Test over Big Poppa Pump did surprise me, although it shouldn't have. Just like the WWE to make Stacy be her own undoing. Orton over HBK is no shocker at all. Just like the Legend Killer to get the big win with the aid of Grampa Flair.

Jericho jobbed again, go figure.

Well, at least Jericho can now be back in the title hunt against Goldberg...and he wrestled a damn good match, IMO. He even did his old flex pin - I haven't seen him do that in a while.

After a long broken-computer related hiatus, I'm back, and I caught Unforgiven last night at a fairly loud movie theatre (my second favorite way to watch a PPV, in a bar is #1), here are a few thoughts :

Rob Conway's head bouncing off the table looked almost as nasty as when it happened to Spike Dudley. I'm guessing now the Dudleyz will go on to feud with Mark Henry and Rodney Mack, which will be just as boring as La Resistance.
I figured Test was going to win, it's the only way to keep this ridiculous, overstretched fued going. My friend and I were laughing at the absurdity of losing a wrestling match being some kind of legally binding contract for Steiner's soul.
I knew Shane was going to lose to Kane, but I knew he was going to do something crazy. His dive off the set sparked a 'Holy Shit' chant in the theatre, as did swinging the camera into Kane's face.
The JR/King vs. Coach/Snow match was made infinitely longer and more painful to watch due to the fact that there was no commentary, so everyone just yelled at the screen or went to the bathroom.
HHH/Goldberg was better than I expected 'cause it was about half as long as I thought it would be.
If I had to pick a match of the night it would be RVD/Jericho/Christian, but even that wasn't very good. Like holtmate said, I hope that since Jericho lost, it means he'll be working with Goldberg, although my guess is that HHH'll take his title back in a couple of months.

WWE would of made a HUGE mistake to not put Orton over in this match. It would of meant that the last couple of months of him gimmick were all for nothing. I think the way they did the finish was good. It let Orton keep his heat because he beat HBK, which elevates his status. HBK didn't come out looking like a loser since he technically beat Orton at one point during the match.

I think Michaels shouls have won, personally, I just wanna see Orton lose, I hate that moron. But you're right it was a good business move having him win but I can hope, eh?

I'm sure they will have Michaels get his revenge sooner or later. Probably another match halfway between now and Survivor Series.

Of course, from what I hear HHH is gonna be out for awhile to heal injuries, marry Steph, and take his honeymoon so Orton could very well be pushed as a dominant heel in the next few weeks. I guess we'll just see what happens.

What is everyones thoughts on SmackDown? I like the idea of 'Taker getting a title shot, and I thought the Tajiri/Mysterio match was great.

Damn, i missed it the other night. I heard the Tajiri/Mysterio match was pretty kick ass though.

The Tajiri-Mysterio match was awesome.I was shocked Tajiri won though.

Looks like at the next PPV we are gonna have:

Undertaker Vs Lesnar - confirmed
Vince Vs Steph - confirmed
Angle Vs Cena - not confirmed
Guerrero Vs Big Show - not confirmed

Now while I'm not really to excited about another Lesnar Vs Taker feud(we had this last year at the same exact time) I'm sure they will make it play out to have Lesnar look like even more of a monster. The possible Cena Vs Angle feud looks like it could be great. Two great workers who can put on amazing matches. It'll definitly be great to watch. The Guerrero-Show match could be possibly good. Just depends on how their respective styles blend in the ring.

Now, for the love of god, what did we do to deserve a Vince Vs Steph match? The only thing the WWE could do stupider then this is make it the MAIN EVENT. Let's hope that doesn't happen. :(

A very good point. WWE storylines have been severely lacking lately. And this whole Vince vs. Steph thing is not helping.

Yes all it does is hold back more talent. In place of the Vince Vs Steph match we could have a Matt Hardy match, a Shannon Moore match, heck any of the talent that deserves a spot on the card. Not this trash. At least Raw has the actually talented McMahon, Shane. He may not be the best wrestler, but he doesn't hog the camera and he can take some sick bumps.

I hope at No Mercy Tajiri and Mysterio go for match # 3

I think they could have just ended the trouble with the World Wildlife Fund and changed toteh MWF--McMahon Wrestling Federation...Too MANY McMahon's...That is why it's been more than a year since I spent $$ for a PPV!!!!

I just got done watching RAW and I must say the RVD vs. Christian Ladder match was great! I loved that match personally. The best match i've seen on RAW in ages. I'm also happy that J.R and Lawler are back commentating. Coach and Snow weren't too great if I don't say so myself.

that ladder match was awesome and it had some sick bumps...
the one where Christian pulled RVD into to the ladder (springboard or monkey flip?) from the mat was the one of the sickest bumps I've seen on a non ppv WWE broadcast, it looked like RVD didn't his hands up in time to block the ladder...

