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Ramega 01-15-2005 02:00 PM

I get so irritated when shows aren't willing to kill off characters. I cheered when the hobbit died and when they killed off the slut, and I was PISSED when they revived them both. Seriously, they are tranded on an island and no one has died yet (except that pilot)?

This is my favorite show on TV (until Deadwood comes back in March). I think Locke rules, but Sawyer is probably my favorite. Kate is teh hott and somehow looks great after a month on the island. They must not have run out of razors yet.

Seething 01-16-2005 12:18 AM

Just heard this, and I thought I'd share. J.J. Abrams (the creator of the show) and Michael Keaton (Batman) are friends, so Keaton got a copy of the script for the pilot episode. Keaton liked the script, and was planned to play Jack. But...in that early version of the pilot, Jack died off in the first episode. Apparently Keaton liked it because the main character was killed off in the first episode. When it was changed so Jack lived, Keaton backed out.

I'm still loving the show. This last episode may not have been the best, but I did get my dose of "WTF". Not because of Boone and Shannon being lovers (I thought that was obvious enough from prev. episodes), not because of her dying, then it revealed as a dream, but because when Locke asked him how he felt after seeing her die, he said "Relieved." I'm sure I had a "Huh?" look on my face after he said that. Something that a poster said earlier in the thread looks to becoming more and more evident after each episode, that the survivors were "lost" in civilization and are only finding themselves now thanks to the island.

I know I'm gonna keep watching.

Xell101 01-16-2005 01:21 AM

This show is great, I've got no idea what is going on. I tried to make a post a few times but it kept getting convoluted and messy so I organized the main points of the unreadable messes.

1. Locke is ridiculously competant and the island restored his legs, Terrible Secret of Mystery Island... not so terrible?
2. The man who took Claire is presumably of the marooned group the French woman came with and his current evil alignment probably part of what convinced the French women that there is evil afoot. Also ridiculously competant?
3. French women is overtly 'off' and killed some of her cohorts for having been infected or gotten to by the island. Seemingly defensive to the point of paranoia with the Terrible Secret of Mystery Island.
4. Crazy guy is probably on the dark side of Mystery island. I'd say he is the dark side but it seems from the monster that the island itself is capable of manifesting itself and as such doesn't need to embody itself in people.
5. Locke, having had his legs restored by it, is on it's good side and probably is unwittingly on the path to doing a boat load of good. I'm also thinking that Locke will probably set everyone in the right direction to follow the goodly path and be relegated to the position of inconsequential burden doing so, as he'll probably rescue Claire and get mortally wounded/poisoned/regress to the wheelchair General. Doing that would kill the mystery allure of the show as it would get somewhat fortellable from there, so I'm geussing I'm completely wrong as there are oodles of misdirection in this great show.

Lockjaw 01-19-2005 06:11 PM

They said this episode was going to answer questions...it just raised more confusion!

Ok Walt is some kind of Child of the Corn and is making stuff manifest out of pictures or something?
I still think Locke is behind the creatures somehow. And exactly WHY is he making everyone in debt to him? Charlie,Boone, and now Michael.

Claire is back but she isn't preggers any more...the black rock...could that be the thing throwing the compass off?

And now it looks like they are going to show a rerun next week. AAAHHHHH!!!

Roark 01-20-2005 03:29 AM

You know as soon as I saw Walt looking at that Spanish comic book with the bear I was like you know all that stuff with Locke about thinking and making stuff happening (Charlie's guitar appearing, Locke walking again) I bet the kid's dreams or something are manifesting the bears and other creatures, then there was the deal with the bird and I know it was because of him. It got me thinking though what if the dog is really dead and Walt kinda made another one because he missed his so much? I wonder if he could make other pictures/thoughts appear? I think he's going to play a big part down the line much to the dismay of his father.

Locke and Boone though are a crazy combination that's for sure kinda freaky!

Oh well that's all my thoughts from the first run though i'm going to watch it again, next week's should be good

Daoust 01-20-2005 04:14 AM

Who says that Claire is not pregnant anymore? It looked to me as though she was. It was really hard to tell, though. A good ending though.

Averett 01-20-2005 06:15 AM

Okay, I had to open this page then scroll down really fast.

Guys, I missed the show last night :( My old roommate from college called me at 8:10 and we talked for about an hour. Ack!

So, does anyone know where I could possible *cough*download*cough* the eopisode? If you do, please PM me and let me know. Thanks!

mrklixx 01-20-2005 08:06 AM

Anybody know why in the freakin' world they would play a rerun next week after only two new episodes? Is there some major sporting/political/television event next Wednesday?

