pig

mal, so you've recently purchase, prepared, and injested grits? i'm so proud of you. tell me you did it with sausage and butter, salt and pepper? even if you didn't, lie to me baby. LIE!!!

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mixedmedia

[QUOTE=pigglet]I did not write that, you interloper. I don't use Splenda in anything. White, refined, granulated, sticks to the countertop SUGAR.

Remember when your mom used to make Kool-Aid and she'd add a full, rounded cup of sugar to it? Those were the days. When we weren't afraid of things like sugar and bacon fat. They were our cherished friends.

And actually a bath of Cream of Wheat sounds oddly inviting now. Talk about comfort food.

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pig

Arrgghh!!!Don't quibble details with me...details/scheetails!!! You sugar wheaters are all the same!!! Alas, we never got full rounded cups of sugar in our kool-aid. We had to steal the neighbors Capri-Suns out of the trash, rinse them out and pretend...our parents just gave us salt and told us to "make believe."

sniffle, sniffle

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maleficent

Ummmm--- uhhhh... Yeah... Sure... I did... and I liked it too... my cardiogolist said thanks for the additional business he thought it was going to be a lean christmas but I helped out some with that

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pig

oh mal, you gotta work on this lying thing...your cardiologist would give you double extra super-good gold starts for my fine dietary suggestions. if he doesn't, he's a quack. a charlatan (no offense Charlatan) - in short, judge your doctor by the amount of grits s/he eats. can't go wrong. if that fails, see how many handle of gallo wine s/he typically finishes in a day. anything 1.5+, you're in bonus land.

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mixedmedia

Capri Sun??? Oh my god, you're just a baby.

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pig

i'm just a wittle pigglet, after all

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ShaniFaye

Capr Sun? I've seen it, never had it.....we were raised on honest to goodness sugar kool aid and Shasta (nastiest stuff ever invented if you want my opion)

I cant believe I've actually now seen a southern person admit to eating cream of wheat over grits....gag that stuff is nasty.

I love grits but I cant offer any variations that havent been offered here. yummm red eye gravy, my great grandmother made the best in the entire world, mine never tastes like hers

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mixedmedia

I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but I never said I preferred Cream of Wheat to grits. They're two totally different dishes. I love 'em both.

And I know what you mean about the gravy. My mom never made redeye gravy, but she made delicious country fried steak with gravy and I have NEVER been able to duplicate it. Even with her exact recipe. She just had the touch.

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ShaniFaye

lol yeah I meant you....let me rephrase....I've never met a southerner that confessed to LIKING cream of wheat period. I remember my mother made me try it when I was younger (we were visiting a yankee friend lol) and it was just awful. THEN to add insult to injury my mother decided to make it to see if the other person just made it wrong or something....nope just as bad.

I do love oatmeal though, maple and brown sugah!!!!!!

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pig

holy junk, shani: el pigglet is a Southerner, and I have to confess I've developed a weakness for the cream of wheat...something about the pap-like consistency, so good, so good. particularly if you make it with milk instead of water...i would have thought oatmeal would have been a bigger stretch. and you're on the brown sugar train? help, help - i'm being defeated...

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mixedmedia

Cream of Wheat made with water? Oh, perish the thought.

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ShaniFaye

I love brown sugar more than a person really should lol

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shakran

Friend, I'm starting to suspect you're not southern. No sugar in cream of wheat? No collard greens? You SURE you're not from Iowa or something?

pig

shakran, oh yeah. i'm positive. i've got enough other purely southern traits, trust me. i mean, what's more southern than grease and fried food? two weekends ago, i went the Beacon Drive-In in Spartanburg SC, and had a double chili cheeseburger-a-plenty, all the way. i ate everything in the box, including all the ketchup in the packets. yes, i thought i was going to die. yes, i was amazing. if you've never been to the beacon, think the varsity in atlanta. i will have to say that the guys in the midwest make a mean pizza. i've had 'em from all over, and papa del's in champaign, illinois is the best i've had thus far.

damn it, i'm sitting here having vegetable soup and pickles, and all that's on my mind is montrously sized portions of extremely decadent food.

but yeah, i can't help you with the collards - my uncle eats them by the bushel. just the smell of them makes me want to cry.

and cream of wheat + butter (plus, of course, sausage and/or scrambled egg mixed right in) equals a little bit of heaven early in the morning. and to think i drove past chic-fil-a on the way in. what was i thinking?