Not to mention when RVD did the Senton over the top rope to hit Christian and the ladder on the outside. I'm surprised RVD is still walking after some the stuff that guy does.

Just finished watching the ladder match, which unfortunately is all I got to see of Raw :(. Great match, wished they would of had more time but being a TV broadcast I understand the little amount of time they had. Loved the match though. I was sure they were gonna have Christian go over RVD, but WWE fooled me. Good job :)


Now, off to go read the Raw results :p

before the ladder match, did you see the camera crew screw up christian's entrance as he was walking to the ring... he was walking (more like struting) down the hallway and passes a beaten up lita and trish, gives them a big smile and thumbs up and says "LADIES :)" and struts off... then the camera crew tells him to walk back down the hallway and try it again so he turns around and heads back. it was funny listening to king and jr trying to recover...

ladder match was awesome. as much as i think christian's character is stale and boring he is without a doubt one of the "kings of ladder matches". i liked him best when he was with edge and they were pulling "shinannigans" on the other wrestlers...

RVD needs to take it to the next level... what's holding him back? he needs to either start taking initiative or something else...

i know the wrestlers don't have much say on the storylines but from all the "behind the scenes" stories i have ever seen or heard it was when wrestlers either broke out of character, did something not planned, improvised, etc., etc. that the best most memorable moments in wrestling happened.

IMHO, i seriously think WWE should be more improvised and the wrestlers should have alot more control over their characters/ personas...

did anyone else see Shawn micheals blade himself :) ?

sometimes i hate being a smark ;)

I havent had cable T.v. in over a year, and this was my first raw since really 2001. It was pretty good. I like Christian and he is a great midcard talent. I say midcard because him and Rob just dont have what it takes to hold the strap convincingly for long. I dont think Goldberg does either, but he's over with fans..and you have to feed his ego or he'll walk. I could have lived w/o the "heel anouncers" and that match, but it was fairly quick and mildly entertainng as well. I think it was interested that the announcers were supposed to be heels, but chastized Steiner for hitting Stacey. Come on guys, which side of the fence are you on?


Anywho.. overall.. it was a good show..

Its all shades of grey my friend its all shades of grey.
And I thought it was Test that hit Stacey...

The problem with RVD is he is SUCH a high risk player that I can imagine the management does not want him in a top spot, just to lose him to injury. The only person they ever let get away with suff like that is Mick Foley, and I don't think they want to do it again. RVD is super impressive, but you just know he is going to get hurt pretty bad someday. The WWE is pretty loathe to have that happen if he is say...the WWE champ.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

Good point, When RVD did that Five Star off of the ladder to the ladder below (when Christian moved out of the way) it looked like it hurt like a hell of a lot...

A few quick notes:

1) The Christian/RVD match was the match of the month. Terrific spots, some actual pain, and a hella good match. Sad that Christian isn't INTERcontinental CHAMP. I'm one of his peeps. T_T sniff sniff

2) I guessed in my Unforgiven guessing that the duo of Snow and Coach would last 2 weeks on RAW. I was right. Now pay up.

3) Dear god... Steiners evil... Oh wait, he still sucks. Lets put him in a Championship match with Goldberg. That would surely bring up the ratings. :P

Gotta agree with the props for the ladder match...some great spots!!! the women's stuff is being handled really well [and they are putting on some of the top matches and promos, too].

I'm already sick of the King and his Puppies again!!

Mark Henry and Goldber...zzzzzzzz

Jericho is RAW!!! He and Austin are consistantly the most entertaining every week.

RVD has already taken it above, and beyond almost anything you can think of, any major move you can think that has happened in the WWE, RVD has probably done in the past, and most of them onto concrete, stretchers, or other extremely unforgiving surfaces. The WWE is the only thing holding him back. Remember Juvi in WCW? He had a tryout for the WWE. The WWE tells him, "Slow down your wrestling and only do one or two highspots, because our fans can't catch up and don't like too many high spots." Juvi said screw them, and pulled out everything he had, high spots, luche libre, everything. Never offered a contract afterwards because he went against the WWE management. I strongly doubt he will ever get a contract in the WWE because of that instance. You know Tommy Dreamer right? Dreamer has pulled at least as many high spots as RVD. Ever seen him do anything big in the WWE?

For a WWE fan, maybe. If you watched ECW, you remembered the matches, not the improv political bullshit around it. I remember the first Van Terminator, I remember Rhino and the Sandman going at it, I remember RVD and Sabu, and RVD against Sabu. THAT was entertainment.