Averett 01-20-2005 08:51 AM

Thanks for the downloading help mrklixx and noodles! I'm sure it'll work out just fine :)

Averett 01-20-2005 06:04 PM

Awesome episode. So no previews for next week then?

Jesus Pimp 01-20-2005 07:05 PM

2 week hiatus! :(

boom29 01-20-2005 11:24 PM

ABC is going to start losing viewers if they keep this up, or at least frustrate the hell out of them. I'm sure that the people that recently started watching have already caught up one way or another. Two weeks if definately too long.

warrrreagl 01-21-2005 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by boom29
ABC is going to start losing viewers if they keep this up, or at least frustrate the hell out of them. I'm sure that the people that recently started watching have already caught up one way or another. Two weeks if definately too long.

Is it possible that ABC didn't anticipate the huge success of this show and didn't have enough episodes in the can?

Averett 01-21-2005 05:59 AM

Most shows this time of year have a few new episodes in January, maybe 1 or 2, then go with the repeats, then new shoes for February sweeps.

Will they lose viewers? Doubtful. You're still going to tune in cause you're hooked, like the rest of us :)

braisler 01-21-2005 06:17 AM

Yeah, I am enjoying most of the episodes pretty well, but I don't like to have so many breaks in between the progression. warrrreagl may be right that they just didn't anticipate the show being as well liked as it is and don't have enough episodes to fill out the season. Seems kind of fatalistic to me. To make a show, but not be confident that it will be great. Eh.

Daoust 01-21-2005 06:18 AM

You're right, as usual Averett.
Hey by the way I was looking for your "Classic episode" thread, but couldn't find it.

That Saved By The Bell Episode you mentioned is pure CLASSIC! Especially at the end when Jesse goes on that rage and she sings "I'm so excited! I'm so excited. I'm so....so...scared!"
Best. Line. Ever.

Anyways, back to LOST...

Boones sister is HOT.

Averett 01-21-2005 06:33 AM

Thanks, Daoust :) Now, for your reading pleasure... http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=69339

I'm pretty sure that the Lost folks made enough episodes to last the season. And I'd bet they knew it was going to be a hit. From what I understand, most television shows make enough for half a season, then wait to see if they'll be picked up. And most shows know pretty quickly if they will be picked up or not. I think most shows have 18-24 new episodes a season. We're on #14, so we've got 10 more to go.

Latch 01-21-2005 03:04 PM

Can you imagine having to wait months and months for the new season to start? No doubt this show will leave you on a giant cliffhanger.

I'm dreading it already.

noodles 01-22-2005 12:14 AM

OH COME ON
they must've known they were going off the air for a half month with a friggin cliffhanger like that

anyway, main complaint isn't really plot-wise. its with the CG (not to present any spoiler, people who've seen it should know what i'm saying).

warrrreagl 01-22-2005 07:39 PM

Okay, so I was busy writing music this morning and an episode of "Gilligan's Island" was playing in the background and it started creeping me out. I immediately and easily related some things to "Lost," so here's what I saw.

It was a color episode from season two where a crate of coconuts washed up and one of them was wrapped in a newspaper that accused one of the castaways of murdering some guy named Randolph Blake with a spear gun before they sailed away on the S.S. Minnow. What's so weird about it was the unbelievable connections running between 5 of the castaways and this one dead guy. I remember everytime I saw that episode before, I used to think, "Oh yeah right, like these seemingly unconnected, random guests on a cruise are all magically linked to the same man. Right." However, after becoming a fan of "Lost," I'm not so quick to dismiss....

According to the episode, Randolph Blake was from the same hometown as Maryann, and he forced her father into bankruptcy. She went to Hawaii to confront him before taking the cruise on the Minnow. Second, Ginger Grant briefly dated Randolph Blake, and he cheated on her. She confronted him about that just before she sailed on the Minnow. Next, Randolph Blake stole one of The Professor's scientific papers and published it as his own, costing The Professor several years of research down the tubes. He finally confronted Blake about the theft right before sailing on the Minnow. Lastly, Randolph Blake was an employee of Thurston Howell, and he'd been caught skimming money out of the register. Both Howells went to confront him about the theft the night before they sailed on the Minnow.

Does this not sound exactly like the kind of odd "coincidences" that drew all of our "Lost" castaways together on that fateful flight? They're all bound together somehow, and we're slowly being given the pieces.

