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vermeer · 01-09-2004, 11:25 PM

Awhile ago one of my friends contracted oral herpes ( confirmed by doctor ). Ever since then I've been kind of paranoid about kissing girls as it can be transmitted through a simple kiss. I've recently turned 21 and have been attending clubs and have held myself back from kissing girls due to this fear. Do any others on here experience this same problem ? Even if you havent I'd like to know your thoughts on the matter.

Thanks in advance.

Seaver · 01-10-2004, 12:08 AM

I dont have exact statistics, but the vast majority of the people in the US have oral herpes. It's a canker sore. Something like 3/4 of the people have them, many that have them are only carriers, where the virus lays dormant permanently.

I have it, but only get one occasionally when I'm very highly stressed. Nothing to worry about, as long as you dont get genital herpes in your mouth, that is the giant nasty thing you occasionally see on people's lips. They are completely different viruses, genital herpes is much rarer.

If you dont have regular herpes chances are you'll get it. But feel well that it's no big deal and you wont look like a freak unless you get hepititus C.

ChrisJericho · 01-10-2004, 01:27 AM

Yes it is very common. Anyone with a canker sore has oral herpes (scientific name Herpes Simplex). Basically there is always a risk of getting O.H. if you kiss someone whp has it, but when they have an active infection you are much more likely to get it.

phlox · 01-10-2004, 01:25 PM

It's funny...make out slut and extreme non germaphobe though I am, I've never gotten a canker sore. Ever.

Yalaynia · 01-10-2004, 02:00 PM

No there is nothing to worry about. Its not just by making out with someone that you can get them from though. You can also contract them from family members just by drinking off the same glass, cups, pop bottles, eatting off the same flatware, kissing them hello goodbye. You might not even know they have them. Nothing to worry about though, they cant hurt and there is a lot of medicines out that you can get to treat them. They are just annoying.
I m 27 years old and I can remember having them ever since I was like 5 or 6 years old. Im lucky enough that I can go a year or 2 without having one.

Slims · 01-11-2004, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by ChrisJericho
Yes it is very common. Anyone with a canker sore has oral herpes (scientific name Herpes Simplex). Basically there is always a risk of getting O.H. if you kiss someone whp has it, but when they have an active infection you are much more likely to get it.

Actually, canker sores are not herpes related. They are the sores you get on the inside of your mouth, on the moveable mucosa. You know, the things that develop after you bite your cheek or something.

They can be stress related, and cand pop up somehwat randomly, but they are not contagious, and they are not herpes related.

Cold sores are. They typically appear on your lips and/or outside of your mouth in the form of a bunch of really small blisters that can pop and get all gooey and crusted over.

Most people will get this form at some point in their lives....often as an infant. Most people just don't notice because it doesn't continually pop up as a huge cold sore.

Terminal Frost · 01-11-2004, 02:39 PM

I was just going to say what everyone else said. I think that it's just your genetic makeup that determines weather or not you will actually get a cold sore if you indeed do have the virus, which most people do. I'm a healthy individual, but I have gotten a cold sore before in my life.

After talking to a doctor it was diagnosed as not being genital herpes, which is very good news. She said that almost everyone has herpes simplex, but it only comes out in a few people. One way to help yourself is to take a L-Lysine supplement. I have been taking 500mg a day and have never had a cold sore since.

KungFuGuy · 01-11-2004, 05:32 PM

oral herpes is herpes simplex I. genital herpes is herpes simplex II. varicella zoster (i think thats the name) is chicken pox and thats a differant herpes virus still.

like someone else said, oral herpes is transmittable through kissing or just sharing anything that has a persons saliva on it. this would be shared food, drinks, etc.

oral herpes is transmittable to the genital region, and genital herpes is transmittable to the oral region. (yay, one more thing to worry about). its not advisable to go giving oral if u have an open cold sore.

Stuff magazine said that 64% of women have oral herpes, although i've read that the estimate for the general population is 50%-80%. the reason the gap is so large is because so many ppl have it that dont say anything to doctors.

Most people got it from their parents from kissing them hello/goodbye/goodnight etc. Now that more parents know, hopefuly this wont happen as much.

i hated learning about this kinda hting in microbiology class, cause having learned about all this stuff that icould get from other people, it makes a person want to live in a bubble. also- microbiology class was awhile ago, so i'm goin from memory. everything i said i'm pretty sure about except for that part about chicken pox. feel free to look it up.

ApexgriN · 01-12-2004, 02:06 PM

If either of you have an active cold sore, and you're both not infected in all regions, I would just stay away from the kissing/sex/oral sex until it's cleared up. Herpes, while most people have it, can become a problem and is fairly easy to avoid if you use your head. Whether it be a cold sore on your lip or on your penis, it can be transmitted to either region. Awhile back a friend of mine gave it to herself. Her boyfriend went down on her after kissing her (she had a cold sore) and viola, three months later she had her first breakout.