What? Are you insane? Vince give up creative power, and put it squarely out of his control? I can list a whole bunch of jack-ass sayings like "Satan will build a snowman before that happens" but I'll just answer you straight. That will never, EVER, happen with Vince alive and in charge. And that is without even bringing up all the logistical problems. Why would someone go for the European title if they can go on their own for the world title?

It was more fun watching Steve Corino. It became more of a joke than anything. "He cut himself open already? It's not even 3 minutes into the match!"

I've kinda lost touch with this thread and not followed it for a while.

I watch Raw for the most part, Smackdown just isnt convenient for me so more often than not I either miss is completely or see only bits and pieces

When did Bradshaw get the style change, I didnt recognize him at all! I quite like the new look, makes him look much younger and much bigger in my opinion.

Bradshaw came back with the now look a few weeks, or maybe a month ago...

What Johnny said.

He was on the injured list, so he took some time off to write another book. He also got a haircut and started to work out. You notice that his man boobs aren't as floppy anymore?

I'm just waiting for the APA to have a GOOD fued with a team. Not La Ouisistance or the Dudleyz. Its been played to death with those teams. I wouldn't mind seeing the APA not backing the Mack. Get Teddy Long mixed up in there somehow...

that would work...love the APA but no gimmick can work forever without a GOOD fued...

Well Spleen, you'd have to move Mack and Henry to Smackdown or APA to RAW for thoise tow teams to feud.

Or we can have a new show!

We'll take all the talent from Velocity and Heat, and scramble them together in a hybrid show! We can have the best of all the great unused talent, and all the guys who just aren't that good! Then, we can have new titles, new outfits, and new announcers... *sigh*

Yeah, well, about the brand differences. Umm.. Move. Yeah. :D APA belong on RAW anyway.

Not that anyone asked but here's my thoughts for the lacking RAW tag division. Pair Tommy Dreamer with Kanyon. One is teh Innovator of Violence the other is the Innovator of Offense. Make them an extremely heel tag team. I mean Kevin Sullivan 80's Florida NWA heel. (Boy is that an obscure reference) And then maybe people will care about the RAW tag titles again.

Is Kanyon and Dreamer still under contract with the WWE anyway?

Steiner reminds me of Cotton from King of the Hill,maybe its the way he talks....... or the way his head looks

Kanyon is still with WWE. They are working on a "new" character for him. In reality, its just his old one that they are reviving. Look for him sometime between now and next year (yeah, thats real obvious) to hopefully make an impact on RAW or Smackdown. Hopefully RAW.

Tommy Dreamer is also with the WWE still. He has a severely sucky role with the company, as they don't see anything in him. I think he will be teaming with Stevie Richards (another great talent with no future in the WWE), to work Tag Matches.

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EDIT:

So I'm watching RAW right now, staring at Lita, when it hits me. Or it hit Kane. I don't know. But was it just me, or was the crowd chanting "Bullshit" after the crash?

I didn't hear the crowd, but the wreck looked serious, of course I tuned in late and didn't see the actual head on crash, just the aftermath.

And after the end of RAW does anyone foresee Shawn Michaels having a bigger part to play in the Bounty on Goldberg's Head plot?

It’s kind of sad but I had more fun watching the Y2J & Christian vs. RVD & Lance Storm match than any other of the show tonight, even the Goldberg match wasn't that grand, it was nice to see Mark Henry knock Goldberg around a bit though.

And is it just me or does Maven seem un-natural in his in ring character? The "Yea!! Get up!!" after every dropkick seems a bit much.

I decided not to watch the end of RAW, simply because Goldberg sucks, Mark Henry is extremely boring, and I knew that Shawn Michaels would get involved somehow. I'll probably find a re-cap tomorrow on one of the sites I read, so I can figure it from there.

On the topic of Maven: He's gotten better. I think he's up to 7 different moves now. Almost as much as Mark Jindrak has. (4 variations of a drop kick, and 4 variations of a "pick them up over your head and drop them" kinda move. ;))

The main problem with Maven, besides his lack of moves, is that he has no character. Basically, its the same guy we saw on Tough Enough. Look at Nidia, look at Jackie, look at Nowinski, look at Shaniqua (linda). They all have characters. While SHaniqua's is... bad, she does her best with it, and it is turning out pretty good. Why the hell she isn't on RAW going for the title is beyond me.

Maven, on the other hand, just has no where to grow. In the past (2-3 years) he hasn't DONE anything. He's fought his share of matches, televised and untelevised, but please... we need some work. It's nice that they are bunching him with the "young guns" (Jindrak and Lance Cade). Thats a start.

note: yes. I said Lance Cade.