Moskie 01-23-2005 06:07 AM

That's hilarous, War. Makes me think Mr. Blake might have been involved in the S.S. Minnow's fate... And the Skipper and Gilligan didn't have a grudge with him, so maybe they're his lackies, and were given the orders make his enemies dissappear?

Who knew Gilligan's Island could be so sinister?? :p

JStrider 01-25-2005 06:35 PM

so i just re-watched the episode where boone hallucinates...

locke put that stuff on his head... and we assume that made him halucinate... but jack halucinated and he never had locke mess with him like that... so maybe locke was just keepin boones head from getting infected...

radioguy 01-25-2005 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
so maybe locke was just keepin boones head from getting infected...

nah, that's too normal of an answer. there's nothing normal on that island, to me. the 2 week hiatus is gonna suck!

guthmund 01-25-2005 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
so i just re-watched the episode where boone hallucinates...

locke put that stuff on his head... and we assume that made him halucinate... but jack halucinated and he never had locke mess with him like that... so maybe locke was just keepin boones head from getting infected...

So did Sayid. I think that stuff on Boone's head was just what Locke told him it was, stuff to keep his wound from getting infected. I think's it's the island alone causing the hallucinations. Locke seemed genuinely shocked when Boone came out of the forest at him. I don't think he expected him to survive. Locke is certainly using what he knows of the island to his advantage, but I don't think he's behind anything. Locke, as much as I want to dislike the guy, has 'saved' too many people to make him just another bad guy although he seems to have connections to a lot of folks....Charlie, Boone and now Walt and his father. :hmm:

I've also come to the conclusion that Walt is much, much more important than we've been led to believe. Last's week episode only confirmed it.

JStrider 01-26-2005 01:53 PM

I agree with you completely guthmund... especially about the walt thing....heres some of what ive noticed...

-=when throwing the knife with locke, walt nails it perfectly after picturing it happening in his head

-=when reading the book about birds... one appears flying towards him only to be stopped by the glass window. as if he created it or at least made it come to him

-=walt and hurley are playing backgammon... walt gets the roll he wants EVERY time...

-=walt is reading that spanish comic book... his dad throws it in the fire and we see a big mad looking polar bear on the page its open too... then walt disappears and is attacked by a polar bear...

If he was making those things happen, is it possible he could have caused the plane wreck?

He's definently got some kind of special abilities. I'm sure there are other things that have happened in relation to walt that I haven't noticed yet.

mrklixx 01-26-2005 07:52 PM

One point though. If walt can "make things happen", I would think the first thing on his list would bring his mom back. If she shows up in a later episode, I get a gold star. :D

noodles 01-26-2005 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
I agree with you completely guthmund... especially about the walt thing....heres some of what ive noticed...

-=when throwing the knife with locke, walt nails it perfectly after picturing it happening in his head

-=when reading the book about birds... one appears flying towards him only to be stopped by the glass window. as if he created it or at least made it come to him

-=walt and hurley are playing backgammon... walt gets the roll he wants EVERY time...

-=walt is reading that spanish comic book... his dad throws it in the fire and we see a big mad looking polar bear on the page its open too... then walt disappears and is attacked by a polar bear...

If he was making those things happen, is it possible he could have caused the plane wreck?

He's definently got some kind of special abilities. I'm sure there are other things that have happened in relation to walt that I haven't noticed yet.

my thoughts are that the bird from earlier is a coincidence and that "secret" that locke told him way early on in the season was that the island made thoughts/wishes come true, to think of something and it may actually happen.

guthmund 01-27-2005 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
-=walt and hurley are playing backgammon... walt gets the roll he wants EVERY time...

If he was making those things happen, is it possible he could have caused the plane wreck?

He also tells him something along the lines of "I've always been lucky."

I don't think he caused the plane wreck (I hope it's something more insiduous than a pissed off 10 year old boy's whim), but I certainly think he's going to be an important part in them getting off the island.

Not to mention his dog, which I don't think is really his dog. Remember, how in one of the first episodes he's looking for the dog and can't find it. The next episode the dog shows up. Unhurt, clean and perfect? Everyone else looked like Hell warmed over, but Walt's dog.....well, you get the point.