Too bad they don't have a decent sex ed program in school, this could have been avoided easily. The kids in the US are just taught to think that only people that have sex with lots of other people are at risk, and they skip the most important part, EDUCATION.

I have major beef with how "right" the schools are getting...

Falcon Inc · 01-14-2004, 08:06 PM

With the exception of Kungfu guy I'm astonished as to how little you know about a common ailment. And yes KungFu Guy chicken pox is varicella zoster.

You only need worry about contracting herpes (regarless of the variety) if the carrier is shedding virus through open lessions/sores.

Herpes stricken anatomy:

Vagina:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/pphb-dgspsp/s...mages/h990.jpg
http://www.med.sc.edu:85/virol/primaryvulval.jpg

Penis:
http://www.geilundsafe.at/std/pics/herpgen.jpg

Oral
http://www.emedicine.com/aaem/images/120Oral_Herpes.jpg

A useful link is: http://biology.kenyon.edu/stures/com...l#Transmission

Viral shedding (possibility of transmission) can also occur prior to visible queues of reactivation

raeanna74 · 01-15-2004, 02:44 PM

"HSV-1 and HSV-2 can be found in and released from the sores that the viruses cause, but they also are released between outbreaks from skin that does not appear to be broken or to have a sore. Most genital herpes is caused by HSV-2. A person almost always gets HSV-2 infection during sexual contact with someone who has a genital HSV-2 infection but may not know that they are infected and may not have a visible sore."

http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/STDFact-Herpes.htm

I often check with the CDC's website for information about any communicable disease.

KungFuGuy · 01-15-2004, 04:09 PM

heh- forgot all about the cdc website. all sorts of nifty stuff you can learn abou there. (as long as by interesting you really mean "painful ways to die")

vermeer · 01-15-2004, 10:05 PM

another question I have is if you had herpes simplex 1 orally and knew about it. Would you tell the person whom you were dating and would you avoid kissing random people ? or would you just think that the majority of the population gets it sooner or later so why say anything at all?
Also remember it can be passed when no sores are present...

nanofever · 01-15-2004, 11:03 PM

I swear my Masterplan (TM) was to go to college and sleep with lots of beautiful women using condoms... and then I read the equlivant of "condoms don't stop the herpes, noob."

Depressing.

01-09-2004, 11:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
vermeer Upright	kissing and oral herpes Awhile ago one of my friends contracted oral herpes ( confirmed by doctor ). Ever since then I've been kind of paranoid about kissing girls as it can be transmitted through a simple kiss. I've recently turned 21 and have been attending clubs and have held myself back from kissing girls due to this fear. Do any others on here experience this same problem ? Even if you havent I'd like to know your thoughts on the matter. Thanks in advance.

01-10-2004, 01:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
ChrisJericho eat more fruit Location: Seattle	Yes it is very common. Anyone with a canker sore has oral herpes (scientific name Herpes Simplex). Basically there is always a risk of getting O.H. if you kiss someone whp has it, but when they have an active infection you are much more likely to get it. __________________ "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows us that faith proves nothing." - Friedrich Nietzsche

01-10-2004, 02:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Yalaynia Insane Location: here but I wish I lived there	No there is nothing to worry about. Its not just by making out with someone that you can get them from though. You can also contract them from family members just by drinking off the same glass, cups, pop bottles, eatting off the same flatware, kissing them hello goodbye. You might not even know they have them. Nothing to worry about though, they cant hurt and there is a lot of medicines out that you can get to treat them. They are just annoying. I m 27 years old and I can remember having them ever since I was like 5 or 6 years old. Im lucky enough that I can go a year or 2 without having one. __________________ I couldnt think of anything to put here , but I guess anything would do

01-12-2004, 02:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
ApexgriN Tilted	If either of you have an active cold sore, and you're both not infected in all regions, I would just stay away from the kissing/sex/oral sex until it's cleared up. Herpes, while most people have it, can become a problem and is fairly easy to avoid if you use your head. Whether it be a cold sore on your lip or on your penis, it can be transmitted to either region. Awhile back a friend of mine gave it to herself. Her boyfriend went down on her after kissing her (she had a cold sore) and viola, three months later she had her first breakout. Too bad they don't have a decent sex ed program in school, this could have been avoided easily. The kids in the US are just taught to think that only people that have sex with lots of other people are at risk, and they skip the most important part, EDUCATION. I have major beef with how "right" the schools are getting... __________________ - apexGrin