And lets just say that teaming with Trish Stratus isn't exactly the best way to get up in the world. Everyone is going to cheer for her, and she'll be the dominant member in the team. Even if it is mixed.

Spleens tips for Maven's character:
1) Get one.

Thats it. :D

(LANCE FREAKING CADE DAMMIT)

All I gotta say about Raw is:


FINALLY! LANCE STORM HAS WON A MATCH AGAINST HIGH RANKED TALENT!!!


*tears*

I'm so happy :p

I watched heat a while back and their was some chinese guy named johnny chang(or something) he was a badass did anybody else see him

Maven, Jindrak, and Lance Cade. Where's Vince Russo and his New Blood Angle when you need him?

NWA:TNA - he's the head writer. ;)

i have a semi off topic question to ask you guys. Here in Vegas the cable company in all it's infinate wisdom took away the rights to order any PPV events/ movies from customers without digital cable. One of the reasons I subscribed to cable was to order NWA shows and wrestlemania,, now i cant even do that. There are millions of people living in Las Vegas, plus millions of tourists that stay in the hotels. Does anyone else have a similar problem with their cable provider?

It kinda blows cause Vegas doesnt gicve a shit about anything that isnt gambling, or a big money maker..
In order to watch a PPV for free here, i need to go toa Strip club.. what the hell? I assumed all Hooters, or BW3's were the official WWE zones in most cities. I gues i know where i'll be during wrestlemania.. ;) Getting a lapdance!

Hey man, you forgot to pay for for the last lapdance. No way in heck I'm giving you another freebie...


*cough cough*


anyway. Out here in SoCal, before Charter Communications buttraped Falcon Cable, we weren't even able to get PPV's due to Falcons overall suckyness. Mind that this was before digital cable was being rolled out aka 1993 and before. So we suffered, then waited, then hoped the video would be in stock at Blockbuster.

Am I the only one that doesnt LOVE RVD? Sure he's talented in ring but don't give him a mic. He's in the same boat as lance storm imo. great moves but a personality of a rock.(not The Rock) That's why he isnt a main eventer. It's not because he's a high risk. Mick Folly can work a crowd much better than RVD. I enjoy his matches and he's not getting the push he diserves. However he doesn't diserve a push to the top.

I'm starting to love Randy Orton as a heel, I cant imagine him any other way. He needs to dump HHH and Flair and get some less boring company.

Um... Did lita get implants or larger ones if she had some before?

Personally, RVD would make a great champion in my opinion. He may not have the best mic skills but he has some of the best in ring skills out there in the WWE, that would make him a good champion. Benoit would be a great champion too. Goldberg is a bit iffy, seeing as all he does is spears and jackhammers.

Whoa, way off buddy. Every big move in the WWE you've ever seen done, RVD has pretty much done. And he's done much, much more. Pick any RVD vs. Sabu match and it ABSOLUTELY wins over ANY WWF/E match. It's not even close. The problem isn't just the push, it's everything about him, the WWE has absolutely no idea how to manage talent. They can create it better than anyone, but they can't manage it to save their lives. Lance Storm was actually pretty good, especially with Justin Credible. What's the first thing the WWE does? Break them up, just like all other ECW talent. They had the perfect opportunity to just carry over everyone, all the stables and such from ECW, instead they want to create their own ideas. The end result: ECW wrestlers can't get a new persona since too many WWE fans know the ECW personas, and it's too late to reassemble everyone, so almost everyone from ECW is screwed. Especially guys like Tommy Dreamer and RVD.

Its the magic of the Push-Up bra. Availible at all the places Trish Stratus shops (Stratus is guilty of pushing past their limits)

The Impact Players were a great team in ECW because Storm was the technician, and Credible was the technician/spokesman/shock value. However, once you bring that into the realm of WWE, where everything is censored, all you get is technician, and technician/spokesman. No shock value. At that point, they become like every other team out there.

Not to say that they are not talented. If you go back in time through these pages, you'll see that I adore them both. Its just that WWEifying the Impact Players just would not work.

And everyone else already said stuff that I agree with about ECW and WWE. So I'll stop here

They brought back the FBI thing in a sense from ECW, so why not the Impact Players eh? I personally think WWE has some problems creating new storylines now, that's why they should have someone like me writing the storylines! Lol.

But the FBI has a built in story line. Everyone loves Italians right? At least I do. But thats besides the point. WWE is capitalizing on the nationality aspect of wrestling. Pretty much all of the United States is Pro U.S. wrestlers. They hate everyother nationality (La Ouisistance, The Quebeccers/Mounties, Jung Dragons, Oriental Express, FBI, etc) So its easy to get heat that way.

