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JohnnyRoyale 03-31-2004 10:20 AM

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Flair walks to the center of the ring and falls flat on his face?
FYI, that's called the "Flair Flop" very famous "move" :)

DownwardSpiral 03-31-2004 05:35 PM

For all of you Goldberg fans out there lol, WWE has reopened negotiations for a new contract for him, considering his current contract has expired. Apparently with all the big names that have left they want to try and keep him on board in the WWE.

Prophecy 03-31-2004 06:23 PM

All the big name talent leaving? I thought Brock was the only person that left? Besides last I heard Goldberg was in negotiations to go a japanese federation. I say let Bill go over seas and bring back Gillberg!

meanSpleen 03-31-2004 08:13 PM

Because I feel like tooting my own horn, dangit.

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Originally posted by meanSpleen
God damn. What have I been saying this entire time? Haven't I said that Shelton Benjamin is freakin awesome? How many here thought I was crazy? (Ignoring the fact that a few others hold Shelton in as high regard as I do)

:D Score one for the Spleen.

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Crap. As long as I'm here, might as well update my Top 5 Fave WWE Wrestlers List. All those on my list are a combination of Great Wrestling and Great Performing (acting/promos/character development/etc)

1) V1 Hardy - Even though he got shafted when he moved to RAW, he's still one of the best workers/performers on either roster

2) Y2J - COME ON. Who doesn't like him!?

3) Shelton Benjamin - Still on the list, ain't leaving.

4) Rene Dupree - Suprised? First time on the list, but I've mentioned him before as one of the ones who ALMOST made it on the list. He still has a great look, and a large dose of skills. Especially when compared to others of his size.

5) The Hurricane - From 1st to 5th. He really (and I agree finally) needs a new gimmick or something. A storyline would be nice.

Others:
Kurt Angle ISN'T on the list for now. He's not actively wrestling

Benoit - I just realized that he doesn't look good wearing the title belt.
JOKING - I'm waiting for more character development

Christian - Even though I'm one of his peeps, there just isn't room on the list for him when compared to the others.

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Screw goldberg :D

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Someday, somehow... I am going to wake up and go, "OH MY GOD. JAZZ IS HOT". Until then, I can say that she DID look a whole lot better wearing the tights then her usual tiny short skirt ring attire.

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Anyone else think that the Coach did a great job of overselling the Taijiri spray? heh

brandon11983 03-31-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by DownwardSpiral
For all of you Goldberg fans out there lol, WWE has reopened negotiations for a new contract for him, considering his current contract has expired. Apparently with all the big names that have left they want to try and keep him on board in the WWE.
Woo hoo baby!! I got my fingers crossed!

Heel Turn 04-01-2004 09:06 AM

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And for Benjamin, great match. The guy got potential. Hope he do well and have a nice gimmick. Is it just me but I would have loved to see him double cross Austin and join Evolution. I think it's still a idea for the coming months.
Turning Shelton heel this early would be a huge mistake. He's as close to an overnight sensation as anything the WWE has produced in the last few years, and they need to milk a face run out of him for awhile before turning him heel, as there's plenty of money to be made there.

evilbeefchan 04-02-2004 01:39 AM

For some reason, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw JBL's limo! I think it was the giant Texas Longhorns on the front.

DownwardSpiral 04-03-2004 06:22 AM

I can't believe it looks like they're giving JBL a push! But what if they actually gave him the title! Oh the agony that would cause. I can see it now. . . Eddie goes for the Frog Splash but knows JBL is gonna get up so he rolls through. Then Eddie runs at the ropes but dosen't realize JBL is running as well. Eddie turns around a bam! Clothesline from Hell. JBL is the new WWE champ!

Good lord I hope he dosen't get a title shot and actually win. . . the horror! Lol.

meanSpleen 04-03-2004 09:46 AM

But if you think about it, there isn't anyone else on the SD! roster who is... able to wrestle(?) in the spotlight.

1) Big Shmo - He's in the US Title hunt with Cena

2) Cena is the US Champ. Him and Big Shmo will continue their (sad sad) storyline

3) Hardcore Holly is/was never ready for Primetime (not to be confused with Team NWA's Primetime (with Jerry Lynn and Sonjay Dutt))

4) Rene Dupree - hasn't made a name for himself in singles action (yet)

5) Rikishi - had his chance.

6) RVD - has to work his way up the SD! ladder

7) Booker T - Trying to get some heat from the rather silent crowd.

8) Undertaker - has other things to do. Like getting new ring attire and growing his hair.

9) Charlie Haas - Character Developement, and trying to get up to Shelton Benjamins level.

DownwardSpiral 04-03-2004 12:23 PM

Terri Runnels and Sean O'Haire have been released from their contracts today, from what it seems. Your thoughts?

evilbeefchan 04-04-2004 02:26 AM

I always loved Sean O'Haire. His Seanton Bomb was way better than Jeff Hardy's. I didn't understand why he had to be saddled with Roddy Piper, I felt he could have done better by himself. I can see a nice spot for him in TNA. Good luck Sean!

And Terri is scary.

