shoe

No, not about the movie.

This weekend i was doing lots of partying and was supposed to try some shrooms with 3 buddies of mine on saturday night. Unfortunately friday night knocked me up enough so that i didnt go partying on saturday. Around 4am the phone rings. Probably a wrong number, i dont answer. Five minutes later the phone rings again. My dad wakes up, picks up the phone in a burst of anger and cusses until the caller hangs up.

I start to have a bad feeling at this time. Check my caller ID and find out one of my buddies has been calling. Knowing this guy i know he wouldnt call for stupid reasons at 4am so i call him back.

He was fucking terrified and begged me to come over, he needed me to be there.It turns out one of my buddies ( lets call him alex ) had been bad tripping all evening and he was totally out of control.

I'll never forget his face when i saw it. The 2 other guys we're freaking out and couldnt figure out what to do. Alex had become very violent, uncontrollable and unredictable and my 2 other friends managed to lock him up in a room. The minute i walked into the house i could hear the screams. He shrieked, banged, smashed, cried and screamed that he needed to get out of the room as he was dying.

I opened the door. It was like a scene from the fucking exorcist. His eyes extremely dilated and there was a devilish grin on his face.

Just one look man i freaked out for a few secs. This wasnt alex. I cant even describe it.. I was totally fucking lucid but just seeing him bad tripping had a huge effect on me. All night he was fucking unpredictable, violent yet crying, crying yet laughing. This was one fucked up night for me. I stayed with alex the whole time while my 2 other friends enjoyed their buzz, trying to talk him back to reality to no avail. About 5 hours in he camedown and went to bed.

Im not so sure i want to try shrooms now.

sailor

After that, I dont think I would want to either.

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Lebell

I'm 100% sure someone will post soon about how this is a rare thing and about how they've taken shrooms many times w/o incident, but the truth is, this is the chance you take everytime.

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KellyC

Another reason to stay drug free. Just out of curiosity, how much did he have? Seems like hes overdosed.

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Mephisto2

Any kind of hallucinogenic is bad news in my book.

I've done far too much drugs in the past (usually the "party" types; speed, e, coke etc). I tried half a tab of LSD once and ended up outside in the back garden eating flowers. Nothing bad, but just strange.

So, I'm all for drugs; that is, ones that give you a "buzz". But I hate anything that fucks with your mind and perception of reality.

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fnaqzna

Stick to the marijuana... It's much, MUCH safer.

Prince

...how about just not do anything at all?

Why are people so hell bent on poisoning their brains, aren't there other ways to feel good about themselves?

Sorry about your mate going thru that.

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MSD

One of my friends took shrooms, he ended up in the bathroom locked in a stall because the wall were breathing, the sinks were bleeding, and the faucets were whispering satanic messages to him. I've heard some bad trip stories that convince me that the risk isn't worth it.

JimmyTheHutt

For my money, halleucinigenics are generally bad news. For me its not the fact that they fuck with my perception, even in bad ways. It's that, even on the bad trips, it was always way too tempting to stay there.

I'd stay away from them. Like another poster said, things like that are a risk you take every single time. It may have been good, it may have been bad, but I'll bet you feel better not knowing.

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Journeyman

Put on a straight jacket and lock yourself in a padded room. Then do whatever drugs you want. Sorta like giving up on abstinence but buying a condom, diaphragm, and morning after pill.

Cynthetiq

that's right.

I'm not going to do that but point out that the medicine man with the indians, did not put himself with anyone else but himself and nature.

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Skettios

I've tried shrooms a few times, and never seen a reaction like that. I don't do them anymore, because it ceases to hold any real interest for me. Never had a bad trip though, although I did have a few sweet ones.

It makes me wonder if they had something else on them, like maybe pcp or lsd. Both of those drugs will fuck you up pretty bad.

It could also be that your friend is just a psycho. I mean, many people have strict control over their own violent and psychotic impulses. When you use a drug that strips all control away, sometimes this will happen.