But if you think about it, what kind of built-in story did the Impact Players have? Storm was as charasmatic as he ever was, and Credible always seemed like a cheap Stone Cold knockoff (again, read my past posts, love them both). unless the creative team actually did something creative, they would just be another generic tag team (Jindrak/Cade).

Physically, Jindrak has a lot going for him. He just needs to work on his repertoie of moves. Cade has plenty of skill, just needs to work on his look. Otherwise, they are just 2 dudes that are beating up and getting beat by an old guy and their peer (Flair/Orton).

And don't get me started on Maven.

Lol, yes, true, Cade and Jindrak need some work, and Maven, he needs work too. But they should still have me at the head of he WWE creative team! lol.

im wondering why we dont see nidia in the ring anymore.. She doesnt have a wide array of moves, but all the ringwork i've seen her in has been pretty solid. Also..where are those last 2 tough enough boys? Vince letting their year contract run out in OVW?

Nidia: As soon as she got into the WWE, she was Jaime Nobles girlfriend/valet. AND she is on Smackdown. Smackdown doesn't have the Womans championship, just the cruiserweight championship. So she really has nobody to wrestle.

The Tough Enough 3 winners: They are still in OVW. It seems like all the winners take 2 years in OVW to hone their skills. But, get ready to barf now, they are wrestling as a Tag-Team. Guess what they are called... "TOUGH ENOUGH"

*BARF*

After seeing Raw tonight, I can honestly say this has been two times in a row I've enjoyed RAW. The 6 man tag was great.

OVW guys usually don't keep the same gimmick they had in OVW i.e. John Cena. Or was he in UPW? Anyway they're both WWE development feds.

you mean "Prototype" ? :)
I wonder if he's tired of his gimmick yet, i sure am.. Cena could be a great heel, if they stopped feeding him to the "legends" Feud with angle.. fine.. helps build cred.. frued with Mean Mark er.. Taker.. fine.. it builds cred too.. but if you do it EVERY FRIGGIN WEEK.. no one gives a shit after 2 PPV's. Randy Orton will find that out soon enough.

Speaking of Orton, how did that 8 man match go? i fell asleep after Booker T was introduced..
I cant find any recaps anywhere.

Booker, Shane and the Dudleyz won when Booker put Rob Conway through a table using the Book End.

Who else in here hopes that they quit messing around with Booker T's career and just give him the title shot that he has earned. Seriously. They should have given him the title a few months ago when he had that short feud with HHH. He is one of the only bright spots on that show anymore, and he just got back.

Can anyone validate why they have not done a major shakeup in the WWE line-up to get rid of wrestlers that are WAY past due. (EX: Flair, Steiner, HHH, GOLDBERG, etc.,etc.) *sigh*

Raw was pretty good this week. Booker T had a great return match. The only thing I don't agree with was Stone Cold stunning Stacy. Unless they have something planned for next week they totally ruined his whole angle because Stacy never 'physically provoked' him. Hopefully we see some kind of 'suspension' like we did two weeks ago.


Also on the Austin angle. Anyone else suspecting a possible Austin heel turn and a Jericho face turn? I think possibly the seeds were planted Monday. I doubt WWE would do it because the fans love Austin but it'd be great to see :D

When they tapped their beers together. As small as it was, it was a touch, and that can be construed as an attack! :D

I don't see it. I can understand if someone (austin) is pissed that someone else (kiebler) didn't like someones (austin) beer. So that is enough justification why he'll stay a face.

And Jericho probably isn't going face anytime soon. I mean, he's back with Christian. Storm in on his case (even though Storm is injured). And he's going to start molesting Trish again. "HOW YOU DOING?" :D



Because the Marks in the arenas mark out whenever any of those 4 you named enter the arena. If they got the reaction that say... oh... Jindrak and Lance Cade get, they would be out on their butts in the snow with no pants on.

SPLEENS UNMERCIFUL MERCUFYING OF NO MERCY (guesses, hypothesis and thoughts on the matches to come on Sunday Sunday Sunday!!)

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1) Lesnar vs Taker - Umm... who really cares? I don't. Undertaker has been getting soft lately. And pretty boring too. Lesnar is... lesnar. Dammit. Where's Heyman when you need him? (and Lesnar needs to lay off the Tan in a Bottle)
Winner: Lesnar

2) StepHHH vs VinnieMac - ?? At least her boobs will jiggle when she hits the mat.
Winner: VinnieMac. StepHHH quits. Comes back in 5 months as a preggo waffle.