ChrisJericho 04-04-2004 03:26 AM

I am really glad to see Terri go. She should have been gone 5 years ago. Her implants were really nasty IMO and the fact that she was a mommy didn't help her sex appeal either.


I miss Gail Kim :( .

H12 04-04-2004 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by evilbeefchan
I always loved Sean O'Haire. His Seanton Bomb was way better than Jeff Hardy's. I didn't understand why he had to be saddled with Roddy Piper, I felt he could have done better by himself. I can see a nice spot for him in TNA. Good luck Sean!
Exactly; TNA should be pissing their pants at the idea of getting Sean now.

holtmate 04-04-2004 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by meanSpleen
Anyone else think that the Coach did a great job of overselling the Taijiri spray? heh
I agree. That got the biggest reaction from the audience. Every time they replayed it, we were laughing harder.

And, why is Palumbo still around if they let O'Haire go?!? Is there no justice?

Dr.Who 04-04-2004 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by evilbeefchan
I didn't understand why he had to be saddled with Roddy Piper
My tought exactly. Once again, the WWE did not handle well great talent.

Just sad

Vilkata 04-04-2004 10:13 PM

w00t! I got tickets for the 4/26 Raw in Topeka, KS. I got in the section right behind where the announcers used to be at ringside, 8 rows back. This is going to own hardcore. :D

evilbeefchan 04-05-2004 12:20 AM

Awesome! Are you going to take any pics, Vilkata? You should make a sign, and represent all of your buddies here at TFP. Or not. ::shrugs::

Vilkata 04-05-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by evilbeefchan
Awesome! Are you going to take any pics, Vilkata? You should make a sign, and represent all of your buddies here at TFP. Or not. ::shrugs::
My digicam is on the fritz, but luckily a friend is willing to let me borrow his cam. I'm not sure if I'm gonna take any signs to this event. I went to Backlash 02 and this bitch in front of me ruined about 8 bad ass pictures with her stupid sign, including this awesome one where Jeff Hardy was in mid-flip for Swanton Bomb. It's kinda made me anti-sign taking. But we'll see. ;)

brandon11983 04-05-2004 07:13 AM

I'm sad to see both O'Hare and Terri go. O'Hare would have been worth watching by himself, but was terrible with Hot Rod. I wonder why they canned such young and promsing talent? I remember all his "I'm not telling you anything you don't already know" promo spots. And Terri was a major MILF.

JohnnyRock 04-05-2004 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by brandon11983
I'm sad to see both O'Hare and Terri go. O'Hare would have been worth watching by himself, but was terrible with Hot Rod. I wonder why they canned such young and promsing talent? And Terri was a major MILF.
I agree with you on both counts!

Bobaphat 04-05-2004 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by brandon11983
I'm sad to see both O'Hare and Terri go. O'Hare would have been worth watching by himself, but was terrible with Hot Rod. I wonder why they canned such young and promsing talent? I remember all his "I'm not telling you anything you don't already know" promo spots. And Terri was a major MILF.
I can't agree on both counts, O'Haire I liked and would have like to have seen alot more of. Hopefully he can go somewhere where he will be used more appropriately. As far as Terri is concened, good riddance. That was one fugly broad, and a terrible interviewer too.

So does anyone know anything about FoxSports and TNA getting close to a TV deal? I heard some rumors but don't know if there's any reality to it. I think it would be great. Wrestling was at its best when there was some competition.

Prophecy 04-05-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by brandon11983
I'm sad to see both O'Hare and Terri go. O'Hare would have been worth watching by himself, but was terrible with Hot Rod. I wonder why they canned such young and promsing talent? I remember all his "I'm not telling you anything you don't already know" promo spots. And Terri was a major MILF.
Terri was a MILF, not anymore. Also she really hasn't really done anything good on air since her and Dustin Rhodes were doing their Goldust gimic.

Also about Shelton, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but the WWE was rumored to be toying around with the idea of putting Shelton in the next PPV as part of the title match. Yep, although it seems like the idea has been dropped, there was a chance to see a Fatal Four Way at the next PPV for the title instead of a rematch of the Triple Threat between HHH, Michaels and Benoit.

Sounds to me like Shelton impressed someone at the top.

Reese 04-06-2004 02:29 AM

One word. EDGE! Did he really break his frickin hand? I kinda think not considering he's using it as a weapon, but that sucks breaking a hand less than a week off the injured list.

He stood toe-2-toe with kane and walked away, That's not something that happens alot. I am seeing alot of smaller guys get pushed lately. I like it :) even though he isn't that small anymore.

ChrisJericho 04-06-2004 01:19 PM

You think you know me, you think you know me........

H12 04-06-2004 06:46 PM

Foley has me hyped for his match once again. "Barbie" is coming out to play, come Backlash.

Kaos 04-07-2004 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by holtmate


And, why is Palumbo still around if they let O'Haire go?!? Is there no justice?