As far as everyone elses claim about the chance of this everytime, and such... I don't think anyone here is an expert on brain chemistry, psychiatry, or a substance abuse counselor. Therefore, all opinions presented are equally arbitrary.

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Some people have strange reactions to drugs. I can understand that. Their mental state can't handle the power & the effects of the drug.
Usually when the experience a drug in a negative way, it means they have issues that they haven't taken the care of dealing with yet, letting it well up inside. Not a healthy way to extract them, I'd say.

*Nikki*

Having a negative "trip" has nothing to do with what kind of person you are. You are poisoning your body.....

How would you expect it to react?

VitaminH

Everyone reacts to everything differently. That's jhust how he reacted to shrooms. Could be he had too much, but if that was the case he might have ended up in the ER. I know fair amoung about how most drugs act on your brain and nervous system, and frankly I won't mess with them.

As several others have said, you're poisoning yourself. Thats what causes the 'trip'.

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spectre

That's happened to me before. I was hospitalized and was given a lot of morphine, after a while, I became violent and was nearly restrained. You can never know how that shit will affect you. I've spent a lot of time in the hospital on morphine at various times, but that only happened once, and that was enough.

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2kids1headache

I'm not fond of drugs. This reinforces my opinion pretty well.

I drink a lot of soda and a fair bit of alcohol, though, without thinking of them as drugs. Wassup wi' dat?!

sprocket

Situations like this should motivate you to research any mind altering chemicals you have an interest in trying BEFORE you try them. Same goes for your friends. Had your friend known that psilocybin (the active compound in mushrooms) is not toxic, and as far as illegal drugs go, among the safest (in terms of bodily harm, long term affects, overdosing, etc.) he might not have flipped out and convinced himself he was going to die. Knowledge about what a drug does to you (good and bad) can help ease your mind if the effects start to scare you.

I've actually seen this type of thing happen before, and its usually because people dont educate themselves about the drug they are taking. Overdosing on psilocybin is damn near impossible. Yet people who dont know, and take this drug anyways can be overwhelmed by its intensity and convince themselves they crossed that line. If you decide to experiment with this drug or any other, do your research. Find out the dosage, short term and long term effects, etc.

But should you run into that situation again, the best thing you can probably do is just try to reassure your flipped out friend. Let them know that you know your shit (if youve done your research ), hes not going to die, hes in a safe place, the drug will run its course, reality will come back in a couple hours, and everythings gonna be ok.

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woodhead

If you're going to take hallucinogens, take them seriously and read up on them. They're not drugs for just having fun, but you can get a lot out of them if you have the right mindset. Having said that, you should be prepared just in case you freak out and have some Valium or some sort of related clamer downer on hand. They can chill you out pretty effectively.

:::OshnSoul:::

I've done drugs before and never really had a negative "trip". But I have known people who have had bottled up anger or depression- and the drugs tend to reveal it. You *are* poisoning your body, of course- but drugs will unleash your true paranoia.

Skettios

I agree with OshnSoul, as I suggested earlier, your friend might just have issues.

I don't want to sound rude, but in all of the mushroom experiences I've heard of, or been a part of, I've never heard of someone freaking out like that. LSD, definitely, PCP, for sure, but never Psyliciben.

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sprocket

So true. Hallucinagens are often mistaken for party drugs like alcohol and are seriously underestimated. Users of these drugs can have experiences that swing either way (complete euphoria or complete terror or something completely neither.. just bizarre). They can have a tremendous impact on your psych like no other drugs.

Any emotionally intense or traumatic event in someones life can impact their world view (such as the death of a family member, or the birth of a child). Psychedelic drugs can induce that kind of emotional intensity (good or bad) and can leave a mark on your consiousness forever, wether its real or imagined. Know the risks before you take the drugs. If you do decide to experiment, take the precautions necassary, such as making sure your in a safe enviroment, and with people you trust.

