i guess those things are real and not just in the movies! weird show tonight. i don't quite know what to make of mr. locke.

Another great show tonight. Very interesting and revealing.
I still want to know how Locke got all those knives to Australia, given their strict weapons policies.

I liked the 'miracle' part of his story.

I'm still frustrated they haven't organized themselves into shelter builders, food providers and wood gatherers. (even though they managed it for the funeral)

Tonights episode was the best so far. I love John Lockes secret. And has anyone noticed his name being "John Locke" Like the philosopher? I wonder if there's any connection.

I agree Fremen, when are they going to finally start to attend to practical, everyday needs type things?! It's been 4 days and no one has thought of anything typical as far a survival goes. Tonight Hurley had to say "Dude, there is no food". Only in tonights episode when the wild boars showed up did they think to start looking for sustinance. Hello, who in their right mind (or 48 minds for that matter) doesn't think first and foremost about securing food when you're stranded on an island?

I realize the writers have all this fodder for storylines with so many people on the island, but they're skipping over the most basic needs/issues that the castaway's would have in their situation. O'kay, they have polar bears and tree shaking monsters to worry about, but so far, the encounters with those have only occured while people have ventured inland and not with anyone who's on the beach, which is the majority of the people. At first I was worried they'd turn the show silly with the "monster/s" and not pay enough attention to the characters. Now it seems they're paying good enough attention to the characters but are ignoring all the practicalities that they should be dealing with.

I still love this show and will stay with it to the end, I'm just a bit disappointed that it's not dealing realistically with the fact that these people are stranded on an island. They're not at a Club Med. The entire premise of the movie "Castaway" was Tom Hanks' battle with nature and struggling to survive. I hope soon they have at least a single episode that isin't about one of the characters, but rather, deals with obtaining food and securing shelter for everyone.

Oh, so now we know that Locke had some kind of miracle happen to him and that he's the only one who's actually seen the monster/s. He was also only about 15 ft. from the creature and wasn't killed or eaten by it for some reason and didn't tell anyone about it. Also that he was some kind of obsessive phone-sex freak/stalker to Helen. So, last episode they led us to believe he was a good guy with the Vincent/Walt thing and tonight they make him out to be someone you wouldn't want to associate with....weird.

And, Charlie's now out of his dope, should be interesting to see how his character behaves once he starts to detox. Damn, have to wait a week for the next installment!

Ali

Spoiler: I got the feeling that Locke became depressed after losing the use of his legs, and that Helen was a conselour for a suicidal helpline. Locke seemed like Milton from Office Space before the crash, but now from some miracle he can walk again, and he's got a new backbone. I'm not sure why he wasn't eaten or killed by the monster, but that's assuming it even is a monster/creature. I'm sure that'll get explained in time.

Great show. I hope ABC is smart and at least lets this play out for the rest of the season.

In the flashback Helen mentions she would have to charge for another session if he talked longer.
I imagine suicide hotlines don't do that as a rule. ;)

Yup :D

I loved tonights episode. I like how they haven't focused on the survival aspects, they all are thinking that rescue people find them. But within the next weeks (like tonight) we'll see them hunting for more food and such.

I liked Locke's backstory. I didn't see the paralyzed thing coming at all. In the beginning I did wonder what the deal was with the focus of his foot wiggling. Guess we know now. Much more has tied in now too. When it first rained, Locke just stood in the rain, arms outstretched. The whole telling of Walt that a miracle happened - yeah, I'd say so!

I'm not sure that Locke really did see the monster. He sort of blacked out when the boar came at Michael, so he could have blacked out again when the monster came at him.

I love how this show is playing out. What's up with the ghostes that Jack was seeing? And Rose saying her husband is alive, and mentioned how other survivors could be thinking they're the only ones. (the tail section of the plane) Charlie is going to be goin crazy the next few episodes. I can't imagine detox from heroin is much fun!

Love love love this show!

The monster didn't attack him; it approached him quite slowly, in fact. We had a camera from the monster's point of view, with the head about 10 feet off the ground. I'm not sure, but I think that Locke started to smile as that scene ended.

And who killed the boar, Locke or the monster?

I don't think this counts for spoiler tags. Seething was just taking a guess at what might have happened. And that's all the fun of a show such as this.

In my view, a spoiler would be something from an interview with a writer/castmember, or a leaked script, or something from the "previews of next week's show".