OMG !! Understatement of the Year. I remember their tag team in WCW and when they came to RAW and split them up, I was sure O'Haire was going to get the monster push. Then Palumbo got a push with Billy Gun. I was just waiting, and waiting, AND waiting for when O'Haire was going to finally get on TV. And he never did :(

I can't remember, did they even do anything with O'Haire? I think I remember they started some promos with him, but I could be wrong.

brandon11983 04-07-2004 09:03 AM

There was something brief between him and Rikishi. Superfly Snuka was involved in it too. Hod Rod smashed a fruit of some sort on Superfly. He was waaaaay underused. I saw him as a good guy with the whole "I'm not telling you...." spots.

JohnnyRoyale 04-10-2004 07:31 AM

The O'Hare/Rikishi angle was based on an old incident between Roddy and Superfly...back the "Piper's Pit" days of the WWF, Roddy had Superfly on, and smacked him with a coconut. Then after WMXIX, when Roddy did his return, he had O"Hare as his sidekick, and Rikishi was there for revenge since Superfly is his uncle, or something. But that kind of died with Roddy's return.

BTW, I head on Fox News this morning that Bradshaw is engaged to some other reporter on the channel.

meanSpleen 04-10-2004 10:45 AM

Just to figure things out for later on:

In the event that NWA:TNA gets a television deal with Fox Sports, and they switch from a PPV Weekly show to a public televised weekly show, would you like a new NWA:TNA thread, or would you like to talk about WWE and NWA:TNA together in the same thread? (ends run-on sentance)

Pros of having two separate threads:
Clear division of shows
Easier to keep track of discussions/conversations
Keeps all the WWE haters and NWA:TNA haters separate

Pros of having one giant thread:
More stuff to talk about
More comparison comparisons
Mild heated arguments about which show was better on a weekly basis


just toss it in whenever you post next. Its not like anyone CAN'T make the thread on thier own, but.. yeah. I'm lazy sometimes :)

JoeyB 04-10-2004 02:30 PM

I think 2 separate threads would be much better. It's sometimes tough enough to keep the WWE topics from blending together. Personally, I think there could be enough interest for a Wrestling Forum, but perhaps I'm in the minority.

rockzilla 04-10-2004 04:13 PM

I agree with JoeyB that a separate NWA-TNA thread would be better to keep the two topics separated. It's not like anyone would get in trouble for mentioning Raven or Ron Killings in the WWE thread though.... right? (looks around nervously)

H12 04-10-2004 08:27 PM

A separate thread would be the best, I think. Like JoeyB said though, I believe there's enough interest in a Wrestling Forum.

ChrisJericho 04-10-2004 09:33 PM

I hope NWA does get broadcast on FOX, having some competition again would be great.

Also, was anyone else offended by the Eugene character? I don't thnk it's humourous to make fun of those with mental handicaps.

Kaos 04-11-2004 01:24 PM

A separate thread would be the best idea. During the WWF vs. WCW days, the thread deteriorated into a "This is better, no this is better, but this show has..." etc.

And Jericho, I was a bit surprised at the Eugene character. I thought it was in bad taste also and I hope they kill that storyline fast.

H12 04-11-2004 02:49 PM

Eugene, eh...at least it's not what Goldust became in his final days.

Prophecy 04-13-2004 06:48 PM

Last I read about the Eugene char he was getting good fan support in the house shows and the mangement was big on him. I doubt he's going anywhere any time soon.

A quote from Steveswrestling.com
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Despite e-mails from fans and several online petitions going around, the "Eugene" character isn't expected to end anytime soon. Management is said to be very happy with the character and how the fans have been reacting to it.

And supposedly Goldust was having fun with the stuttering gimic. Though your right it was a shame to see what he became in last few months of his WWE career.

Does anyone like this heel turn by Booker T? I'm still waiting to see how it plays out myself.

Edit: I might be a bit behind, but I just found out the WWE is supposedly going to bring back the WCW now instead of the ECW. They even have plans to have a PPV called Great American Bash in June. Personally I'd love to see the the Four Horsemen make a come back if they actually created a new fed.

Reese 04-14-2004 03:45 AM

Seperate threads for TNA :) I just hope I get fox sports :)

The Eugene Character is in bad taste, but He's All good in my book for doing the bushwackers impression and licking King's face. Thats 5 star entertainment there...

I've never liked Booker T, So I'm glad he's a heel. I like the "I'm getting screwed over and I'm pissed" attitude.

JohnnyRock 04-14-2004 05:47 AM

I think the Booker turn works only if it is the catalyst for a new WCW or ECW since it revolves around the Smackdown! is the minor leagues premise. If not it just wrecks what little credibility Smackdown has these days [the show has been horrible the last month or so, while Raw has been ON].

H12 04-15-2004 10:22 PM

I'd have fun with Goldust's gimmick too; there's not much that I would enjoy more than yelling obsenities on live television, then can pass it off because I was portraying someone with turrets.

Booker T...I don't get SmackDown!, so I can't really judge. I think it'd be interesting if he brought in WCW, but that feeling wouldn't last for long because I remember how the WCW Invasion went.

JoeyB 04-20-2004 02:32 PM

I am fascinated by the constant rumors of Vince bringing back ECW or WCW or NWA or the AWA or Mid-South or anything else.