Mrklixx: I don't think they'll be that obvious. Not that the island couldn't do it, but Walt wouldn't think it up. His mom is dead. Had been for a bit when his father came to get him. Walt was sure his mom was dead. The dog, however, nobody saw the body. Nobody was sure if the dog was dead. So, maybe, Walt imagined himself up a new doggero, no?

noodles: I think that bird was just the first noticible instance of Walt's "differentness." I was watching the show with a couple of friends and when that bird smacked the window, there was an OMFG moment when the guy next to me made the comment that the bird Walt was looking at was the same kind of bird that hit the window. I'd have to re-watch the episode to be certain, but I kind of got that impression as well. Especially when the step-father's gaze fell on the book, specifically the picture of the bird Walt was talking about.

warrrreagl 01-27-2005 06:18 AM

I'm not so sure the polar bear is not Walt's dog. If the dog returns this time with some knife wounds, then we'll know.

noodles 01-27-2005 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by guthmund
noodles: I think that bird was just the first noticible instance of Walt's "differentness." I was watching the show with a couple of friends and when that bird smacked the window, there was an OMFG moment when the guy next to me made the comment that the bird Walt was looking at was the same kind of bird that hit the window. I'd have to re-watch the episode to be certain, but I kind of got that impression as well. Especially when the step-father's gaze fell on the book, specifically the picture of the bird Walt was talking about.

oh i know about the bird thingey, yeah. his stepdad specifically said he was different, etc.

but that seems too easy for the writers of lost. i mean, come on, look at the stuff they're doing. i'm almost willing to put money on the fact that they're doing those motions to make it a red herring.

guthmund 01-27-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by noodles
oh i know about the bird thingey, yeah. his stepdad specifically said he was different, etc.

but that seems too easy for the writers of lost. i mean, come on, look at the stuff they're doing. i'm almost willing to put money on the fact that they're doing those motions to make it a red herring.

You know, you're probably right. If there's one thing I've figured out about this show is that I haven't figured out anything. :lol:

tooblekane 01-27-2005 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mrklixx
One point though. If walt can "make things happen", I would think the first thing on his list would bring his mom back. If she shows up in a later episode, I get a gold star. :D

i was sort of wondering if maybe he killed her in a way. maybe not on purpose, but after a fight or something. just the fact that her death happened in like a week struck me as intruiging, given the fact that walt was "different"

spongy 01-28-2005 03:22 PM

I heard that at the beginning of the season, the creative team had not decided what the monster in the forest was... just what it wasn't.

JStrider 01-28-2005 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spongy
I heard that at the beginning of the season, the creative team had not decided what the monster in the forest was... just what it wasn't.


im gonna be pissed if its a T-rex...

spongy 01-28-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
im gonna be pissed if its a T-rex...

I have heard that it is not a dinosaur. Right now, I am leaning towards something mechanical.. it seems to have metal like noises.. but they could just be weird foleys to mess with us.

I love how in the dark we are at this point of the season.. I think the more we know.. the better re-runs will be.

Daoust 02-02-2005 05:51 AM

So is it a rerun again tonight? Or are we back to the new shows???

warrrreagl 02-02-2005 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Daoust
So is it a rerun again tonight? Or are we back to the new shows???

It's a rerun, and then the President has a few things to say...

Averett 02-02-2005 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by warrrreagl
It's a rerun, and then the President has a few things to say...

Grr... Stupid president.

boom29 02-02-2005 07:14 PM

Damn you, LOST...get on with it! :mad:

Ella 02-03-2005 12:57 PM

'Lost' showed last night here in Oz for the first time. Pretty exciting stuff! I'm not going to read this thread 'cos I don't want to know what happens, but that Charlie guy is a bit suspicious.....

I'm already hooked!

Sleepyjack 02-04-2005 02:14 AM

Hmmm, like Ella, i just saw this last night, although i tried really hard to try to get into it... i didn't really enjoy this that much - plus it was hyped too death with promotion over here.

How many episodes have been on so far (in America)?

I am just wondering how long they could go on with it? Perhaps the mysterious creautre will transport them into space!

:p

Daoust 02-04-2005 04:03 AM

We even have to watch the S.O.T.U. here in Canuckistan too. Although I'm on the East coast and it didn't start till 10 pm. So I was on my way to bed. I can't wait to see what happens to the Claire. Should be good!

JStrider 02-07-2005 01:14 PM

there have been 14 episodes in the states... if you know where to look online they can be found online...

noodles 02-07-2005 07:18 PM

can find them online reaaaaaaaaaaally easily. already helped a few people from this thread find some lost eps. pm me if you want to find any TV show online, i'll find it for you and show you how to download it. :)

Latch 02-08-2005 10:55 PM

YEAH... new episode tomorrow! Finally!

JStrider 02-09-2005 06:02 PM

just finished the episode... who was that guy who died... i didnt recognize him...


and man im sure they opened up a huuuuuge can of worms by handing out the guns...

