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Kyp · 05-19-2003, 06:49 PM

For starters, I was accepting your opinion. I said it's a shame that you don't see it as others do because of how much others, such as myself, immensly enjoy the film.

I said the comment about summing up what the character had to say was stupid because it... well... was. Those characters had a lot to say, that could not be shaped up into one sentence, unless it was a very long sentence with a lot of coma's in it. What they had to say was an important part of the film, even if only bits and peices had a great deal to do with the actual plot.

Ganguro · 05-20-2003, 04:23 AM

psst.. dont feed the BoCo..
Seriously..You're all going to end up looking stupid to him..so why bother

He will fight until the bitter end!

BoCo · 05-20-2003, 04:43 AM

Yeah, no kidding, Ganguro. This whole thread was made just to antagonize spectre and make a few people have some laughs, and these nerdie nerd nerds took it all seriously and got their panties in a bunch over it. As brilliant as they all think they are, they lack the ability to see a joke even when it's made obvious to them by means of my wording in my first post and later when I actually stated that it was just a joke.

Chill out, people! It was only a movie, and although it indeed sucked 30,000 kinds of ass, it's not worth allowing yourselves to be aggitated over. Now go put in your favorite pair of Spock ears and watch some Star Trek.

Golux · 05-20-2003, 01:01 PM

I think people (very much like myself) find things they like and hold them very close. So, when you say that a film that I happen to love has no plot or is garbage, I get insulted. It's like me saying derogatory things about your girlfriend. Yea it might be pathetic that people get attached to films, but it is our likes and dislikes that define our personality. I appreciate that you didn't like the film, that's fine, but if you set out to push buttons, buttons are gonna get pushed. You obviously understand something of this attachment or you wouldn't have posted it to get us "nerdie nerds" to "[take] it all seriously and [get] their panties in a bunch over it."

I guess you could just try the age old, If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Yup... I'm the worlds largest dork... I'll be the first to admit it, and I get excited over things like the matrix. I'm just glad I got to be so entertained and blown away after I walked out of the theatre. I'm sorry you missed out on what I thought was one of the best movie experiences I've ever had. Too bad. I think... in the long run. I win here.

Kyp · 05-20-2003, 02:41 PM

Golux said that very well.

And BoCo, your sense of humor is not the same as everyone elses. You may have tried to mean it as a joke, but... I guess I just didn't see the punchline? Sorry, I don't see any funny parts in your post, other than you sounded like a dolt because of what you said about the girl you were with. I already said it once, and I'll say it again, doing what you did was just rude.

You knew when you posted that, that it would get the "nerdie nerds" going, and it did start a discussion between people that liked it and people that don't. Now you come in and insult them. Gee, you're such a great guy there, BoCo.

Excuse me, I gotta go unbunch my panties, I guess.

Golux · 05-20-2003, 07:14 PM

nerdie nerds unite!

MahlerIsGod · 05-20-2003, 10:24 PM

My review of the movie could be summed up as this: Could Carrie-Ann get any hotter? 'Nough said.

SecretMethod70 · 05-21-2003, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loki
erm, you do realise that this is the second part of the series, right? if we cut the "boring filler" scenes and the merovingian plays a large role in revolutions, everyones gonna go "WTF! GHEY, STUPID PLOT DOESNT EXPLAIN WHAT THE MEROVINGIAN IS". (btw, that was a strong aphrodisiac, i think, not an orgasm inciter).

You keep alluding to the simplicity of the plot, yet you never demonstrate anything more than a rudimentary understanding of it. Curious. It doesnt matter anyway, to each thier own.

Don't think I could have said it better (although, I didn't find any parts of the LotR movies to be boring either).

Anyway, I'm bored of hearing people complain about the "bad" plot in this movie. Frankly, it was excellent. If you want to be clued in as to parts of why, check out the following articles, they're the most comprehensive I've seen so far:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0509/p16s01-almo.html
http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm

As for the Architect and the Merovingian being verbose - it's pretty clearly intentional in my opinion. Both are arrogant and like to APPEAR intelligent and grandios.