Yeah that wasn't made clear at all.

My larger fears about this show:

a. I want it to wrap up at the end of the season. I don't want it to stretch out over multiple seasons.

b. Questions are almost always more interesting than answers. I don't want the show to let me down in the end.

c. 'a' and 'b' contradict each other; good luck to the writers!

And hope to god it doesn't get cancelled before some kind of resolution. (i.e. John Doe) I mean I know it's pretty popular right now, but I wouldn't put it past network execs to do something stupid.

I had thought Locke was going to be the key to the whole show, that knowing more about him would solve some sort of mystery. But, now that we know his backstory, that's seeming unlikely.

I still think I would be exploring that island looking for shelter and/or the source of that mysterious transmission. Sayid was correct when he said there's a major power source keeping that transmission running, so his homemade triangulation equipment was supposed to help out. But, I can't imagine an assumedly uninhabited island could be so big that you couldn't walk around the perimeter in a couple of days.

Semi-related side note regarding TPS reports: I think that's probably just some writer giving a nod to Office Space. If you pay attention, Office Space references come up in a lot of TV shows. I was watching the season premiere of This Old House a season or two ago, and they were going to rebuild a home that had been damaged in a fire. In one scene when they were walking through the remains of the house a bright red (and obviously unburnt) stapler was placed on top of a charred desk.

just remembered, when they were reading the names of the dead, they mentioned my hometown!!! i've never heard it on tv before. it was pretty cool.

I think the "TPS reports" were a nod to "Office Space", too. In the office scenes, Locke is borderline Milton!

Speculative thought about Hurley "Dude, there is no food":
Spoiler: If Hurley survives much past the second week on the island, will (was) the actor be made to go on a binge-diet? It would be, in my opinion, painfully obvious if the actor (Jorge Garcia) remains as hefty as he starts off as when there's little food... Or will they find a rich source of fattening food? (Polar bear blubber, anyone?)

Was wondering about that too, micah.
I hope he sticks with the show.
I also hope he's able to lose the weight for himself, too, 'cause I like him a lot as an actor, and I'd like to see him in other things.
He was pretty funny on 'Becker'.

Speculation on "Lost" interpretation: I see a clear metaphor in the title of the show and the survivor's lives. They all seem to be 'lost' in some way or another, not just physically but spiritually and emotionally as well. We can see this clearly from the flashbacks, e.g., Locke, with his paralysis and sudden "cure"; the man and his son who have lost their wife/mother; Kate, whose life really has a lot of mystery to it ; Charlie, with the drugs. Jack, the Korean couple, the pregnant girl, the large guy, Sayid, the woman on the beach.....all of these people seem to be "lost".

then how could the 16.5 million viewers be satisfied? I don't think that JJ Abrams would have made a show that was to span just one season. The setup is in place to be on the island for many seasons, that was the first thing that I was looking for in the opening 2 shows (i didn't watch the pilot, but the 2 hour rebroadcast.)

Grancey, you can probably take that out of your spoiler. That's a good assesment of things going on I think :)

I wonder who the next backstory will be. I'm really looking forward to the Korean couple and Clair (pregnant woman)

I want Hurley's backstory.

Great, I can't read any of this until I clear out my Tivo. I'm three episodes behind, I think. So thanks for nothing, and I mean that in the best sense. I'll be back.

she reminds me of kate beckinsale. even her name is kate.

Well that was another excellent episode!

When Jack found the plane wreckage and his dad's coffin, was the body in there? It was so dark I really couldn't tell. It looked like the body wasn't there.

Next weeks show looks insane..

Spoiler: Locke is the only guy who feels positive about the island. He's the only guy to have seen the beast and not gotten killed by it. I'm thinking there is going to be a theme based around "You were lost (lacking direction or 'traction' in life) when found (society), but are found (happy) when lost (clear of society)." That's how it is playing out in my head. Also, as for Locke. I think he is the key to setting off the story, that when his prime function is fulfilled it will be like turning on a another layer to the story. I'm thinking that it is the entire point of his character, for now anyway, as his previous self seems like a vamped up Milton waiting to haul ass which is inherently funny and seems like a joke origin made even funnier by the irony of having a lame background for a pivotal/bad ass island goer.

Spoiler: Nope, hence the energetic bashing.