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sprocket

Well just to clear things up.. no one should think that psilocybin is less intense or less mind altering than LSD. They are definately in the same league as far as intensity. You might be able to injest much more LSD than mushrooms without puking your guts out, but average recreational doses for both drugs put you at the same intensity level. Psilocybin is just as "hardcore" as LSD. Dont mistake it for a lesser cousin. They are on equal ground.

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SixEdxMia

I ate an 1/8 of shrooms alone on valentines day..I cried and cleaned my house for six hours,Called my dad,(old,catholic) at four am and told him how badly I messed my life up and that i wanted to move back home,The heating duct spoke to me.I see by your story that it could have been worse.

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telekinetic

I got a hysterical call from a female friend of mine at 2am one night asking if i'd come over because her carpet was trying to kill her and she couldn't fight it alone.

Very bad trip on shrooms...the whole time I was there talking to her and calming her down, she was scribbling random violent thoughts in a notebook in handwriting that wasn't hers. And she kept arguing with her cats...and was very specific that we were only allowed to have one candle, no electric lights. And she made me take off my glasses and cover all the mirrors.

A side note that should probably go in 'paranoia'....There was someone else with her, too...ghost for lack of a better word....he sat in the kitchen and watched us the whole time we were there. I felt him as soon as I got there and could feel him move around...she could both see and feel him.

So...I really don't want to try shrooms anymore.

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anleja

One time some friends and myself were hanging out in someone's living room. Shrooms were eaten. Everyone was having a good time. My friend had a stuffed monkey hanging from the corner. Someone pointed out the monkey, and it caused a bit a laughter. The friend who owned the monkey suddenly says in a confused voice "what about the monkey?"

Everyone got real quiet because we could sense his confusion. He started to ask about the monkey like it was involved in some secret we were hiding from him. Total paranoia.

It got much worse. His roommate (FORMER friend) had a loaded shotgun under his couch. Don't ask me why, other than macho stupidity. Anyway, the friend with the bad trip started to wonder out loud what was going to keep him from grabbing the gun and shooting everyone.

Thankfully the gun issue faded. I thought out loud that it may be better to get outside. The two other friends who were there, other than the bad-tripper and myself, wanted to go out to the balcony of their apartment, while I wanted to walk out the door and go outside. I thought nature would be good, as opposed to looking over some crazy parking lot. So, the two guys were outside on the balcony trying to get him to join them, as I was standing by the door leading outside trying to get everyone to go downstairs and walk outdoors. He started yelling about how he didn't know which one of us wanted to kill him, like he had to decide if they were going to throw him off the balcony or if I was going to take him outside and kill him.

It was pretty crazy. We did all end up going outside, where his paranoia downgraded itself to simple confusion. Judging from the writing of others here, it could have been much worse.

Oh, and Soul Coughing was playing on the stereo the whole time, I can't listen to them now without having flashbacks of that night!


Another friend had shrooms by himself and thought it would be fun to go into a Meijer (the big supermarket chain around here) and look at people. He was having fun, laughing at people and examining shoes, when he decided to just sit down at stare at people walking in the store. They soon started to look scary, he said he could read their darkest secrets and many of them were murderers and child molesters. Frightened, hew went to his car. The entire eighth of shrooms he took were in full effect, so he was too scared to drive. He had to piss, but was too terrified to go back into the store, so he sat in his car for 3-4 hours having to piss very badly being to scared to do anything. Sounds like fun. Oh, this same friend, a different bad trip, was certain he could communicate telepathically with his mother, to get her to sense he was in trouble. I don't think it worked...

The_wall

I've taken, and plan to take again in the future mushrooms. Some of you see them as poisoning yourselves, and I guess technically thats true, I however see it as an enlightening experience. I agree that your best bet is to read up on a drug before you take it though, and hallucinagens are not a drug to be taken lightly.

I dunno, I guess I'm just really curious to see the world in different ways, and I want to trip on acid once or twice in my lifetime.

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