I LOVE wrestling and have for the last 25 years.....BUT...I would be stunned if McMahon ever did anything that didn't have the WWE/WWF brand all over it. His large ego is what has made him successful and turned a regional promotion into the media entity that it is today.

His large ego is what will prevent him from ever giving a push to something that he didn't create.

Remember the initial WCW "invasion"?? It was led by Shane McMahon....it eventually had Steve Austin attached to it.

Although it would be fun to see, I'm not holding my breath.

Kaos 04-21-2004 12:54 PM

http://www.wwe.com/news/headlines/1256373

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WWE and Steve Austin part ways

After months of negotiations, the WWE and Steve Austin have been unable to come to terms on a new contract and as a result have mutually agreed to part company.

Both parties have left the door open to work together again in the future and the WWE wishes Steve the very best in his future endeavors.
Personally I'm happy to see him go. No one was ever allowed to get "over" with him around. He would always give the last beatdown and leave the other wrestlers looking bad.

ChrisJericho 04-21-2004 03:30 PM

He'll be back.

JohnnyRoyale 04-21-2004 04:17 PM

Wonder if the new assault charge had something to do with Steve going?

brandon11983 04-21-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisJericho
He'll be back.

*fingers crossed*

bond007 04-22-2004 05:48 PM

as for the Women's division:

I liked crazy, disturbed Victoria better than happy, shiny Victoria.
Trish is slowly, but surely getting comfortable in her role as a Heel.
Lita needs to go back to the visible thong look... and lose the tattoo!
Molly... geez, hope she got a big, fat paycheck to make up for that buzzcut!
Gail Kim -- very cute, but needs a better gimmick.
Stacy should reprise her role as Ms. Hancock (from WCW days).
Torrie, Sable & Dawn Marie need to go back to wrestling school.
Nidia and Jackie should just stage a series of wet t-shirt contests!

and, though she's not offically a wrestler... I'd like to see Lillian Garcia get more involved in the storylines.

H12 04-22-2004 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by bond007
and, though she's not offically a wrestler... I'd like to see Lillian Garcia get more involved in the storylines.
Sorry, but I must disagree with you 110%. I see no entertainment that an anthem-singing ring annoucer could bring into WWE television.

JohnnyRock 04-23-2004 09:35 AM

I'm getttin more na more dissapointed with Smackdown!--I only hope last nights Dudley turn is the start of a new ECW!!!

bond007 04-23-2004 01:02 PM

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I see no entertainment that an anthem-singing ring annoucer could bring into WWE television.
if nothing else, it'd be for the T&A factor...

ChrisJericho 04-23-2004 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by JohnnyRock
I'm getttin more na more dissapointed with Smackdown!--I only hope last nights Dudley turn is the start of a new ECW!!!
I usually have Smackdown on in my bedroom as I'm playing Counter-Strike or Desert Combat, whereas when RAW is on, I am doing nothing else but watching it.

I think the main reason I don't fully commit to watching Smackdown is because whenever I glance over my shoulder at the TV I see Chavo, or Bradshaw, or Rikishi, or Charlie Haas....... no one that catches my interest. However when RAW is on, I'm constantly bombarded with stars such as Ric Flair, HBK, HHH, Jericho, The Dudleyz, etc. These wrestlers aren't just good in the ring, but they are usually attached to an interesting angle.

Really the bottom line is this: RAW is entertaining because it has both stars and storylines. Smackdown doesn't have the stars OR the storylines and is therefore................ boring.

H12 04-25-2004 04:50 PM

You must not be watching RAW too closely either, because I haven't seen the Dudleyz on it in awhile. =P

DownwardSpiral 05-09-2004 10:40 AM

WWE seriously needs some new writer's or something. They need to learn how to take the talented people they have and make them worth having on TV. I mean I hate seeing someone as good as Matt Hardy being reduced to nothing but Kane's punching bag. It's really sad. Raw is obviously superior to SmackDown though, which is why the WWE either needs to even out the rosters, or just kill the whole Brand Extention angle all together. The way this whole Brand thing is going right now, only a matter of time before SmackDown is reduced to nothing but Nunzio and Chavo Guererro Jr. matches all over the place or more JBL rants on about how we should strive to be like him, yaya etc. I dunno, but it's really sad what they're doing, lol.

Until we meet again. . .

SpikeQX99 05-09-2004 12:15 PM

I'm so bored with wrestling right now, it's sad. I was the biggest fan for years, and now I can watch the first 3-4 minutes of the show and just by seeing the card for the night, I can predict the winners and storyline outcomes.

WWE needs something...Anything to freshen up the stale atmosphere they have right now. And It's certainly not bradshaw... Fuck...Who's he sucking off in the upper management to get a title push?

What about some of the lesser guys? Like Shelton Benjamin? This guy as a singles wrestler is amazing. I hated the World's greatest tag team and the team angle thing, but since he's been out on his own, I like what I see. I think he could be the future of the WWE and they should take that and run with it.

Hopefully if they do, they won't turn all his matches into squashes or some horribly predictable side show, like the Brock Lesnar/One Legged Kid thing. Or Eugene.