Xell, you don't have to use spoilers for that :) I did enjoy Jack bashing the hell out of the casket though!

I was hoping to watch it last night, but didn't have time, so maybe tonight I'll watch it off the Tivo.

I've still got Charlie's tattoo rambling around in my head. That was significant.

"living is easy with eyes closed"

Yup, that was indeed good stuff.... I wonder if that's an actual tattoo or if it's for the character?

What happen at the last few minutes, my VCR didn't record it. It got as far as jack (?) telling that girl that his father die. Did he tell her that the coffin was empty?

and the next line o the song is Misunderstanding all you see...

Hmmm - -maybe the writers have a sense of humor? :D

gotta start watching this show -- it's just on too durned early

Can someone help me?
My electricity cut off in the scene with Jack and his mother, and when it came back on Jack was hanging off the cliff.
What happened in-between?
Thanks for any help. :)

It was reveal that Jack father was dead, and that jack saw him in the jungle and went chasing after him and trip and roll down a hill and off a clif, he grabbed onto a root of a tree. I think that was it,not sure if they showed anything back at camp.

I'm loving this show more and more. :)

It's got a nice pace, I have no complaints about the acting and the story is just too good.

The scene where Jack was inching forward to touch the "ghost" and it turned out to be his father....fantastic. :D It gave me chills.

I can't wait to see where this is headed. Strange things in the jungle, polar bears, Locke walking again and Jack's dead father walks again.

Thanks for the explanation, L.A. :) Appreciate it.

It doesn't sound like I missed too much.

I hope Jack's father's body is missing and not come back to life.
I don't really want a supernatural storyline.

it looks like we are beyond that now...

Lockke's miracle, saying the place is 'magical'...

Jack's (maybe ghost) dad leading him to a source of fresh water...

i wonder what other 'miracles' might be revealed?

I'm feeling that a 'miracle' will involve the baby. just a thought - will be interesting to learn her story

I've got the same problem. TiVO stopped recording it too soon. I got as far as Kief did. Jack has just told Kate that his father died and.......

then what? Anybody? Help?

I love that its all outdoors. It's like a scripted Suvivor meets Predator. The characters do have some strength. I'll give it that. Where I start to tune out is when it gets all supernatural, as some of you have expressed. For me right now it's teetering on the edge of being cheesy and larger than life. I also wonder as to the longevity of the show. I'm sure all these opinons have been expressed. Well thats my $0.02

JJ Abrams did an Interview on Fresh Air where he talked about how difficult it was to do so much filming outside. Kinda of an interesting interview, especially when he talks about Alias.

Add me to the list :(

Did anyone catch the last 10 or 15 seconds?

It's stupid ABC's fault. The show ran 61ish minutes instead of 60.

I don't remember what happened at the end. My memory is pretty crappy when it comes to things like that. I'd suggest setting your VCR/TiVo to record the shows before and after Lost. I usually set my VCR for a minute or two before and after the show ;)

i missed the begginning of the last episode...which lady drowned?

i think Locke is just happy his legs are working again...he will be around for a long time because w/o they wouldnt know how to hunt.

i want to see what the beast is. i swear its a dinosaur. its gotta be.

i dont think there was a body inside of the coffin.

okay...

here's the last thing that he says.
Spoiler: "Yeah, I'm sorry too."

Tivo caught the rebroadcast on Saturday night...

The woman who drowned wasn't really a character on the show. I think they called her Joann or Joanna. Could be wrong. She was one of those background folks you see wandering around.


If anyone is interested in reading recaps, head over to www.televisionwithoutpity.com and check them out. They're outstanding :thumbsup: Humor, snark and good writing!

Let me see, at the beginning it showed Jack in a flashback as a little boy after he had gotten beaten up by bullies, trying to help out his friend, and coming home to hear his father tell him he didn't have what it takes to make the coldblooded life decisions needed to make it to the top. Or something like that. (someone correct my mistakes, please)
Anyway, he comes back to the present and tries to rescue the drowning woman, who they've never shown before, but he wasn't successful.

In the last part, after he found the water, his father's empty coffin, and after smashing it to pieces, he goes back to the beach to find Charlie pushing around Boone, saying he took the water bottles, which he admitted doing.
Jack makes a speech saying they all need to work together as a group, or they will end up dying alone.
He tells them he found water and they need to divide into work groups to get it, food and fuel.
And I don't believe he even mentioned the coffin, let alone it was empty.
He did say he was in Australia because his dad had died, though.