3) Big Shmo vs Guerrero - ...
Winner: Eddie, and Chavo gets in the way.

4) Cena vs Angle - Cena will finally win at a PPV. Finally.
Winner: Cena

5) Rey vs Tajiri - Hmm... it will be close. But I think Tajiri is still suffering from the ECW vinnieBacklash. Rey will win, and Tajiri falls deeper into midcard hell.

6) Benoit vs. ATrain - Didn't we see this match already? Oh yeah, that was Big Shmo and Eddie.
Winner: Benoit.

7) Test vs Steiner - This one should be good. Test is the best wrestler EVER and Scott Steiner was made to be Champion. I'm buying this PPV for this match. Screw all the other matches. I'm video taping this part only.

Validate? No. Explain? Maybe. Goldberg, big contract, big name, small chance you get rid of him. Steiner, big contract, big name, small chance you get rid of him. Flair, massive, gigantic name, a lot of pull backstage, will only leave if he wants to. Triple H, has the most pull of those four, married the bosses daughter, he's going to be like Hulk Hogan and wrestle as long as he wants, and at the same "level" (world title) for the rest of his career.

yo spleen, test is out for 6 weeks or so with a broken foot. I don't think that match will make the PPV :P

Plus they are raw wrestlers and this is a smackdown ppv.

Man, can't take sarcasm can you? Why in the heck would I say that Test is the best wrestler EVER and Steiner is World Champ material?!?! :D

I just put it in there to see if anyone was really paying attention. I mean, they only fought at the past 4 PPV's and why break a streak? ;)

didn't Stu Hart die recently?

yes.. he did. :(
the link is here

i really and truly think that family is cursed

DownwardSpiral's predictions for No Mercy

Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker (WWE Championship)

As much as I want Lesnar to lose that probably won't happen seeing as he gets a huge push after hem loses the title every time, and he won't lose the belt after one month.

Winner: Brock Lesnar

Stephanie McMahon vs. Mr. McMahon (I Quit)

This match is a waste of time, but it's the only way Steph can get away from her job to get married I guess.

Winner: Mr. McMahon

Eddie Guererro vs. Big Show (U.S Championship)

I am going to have to disagree with you on this one Spleen and go with Big Show on this one, I'm thinking he'll win and be put back in a main story somehow. That and Eddie doesn't ned two belts anyway.

Winner: Big Show

John Cena vs. Kurt Angle

I think Angle will take Cena in this match, and Cena's PPV win will elude him once more.

Winner: Kurt Angle

Rey Mysterio vs. Tajiri (Cruiserweight Championship)

Well, I got my wish, Mysterio/Tajiri 3. I'm gonna go out on a limb and pull for Tajiri on this one. I like Tajiri's new heel thing.

Winner: Tajiri

Chris Benoit vs. A-Train

Do you have to ask? Benoit all the way, A-Train needs to be cut, he sucks.

Winner: Chris Benoit (BTW, does anyone else think Benoit deserves some recognition in WWE, or am I the only one?)

Matt Hardy vs. Zach Gowen

This match is a waste of time too, unless Shannon Moore makes a mistake in interfering (which is possible) Matt Hardy has this one in the bag.

Winner: Matt Hardy

There you have it, my predictions. Now watch as I am completely off on almost all of them! I'll be sure to post the results of the PPV Sunday as I did before. Until we meet again. . .

Oh hell, I didn't notice the V1Hardy vs. Gowan match!

Winner: V1 - duh. As much as I think Gowan is a lucky guy, it just ain't going to happen.. I'm a Mattitude follower anyway.

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As for Benoit - goddamn give the guy some respect. He has a huge workrate, and consistantly puts on a great match. Even with the likes of Rhyno, ATrain, and all the other guys who just don't make me happy.

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I just realized this 2 weeks ago on Saturday. Kanyon is butt ugly. If he lost the roll around his tights (or got something not so... tight) he would look a hell of a lot better. He looks like Bradshaw before the injury.

Spleen i saw that match too..
I was like: "Who betta than...ewww!"
Plus they are having him be a heel? what the hell..

Wrestling Fans
 

Hawk is dead.

Source

This sucks, he last run in WWE was a damn joke. He deserved a better run then what happen. Now it is too late.

Crap. And he finally quit drinking and taking drugs too. That bastage...

*cheers* to one half of the greatest TagTeams of all time.

Who betta than...ewww!
 