Are the bookers and writers on crack? What's with this retard gimmick? I think they may be mocking themselves to show that even a retard can get over in the WWE with the right kind of push.

I'm done

brandon11983 05-09-2004 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by SpikeQX99
I'm so bored with wrestling right now, it's sad. I was the biggest fan for years, and now I can watch the first 3-4 minutes of the show and just by seeing the card for the night, I can predict the winners and storyline outcomes.

WWE needs something...Anything to freshen up the stale atmosphere they have right now. And It's certainly not bradshaw... Fuck...Who's he sucking off in the upper management to get a title push?

What about some of the lesser guys? Like Shelton Benjamin? This guy as a singles wrestler is amazing. I hated the World's greatest tag team and the team angle thing, but since he's been out on his own, I like what I see. I think he could be the future of the WWE and they should take that and run with it.

Hopefully if they do, they won't turn all his matches into squashes or some horribly predictable side show, like the Brock Lesnar/One Legged Kid thing. Or Eugene.

Are the bookers and writers on crack? What's with this retard gimmick? I think they may be mocking themselves to show that even a retard can get over in the WWE with the right kind of push.

I'm done

I totally concur. I haven't even seen the show for months and I know it sucks. I get a quick briefing from my mom on the goings on for the night and have no interest in watching.

You are right on with the Shelton Benjamin thing, too. I hated the World's Whiniest Tag Team, but Shelton is awesome by himself. He is taltented and seems to be able to work the crowd pretty well. Now I just hate Charlie Haas.

meanSpleen 05-09-2004 05:42 PM

<---------- I've been saying Shelton Benjamin is awesome for how long? And how long did people think I was crazy here?

heh, can I call it or what?

As for Charlie Haas, I realized that he isn't as bad as I previously thought. When you are teamed with someone of Shelton's caliber, you always look bad. I'll give him (Haas) props for being an above average wrestler. He can probably handle a larger wrestling move repertoire, as he can perform the basic maneuvers reasonably well.

Oh yeah. His current character does suck. But it should change later on, when he's allowed to have a character more like how he is in real life (unless this is how he really is, then there is no hope for him at all)

holtmate 05-09-2004 05:58 PM

Real quick gimmick idea...
Rock, Mick Foley, Val Venis and Brock Lesnar team up...
The Rock, Sock, Cock, and Brock Connection!!!

Btw, I got tickets for Bad Blood in June, and Raw the night after, so that should be fun.

SpikeQX99 05-11-2004 05:54 PM

sorry for doubting you 'spleen!!

meanSpleen 05-11-2004 06:18 PM

You should be!! Doom to those who doubt me... DOOM!!


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In other news:

Grandmaster Sexay has been fired (again) from the WWE. Only took him a month this time around. heh

rockzilla 05-11-2004 06:28 PM

After last night, I'm diggin' the Eugene gimmick. I like despite Bischoff (and Regal) wanting Eugene to lose, he still pulled out the win, while staying in character. On top of that, he was pretty over with the crowd. I still have a few doubts about the gimmick, and Nick Dinsmore is going to have to lose it at some point if he's going to be taken seriously. No upper card wrestler can still be credible after losing to a "very special wrestler". Look at how long it's taken Matt Hardy to get TV time after losing to Zach Gowen (where is he, by the way?)

I figured HHH/Benjamin #3 was going to be a way for HHH to get a sketchy win, and get his heat back. I was a little off. Shelton didn't get anything out of the match, it was booked to lead into an HHH/HBK match. At least that means that HHH probably won't be getting a title shot next week, unless HBK forces his way into that, making the Bad Blood main event Benoit/HHH/HBK - The Real Final Encounter, Just Like How The Eagles Are Done Touring Now.

evilbeefchan 05-11-2004 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by rockzilla
After last night, I'm diggin' the Eugene gimmick. I like despite Bischoff (and Regal) wanting Eugene to lose, he still pulled out the win, while staying in character. On top of that, he was pretty over with the crowd. I still have a few doubts about the gimmick, and Nick Dinsmore is going to have to lose it at some point if he's going to be taken seriously. No upper card wrestler can still be credible after losing to a "very special wrestler". Look at how long it's taken Matt Hardy to get TV time after losing to Zach Gowen (where is he, by the way?)

I was thinking the same thing after watching. He's going to be popular for a while, but he's going to lose his appeal soon. Unless he has a freak accident and he gets knocked "right"? Hey, if psychiatrists back in the 19th century thought it could happen, then BAIGAWD~!! it can happen in wrestling!

I can just imagine what the storyline for Regal and Eugene is. Regal slowly starts to accept Eugene. Bischoff, still angry at Regal, manipulates Eugene into believing that Regal is his enemy, and that Bischoff is the only one that loves him. Then Eguene and Regal go on to headline the next wrestlemania in a 5 star classic ironman match. Hey, I have dreams too!

Another Eugene item: His theme kinda reminds me of something you would hear from a Nintendo game. Like from Kirby's stage in Smash Bros. Melee or something. Once he turns evil, it can turn all demented and stuff, like they did with ~Evil~ Doink.