Atomic Pinkie · 05-21-2003, 05:01 AM

grarr....i just missed the slow motion punchin with TRAILS BEHIND THEM! they had ONE AGENT do them...

"It's not like it's so complicated that you have to be a genius (which I am) to understand it; quite the contrary actually."

that made me chuckle BoCo

Nice self-affirmation, very sneaky yet so diluting!

Im not sure about the whole story the architect was telling. When you pan it out, they did say that the story pulls from a variety of beliefs. The idea that one continues their life repetitively to get it 'right' is not a new one. Regardless, they cut the movie at the EXACT point (hollywood is SO fucking good at that) where you need information. This is a good thing as well as a negative action. The good, we'll want to see the third. The bad, we'll have 9 MILLION people analyzing the movie over and over to various degrees and mental capacities, which, can get very boring, very quickly for some of us.

WinterScar · 05-24-2003, 03:23 PM

rogue49 and golux have both said what I feel about the whole like/dislike of The Matrix Reloaded. And I, too, win in the end.

buffto · 05-24-2003, 06:01 PM

You forgot one pivotal ruining point in the movie..
At the end of the movie, Neo can use his Matrix powers when not in the Matrix.

carl0z · 05-24-2003, 06:42 PM

I dunno guys....that cake looked really good......

SunScar09 · 05-24-2003, 06:47 PM

Kyp:

I'm with you on this one. People that watched this film and don't like, just doesn't understand it. Why do you think there's going to be a part three? It's all going to unfold in the end. The movie rocked, and there was a great plot. It went much deeper than the first and the third film will reveal and answer all the questions that we have. For those of you who think it movie stunk - oh well - don't go see the third one, because it probably won't impress you either. I think this is an excellent film... Rock on.

GakFace · 05-25-2003, 10:08 PM

BoCo: It is one thing to state that it wasn't of your taste, but you have gone on to show what your taste is. Many people, such as I, Love Jim Carrey movies. So to say Matrix was like that, only makes it look better in my mind. Not to mention, there was quite a LONG line for the new movie by Jim.

You seem to have shown that you only like fight scenes and nothing else. This is perfectly fine, we all do not have to have the same tastes, but you keep insisting that your view is the only view on what make a good movie. Me personally I play RPG's, and so that "long and boring" talk scene wasn't that. It was the writers, or GM's(for us geeky fellows) way of showing depth into the character. Sure he coulda just said "Fuck off", but that wasn't him. He wanted to taunt them, and then just try to generally lose them and see if they would walk off confused. Unfornately for him, their mind was set on what they came for and he did not lose them. And yes the cake was NOT an orgasm, it was a powerful aphrodesiac<sp>. That is why it showed a sudden sension "down there" I assumed that was the reason they were checking for minors, as I assumed she was going to masturbate right there. From a few Anime Videos, I picked up that he just made her extremely horny. And that also explains why he had lipstick on his dick later on...

Oh and I should note, I was listening to his character and how he liked to stall and lead them astray, not looking down his wife's shirt.

All the talking with the oracle? Again another character in a story. She had another way of thinking, and if they didn't show it, then to many other the character would be undeveloped, same for the guy who built the matrix. You kept pointint out how you did not like these talks and how basically they should get back to fighting. Then even on fight scenes you got bored. Well see, I am a martial artsist, so when they faught with weapons that a martial artist uses, I was completely zoned out watching it. It was a simple punch kick, swing, attack. Yeah he coulda just punched them to the moon, but then obviously you haven't paid attention to Neo's mentality when he fights the agents. He fights then with one arm tied behind he back, figuratively speaking of course. He fights making a mockery of them, only to piss them off more, that alone makes me laugh. Also you would note that he was stalling. If he kicked two guys to the moon instantly, I'm willing to bet at least one guy would have chased after the keymaster than to be killed... Thus by stalling their deaths, he was able to keep all of them honed in onto him. One thing I was noticing about that fight scene was simply how he faught with one sword. We all know he could faught with two, so why didn't he? Well I have found out, and even by watching others, that when fighting with two swords, the second slows you down a bit. and just a single sword can keep you focused better as you fight. Also notice all the weapons that were used. Neo also used Sai's.. Weapons that are the PERFECT weapon against swords, and since he could use them, he could stop all the blades. Ingenius I think, seeing how he could have chosen ANY weapon on the walls. He also used Bo Stick (at least thats what my school would call them), and they are used well in Hapkido, but also they are great for disarming your foe, as well as laying a smackdown with a blunt object