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shalafi

I have to confess. I like collards the southern way but I actually prefer the way my Brazillian friend used to make them. He cut them in to thin slices (I can't remember the word for that) and sauteed them in olive oil with garlic and onions.

On a side note. Can I come over to your house for dinner MM? Or just send me some leftovers.

And since we have moved on past just grits n boiled peanuts does anyone else just frikkin love the swamp cabbage?

ShaniFaye

Oh God I love the Beacon!!! Not as good as the Varsity, but its the next best thing in my book

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pig

yeah, i hear you. i really shouldn't put this "on record," as my family is sort of from spartanburg...but i'd have to agree. in fact, i think i'd often take rush's cheeseburger...but those onion rings at the Beacon are solid. in fact, that's one area i'd take the beacon over just about anyplace else. don't think y'all have rush's down there...but its a decent replacement if you're around the midstate SC area and you need a quick fix.

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ShaniFaye

I agree on the onion rings, I prefer mine solid. I've had some "fun" times at the Beacon hehehe, very memorable

sort of from Spartanburg? lol Im from Cowpens (born in Spartanburg General, but that was the only hospital in Spartanburg Co back in the 60's)

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shalafi

There's a sweet tea debate?

pig

yeah, i'm born and bread columbianese - but parents/grandparents are always from that area. we have land out in roebuck near walnut grove. now we've spread all the way to columbia and even greenville. taking over the world, one hectare at a time. my grandkids grandkids will perhaps live permanently out-of-state. now that would be something.

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ShaniFaye

of course there is a sweet tea debate!!!!!! Im VERY picky about my sweet tea

and no, you can not make unsweetened tea sweet once its cold

lol Pigglet, wonder if we are related somehow

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Sultana

I am not Southern.

I do not like grits. Or cream of wheat. At All.

I do, however, love boiled peanuts. But I have to resort to boiling regular raw peanuts, or else buy fresh raw green peanuts over the internet, which is just crazy. I wonder if I can pick up a bushel of them over the holidays while I'm in Florida *and/or* South Carolina? (I'm serious, I'm going to be in both places. I could be the missing mixedmedia/pigglet link.) Will the feds jack me up if I attempt to take them over the state line? (The green peanuts, not the TFP members.)

Also looking forward to the annual gorging myself on Chik-Fil-A.

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pig

yep, in fact there's probably two. the big debate is between the heroes of our story, the Enlightened Southerners, who know that sweet tea is manna from heaven. Then there are Those-We-Speak-Not-Of, who have been mislead into drinking unsweet tea (flat tea, black piss, whatever you want to call it, bracken swamp detritus). There's also the internal debates over proportion of lemon and/or lemonade that should be added; but these are the perfectly understandable quibblings of brethren experts; unlike the unholy assault caused by cries for "unsweet tea."

Me? I'll take mine sweet, obviously - with two lemon slices. In the summer, I can knock out a half tea/half lemonade combo, state. Also, I personally would like mine over crushed ice, but I don't usually fight much over it.

The Beacon's sweet tea is the gold standard for me.

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ShaniFaye

mine is better than the beacon's

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maleficent

Hey now!! if'n it's good tea -it need not be sweet -lipton is bilge water but get a good tea -it's fine and dandy on it's own....

THis was how the civil war started - sweet tea vs good tea - Im convinced

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Sultana

Would you like a couple pieces of bacon in that?

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shalafi

UN-sweet tea????? My God man! Say its not so! That has got to be some Godless heathen yankee custom. No self respecting southerner would ever condone such a sacrlilege. As for the lemon. Ok I can see the debate there. I'm currently on a no lemon kick. Crushed/cracked/cubed ice doesn't really matter to me. As long as there is alot of it.