ChrisJericho 05-12-2004 03:55 PM

Some comments about RAW last night.

I have already voiced my opinion reagarding the use of Eugene as comedy. However, much to my dismay, I actually enjoyed his match. No, not because of his "character" but because it actually featured....... wrestling! Every single move wasn't an irish whip into the ropes, and when was the last time you saw someone win a match wiith a BRIDGE!?

Also, did Gail Kim get a boob job?

THE Jericho/Christian cage match as ok... had a good few moments, but somehow I was just expecting more. It'll be interesting to see if Trish leaves Christian now since he bailed on her when she was in the Walls.

I think RAW is finally back on an upward trend, but we'll see how long that lasts.

DownwardSpiral 05-12-2004 04:35 PM

Yeah, RAW seems to be slowly coming up, but as for SmackDown! They need some help over there. I still say WWE needs to do something to liven up SmackDown! and RAW. Maybe we should all send letters to McMahon demanding new writers and angles! Haha like that would work but it's a thought.

pan6467 05-12-2004 05:07 PM

With TNA-NWA getting a FoxSports Channel contract it may add pressure to McMahon to make a change.

ChrisJericho 05-14-2004 01:05 AM

But did Gail Kim get a boob job ???

meanSpleen 05-16-2004 09:20 AM

I think Gail got a sports bra that Lifts and Pushes together.

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SPLEENS JUDGEMENT DAY LOSERS PREDICTIONS

Thats right. In honor of the GREATEST ppv ever imagined, I will not be predicting the winners of all the STAR STUDDED matches. Nay, I shall be choosing the LOSERS who will lose for our enjoyment and pleasure

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GUERRERO VS. BRADSHAW
Loser: Bradshaw!!!
Easily the best match of the night, Bradshaw will wow and astound us with his high-flying mat based techniques. Then lose when he goes for a hurricanrana and lands on his head. (note small amount of sarcasm)

UNDERTAKER VS BOOKER T
Loser: Booker T
In the Takers first PPV appearance since... his last PPV appearance, he smashes Booker T into oblivion for being a SD-hata (hater)

RENE DUPREE VS JOHN CENA
Loser: Cena
No matter what anyone says, this will be my TRUE favorite match of the night. I tire of Cena, and am a total mark for Dupree. Dupree french tickles all over Cena, turning Deez Nuts into Deez Peanut Butter

REY MYSTERIO/RVD VS THE DUDLEY BOYZ
Loser: All of us
Pssh. Fine. Loser: Rey/RVD

Jacqueline vs. Chavo Guerrero
...
Loser: Chavo (?)

Gunn & Holly vs. Haas & Rico
:O
Loser: Gunn/Holly
Dear god this is getting depressing

Torrie Wilson vs. Dawn Marie
Loser: Torrie Wilson
Dawn gets a win somehow.

Mordecai vs ________
Loser: _______
uhhh... I'm hyped to see Mordecai in action and all... but seriously. Your first PPV/Televised match, and its against a mystery person!?

ChrisJericho 05-16-2004 04:41 PM

Oh man... you KNOW Smackdown isn't doing so well when Eddie Guererro and Bradshaw are your main event. This is one of those matches where if it was on regular TV I would get up from the couch and go to the kitchen to make a sandwhich.

holtmate 05-16-2004 07:31 PM

That was a pretty bad PPV...The best match, IMO, was the Dudleys vs Rey/RVD. Everything else was downhill from there, but we did get to see Dawn Marie's thong...

So, how long do you think that Eddie will be recovering from all that blood loss...he was absolutely streaming blood!

ChrisJericho 05-17-2004 03:01 PM

So last night, I was looking to download anything off bit-torrent since I like taking advantage of my bandwidth at night. I saw the ppv available... I clicked on it....... began downloading.... looked at the card for that night..... then realized there were no matches I actually wanted to watch. Download cancelled.

SpikeQX99 05-18-2004 05:29 PM

What about the 20 man battle royale last night? A pretty impressive showing by 'spleens boy Shelton!

Man, talk about looking good in action. I think he's due a huge hype campaign soon. I'd like to see him and Orton go at it at the next PPV. Hopefully Randy takes him up on the challenge! That would be a candidate for match of the year, if it was booked right, and had Evolution banned from ringside!

H12 05-18-2004 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisJericho
Oh man... you KNOW Smackdown isn't doing so well when Eddie Guererro and Bradshaw are your main event. This is one of those matches where if it was on regular TV I would get up from the couch and go to the kitchen to make a sandwhich.
Storylines like that are what keeps me from getting angry for not having UPN.

ChrisJericho 05-19-2004 05:45 AM

Did anyone catch what Orton said to Benjamin last night? What the f*ck did Orton mean with the "That's just like YOU people" comment? I realize WWE is entertainment, but racism is definitely not something that should be condoned.

SpikeQX99 05-19-2004 03:52 PM

I think they are gonna try some sort of Randy Orton redneck racist angle... What a waste of talent if they do...

