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Old 01-31-2011, 03:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So a little warning before you begin reading my little story. First and foremost I am changing the names here just in case someone I know is reading it. They wont think Im trying to share their buisness and hopefully no one will know who I am. This is a fairly long tale that is rather screwed up about a very strange guy.

So I wont reveal my name here either. You can call me Trent if you like. I have what is known as a smoking fetish. In other words I think a woman smoking cigarettes is sexy. More so if its the long feminine brands such as Misty and Virginia Slim 120s, and my personal fave the brown More 120s. This fetish dates back to my earliest childhood memories because even at 5 or 6 years old I remember being obsessed with cigarettes.

Cigarettes were the one vice my parents had. I came from a very sheltering Christian family. Both my parents smoked but that was it. No drugs. no drinking. I remember only once in my life did someone try and bring alcohol into our home, a family member, and lets just say it was never tried again. My dad was a very intimidating and stout man. Ill just put it that way.

So I was facinated with smoking. I wanted to do it. I always noticed one my best friends sisters who smoked and she was in her early teens. I always seemed mezmerized and facinated any time I saw a young girl smoking. I think these were the only girls I actually paid attention to.

By age 10 I found that I had a knack for convincing people to do things. I would find that later this would be a tool I used to indulge the strangley progressing fetish I have.

At tweleve I noticed only girls who smoked, and there was nothing that excited me more then to see a celebrity I thought was attractive smoking on TV. At this age I didnt understand why, I just knew I liked to see girls smoke. It was also at this age I convinced my first person to smoke. My best friend Dave. I wont get into a long detailed account of it, but lets say it involved a girl. So he started smoking. I wouldnt touch a cigarette myself at this point, but I just had this weird desire to get people to smoke. This desire would create a long list of smokers.

Through my teens years it was just family members and friends I convinced to pick the habit up. After all the years of facination, at around 16 I picked the habit up myself. I had always wanted to smoke it was just at that age I finally grew a pair and tried it and let my parents know and that whole kit and kaboodle.

Now I never considered myself popular with the ladies, and other then watching them smoke, I never spent a lot of time thinking about girls. When I turned 17 I found I was more popular with the ladies then I had any clue, and I had quite a string of girlfriends that year and ended up with Melanie, my first long term girlfriend and a non smoker. This was kind of odd because I live in a southern state known for tobacco and virtually everyone I knew 13 and up smoked with parents permission, which at first seemed crazy to me, but by this age seemed very common place.

Melanie showed an interest, and I taught her to smoke. Was obsessed with her smoking the longer brands I mentioned earlier, and it would also move on to her smoking cigars. Melanie was the girl I lost my virginity to. It quickly became common place that anytime we had sex she would smoke during, whether it a cigarette or cigar. It also sparked a new excitment of video taping intimate acts, esp oral being performed on me while she smoked.

I have never gotten into drinking or drugs, not even smoking pot. For most of my life I couldnt stand people who did these things. Melanie wanted to hang out with my sister and do these things, and this relationship ended. My next two short terms girlfriends both smoked. One I video taped, the other I never really got that into. But from this point on, almost every girl I have ever had sex with has smoked during the act.

I ran across Heather first. We didnt date, kind of had a fling. But I got her to smoke. After her I would always feel a non smokers thougts on smoking out anytime I thought I might be interested in to her see how hard it would be to convince them to smoke. Now it only gets worse from here.

I had a very specific idea of what kind of girl I wanted to date, and refused to date till I found her. I thought I set the bar so high it couldnt be reached. I wanted a gothy punk time, really pretty, didnt smoke, never drank, or did drugs, and hadnt had a lot of partners sexually (really hard to find any girl where I am from that isnt well experienced). In walks Lydia.

Lydia fit my criteria. The perfect girl for me in my head minus her not being smoker. She would prove a challenge as she hated cigarettes. It took a lot of convincing to get her to smoke. A few months in I got her to try it, and boy she took to smoking quick. Smoking a pack a day by the end of the first week. Lydia was only the 2nd girl I had dated that would last more then a couple of months. But with her it didnt stop at just smoking and video taping.

Though I wouldnt drink myself I started getting her drunk on the weekends. I introduced her to cigars. I started using her mouth for my ashes during intimate moments. Then having her swallow the finished cigarettes. Eventually though again I wouldnt do it with her, I got her to smoke pot. Lydia and I broke up and I was kind of torn up about it. I first thing started hanging with a girl named Rachel.