Fremen 02-09-2005 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
just finished the episode... who was that guy who died... i didnt recognize him...


and man im sure they opened up a huuuuuge can of worms by handing out the guns...

Dude! You mean you don't remember Scott and his vast contribution to the show!? :p
He was comparable to the original Star Trek's red-shirted crewmen, who were there mainly to be killed off. Usually without ever uttering a word. :D

Edit: I even got his name wrong. Jeez!

JStrider 02-09-2005 07:09 PM

hehe... thats what i figured...

Seething 02-09-2005 08:28 PM

"Holy shit, Jack kicks ass!" was the first thing that came to my mind. Aside from Jack kicking the crap out of Ethan, the episode was just alright. I saw most of the stuff coming from a mile away and they didn't really solidify the story any more. I did laugh when charlie threw up in the copier though.

mrklixx 02-09-2005 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Seething
I did laugh when charlie threw up in the copier though.

With the PX-3579 you get every single letter of the Alpha-Bits he had for breakfast in hi-res detail. :thumbsup:

guthmund 02-10-2005 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fremen
Dude! You mean you don't remember Scott and his vast contribution to the show!? :p
He was comparable to the original Star Trek's red-shirted crewmen, who were there mainly to be killed off. Usually without ever uttering a word. :D

Edit: I even got his name wrong. Jeez!

I was watching it with friends and when the poor fellow bought it all of us kind of looked at each other expecting some sort of revelation as to who this joker was.

It was nice safe episode that fell, tragically, into two big drama/soap opera cliches.

1- Kill off random person nobody ever heard of and act like they're important.
2- Someone gets amnesia.

I'm a big fan, but was severly disappointed in this episode. One, they managed to catch the bad guy. The same bad guy that previously seemed to be two steps ahead of everyone, fell into a trap because he didn't expect a trap. Yeah, Charilie and the gang are just going to leave ol' Claire out there in the jungle walking around, come on and get her no questions asked.

Of course, Ethan? had to die, but it was bit too neat that Charlie was the one to do it. Didn't see that one coming. :rolleyes:

This show has become a staple of my television viewing. I'd hate for it fall into the same boring, trite, predictable storylines that seems to run rampant on network television. :|

Oh well, there's always next week, no?

Daoust 02-10-2005 04:13 AM

I second a lot of what guthmund wrote. I hope against hope that this show doesn't start to 'settle'. It was a bit predictable, to be honest. But I still love it.

There was the neat sub plot with the asian couple. He's suspicious of her. Doesn't have great promise as an exciting awesome thread, but it's neat character development.

I never would have given a gun to Sawyer. That seemed a little fabricated, in such a way that it could come back to haunt them for giving Sawyer bullets. Hmmm, I wonder what next week will hold...

Lockjaw 02-10-2005 06:47 AM

Yeah the Sawyer thing really bothered me.

Jack knew what's her face knew how to use a gun and he could kind of trust her. Why wouldn't he just get her to come help out? Jack doesn't seem like the overprotective "Women folk stay at the ranch" type to me. SO that was a plot hole in my book.

Nancy 02-11-2005 02:45 AM

I've been waiting for the latest episode for weeks! What's going on over there?!?!? I thought it was aired once a week?

JStrider 02-11-2005 02:06 PM

they took a 2 week break... and showed a couple old episodes...

happyraul 02-12-2005 03:47 PM

Paper company in Slough :) - I love this show!

darens42 02-15-2005 07:09 PM

i think the title 'lost' only refers to us sorry saps who cling to the notion that any questions will ever be answered...

spongy 02-15-2005 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by darens42
i think the title 'lost' only refers to us sorry saps who cling to the notion that any questions will ever be answered...

I think the greater concern might be that we don't like the answers we get. I was hoping they would catch Ethan and we could find out more about what he wanted, or if he had any knowledge of the hatch if the forest, or whatnot, but they catch him ... then he gets murdered.. no answers.

I expect it to not be business as usual, at least where they reveal stuff.

Remember, this will almost certainly be a multi-season show, so they have to parse out info to get more episodes.

Nancy 02-16-2005 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JStrider
they took a 2 week break... and showed a couple old episodes...

But WHYYYYY?!

Averett 02-16-2005 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy
But WHYYYYY?!

Pretty much every show on American network TV does this. Why? Because the new seasons typically run from September to May. Most shows have around 20-24 shows. Sept. to May would be 36 weeks. So the networks will show 3-4 new shows in a row, go on a bit of a break, have more new shows, another break... November and February are "Sweeps", this is where you get your really good shows and stunt casting stuff.