DownwardSpiral 05-27-2004 03:33 PM

SmackDown! should just change it's name to WCW and get it over with, because slowly it is becoming WCW, in my view. I seriously hope NWA - TNA gets a tv contract sometime soon.

rockzilla 05-27-2004 04:05 PM

I thought NWA-TNA had a TV deal with Fox Sports. They were going to try 6 months of it, I can't remember when this was supposed to start though.

evilbeefchan 05-27-2004 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockzilla
I thought NWA-TNA had a TV deal with Fox Sports. They were going to try 6 months of it, I can't remember when this was supposed to start though.
Next Friday, June 4th I believe.

Actually, sometimes I feel that Smackdown is alot worse than Thunder sometimes. At least there was a guaranteed CRUISERWEIGHT match every thunder.

JohnnyRock 05-28-2004 06:13 AM

I've lost such interest in Smackdown! Imagine, they can't find anything worthwhile to do with talend like the Dudleyz, RVD, Booker and Eddie Guerrero...what a WASTE!!!

Maveric 05-29-2004 07:26 PM

i can't watch this shit anymore.
both Raw and Smackdown just seem like pale immitations of the past shows.
however, i saw the eddie guerro special and liked it.
WWE not having any competition is becoming very noticeable. The WWE needs to step up.

evilbeefchan 05-31-2004 02:36 PM

Update for NWA:TNA IMPACT premire this Friday June 4th:

<a href="http://www.nwatna.com/impact/index.html" target="_new">Their website</a> lists the times it airs. Here on the westcoast it's going to start at 3pm, which means I need to learn myself the VCR.

They also have a few teaser pics of their set and stage.

JohnnyRoyale 05-31-2004 05:09 PM

Interesting...the website says it's at 3, but yahoo's tv listings says noon. I'd double check the times as friday approaches.

ChrisJericho 05-31-2004 10:31 PM

RAW tonight made me sleepy.

The Orton/Benjamin match was pretty good though.

Thank god the WWE is finally going to have some competition again. I got tired of the Jericho/Stratus feud 3 weeks ago and we have to suffer through Michaels vs HHH for the three hundredth time.

evilbeefchan 06-01-2004 11:25 PM

The hot crowd really made the La Rez/Benoidge match much more enjoyable. Nice emotional post match celebration. Anyone know the name for their tag team finisher? The french boot or something?

I really liked the Orton/Benjamin match, but I wish that Benjamin would use his Dragon Whip, or at least turn his powerslam into a full blown EXPLODER~!! suplex. And get some new tights, man! Yeah yeah, minor stuff. But I'm loving their matches. I'm hoping both their careers skyrocket to the main event soon. And was Orton ever more awesome than that backstage interview!

JoeyB 06-03-2004 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyRoyale
Interesting...the website says it's at 3, but yahoo's tv listings says noon. I'd double check the times as friday approaches.

Comcast Sports Net Mid-Atlantic Saturday 4am



Um....I'll get right on that.

JohnnyRoyale 06-03-2004 04:33 PM

A Diva reality show...they been hunting the Fox trash cans for ideas?

Piston Honda 06-04-2004 04:07 AM

Who the hell is this Mordecai guy I saw on Smackdown last night? I haven't watched that show in months, and when I finally do tune in I see this crap? That is a completely ridiculous gimmick, and it looks like they recycled Jeff Jarrett's old country music singer costume for him.

evilbeefchan 06-07-2004 10:51 PM

Mordecai reminds me of gangrel turned new age evangelist. I enjoyed his entrance the first time I saw him, but it got very redundant after a while. He doesn't even look that intimidating at all. Seriously, he reminds me of those old Chinese kung fu masters with the fu-manchu's, but not as cool. He needs to stroke his beard more often.

brandon11983 06-08-2004 08:00 PM

I caught the tail end of RAW last night. All I saw was the Orton/HBK match. That was a pretty damn good match. The only low point was Orton's attempted sell of the figure 4 applied by HBK. Not convincing at all. At all. As soon as I saw Batista ordered down to the ring by HHH, I thought it would be all over for my man HBK. I was bouncing off the walls when Batista came in the ring for some action and HBK mopped the floor with him!! I thought that Orton would have had time to recover while HBK was whooping ass on Batista, but no! SWEET CHIN MUSIC FOR YOU!! What bitch? You wanna bring in a chair? Well have a kick in the nuts!! Ref wants to take my chair? I'll clobber his ass and go to town on Orton and Batista!! Now I wants me some of that HHH action, so I'm gonna go up and get some. A little bitch slappin' on Flair's white headed ass, and its HBK/HHH in the skybox!! Hell yeah beyotch!!

**in case you haven't noticed, I haven't seen wrestling in a while, so I was mega pumped to see it.

pan6467 06-14-2004 05:33 PM

Anyone watching RAW????

I am not a mark for much as I know it is well scripted to say the least, But either Shawn Micheals got totally injured and it was the real thing or my amazement for Micheals' acting job just skyrocketed because that looked real.

Anyone know if it was a work or a shoot? I know Micheals was getting 6 weeks off for vacation, and injuries usually are the way they do it. But either I am the world's biggest mark and Mr. Gullible or HBK really got hurt and in a very serious bad way.