Now with lydia becoming a smoker I was obsessed. I kept a list of every cigarette she had smoked and every brand for the year and a half we were together. Rachel I video taped her transformation from non smoker to smoker. I also got her to drink. We never dated, never had sex, though she did give me oral, and she was the only virgin I think I have ever known.

After her it was Crystal, who was like stalking me, I told her up front about all my weirdness thinking it would push her away. But she started smoking, she got video taped, and used as an ashtray. Then Janice came a long. Already a smoked, but video, using her as an ashtray, and watching her smoke was our routine.

Right after her it was Lucy, also a smoker. Video, used her as an ashtray, had her eat them, and found a new desire. I got her to start dipping skoal. Cigars also

Then Brandy, (Smoker) Video, Ashtray.

Then Mandy, (smoker) Video, Ashtray, Swallowing them, and dipping skoal. Cigars.

Crissy, (smoker) Dipping skoal.

Sue (smoker) Video, Ashtray Mouth.

Sammy (Former smoker, quit 3 years previous) Got to smoke again, Ashtray mouth, Swallowed them, Video taped, and got to dip skoal.

My current girlfriend who is now my fiancee was a smoker, and thus far I have held back in the two years we have been together. She has been used as an ashtray and had her swallow them, but thats it so far.

This doesnt cover all the women I have got to smoke. It doesnt cover all the crazy things I have talked them into doing. Now dont get this wrong, Im not forcing, or making anyone do anything. I am not telling them I wont be with them if they dont do these things. Some of these girls took tons of convincing. Some I didnt think would give in. If you asked my in my teens if I thought people would do such things for another person I would have said no. But I have since learned you can talk almost anyone into anything if you use the right angle.

Anyway Im at this point that I want to break away from this behavior. I know its twisted. I would even like to quit smoking myself, but this facination that stems to being 5 or 6 years old just consumes me. I dont know how to break it or what to do. So I thought I would post here and see what kind of advice I get. Now I know I am going to get attacked a lot, and feel free to, but know up front I find such things funny and will just laugh about it, your not going to hurt my feelings as I have never really cared what people think about me. I would love some real advice however.
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I understand we all have our own fetishs and turn ons despite how weird they may be to others. But while I am not forcing anyone to do anything I am convincing people to pick up bad habits. I know its an absurd fetish to want girls to smoke, and dip, and be an ashtray, and as I said I am trying to break away from this but I notice when these activities are not involved I go from a high to sex drive to virtually none at all. I know it cant be normal to only have a sex drive when such insane fetishs are involved.
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Everybody's a willing participant, right? So what's the problem? You've got your guilt issues, and those are separate.

You feel the need to stop? Fine, here's how. Just stop. If it kills your sex drive, I promise that will only be temporary. It may be a week or a month or a few months, but it will come back.

And this isn't "insane". This isn't even the most unusual fetish at TFP that we've seen in the last week. If you set yourself up to be a pariah, it will become a self-fulfilling profecy.
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...in the last week? The Alice in Wonderland cosplay or the face-smothered-in-the-ass masturbation?

Is there a section of TFP I'm not privy to or am I asleep at the wheel again?
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Old 01-31-2011, 06:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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C'mon now, Phil. You know I'm far out.

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As far as the OP: Why the guilt? Never feel guilty over anything that gives you pleasure, isn't illegal and doesn't cost an arm a leg.

You said it yourself... your vice isn't nearly as bad as illegal drugs or booze. You found yourself a genuine Huey Lewis new drug, brah.

The way substantial post you wrote above shows your thought process. You don't have any illusions about your flavor of sexy time.

That and I really like your writing style. It's like Patrick Bateman so much that I'm glad that I don't have much personal info on the board.
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Anyway Im at this point that I want to break away from this behavior. I know its twisted. I would even like to quit smoking myself, but this facination that stems to being 5 or 6 years old just consumes me. I dont know how to break it or what to do. So I thought I would post here and see what kind of advice I get. Now I know I am going to get attacked a lot, and feel free to, but know up front I find such things funny and will just laugh about it, your not going to hurt my feelings as I have never really cared what people think about me. I would love some real advice however.
Since my childhood I had a fetish that I indulged for the longest time and it caused me a great deal of internal conflict. In the grand scheme of things, it really wasn't that serious, but because it went so far back it caused such shame in me that I pretty much never opened up to anyone because I simply didn't feel good enough for anyone.