NO MERCY RESULTS (and comparasions)

1) Tajiri def. Rey Mysterio
Dang. Well, I'm 0 for 1 right now. Great way to start. And the two guys that got in the ring? New tag team. And from what I hear, they have never wrestled together before. hehehe... But I also hear that they are great technical wrestlers. So I'm looking foward to what they can do. (Jimmy Yang and Keiji Sakada)

2) Benoit def. ATrain.
Please, like we didn't see this one coming.
Score: 1 of 2. YES! FIFTY PERCENT!!!

3) Gowan def. V1 Hardy.
... Dammit. 1 for 3. Moving back down to 33.333333 percent.

4) Bashams def. APA
Remember, I didn't see it, so I have no idea what is actually going on. BUT. Shaniqua has "Permanent Swelling of the Chest" from Bradshaws clothesline from hell!!! HAHAHAHAHAH (boob job)
-also- what the hell... this match wasn't advertised on the website....
Still 1 for 3. because I didn't know about this match.

5) VinnieMac def. StepHHH
Linda threw in the towel...
2 for 4. Back at fifty percent correct

6) Angle def. Cena
Goddangit... I'm happy that Angle wins, but this is seriously making me look bad as a racehorse seer.
2 for 5. 40 percent.

7) BigShmo def. Eddie
WHY ME!?!??! WHY YOU!??!! WHY MUST WE SUFFER THE HELL THAT IS BIG SHOW WITH ANY GOLD!!??!!??
2 for 6. 33.33333333 percent... Oh well.

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DownwardSpiral, until next PPV. :)

Thank you for posting the results for me Spleen lol. Ok first off, i'll begin with APA vs Bashams. That match was made on Heat before the PPV, so we didnt predict on that, thus it didnt count lol. Now to address my incorrect guesses. Looks to me like the only one I was off on was Zach Gowen vs. Matt Hardy. This is a real bummer considering im a Mattitude Follower as well, Spleen lol. The rest of them I hd right, with the exception of the Basham/APA, because it was impromptu. So, Until the next PPV Spleen, lol.

After seeing Raw, I think the best part nxt to Goldberg getting slapped around a few times was when Orton got jumped by Jindrak and Lance Cade. That was funny. On a 2nd note is Batista now back as a part of Evolution?

Batista is back with Evolution now I'm pretty sure of it. But on a serious note, have any of you heard the dope rhymes of the Macho Man Randy Savage from his off that hook rap CD? That stuff is the bomb yo! I'm laying on the sarcasm pretty thick here, arent I? But has anyone else heard some of the crap he calls music yet? Lol, it's pathetic.

he was on BET the other day..
maan it was bad.. the crowd was dead..
the only pop he got from the kids was when he mentioned Hogan..
Poor Randy..

on a related note.. How are they making Maven part of evolution again?
Have him gain "respect" for Flair, and want to be more like him? that's kinds Randy Orton's job isnt it? Also if Orton is the "legend killer" wouldnt that set him up for the inevitable face turn against Flair when ol' swivelhips gets back?

Watch is Ganguro or Savage will kick you in the butt and wash your mouth out with soap! (That was a few lyrics from one of his songs, btw)

Randy actually had a rap record? your pulling my leg right? right? God I hope you are...

No he's indeed not pulling your leg. I heard that song where he makes fun of Hulk and threatens to "kick him in the butt and wash his mouth out with the soap." Oh dear God, i think that might have been the hardest i've laughed for awhile. :lol: Oh man . . . macho man is an idiot.

IF Maven joins Evolution, it will be when the eventual breakup happens. Just like the Nation of Domination, where Rocky out trumped Farooq, Orton will turn against HHH. Thus we'll have the New Blood (thanks Maveric for reminding me ;)) era starting over again. Only Orton, Maven, and probably Batista will be together, probably. Flair will probably be legend killed by Orton somewhere.

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Oh yeah, the Macho Man didn't even write his own songs. He had someone else write them. Read the liner notes if you can. (from a third party source) :D

Triple H taking a fall for anyone? Are you crazy?

holy crap a WWE thread...just read a bit of this thing and i have to post on my man, TAKA MICHINOKU. whatever happened to this guy? he is my fave light-heavyweight wrestler, at least back from when they actually had this division. do they still? i havent been keeping up lately....

...long live the Michinoku Driver!

They do but its on SD! and Tajiri is the champ unless I missed something.

I'm pretty sure you are joking, but just in case:

HHH would do it. It would make him go against what could be a fan favorite. Since HHH is, and forever will be, a heel - it just works in his favor in the long run. You can't be at your best with out a good feud. And where are you going to get one but from your own stable! Its a natural progression of leadership, rebellion, and a new order being established. All fun and good! Think of the PPV tie-ins!!