These are the little parts that I noticed that only enhanced it, and what made it even a better movie to me. You have showed that you just want a big gunfight or something(mind you this is what I have perceived about you, not saying this is set in stone, aka no offense). Now you see our two difference in what can make a movie really good or really bad. Seeing this, how can you say the movie is bad..... FOR EVERYONE. It sucked for you, I'm sorry for that, but it did NOT suck for the rest of us.

You say it was a joke, but i saw no hint of a Joke, Please show us where this Joke was hinted so we can smack ourselves in our head in disarray. Besides, a joke doesn't go on to tell everyone that what they think is stupid cause it really sucks.....

welp there my 2...4..... um.. 7 bucks

Conclamo Ludus · 05-25-2003, 10:24 PM

First, the movie gave me everything I wanted out of it.

Second, I thought the cake was an orgasm. I'm no gal, but from the shock and confusion on the girls face, I thought that he had produced a bit of code in the form of a cake that caused her to "get there". She seemed a little more than "just horny".

I like the silver bullet bit, and Monica Belucci MY GOD!

I particularly enjoyed the samurai takedown of the Cadillac by Morpheus.

The Score was great too, it sounded like Philip Glass there for a little bit.

GakFace · 05-25-2003, 10:31 PM

From a few hentai comics and video that I have seen, It wasn't an orgasm, but something that made her go to bathroom for some "Privacy"... although when the guy got there, she didn't mind any because she was so damn horny. Mind you when i say honry, I don't mean for it to be taken lightly, i mean like... Brink of Orgasm horny. Which would also explain the look on her face

Conclamo Ludus · 05-25-2003, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
From a few hentai comics and video that I have seen, It wasn't an orgasm, but something that made her go to bathroom for some "Privacy"... although when the guy got there, she didn't mind any because she was so damn horny. Mind you when i say honry, I don't mean for it to be taken lightly, i mean like... Brink of Orgasm horny. Which would also explain the look on her face

You could be right. My thoughts are mainly with the "explosion" in the netheregion.

Don't know much about Hentai, but the Wachowski's obviously borrow quite a bit from Japan! Not a surpirse.

05-19-2003, 06:49 PM	#41 (permalink)
Kyp Insane Location: Oregon	For starters, I was accepting your opinion. I said it's a shame that you don't see it as others do because of how much others, such as myself, immensly enjoy the film. I said the comment about summing up what the character had to say was stupid because it... well... was. Those characters had a lot to say, that could not be shaped up into one sentence, unless it was a very long sentence with a lot of coma's in it. What they had to say was an important part of the film, even if only bits and peices had a great deal to do with the actual plot. __________________ When life gives you lemons, sqeeze the juice into a squirt gun and shoot people in the eyes

05-20-2003, 04:43 AM	#43 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	Yeah, no kidding, Ganguro. This whole thread was made just to antagonize spectre and make a few people have some laughs, and these nerdie nerd nerds took it all seriously and got their panties in a bunch over it. As brilliant as they all think they are, they lack the ability to see a joke even when it's made obvious to them by means of my wording in my first post and later when I actually stated that it was just a joke. Chill out, people! It was only a movie, and although it indeed sucked 30,000 kinds of ass, it's not worth allowing yourselves to be aggitated over. Now go put in your favorite pair of Spock ears and watch some Star Trek. __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

05-20-2003, 02:41 PM	#45 (permalink)
Kyp Insane Location: Oregon	Golux said that very well. And BoCo, your sense of humor is not the same as everyone elses. You may have tried to mean it as a joke, but... I guess I just didn't see the punchline? Sorry, I don't see any funny parts in your post, other than you sounded like a dolt because of what you said about the girl you were with. I already said it once, and I'll say it again, doing what you did was just rude. You knew when you posted that, that it would get the "nerdie nerds" going, and it did start a discussion between people that liked it and people that don't. Now you come in and insult them. Gee, you're such a great guy there, BoCo. Excuse me, I gotta go unbunch my panties, I guess. __________________ When life gives you lemons, sqeeze the juice into a squirt gun and shoot people in the eyes