Ah I'm going on and on. Also, during Christmas and such, most people won't be around to watch TV. Networks know this, so they don't bother putting on a new episode that nobody will watch. And if you have a new show every week, wheres the buzz talk? Where's the anticipation? When they have a two week layoff after a really good show, the networks know that will get people talking, and that's good for them. Might get new people to watch the show.

So that's a bit of why you have breaks in a typical TV show season.

Charlatan 02-16-2005 06:14 AM

This happened a few years back when the broadcasters increased the length of their "season" to 36 weeks but didn't increase the number of episodes they ordered from the studios...

It created a shortfall of episodes BUT allowed them to milk the season for more ad revenue.

Averett 02-16-2005 07:09 PM

FUCK! Fuck I hate ABC. I recorded Lost, stopped the tape at 9:01 cause I know they've been runing late. And I still missed the end!

Damnit.

Lockjaw 02-16-2005 09:33 PM

You didn't miss much. BUt in the future set your VCR to record 5-7 minutes late just to be on the safe side.

Averett 02-17-2005 03:57 AM

Did Sawyer tell Jack that he knew his father?

I figure not, cause he's an asshole...

mrklixx 02-17-2005 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Averett
Did Sawyer tell Jack that he knew his father?

I figure not, cause he's an asshole...

Nope, he's hoarding that info, just like he hoards everything else.

Grancey 02-17-2005 11:26 AM

Sawyer is undergoing some personal revelations as a result of his being "lost" on this island. (As are the other characters as well) Sawyer's revelations are much more interesting to me though.

Fremen 02-17-2005 01:15 PM

Spoiler: So was the guy Sawyer killed the real Sawyer, or did he make a mistake?
I'm afraid I didn't understand that part just before he died.

mrklixx 02-17-2005 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fremen
Spoiler: So was the guy Sawyer killed the real Sawyer, or did he make a mistake?
I'm afraid I didn't understand that part just before he died.

It seems that the shrimp guy was just some poor schmuck that owed the T2 guy money, and he invented the story so Sawyer (the one we know) would do his dirty work instead.

guthmund 02-17-2005 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fremen
Spoiler: So was the guy Sawyer killed the real Sawyer, or did he make a mistake?
I'm afraid I didn't understand that part just before he died.

Spoiler: I think he was duped into killing the guy. The shrimp guy owed money to the fellow that gave Sawyer the information on the real Sawyer.

At least, I think he was....

By the way, this weeks episode was pretty good. Of course, I'm a Sawyer fan. He may be an asshole, but he's my kind of asshole.

I don't think he withheld the information from Jack because he was hoarding information. I think he was still trying to put all the pieces together when the show ended. I also think that, while Sawyer may not agree and continue to piss Jack off, at least he has a better understanding of why Jack does what Jack does.

JStrider 02-17-2005 09:37 PM

pretty good episode... it was interesting to see more about sawyer...

Fremen 02-17-2005 11:27 PM

Thanks guys. :) Now I understand what the shrimp guy meant about "it coming back around" to Sawyer.

Psivage 02-23-2005 08:52 AM

Every one seems to be connected on that island. Hopefully they will explore that more.

Seething 02-23-2005 05:24 PM

What the fuck was Hurley doing on that Chinese TV show? When Jin came into the secretary's house, he passed by the tv and Hurley was on it. I assume that's going to be explained later...right?

Averett 02-23-2005 06:09 PM

Hurley is awesome. The Best. I totally missed him on the TV though. Damnit.

At the end of the show when the music stopped I was all What the Fuck? Then Hurley did the same.

Awesome.

That episode was incredible.

Booray 02-23-2005 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Seething
What the fuck was Hurley doing on that Chinese TV show? When Jin came into the secretary's house, he passed by the tv and Hurley was on it. I assume that's going to be explained later...right?

Pretty odd that Hurley would be on TV in Korea (with subtitles). It was quick, but it looked like he was climbing in a car while being stalked by news cameramen, kind of like how you see them do when someone is involved in some scandal and is chased to their cars by local news reporters.

radioguy 02-23-2005 06:18 PM

ya'll are way too observant. if something ever happens to me in public, i hope ya'll are around to describe who did what to me :)

the music thing hacked me off as well, i didn't know what to think. i got a big laugh out of that. good show.

Lockjaw 02-23-2005 07:49 PM

I was watching that with my sister and I noticed Hurley on TV as well. That's got to be explained some how. It'll probably be comical as they haven't developed Hurley's backstory yet and he's the only major character on the show that hasn't had their past explored yet. Can't wait for that one.