HHH VS. ORTON - PART 23!!!!

hehe, just read about this on a wrestling site (in my own words, mind you):

Hulk Hogan injured his knee while in Japan during a match. He was already commited to go to NWA:TNA for a match with Jeff Jarrett. But his injury will require surgery. So their SUPER HUGE MEGA PPV that was supposed to put TNA on the map will not continue as planned. All the other scheduled matches will continue, including the 2nd X-Division Ultimate X match.

hehe.... too bad for NWA.

Triple HHH needs to disappear for awhile. Sorry to say, but he's gotten SO boring in the last 12 months that it almost defies description. All of his charisma and menace are gone.

I was so glad to see him finally get beat. Its just such a shame it was by Goldberg....

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

Just curious here, but how did Brock beat 'Taker? Was it a clean cut victory or did he cheat somehow?

Are you talking about the PPV Biker Chain Match?

Everytime Taker went for the chain, something happened to screw him over.

1) The lights went out
2) The FBI bum-rushed him
3) VinnieMac slithered out from under the ring and pushed him off the ropes.

So yes, Brock did cheat, even though he may or may not have been directly a cause of it.

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Shaniqua got nice, decent boob implants. Good for her. She is actually looking cute now. :D

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It was good to see Shelton Benjamin in the ring again, even though it was against Scotty 2 Hottie and Rikishi (ass).

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For those wondering, yes, Spanky and Paul London have worked together before in a previous company. I'm looking forward to them working together as a tag team, as they are both accomplished and able high flyers.

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PAUL FREAKING HEYMAN!!! WOOOO!!!!

the only downside is that now we have two mean pooheads on both brands. Bitchoff and Heyman. Hopefully, StepHHH will come back and wiggle her way into co-general manager.

I was more hoping that Steph would jiggle her way back into the GM slot :D :p

Jiggle, wiggle. hmmm... how about both? :D

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Someone get the Lita book. Tell me if it is any good. I try to avoid all wrestler "autobiographies" like the plague.

TAKA is back in Japan and running his own fed. I would love to see him and Funaki back together. IMHO one of the best tag teams ever. Indeed!

On a side note: WWE Smackdown: Here Comes The Pain for PS2 comes out this week. Anyone a big fan of the Smackdown series on PS2? Anyone planning on picking this game up? It looks like a definite winner. I'm gonna hopefully get mine tomorrow morning :D

I'm definitely planning on getting that game. I already have WWE Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth and i enjoyed it. I've heard there were good reviews for the game so i'll probably get WWE Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain. I'm not sure how soon though.

I'll be buying Here Comes the Pain as soon as it hits stores here.

The new announcer, with Josh Mattews (the future of play-by-play), on Velocity is Bill DeMott.

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?? Why?!?!

Its not that I don't like the guy, I just don't like the guy. Sure, he is a pretty tough guy, and he can mostlikely kick my ass. Sure he's been in the business and knows the aches and pains that come along with it. Sure, he really hasn't done anything special in the WWE. I just don't see him as a good color commentator.

He's not that charasmatic.

He was probably the least liked trainer on Tough Enough, right down there with Chavo.

He's not Tazz.

He'll never be Tazz.

Oh well, we get to see him this Saturday. :(

I read on a forum somewhere today that RVD is gonna leave the WWE soon. Does anyone know anything about this? And I mean he's supposed to quit, not fired.

I haven't heard anything about Van Dam leaving WWE, it dosen't seem likely at the time anyway. Sounds like a bad rumor if you ask me.

He's in contract negotiations (finally) with the company. Although it may be a losing battle (for them), as RVD usually doesn't gloss anything over in his interviews. He says what he says, and we all get the impression that he would be happier elsewhere. But theres a lot to be said about more money.

RVD doesn't really like the WWF/E, however, there is no other major promotion, except for NWA-TNA, which isn't exactly the best alternative.

There is always Japan. Zero One, All Japan, heck just choose one, and he'll be loved to pieces.

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Anyone remember Matt Morgan? It took me a few minutes, but I finally remembered him from Tough Enough! Man, that guy was huge back then (built like linebacker) but now he's looking like Chuck Palumbo. I wish he'd shave that beard though...

So RVD's in contract negotiations, I hope everything works out for the best. If he leaves who else is a real risk taker in the WWE besides Shane and Christian?(Only every now and then.)

Speaking of huge how do you guys feel about Brock Lesnar's team for Survior Series? That seems like a tall number to tackle mainly b/c Brock doesn't lose since he's became a heel and Big Slow is well, just big...

Of course I'd love to see The Crippler and Kurt put on their submission finishers at the same time again ;)