01-14-2004, 08:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Falcon Inc Upright	With the exception of Kungfu guy I'm astonished as to how little you know about a common ailment. And yes KungFu Guy chicken pox is varicella zoster. You only need worry about contracting herpes (regarless of the variety) if the carrier is shedding virus through open lessions/sores. Herpes stricken anatomy: Vagina: http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/pphb-dgspsp/s...mages/h990.jpg http://www.med.sc.edu:85/virol/primaryvulval.jpg Penis: http://www.geilundsafe.at/std/pics/herpgen.jpg Oral http://www.emedicine.com/aaem/images/120Oral_Herpes.jpg A useful link is: http://biology.kenyon.edu/stures/com...l#Transmission Viral shedding (possibility of transmission) can also occur prior to visible queues of reactivation Last edited by Falcon Inc; 01-14-2004 at 08:22 PM..

01-10-2004, 12:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Seaver Junkie Location: Fort Worth, TX	I dont have exact statistics, but the vast majority of the people in the US have oral herpes. It's a canker sore. Something like 3/4 of the people have them, many that have them are only carriers, where the virus lays dormant permanently. I have it, but only get one occasionally when I'm very highly stressed. Nothing to worry about, as long as you dont get genital herpes in your mouth, that is the giant nasty thing you occasionally see on people's lips. They are completely different viruses, genital herpes is much rarer. If you dont have regular herpes chances are you'll get it. But feel well that it's no big deal and you wont look like a freak unless you get hepititus C.

01-10-2004, 01:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
phlox Tilted	It's funny...make out slut and extreme non germaphobe though I am, I've never gotten a canker sore. Ever.

01-11-2004, 02:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Terminal Frost Tilted Location: Manhattan Island	I was just going to say what everyone else said. I think that it's just your genetic makeup that determines weather or not you will actually get a cold sore if you indeed do have the virus, which most people do. I'm a healthy individual, but I have gotten a cold sore before in my life. After talking to a doctor it was diagnosed as not being genital herpes, which is very good news. She said that almost everyone has herpes simplex, but it only comes out in a few people. One way to help yourself is to take a L-Lysine supplement. I have been taking 500mg a day and have never had a cold sore since.

01-11-2004, 05:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
KungFuGuy Insane	oral herpes is herpes simplex I. genital herpes is herpes simplex II. varicella zoster (i think thats the name) is chicken pox and thats a differant herpes virus still. like someone else said, oral herpes is transmittable through kissing or just sharing anything that has a persons saliva on it. this would be shared food, drinks, etc. oral herpes is transmittable to the genital region, and genital herpes is transmittable to the oral region. (yay, one more thing to worry about). its not advisable to go giving oral if u have an open cold sore. Stuff magazine said that 64% of women have oral herpes, although i've read that the estimate for the general population is 50%-80%. the reason the gap is so large is because so many ppl have it that dont say anything to doctors. Most people got it from their parents from kissing them hello/goodbye/goodnight etc. Now that more parents know, hopefuly this wont happen as much. i hated learning about this kinda hting in microbiology class, cause having learned about all this stuff that icould get from other people, it makes a person want to live in a bubble. also- microbiology class was awhile ago, so i'm goin from memory. everything i said i'm pretty sure about except for that part about chicken pox. feel free to look it up.

01-15-2004, 02:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	"HSV-1 and HSV-2 can be found in and released from the sores that the viruses cause, but they also are released between outbreaks from skin that does not appear to be broken or to have a sore. Most genital herpes is caused by HSV-2. A person almost always gets HSV-2 infection during sexual contact with someone who has a genital HSV-2 infection but may not know that they are infected and may not have a visible sore." http://www.cdc.gov/std/Herpes/STDFact-Herpes.htm I often check with the CDC's website for information about any communicable disease. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

01-15-2004, 04:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
KungFuGuy Insane	heh- forgot all about the cdc website. all sorts of nifty stuff you can learn abou there. (as long as by interesting you really mean "painful ways to die")

01-15-2004, 10:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
vermeer Upright	another question I have is if you had herpes simplex 1 orally and knew about it. Would you tell the person whom you were dating and would you avoid kissing random people ? or would you just think that the majority of the population gets it sooner or later so why say anything at all? Also remember it can be passed when no sores are present...

01-15-2004, 11:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
nanofever Huzzah for Welcome Week, Much beer shall I imbibe. Location: UCSB	I swear my Masterplan (TM) was to go to college and sleep with lots of beautiful women using condoms... and then I read the equlivant of "condoms don't stop the herpes, noob." Depressing. __________________ I'm leaving for the University of California: Santa Barbara in 5 hours, give me your best college advice - things I need, good ideas, bad ideas, nooky, ect. Originally Posted by Norseman on another forum: "Yeah, the problem with the world is the stupid people are all cocksure of themselves and the intellectuals are full of doubt."