This dark little thorn later manifested into a long cycle of sever depression and it really wasn't until last year that I finally did something about it after having a near nervous break down.

That little fetish, that cause of so much internal conflict, is something I have accepted or am at least choosing to not walk away from entirely. I accept it for what it is, I accept it has caused no one harm (though would be deeply embarrassing to explain if caught), and have learned ways to control my impulses and behavior to suite what I think is acceptable. And staying true to yourself is very important if you're going to have any chance.

Habits of the mind are extremely hard to break, and it takes a lot of work, but it can be done. The kicker is it really is up to you to stop, it really is up to you to work out what compromise you can make with yourself.

While this might give my anonymity away, last year, In an effort regain the head space I needed to get better, I gave up porn. I went two months without it, and you know what, it really wasn't that hard. The thing you have to remember is that you can change your behavior, it's just up to you to make the choice.

But don't beat yourself up if you slip up though, like I said, bad habits of the mind die fucking hard. But you have the power and ability to change, it's just up to you is all.

I don't know if any of that helps, if you'd like I can PM you and have a much more frank discussion on how I've managed my own fetish and demons. But it is something you can manage man.
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You feel the need to stop? Fine, here's how. Just stop. If it kills your sex drive, I promise that will only be temporary. It may be a week or a month or a few months, but it will come back.
This is the only way to do it. The physical dependency lasts three days on average. Kicking a dependency sucks, but if you've ever had a bad cold you've felt worse. Wean yourself off with nicotine gum if you need to, try e-cigarettes (I can give you some brand recommendations if you want,) whatever you need to do.

As far as sex, you're clearly naturally dominant and growing up seeing smoking as a vice that was acceptable in your community got the two intertwined. If your sex drive disappears and you can't get it back, sign up for some place like kink.com and dig through the extreme stuff they have until you find something that suits you and is less likely to cause cancer. It's really really really unlikely that there is literally only one thing in the world that turns you on, you've just conditioned yourself to respond to one thing you really like and the rest has faded into the background.
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So a little warning before you begin reading my little story. First and foremost I am changing the names here just in case someone I know is reading it. They wont think Im trying to share their buisness and hopefully no one will know who I am. This is a fairly long tale that is rather screwed up about a very strange guy.

So I wont reveal my name here either. You can call me Trent if you like. I have what is known as a smoking fetish. In other words I think a woman smoking cigarettes is sexy. More so if its the long feminine brands such as Misty and Virginia Slim 120s, and my personal fave the brown More 120s. This fetish dates back to my earliest childhood memories because even at 5 or 6 years old I remember being obsessed with cigarettes.

Cigarettes were the one vice my parents had. I came from a very sheltering Christian family. Both my parents smoked but that was it. No drugs. no drinking. I remember only once in my life did someone try and bring alcohol into our home, a family member, and lets just say it was never tried again. My dad was a very intimidating and stout man. Ill just put it that way.

So I was facinated with smoking. I wanted to do it. I always noticed one my best friends sisters who smoked and she was in her early teens. I always seemed mezmerized and facinated any time I saw a young girl smoking. I think these were the only girls I actually paid attention to.

By age 10 I found that I had a knack for convincing people to do things. I would find that later this would be a tool I used to indulge the strangley progressing fetish I have.

At tweleve I noticed only girls who smoked, and there was nothing that excited me more then to see a celebrity I thought was attractive smoking on TV. At this age I didnt understand why, I just knew I liked to see girls smoke. It was also at this age I convinced my first person to smoke. My best friend Dave. I wont get into a long detailed account of it, but lets say it involved a girl. So he started smoking. I wouldnt touch a cigarette myself at this point, but I just had this weird desire to get people to smoke. This desire would create a long list of smokers.

Through my teens years it was just family members and friends I convinced to pick the habit up. After all the years of facination, at around 16 I picked the habit up myself. I had always wanted to smoke it was just at that age I finally grew a pair and tried it and let my parents know and that whole kit and kaboodle.

Now I never considered myself popular with the ladies, and other then watching them smoke, I never spent a lot of time thinking about girls. When I turned 17 I found I was more popular with the ladies then I had any clue, and I had quite a string of girlfriends that year and ended up with Melanie, my first long term girlfriend and a non smoker. This was kind of odd because I live in a southern state known for tobacco and virtually everyone I knew 13 and up smoked with parents permission, which at first seemed crazy to me, but by this age seemed very common place.

