few months rather than a few weeks.

Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpillar says its drug tests are in place to protect employees' safety.

"We believe that our drug testing policy does not violate the Americans with Disabilities Act, and we intend to defend against the allegations," said spokeswoman Linda Fairbanks, who declined further comment.

Employers conduct about 45 million drug tests each year, and a vast majority use urine samples.

Paruresis is recognized by the American Psychiatric Association as a social phobia, but no government agency has classified it as a disability, said Steven Soifer, president of the International Paruresis Association.

As much as 7 percent of the general population has said in surveys they have trouble using the bathroom away from home, said Soifer, an associate professor of social work at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.

filtherton · 05-20-2004, 10:45 AM

It's all in your head. It is no different than anay other situation where you have been exposed around other guys(locker room, skinny dipping, etc).

moonstrucksoul · 05-20-2004, 07:18 PM

i guess it might be better than pissing yourself around other guys.

Do what Frankie said.

Dostoevsky · 05-20-2004, 08:48 PM

I will admit that I also having a hard time peeing around other dudes. My biggest problems tend to occur at sporting events and airports where there are like 30 urinals lined up on a wall with no privacy barriers in between. I get flustered man. My problems have gotten better with time. I guess 5 years of college basketball may have conditioned me to be comfortable with public nudity. Interestingly, even though being naked doesn't bother me, it is still kind of hard for me to pee with other people around.

matt_mll · 05-24-2004, 06:57 PM

possibly called shy bladder syndrome, and it's a royal pain in the ass for people who are expected to take piss tests.

wallace1 · 05-27-2004, 10:15 AM

Try peeing on them instead, that might help . Just be prepared for the collosal ass beating that will surely come your way.

Nova_Dust · 05-27-2004, 10:22 AM

I have no problem peeing in public washroom. Doesn't matter which stall I stand at. Totally fearless.

You know, this can be a good Fear Factory episode...

monkeydriven · 05-27-2004, 10:26 AM

Since there is such urinal etiquette, I have taken to standing right next to someone, just to gauge their reaction. If there are 10 urinals, and you're in the 10 spot, I know the proper slot for me is the 1 spot, but I'll head right to the 9...

It's these little amusements that keep me sane....

oh, and I have no problem peeing wherever....

a1t3r3g0 · 05-27-2004, 10:32 AM

It's stalls with doors for me or I'm not pissing.

chains · 05-28-2004, 01:53 PM

You really need to consult a general physician or urologist for proper diagnosis and treatment, but what you describe sounds very much like paruresis -- the inability to urinate when others are standing nearby.

Other names for this condition are "psychogenic urinary retention" and "bashful bladder." The presence of strangers often leads to feelings of anxiety and shyness about the body. These in turn activate the body's fight-or-flight response, preventing urination.

Paruresis is considered a form of social phobic disorder, like fear of public speaking or going out on dates. Several kinds of treatment are available, though none have been extensively researched.

Cognitive-behavioral psychologists may help the phobic patient change the way he thinks about urinating -- for example, by showing that the problem is not catastrophic or ridiculous.

Finally, two drugs have been investigated for paruresis: atenolol and bethanechol. Atenolol is a blood-pressure medicine that has some antianxiety effects. Bethanechol helps the bladder contract. But the research into this type of medication is still very preliminary.

You may also want to have a cystogram, in which dye is injected into the bladder to reveal tumors or other obstructions. That would help you find out whether you're suffering from an underlying physical problem.

Chains

Renny · 05-28-2004, 09:14 PM

I had this happen on a few occasions in highschool. There were like 10 urinals lined up in the men's bathroom and usually I didnt have a problem as long as there were several people peeing. But if say I was peeing during class and there was 1 other person there, there were a few times I could not pee for the life of me.

Seaver · 05-29-2004, 08:59 AM

Dude, you're not alone. I've never had stage fright, but I am in the Navy... we have multiple piss-tests every year. Trust me, there's lots of people who have stage fright.