Now the boat fire. I knew Walt did it however I'm wondering "how" he did it. Did he torch it with some flames or did he imagine it and it went up via mental powers? And I feel so bad for Jin. I was thinking he was a giant a-hole but he's a man of purpose and dedication. I think I might have a new favorite now because he's truly alone and isolated on that island. He can't communicate with anybody really. His wife betrayed his trust. Poor bastard. But good episode and can't wait for the island war to pick up a bit.

Fremen 02-23-2005 10:20 PM

Great episode. :thumbsup:
Did you see when Hurley was leaning back on the beach and in the background you see Claire & Charlie reclining, as well?
When Hurley looks over at Claire's pregnant belly and then looked down at his own fat belly?
Well, at first I laughed, but then I started questioning if there were some hidden meaning in the look, or if it was just one of those funny little insignificant scenes peppered throughout the series?

What do you guys think? Just a scene for a chuckle, or one to make you go, "Hmmm."?

Grancey 02-23-2005 10:58 PM

I've learned in theatre that everything is in there for a reason. I see the same in "Lost." Every line, every scene, and every look has a significant meaning..... I wish that I had recorded all of the episodes so I could watch them again since I know so much more about the characters now. I also think there is something very significant about the golf course and playing golf. I've really been pondering that.

Latch 02-24-2005 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Booray
Pretty odd that Hurley would be on TV in Korea (with subtitles). It was quick, but it looked like he was climbing in a car while being stalked by news cameramen, kind of like how you see them do when someone is involved in some scandal and is chased to their cars by local news reporters.

haha I saw him there too and thought "WTF?"

He was still in Australia.. just a Korean channel/news program.

It did look like a today-tonight/a current affair (for the aussies) type program that was chasing him. I can't wait to learn his back-story.

Booray 02-24-2005 06:35 AM

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Averett 02-24-2005 06:41 AM

Thanks, Booray!

I cannot wait for the DVD. I'm hoping that they pump that baby out before Season 2 starts.

Hurley = Most awesome person on this show.

Daoust 02-24-2005 06:42 AM

I liked last nights episode as well. Very good. I didn't suspect Walt as the pyro, but I should have. I loved seeing Sun in that bathing suit. Humina!

Next weeks episode looks awesome. Can NOT wait.

Averett 02-24-2005 06:47 AM

I thought Walt all along. Poor kid, always been uprooted, and he's having a good time on the island.

Well, apart from that whole polar bear thing.

Bill O'Rights 02-24-2005 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Averett
At the end of the show when the music stopped I was all What the Fuck? Then Hurley did the same.

Awesome.

Awesome? The batteries finally died on his CD player...didn't they. That's all I got out of it.

Averett 02-24-2005 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Awesome? The batteries finally died on his CD player...didn't they. That's all I got out of it.

Yup. I just liked his reaction. "Damn" I think it was... It was just awesome cause I was at home and the music stopped, then he was all Damn and I was all I love you Hurley!

His lines are all said spot on. His comedic timing is brilliant.

Booray 02-24-2005 02:35 PM

I've read a little bit of spoiler info on Hurley's background on another message board (which also includes a translation of the Koren subtitles on the TV screen), but I'm hesitant to even post it with spoiler tags because it's too easy to just highlight it and read it and I think everything I've read will be revealed in next week's episode.

Averett 02-24-2005 02:41 PM

I've heard rumbles that Hurleys backstory is pretty awesome, but I don't want to know. It's up to you, Booray, if you want to post it with tags or not.

Seething 02-24-2005 03:06 PM

I thought Hurley said "Son of a bitch." when the batteries died. I thought it was hilarious. The way he said it was perfect.

Averett 02-24-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Seething
I thought Hurley said "Son of a bitch." when the batteries died. I thought it was hilarious. The way he said it was perfect.

It might have been that. Whatever it was, like you said, he said it perfect.

JStrider 02-24-2005 04:23 PM

yah good ep last night...

i missed hurley being on the tv in the background... but im gonna be rewatching the episode with a buddy who missed it so i'll have to look again...

and at the end when hurley was listening to the music i turned to my friend and asked her how the hell his batteries could still be going... and bam the music stopped... pretty funny...

Roark 02-26-2005 04:40 AM

This is one of those TV show's i'll actually by the DVD of when it comes out.. next weeks episode looks incredible.

crossova 02-28-2005 01:14 PM

i thought the music was just the show's music as it closed out. this was one of the few episodes where it ended w/o suspense.