Melanie showed an interest, and I taught her to smoke. Was obsessed with her smoking the longer brands I mentioned earlier, and it would also move on to her smoking cigars. Melanie was the girl I lost my virginity to. It quickly became common place that anytime we had sex she would smoke during, whether it a cigarette or cigar. It also sparked a new excitment of video taping intimate acts, esp oral being performed on me while she smoked.

I have never gotten into drinking or drugs, not even smoking pot. For most of my life I couldnt stand people who did these things. Melanie wanted to hang out with my sister and do these things, and this relationship ended. My next two short terms girlfriends both smoked. One I video taped, the other I never really got that into. But from this point on, almost every girl I have ever had sex with has smoked during the act.

I ran across Heather first. We didnt date, kind of had a fling. But I got her to smoke. After her I would always feel a non smokers thougts on smoking out anytime I thought I might be interested in to her see how hard it would be to convince them to smoke. Now it only gets worse from here.

I had a very specific idea of what kind of girl I wanted to date, and refused to date till I found her. I thought I set the bar so high it couldnt be reached. I wanted a gothy punk time, really pretty, didnt smoke, never drank, or did drugs, and hadnt had a lot of partners sexually (really hard to find any girl where I am from that isnt well experienced). In walks Lydia.

Lydia fit my criteria. The perfect girl for me in my head minus her not being smoker. She would prove a challenge as she hated cigarettes. It took a lot of convincing to get her to smoke. A few months in I got her to try it, and boy she took to smoking quick. Smoking a pack a day by the end of the first week. Lydia was only the 2nd girl I had dated that would last more then a couple of months. But with her it didnt stop at just smoking and video taping.

Though I wouldnt drink myself I started getting her drunk on the weekends. I introduced her to cigars. I started using her mouth for my ashes during intimate moments. Then having her swallow the finished cigarettes. Eventually though again I wouldnt do it with her, I got her to smoke pot. Lydia and I broke up and I was kind of torn up about it. I first thing started hanging with a girl named Rachel.

Now with lydia becoming a smoker I was obsessed. I kept a list of every cigarette she had smoked and every brand for the year and a half we were together. Rachel I video taped her transformation from non smoker to smoker. I also got her to drink. We never dated, never had sex, though she did give me oral, and she was the only virgin I think I have ever known.

After her it was Crystal, who was like stalking me, I told her up front about all my weirdness thinking it would push her away. But she started smoking, she got video taped, and used as an ashtray. Then Janice came a long. Already a smoked, but video, using her as an ashtray, and watching her smoke was our routine.

Right after her it was Lucy, also a smoker. Video, used her as an ashtray, had her eat them, and found a new desire. I got her to start dipping skoal. Cigars also

Then Brandy, (Smoker) Video, Ashtray.

Then Mandy, (smoker) Video, Ashtray, Swallowing them, and dipping skoal. Cigars.

Crissy, (smoker) Dipping skoal.

Sue (smoker) Video, Ashtray Mouth.

Sammy (Former smoker, quit 3 years previous) Got to smoke again, Ashtray mouth, Swallowed them, Video taped, and got to dip skoal.

My current girlfriend who is now my fiancee was a smoker, and thus far I have held back in the two years we have been together. She has been used as an ashtray and had her swallow them, but thats it so far.

This doesnt cover all the women I have got to smoke. It doesnt cover all the crazy things I have talked them into doing. Now dont get this wrong, Im not forcing, or making anyone do anything. I am not telling them I wont be with them if they dont do these things. Some of these girls took tons of convincing. Some I didnt think would give in. If you asked my in my teens if I thought people would do such things for another person I would have said no. But I have since learned you can talk almost anyone into anything if you use the right angle.

Anyway Im at this point that I want to break away from this behavior. I know its twisted. I would even like to quit smoking myself, but this facination that stems to being 5 or 6 years old just consumes me. I dont know how to break it or what to do. So I thought I would post here and see what kind of advice I get. Now I know I am going to get attacked a lot, and feel free to, but know up front I find such things funny and will just laugh about it, your not going to hurt my feelings as I have never really cared what people think about me. I would love some real advice however.
I think that influencing non-smokers to smoke is pretty sick.
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So a little warning before you begin reading my little story. First and foremost I am changing the names here just in case someone I know is reading it. They wont think Im trying to share their buisness and hopefully no one will know who I am. This is a fairly long tale that is rather screwed up about a very strange guy.