And how true shani. I don't think even the Myth Busters could come up with a way to properly sweeten a glass of cold unsweet tea.

snowy

Oh dear God, now the debate has turned to sweet tea. This leads me to a question--what basic black tea do most of you use when you make sweet tea? I love sweet tea, but I'm used to drinking good hot tea (Twinings or better), which is not appropriate for sweet tea. I'd really like to make some soon, as I have totally quit drinking anything with HFCS, but I still have a sweet tooth

Oh, and I saw the Beacon on Food Network a while ago. Looked just like my kind of joint. Mmmm.

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ShaniFaye

I use Luzianne and Luzianne only, I cannot abide Liptons or Tetley *shudder* to make my Southern Table Wine.

shalifi I have found one way to make cold sweet tea drinkable (my trick I use in Chicago) ask for only 3 quarters of a glass of "tea" then ask for a cup of hot water, disolve the sugar in the hot water and pour into the tea glass and stir well. Thats as close as you'll ever get to it tasting right

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pig

Shani, that's saying a lot. i'm saying i can't possibly believe that, but i'm saying....wow.

mal, i love you, you know this...but i mean, there's tea...you know, all the crap that i drink with my friends who wear black turtle necks, and then there's tea. which is sweet tea, which is awesome.

sultana, i already told you to let me know when you're coming through - boiled peanuts shouldn't be a problem. and this link thing between me and m^2 sounds pretty hot

shalafi: i'm sorry you had to find out this way. it will be ok.

snowy: i'll go with lipton english black as the most common stock, although i'm sure there are contenders. you should definitely Beacon - and shani was spot on about the Varsity. If you get to the Beacon somehow, I promise its a unique experience. The guy taking your order 1. doesn't speak what you would consider English, 2. he just yells it over his shoulder, 3. people who have never been there before get flustered and scared as he hollers them to give him their order. they're usually trying to ennunciate their orders and ask for the dressing on the side, honkey-ass shit like that, 4. your order magically appears at the end of the line.

edit: shani i see we disagree on basic teas, but i'll give you that luzianne is quite fine. i suppose we are now shedding light on this whole sweet tea debate.

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ShaniFaye

I dont say that lightly pigglet, my grandfather was the pickiest sweet tea drinker I've ever known. When I was little, I've actually been in places where he went back to the kitchen to show them how it was supposed to be made. He LOVED the beacons tea and told me himself mine was better hehehe

well at least in his opinion it was, and thats good enuff for me hehehehe

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shalafi

sulty: where in FL are you visiting?

snowy: I usually just use lipton.

mixedmedia

I've never been to the Beacon, but some of my earliest, most fondest and delicious-est memories were of my dad driving my brother, sister and I to the Varsity in downtown Atlanta. I LOVE that place.

That might can be arranged, shalafi, but your on your own if you do. You know that scene in A Charlie Brown Christmas when the Peanuts gang gathers around the little Christmas tree to decorate it and their little arms are flying everywhere? That's what my kitchen looks like at dinnertime.

And those Brazilian collards you described sound good. Yum!

Gawd, I'm not sure what swamp cabbage is.

I do like cooked cabbage, though, with lots and lots of butter.

Of course not. You must stir the sugar into the hot tea right after taking the tea bags out. It baffles me how people spend their lives determined to sweeten cold tea. You'd think they'd learn.

Luzianne. It truly is the best.

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ShaniFaye

we may not agree on cream of wheat, but at least we agree on tea lol

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Unfortunately there are no stores in Oregon that carry Luzianne tea (I had a feeling, but I double-checked their website to be sure.) Now, I could order tea off of their site, or else I could find a similar product that IS available in Oregon. Anything besides Lipton--Lipton just gets too bitter if it steeps too long. Ugh. No thanks. If anyone has any additional tips--like what you would use instead of Luzianne, if you had a second choice--that would be awesome.

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pig

Oh, that's easy. how about Lipton?

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shalafi

Sweet!!!!

They're friggin great. They serve them that way with feijoada which I also love.

Swamp cabbage comes from the heart of a cabbage palm. You slice it up and cook it with some ham or fatback or something. linky

shakran

Quiet. Regular tea is great

considering the gastronomics of the south it's a bloody miracle they don't fry the damn tea.

shalafi

Well.....I use a sauce pan to make mine but I suppose a frying pan would work