Moskie 03-01-2005 04:50 PM

I just got around to watching the last two episodes, and they were pretty damn great. Especially last week's episode.

Pretty much all the points I wanted to bring up have been said, but I did have one question. Was the scene where Jin is cleaning the blood off his hands in the bathroom taken from the earlier episode of Sun's backstory? Cause I was getting some mad Deja Vu there.

Seething 03-01-2005 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Moskie
I just got around to watching the last two episodes, and they were pretty damn great. Especially last week's episode.

Pretty much all the points I wanted to bring up have been said, but I did have one question. Was the scene where Jin is cleaning the blood off his hands in the bathroom taken from the earlier episode of Sun's backstory? Cause I was getting some mad Deja Vu there.

Yeah, when they showed Sun's backstory there was that scene, and it was meant to show how he had become distant and his work was more than just running a car factory. It was one of those scenes that made you go, "oh yeah, I can see why see wants to leave him."

But...when shown from his perspective, it shows him in a more sympathetic light. Making you go, "This guy isn't bad at all."

Man, I love this show.

Gilda 03-02-2005 09:10 AM

Here's how I watched "In Translation"

Beginning: Sun in tiny blue bikini.

Middle: blah blah Jin is an enforcer, Hurley on Korean tv, raft burns, blah blah blah.

End: Sun in tiny blue bikini.

My thoery on Hurley is that he's a master Starcraft player and won some big tournament. Starcraft, at least a few years ago, used to be a national obsession in South Korea. Hurley has said he's known as a warrior in some places, which would fit here.

Did anybody else understand the "Deliver him the message that I am not pleased" to mean "Give him a beating?" Clearly that was what was meant, and the guy who got beaten expected something similar, but I was with Jin--it seemed to me to mean deliver a verbal warning.

Lockjaw 03-02-2005 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilda
Here's how I watched "In Translation"

Beginning: Sun in tiny blue bikini.

Middle: blah blah Jin is an enforcer, Hurley on Korean tv, raft burns, blah blah blah.

End: Sun in tiny blue bikini.

My thoery on Hurley is that he's a master Starcraft player and won some big tournament. Starcraft, at least a few years ago, used to be a national obsession in South Korea. Hurley has said he's known as a warrior in some places, which would fit here.

Did anybody else understand the "Deliver him the message that I am not pleased" to mean "Give him a beating?" Clearly that was what was meant, and the guy who got beaten expected something similar, but I was with Jin--it seemed to me to mean deliver a verbal warning.

Well that's explained by what I thought was implied that Jin was either naive or just was nice and didn't want to pummel a dude over a business deal. Considering it looks like he comes from humble folks(dad's a fisherman) I'd bet it's more being naive. I mean notice how taken a back he was when the guy started profusely thanking him.

spongy 03-02-2005 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crossova
i thought the music was just the show's music as it closed out. this was one of the few episodes where it ended w/o suspense.

I take that to be but the calm before the storm, so we can catch our collective breath and get blown away by what immediately follows.

I hope that's the case.

TexanAvenger 03-02-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Averett
Hurley is awesome. The Best. I totally missed him on the TV though. Damnit.

At the end of the show when the music stopped I was all What the Fuck? Then Hurley did the same.

Awesome.

That episode was incredible.


I was sitting there, watching him listen to it and went, "C'mon, his batteries've gotta give out sometime soon. They've been there long enough..." And as I finished the thought, the music cut out. Between the writing and my call I was laughing for a full 5 minutes after.

And I caught Hurley in the background too, tried pointing it out to my friend (by which time he was gone), and got accused of just looking for things to be weird now. Thanks for making it clear that I'm not losing my mind to Lost.

At least, not yet...

Gilda 03-02-2005 03:42 PM

LockJaw: That's kinda what I was thinking, too, Jin didn't understand that he was supposed to strong arm the guy because he was at the point just a decent, hard working guy. What I was asking was whether anyone else picked up on the real meaning before Sun's dad chewed out Jin. I was completely snowed.

It's getting close to the end of season one, and I'm getting nervous. Now that the show's been picked up for season two, I hope they aren't going to alter the show to drag out the mysteries. They've done a fantastic job so far of interweaving the various stories such that new revelations are constantly shedding light on old assumptions, but I get the feeling that this is because the show was concieved as a single season whole unit. If so, I'd much rather they didn't mess with the intended ending just to milk some more time out of the show. One great season with a top-notch ending would be better than a second mediocre season.

And I love Hurley also.


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