For those poor souls that get chosen to watch the testees (to make sure it's not faked), they have many stories. Everything from running water in the sink to singing for the pissers. Just relax is the only thing I can tell you.

iamnormal · 05-29-2004, 09:24 AM

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Paruresis

05-18-2004, 12:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	Why can't I... Take a piss when other guys are around? Havre their been case studies done on this? Do other guys have problems with this also? __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

05-18-2004, 12:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
doncalypso TFP Mad Scientist Location: Philadelphia, PA	Maybe you're afraid your penis doesn't measure up to other men's, and thus it makes you too self-conscious to piss at urinals if other dudes are around... __________________ Doncalypso... the one and only Haitian Sensation

05-18-2004, 01:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Redgirl Addict Location: Native America	I've heard lots of guys have this problem. If I were a man, I would not be able to pee in front of other guys. I have stage fright when I'm in the freakin' stall! I don't get why guys don't have more privacy in public bathrooms like women do. __________________ Thought for the day: Men are like fine wine. They start out as grapes, and it's up to the women to stomp the crap out of them until they turn into something acceptable to have dinner with.

05-18-2004, 01:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mephex Psycho	I only have that problem when a trough is involved. Really embarassing too, as I wonder if other guys notice that I've been standing there for 3 minutes not doing jack shit, and if I'm just there to check'em out. Gah! /me runs away. __________________ He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon will be, void of all regard for his country. There is seldom an instance of a man guilty of betraying his country, who had not before lost the feeling of moral obligations in his private connections. -Samuel Adams

05-18-2004, 01:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	I've read that attempting to multiply large numbers together in your head somehow bypasses the "pee-shy" part of your brain. /haven't had to try it __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

05-18-2004, 02:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
wilbjammin * * *	Man... when I hold it for a long time I just have troubles letting it out. For some reason, being around others makes it worse because then I'm really aware that I'm not peeing and that I should be. It has nothing to do with penis size... it is all about "I should be peeing right now, why can't I!?!?" I find it easier to relax and stop thinking about how I should being peeing when people aren't around. __________________ Innominate.

05-18-2004, 02:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
gduventree Crazy Location: Vancouver	As you can see, you aren't alone. I used to have the same problem. I couldn't pee if I knew someone was in the same washroom, even though I couldn't see them. Using public washrooms was always... inconvenient. Just the thought of some stranger walking in would keep me from letting go sometimes. But I managed to get over it with some help from my wife. Since we only have one bathroom in our apartment, we're forced to share the facilities most of the time. At first it was weird having someone standing there while I tried to pee, but as time went on I got comfortable with it since she is my wife. Now I have no problems using public urinals, even with a bunch of guys standing around. Just so you know, it can be fixed.

05-20-2004, 02:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
denton Crazy	I used to have that problem (going to bars alot) I started these imagery techniques, like hearing thunder and loud rain hitting mud (or a cow pissing on a flat rock) Or you can try making jokes, like picture the other person peeking over your shoulder with an inquisitive look and a huge magnifying glass in their hand, with stupid music like maybe from the carnival or something playing (Or whatever YOU think is funny, and thereby relax a little) This worked for me and I evidently have some kind of anxiety disorder.

05-20-2004, 03:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
metalgeek Insane Location: Calgary	I find drinking definetly gets rid of the problem __________________ The truth is, wherever you choose to be, it's the wrong place. Chuck Palahniuk , Diary

05-20-2004, 05:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
absorbentishe Boy am I horny today Location: T O L E D O, Toledo!!	It all in your mind. And yes, it still affects me too. Ususally only when I have to go really bad - go figure. When I'm drinking, I don't have that problem at all, I just don't care.

05-20-2004, 10:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	It's all in your head. It is no different than anay other situation where you have been exposed around other guys(locker room, skinny dipping, etc).