(PS One humourous thing: JR: "I got HBK's blood all over my hands from consoling him. His blood is covering my hands and I don't know if that's such a good thing.")

ChrisJericho 06-15-2004 01:23 AM

Definitely a work IMO, looks like Michaels popped a blood capsule.

Piston Honda 06-15-2004 05:11 AM

If he was really injured to that degree:

1) Would they have left the cameras on?

and

2) Would Sgt. Slaughter and other various referees have been assisting the "medics"?

JohnnyRock 06-15-2004 06:48 AM

If it is on TV and stays on TV it is a work...

pan6467 06-15-2004 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyRock
If it is on TV and stays on TV it is a work...
Not necessarily, they have aired serious injuries before, example: back a few years ago when Droz rammed into the ring post and broke his neck they kept airiing the whole thing.

I thought it was a blood capsule also but the when you see Kane's face and him going over and getting help (Kane is not that good of an actor).

Also, with works 90% of the time they have the guy getting beaten as he's going to the ambulance, and so on.

Quote:

Originally posted by Piston Honda
If he was really injured to that degree:

1) Would they have left the cameras on?

and

2) Would Sgt. Slaughter and other various referees have been assisting the "medics"?

As for Refs and Slaughter one of the requirements to being a ref (from what I have been told) is that they have some emergency medical training in case something bad happens, as they are the first ones that can truly do anything.

meanSpleen 06-15-2004 08:48 PM

The "blood" did not coagulate fast enough. The entire 15-20 minutes of the thing, the blood remained wet, even after the inital flow of blood had stopped.

that... and the ambulance wasn't even turned on. I mean, when they were going to put him into it, the lights in the back were not even on. The ambulance was pitch black. :)

evilbeefchan 06-15-2004 09:25 PM

It was a really impressive visual with the blood spurting out the mouth, and totally had my girlfriend convinced it was real. But then they kept showing the camera angle where it seems Kane barely lands on the chair's legs. Good stuff, though.

I really liked that main event, and it was a real suprise that it went over so long.

Reese 06-16-2004 01:27 AM

They will keep showing an injury, Take Sid Vicious for example. He jumped off the ropes and snapped his leg in half and Scott Steiner stomped him for 2-3 minutes before he realized he was hurt and pinned him. Steiner never broke character, or he's just that much of an asshole :)

I was suprised RAW went that long. I think they are going to start doing that more often because they still have so much talent that's not getting enough airtime.

JohnnyRoyale 06-16-2004 05:36 AM

Last I heard, the Michaels injury was a work. He's been looking for vacation time to spend with his family (his wife is apparnetly pregnant), so they did that to get him out for a few weeks.

holtmate 06-18-2004 01:42 PM

So...quick recap from this past weekend. I decided to go to both Bad Blood and the Raw on Monday.
Both were very entertaining. During the Bad Blood title match, people were actually going to get food to prepare for the cell match. I found that pretty amusing.
On Monday, we were sitting right by where Joe Schmoe was, and he was a great guy. All night, he was signing autographs and doing pictures with fans. I loved the look on Edge's face when he saw "Joe" holding an Edge sign. It was classic.
Needless to say, I am just now getting my voice back. If there are fans out there who haven't gone to a RAW taping, I highly recommend it. Lots of fun!!

evilbeefchan 06-28-2004 11:27 PM

What's the status of Ultimo Dragon in the WWE? I saw him on Saturday in a match against American Dragon at the NJPW USA dojo here in SoCal, but they advertised it as a "special event," and they turned off the cameras during his match. Has he been released, or does he have a special deal where he can work other events outside of WWE? He also brought one of his students from Toryumon X. The sailor guy. I forgot his name.

Regal looked really good tonight in his match. He's lost alot of his bulk, and seems alot smoother in the ring. Kinda wished they spent longer trying to build him up as a face. Half the crowd was actually cheering when Eugene was beating him up.

Anyone planning on getting Ric Flair's book?

holtmate 07-02-2004 09:17 PM

Okay...so does anyone else think that the Great American Bash was one of the worst PPVs ever? I'm so glad I saw that for free...

holtmate 07-11-2004 07:33 PM

Woohoo!!! Vengeance was great! I loved the Edge/Orton match...they should have saved that til the end, IMO.
Plus, watching Eugene do Flair was right up there with the Big Schmo's "Showster". I can't wait for the rematches at Summerslam.

Okay...I have a question for you guys...there was a Benoit video they've been playing during the shows, and there was a song playing that the chorus kinda went "If I gave it all away, wouldn't that be something" It's slower, and I've been hearing it on the radio recently, but I haven't heard the artist yet. Any ideas?

Vilkata 07-11-2004 10:54 PM

Song is by Finger Eleven. I think it's called One Thing.



On another note, Finger Eleven also does Kane's entrance music.

holtmate 07-12-2004 03:05 AM

Vilkata, thanks.
As for Kane's music, I was listening to the Punisher soundtrack when I heard that one. I did a double take there. I did not expect to hear Kane's music. I would have loved for that to have been the song playing when he was fighting The Russian. Ah well.


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