05-20-2003, 10:24 PM	#47 (permalink)
MahlerIsGod At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done Location: London/Elysium	My review of the movie could be summed up as this: Could Carrie-Ann get any hotter? 'Nough said. __________________ "But a work of art is a conscious human effort that has to do with communication. It is that or its nothing. When an accident is applauded as a work of art, when a cult grows up around the deliciousness of inadvertent beauty, we are in the presence of the greatest decadence the West has known in its history."

05-21-2003, 05:01 AM	#49 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	grarr....i just missed the slow motion punchin with TRAILS BEHIND THEM! they had ONE AGENT do them... "It's not like it's so complicated that you have to be a genius (which I am) to understand it; quite the contrary actually." that made me chuckle BoCo Nice self-affirmation, very sneaky yet so diluting! Im not sure about the whole story the architect was telling. When you pan it out, they did say that the story pulls from a variety of beliefs. The idea that one continues their life repetitively to get it 'right' is not a new one. Regardless, they cut the movie at the EXACT point (hollywood is SO fucking good at that) where you need information. This is a good thing as well as a negative action. The good, we'll want to see the third. The bad, we'll have 9 MILLION people analyzing the movie over and over to various degrees and mental capacities, which, can get very boring, very quickly for some of us. __________________ Where dem bitches at?

05-20-2003, 04:23 AM	#42 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	psst.. dont feed the BoCo.. Seriously..You're all going to end up looking stupid to him..so why bother He will fight until the bitter end!

05-20-2003, 01:01 PM	#44 (permalink)
Golux Tilted Location: This side of heaven.	I think people (very much like myself) find things they like and hold them very close. So, when you say that a film that I happen to love has no plot or is garbage, I get insulted. It's like me saying derogatory things about your girlfriend. Yea it might be pathetic that people get attached to films, but it is our likes and dislikes that define our personality. I appreciate that you didn't like the film, that's fine, but if you set out to push buttons, buttons are gonna get pushed. You obviously understand something of this attachment or you wouldn't have posted it to get us "nerdie nerds" to "[take] it all seriously and [get] their panties in a bunch over it." I guess you could just try the age old, If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all. Yup... I'm the worlds largest dork... I'll be the first to admit it, and I get excited over things like the matrix. I'm just glad I got to be so entertained and blown away after I walked out of the theatre. I'm sorry you missed out on what I thought was one of the best movie experiences I've ever had. Too bad. I think... in the long run. I win here.

05-20-2003, 07:14 PM	#46 (permalink)
Golux Tilted Location: This side of heaven.	nerdie nerds unite!

05-24-2003, 03:23 PM	#50 (permalink)
WinterScar Upright	rogue49 and golux have both said what I feel about the whole like/dislike of The Matrix Reloaded. And I, too, win in the end.

05-24-2003, 06:01 PM	#51 (permalink)
buffto Crazy Location: Missouri	You forgot one pivotal ruining point in the movie.. At the end of the movie, Neo can use his Matrix powers when not in the Matrix.

05-24-2003, 06:42 PM	#52 (permalink)
carl0z Upright Location: 3.2 mi from the middle of nowhere	I dunno guys....that cake looked really good...... __________________ wank-free since 30 mins ago. join the partnership for a wank-free tfp

05-24-2003, 06:47 PM	#53 (permalink)
SunScar09 Psycho	Kyp: I'm with you on this one. People that watched this film and don't like, just doesn't understand it. Why do you think there's going to be a part three? It's all going to unfold in the end. The movie rocked, and there was a great plot. It went much deeper than the first and the third film will reveal and answer all the questions that we have. For those of you who think it movie stunk - oh well - don't go see the third one, because it probably won't impress you either. I think this is an excellent film... Rock on.