So I wont reveal my name here either. You can call me Trent if you like. I have what is known as a smoking fetish. In other words I think a woman smoking cigarettes is sexy. More so if its the long feminine brands such as Misty and Virginia Slim 120s, and my personal fave the brown More 120s. This fetish dates back to my earliest childhood memories because even at 5 or 6 years old I remember being obsessed with cigarettes.

Cigarettes were the one vice my parents had. I came from a very sheltering Christian family. Both my parents smoked but that was it. No drugs. no drinking. I remember only once in my life did someone try and bring alcohol into our home, a family member, and lets just say it was never tried again. My dad was a very intimidating and stout man. Ill just put it that way.

So I was facinated with smoking. I wanted to do it. I always noticed one my best friends sisters who smoked and she was in her early teens. I always seemed mezmerized and facinated any time I saw a young girl smoking. I think these were the only girls I actually paid attention to.

By age 10 I found that I had a knack for convincing people to do things. I would find that later this would be a tool I used to indulge the strangley progressing fetish I have.

At tweleve I noticed only girls who smoked, and there was nothing that excited me more then to see a celebrity I thought was attractive smoking on TV. At this age I didnt understand why, I just knew I liked to see girls smoke. It was also at this age I convinced my first person to smoke. My best friend Dave. I wont get into a long detailed account of it, but lets say it involved a girl. So he started smoking. I wouldnt touch a cigarette myself at this point, but I just had this weird desire to get people to smoke. This desire would create a long list of smokers.

Through my teens years it was just family members and friends I convinced to pick the habit up. After all the years of facination, at around 16 I picked the habit up myself. I had always wanted to smoke it was just at that age I finally grew a pair and tried it and let my parents know and that whole kit and kaboodle.

Now I never considered myself popular with the ladies, and other then watching them smoke, I never spent a lot of time thinking about girls. When I turned 17 I found I was more popular with the ladies then I had any clue, and I had quite a string of girlfriends that year and ended up with Melanie, my first long term girlfriend and a non smoker. This was kind of odd because I live in a southern state known for tobacco and virtually everyone I knew 13 and up smoked with parents permission, which at first seemed crazy to me, but by this age seemed very common place.

Melanie showed an interest, and I taught her to smoke. Was obsessed with her smoking the longer brands I mentioned earlier, and it would also move on to her smoking cigars. Melanie was the girl I lost my virginity to. It quickly became common place that anytime we had sex she would smoke during, whether it a cigarette or cigar. It also sparked a new excitment of video taping intimate acts, esp oral being performed on me while she smoked.

I have never gotten into drinking or drugs, not even smoking pot. For most of my life I couldnt stand people who did these things. Melanie wanted to hang out with my sister and do these things, and this relationship ended. My next two short terms girlfriends both smoked. One I video taped, the other I never really got that into. But from this point on, almost every girl I have ever had sex with has smoked during the act.

I ran across Heather first. We didnt date, kind of had a fling. But I got her to smoke. After her I would always feel a non smokers thougts on smoking out anytime I thought I might be interested in to her see how hard it would be to convince them to smoke. Now it only gets worse from here.

I had a very specific idea of what kind of girl I wanted to date, and refused to date till I found her. I thought I set the bar so high it couldnt be reached. I wanted a gothy punk time, really pretty, didnt smoke, never drank, or did drugs, and hadnt had a lot of partners sexually (really hard to find any girl where I am from that isnt well experienced). In walks Lydia.

Lydia fit my criteria. The perfect girl for me in my head minus her not being smoker. She would prove a challenge as she hated cigarettes. It took a lot of convincing to get her to smoke. A few months in I got her to try it, and boy she took to smoking quick. Smoking a pack a day by the end of the first week. Lydia was only the 2nd girl I had dated that would last more then a couple of months. But with her it didnt stop at just smoking and video taping.

Though I wouldnt drink myself I started getting her drunk on the weekends. I introduced her to cigars. I started using her mouth for my ashes during intimate moments. Then having her swallow the finished cigarettes. Eventually though again I wouldnt do it with her, I got her to smoke pot. Lydia and I broke up and I was kind of torn up about it. I first thing started hanging with a girl named Rachel.