05-20-2004, 07:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
moonstrucksoul hovering in the distance Location: the land of milk and honey	i guess it might be better than pissing yourself around other guys. Do what Frankie said. __________________ no signature required

05-20-2004, 08:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dostoevsky Psycho Location: Macon, GA	I will admit that I also having a hard time peeing around other dudes. My biggest problems tend to occur at sporting events and airports where there are like 30 urinals lined up on a wall with no privacy barriers in between. I get flustered man. My problems have gotten better with time. I guess 5 years of college basketball may have conditioned me to be comfortable with public nudity. Interestingly, even though being naked doesn't bother me, it is still kind of hard for me to pee with other people around. __________________ Pride is the recognition of the fact that you are your own highest value and, like all of man’s values, it has to be earned. It is not advisable, James, to venture unsolicited opinions. You should spare yourself the embarrassing discovery of their exact value to your listener. Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

05-24-2004, 06:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
matt_mll Crazy Location: some volcano in the middle of the pacific	possibly called shy bladder syndrome, and it's a royal pain in the ass for people who are expected to take piss tests.

05-27-2004, 10:15 AM	#17 (permalink)
wallace1 Tilted Location: Princeton,NJ	Try peeing on them instead, that might help . Just be prepared for the collosal ass beating that will surely come your way. __________________ Midway in the journey of our life I came to myself in a dark wood, for the straight way was lost.

05-27-2004, 10:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nova_Dust Upright Location: Toronto	I have no problem peeing in public washroom. Doesn't matter which stall I stand at. Totally fearless. You know, this can be a good Fear Factory episode...

05-27-2004, 10:26 AM	#19 (permalink)
monkeydriven Addict Location: Boston	Since there is such urinal etiquette, I have taken to standing right next to someone, just to gauge their reaction. If there are 10 urinals, and you're in the 10 spot, I know the proper slot for me is the 1 spot, but I'll head right to the 9... It's these little amusements that keep me sane.... oh, and I have no problem peeing wherever.... __________________ you think i got my eyes closed but i've been lookin' at you the whole f&ckin' time... ------------------------------------------------ Posting from the home of the 2004 World Champion Boston Red Sox

05-27-2004, 10:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
a1t3r3g0 Psycho Location: 127.0.0.1	It's stalls with doors for me or I'm not pissing.

05-28-2004, 01:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
chains Crazy	You really need to consult a general physician or urologist for proper diagnosis and treatment, but what you describe sounds very much like paruresis -- the inability to urinate when others are standing nearby. Other names for this condition are "psychogenic urinary retention" and "bashful bladder." The presence of strangers often leads to feelings of anxiety and shyness about the body. These in turn activate the body's fight-or-flight response, preventing urination. Paruresis is considered a form of social phobic disorder, like fear of public speaking or going out on dates. Several kinds of treatment are available, though none have been extensively researched. Cognitive-behavioral psychologists may help the phobic patient change the way he thinks about urinating -- for example, by showing that the problem is not catastrophic or ridiculous. Finally, two drugs have been investigated for paruresis: atenolol and bethanechol. Atenolol is a blood-pressure medicine that has some antianxiety effects. Bethanechol helps the bladder contract. But the research into this type of medication is still very preliminary. You may also want to have a cystogram, in which dye is injected into the bladder to reveal tumors or other obstructions. That would help you find out whether you're suffering from an underlying physical problem. Chains

05-28-2004, 09:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Renny Upright	I had this happen on a few occasions in highschool. There were like 10 urinals lined up in the men's bathroom and usually I didnt have a problem as long as there were several people peeing. But if say I was peeing during class and there was 1 other person there, there were a few times I could not pee for the life of me.

05-29-2004, 08:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
Seaver Junkie Location: Fort Worth, TX	Dude, you're not alone. I've never had stage fright, but I am in the Navy... we have multiple piss-tests every year. Trust me, there's lots of people who have stage fright. For those poor souls that get chosen to watch the testees (to make sure it's not faked), they have many stories. Everything from running water in the sink to singing for the pissers. Just relax is the only thing I can tell you.

05-29-2004, 09:24 AM	#24 (permalink)
iamnormal Addict Location: In the id	http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Paruresis