05-25-2003, 10:08 PM	#54 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	BoCo: It is one thing to state that it wasn't of your taste, but you have gone on to show what your taste is. Many people, such as I, Love Jim Carrey movies. So to say Matrix was like that, only makes it look better in my mind. Not to mention, there was quite a LONG line for the new movie by Jim. You seem to have shown that you only like fight scenes and nothing else. This is perfectly fine, we all do not have to have the same tastes, but you keep insisting that your view is the only view on what make a good movie. Me personally I play RPG's, and so that "long and boring" talk scene wasn't that. It was the writers, or GM's(for us geeky fellows) way of showing depth into the character. Sure he coulda just said "Fuck off", but that wasn't him. He wanted to taunt them, and then just try to generally lose them and see if they would walk off confused. Unfornately for him, their mind was set on what they came for and he did not lose them. And yes the cake was NOT an orgasm, it was a powerful aphrodesiac<sp>. That is why it showed a sudden sension "down there" I assumed that was the reason they were checking for minors, as I assumed she was going to masturbate right there. From a few Anime Videos, I picked up that he just made her extremely horny. And that also explains why he had lipstick on his dick later on... Oh and I should note, I was listening to his character and how he liked to stall and lead them astray, not looking down his wife's shirt. All the talking with the oracle? Again another character in a story. She had another way of thinking, and if they didn't show it, then to many other the character would be undeveloped, same for the guy who built the matrix. You kept pointint out how you did not like these talks and how basically they should get back to fighting. Then even on fight scenes you got bored. Well see, I am a martial artsist, so when they faught with weapons that a martial artist uses, I was completely zoned out watching it. It was a simple punch kick, swing, attack. Yeah he coulda just punched them to the moon, but then obviously you haven't paid attention to Neo's mentality when he fights the agents. He fights then with one arm tied behind he back, figuratively speaking of course. He fights making a mockery of them, only to piss them off more, that alone makes me laugh. Also you would note that he was stalling. If he kicked two guys to the moon instantly, I'm willing to bet at least one guy would have chased after the keymaster than to be killed... Thus by stalling their deaths, he was able to keep all of them honed in onto him. One thing I was noticing about that fight scene was simply how he faught with one sword. We all know he could faught with two, so why didn't he? Well I have found out, and even by watching others, that when fighting with two swords, the second slows you down a bit. and just a single sword can keep you focused better as you fight. Also notice all the weapons that were used. Neo also used Sai's.. Weapons that are the PERFECT weapon against swords, and since he could use them, he could stop all the blades. Ingenius I think, seeing how he could have chosen ANY weapon on the walls. He also used Bo Stick (at least thats what my school would call them), and they are used well in Hapkido, but also they are great for disarming your foe, as well as laying a smackdown with a blunt object These are the little parts that I noticed that only enhanced it, and what made it even a better movie to me. You have showed that you just want a big gunfight or something(mind you this is what I have perceived about you, not saying this is set in stone, aka no offense). Now you see our two difference in what can make a movie really good or really bad. Seeing this, how can you say the movie is bad..... FOR EVERYONE. It sucked for you, I'm sorry for that, but it did NOT suck for the rest of us. You say it was a joke, but i saw no hint of a Joke, Please show us where this Joke was hinted so we can smack ourselves in our head in disarray. Besides, a joke doesn't go on to tell everyone that what they think is stupid cause it really sucks..... welp there my 2...4..... um.. 7 bucks __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

05-25-2003, 10:24 PM	#55 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	First, the movie gave me everything I wanted out of it. Second, I thought the cake was an orgasm. I'm no gal, but from the shock and confusion on the girls face, I thought that he had produced a bit of code in the form of a cake that caused her to "get there". She seemed a little more than "just horny". I like the silver bullet bit, and Monica Belucci MY GOD! I particularly enjoyed the samurai takedown of the Cadillac by Morpheus. The Score was great too, it sounded like Philip Glass there for a little bit. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

05-25-2003, 10:31 PM	#56 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	From a few hentai comics and video that I have seen, It wasn't an orgasm, but something that made her go to bathroom for some "Privacy"... although when the guy got there, she didn't mind any because she was so damn horny. Mind you when i say honry, I don't mean for it to be taken lightly, i mean like... Brink of Orgasm horny. Which would also explain the look on her face __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.