Now with lydia becoming a smoker I was obsessed. I kept a list of every cigarette she had smoked and every brand for the year and a half we were together. Rachel I video taped her transformation from non smoker to smoker. I also got her to drink. We never dated, never had sex, though she did give me oral, and she was the only virgin I think I have ever known.

After her it was Crystal, who was like stalking me, I told her up front about all my weirdness thinking it would push her away. But she started smoking, she got video taped, and used as an ashtray. Then Janice came a long. Already a smoked, but video, using her as an ashtray, and watching her smoke was our routine.

Right after her it was Lucy, also a smoker. Video, used her as an ashtray, had her eat them, and found a new desire. I got her to start dipping skoal. Cigars also

Then Brandy, (Smoker) Video, Ashtray.

Then Mandy, (smoker) Video, Ashtray, Swallowing them, and dipping skoal. Cigars.

Crissy, (smoker) Dipping skoal.

Sue (smoker) Video, Ashtray Mouth.

Sammy (Former smoker, quit 3 years previous) Got to smoke again, Ashtray mouth, Swallowed them, Video taped, and got to dip skoal.

My current girlfriend who is now my fiancee was a smoker, and thus far I have held back in the two years we have been together. She has been used as an ashtray and had her swallow them, but thats it so far.

This doesnt cover all the women I have got to smoke. It doesnt cover all the crazy things I have talked them into doing. Now dont get this wrong, Im not forcing, or making anyone do anything. I am not telling them I wont be with them if they dont do these things. Some of these girls took tons of convincing. Some I didnt think would give in. If you asked my in my teens if I thought people would do such things for another person I would have said no. But I have since learned you can talk almost anyone into anything if you use the right angle.

Anyway Im at this point that I want to break away from this behavior. I know its twisted. I would even like to quit smoking myself, but this facination that stems to being 5 or 6 years old just consumes me. I dont know how to break it or what to do. So I thought I would post here and see what kind of advice I get. Now I know I am going to get attacked a lot, and feel free to, but know up front I find such things funny and will just laugh about it, your not going to hurt my feelings as I have never really cared what people think about me. I would love some real advice however.


---------- Post added at 06:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------

Why did you stop with tobacco?
Maybe you could introduce your "conquests" to heroin! It's as addictive as tobacco. You might even be able to make some money, once you've gotten them hooked.
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xenoman, I think enough's enough, especially since you're just wasting bandwidth by requoting the OP. You don't like it. Your opinion is noted.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yes, I find smoking disgusting, and the concept of inducing others to smoking for the purpose of satisfying his bizarre fetish is highly offensive.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:15 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Just follow the rules of the forum, xenoman, and we won't have a problem. Given your posting habits, I'm concerned that you'll forget.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I dont mean to be insulting, but I do think this sits in two quite specific stages.

Being turned on by someone smoking seems to me to be pretty harmless and although it wouldnt turn me on personally I can make sense of it (as it seems a kind of metaphor for oral sex?)

Insofar as smoking isnt a healthy thing it isnt so good in that way, and I do think there is a moral question in encouraging anyone to smoke - but it isnt something that strikes me emotionally as negative.

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I cant say I feel the same about the other side of things, where you mention using people as ash trays or "having them" eat cigarettes. To me this seems to be quite a demeaning thing to want someone to do even if it isnt physically harmful (I imagine it is at least physically unpleasant), and seems to me to signify that you want to enjoy a feeling of power over the other person and diminishing them.

Obviously some people are into those sorts of things, and if they equally get off on the "powerlessness" I suppose although I find it troubling it is up to them and you if you enjoy such things. But when you talk about having to persuade people to do it, I think that maybe isnt something you need to look at.

For one thing, if *I* really liked a girl and she said "well, there's a funny thing, but to turn me on I need to...." and she ended up saying she wanted to tip ash in my mouth... if I was desperate enough, if she was hot enough - maybe I would do it to get laid? But surely the next day I'd feel ashamed and wouldnt talk to her again probably

So, I think there is a danger that if you pursuade someone into something that is quite demeaning - even if there is no question of bullying or anything like that - after the event they just feel uncomfortable and it kills of the relationship.
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I think a most fascinating chronicle.

I'd love to hear of more accounts of some other of your sexual smoking experience, as well as the other actions that you have persuaded those girls you are meeting to be doing!

Best of luck,

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