That's all I remember. I taped over the episode with a Dolly Parton concert. :D

Edit: What they said. :thumbsup:

i read on the abc website, i think, that this week's episode will also run 61 minutes. so set your vcr's accordingly. if i find the link, i'll post.

I'm drawn in by this show but it's so random ass it's annoying. The dinosaur/ghost/miracle survivor thing just might become a bit too much eventually.
It's like Jurassic Park meets Ghost meets Fantasy Island meets Cast Away.

I think it'll resolve into one thing or another, eventually. The fun is figuring out which one it'll be.

I didn't really like this last episode, but I'm still watching. "Dead dad's ghost" was a bit obvious.

well, fuck that will suck. I record C.S.I NewYork and it is on after Lost. But of course I'm about given up on it. Not as good as CSI and Miami

That's odd. In my market, there's an hour between Lost and CSI:NY.

Another good episode last night. Poor Sun.... I was sitting in my apartment during that last airport scene saying "Just leave! Go! Run!!" I wonder what the deal she made with Michael was....

Hopefully for a shameless, gratuitous sexual encounter...

Speaking of such, when are the two main characters going to bump uglies?

That whole scene with the bees nest was taped purely to show some skin. I didn't mind, but it was fairly blatant. I thought Dominic Monaghan's line was good. The girl said she took her shirt off because it was full of bees, and he said "more like C's actually.

A good episode.

This whole show is reminding me more and more of "Lord Of The Flies" though.

I also liked how Charlie greeted Jack and Kate

"Are you two through verbally couplating?"

Lauged so hard at that!

Yeah... the directors are doing all the cheesy lead-romantic-couple stuff, but at least they have the sense to make fun of it.

Another good episode. I actually like the fact that they've laid off the "mysterious creature in the forest" angle a bit. Still, it makes you wonder....

i keep anxiously awaiting each episode, but i still can't decide if i like the mystical aspect or hate it. on the one hand, it's different, it's original, and it keeps you guessing. on the other, all the questions are getting on my nerves, and i'm getting the feeling there won't be any solid answers until the show is about to go off the air.

Yeah but if you had all the answers, would you still watch?

I've heard rumors that Jack might be gay because he didn't make a move on Kate. :rolleyes:


Does this splitting of the survivors bother anyone else?
Why not leave a few on the beach to tend to fires and watch for ships and planes, while the bulk go to the cave?
Then they could rotate the people to the beach to relieve the guards.

i don't expect nor want all the answers, especially not this early. it's just starting to irritate me how each mystery is piled on, or intertwined with, another one.

One of my major fears with the "thing in the forest" is that once we find out what it is, it will just make the show cheesy. I'm thinking of a certain recent Stephen King movie, where there was this "thing in the forest", and then it turned out to be a stupid looking-fake alien or something... and it just ruined the rest of the movie.

Anyways, here's hoping that doesn't happen here...

no - that is what makes it fun - i like guessing what's about to happen...

there are so many different story lines & twists so far I haven't run out of things to guess about

as long as it doesn't turn out to be a retarded man-alien that says "ooby-ooby doo", i think we'll be okay.

Is anyone else making a Lord of the Flies connection?

I've never seen Lord of the Flies. So, nope!

There are definitley ties to Lord of The Flies. A main character in each was named jack, a boar/monster in the forest, a bunch of people on a deserted island, the main group dividing in two.... These are all probably nods to Lord of the Flies, but they are also things that don't seem too out of place in context of this story, so I wonder how much of it is an intentional nod to Lord of the Flies. Anybody else with more insight on the matter? Maybe I should reread the book, but I have a stack of other reading material to get to first.

Man, where do you start with Charlie's metaphors in last night's episode? Charlie emerging from the hole in the ground just like the moth; Charlie announcing "I am a rock God" immediately prior to the rocks falling on him and Jack; the wild, squealing fans chasing rock-God Charlie juxtaposed with the wild, squealing boar chasing drug-addicted Charlie...

I'm starting to really follow Grancey's idea that the notion of the characters being "lost" actually has very little to do with the island.

Huh, I didn't even really catch onto the metaphors. Then again, I usually don't.

Who knocked Sayid upside the head? I think I was spoiled on another site about it...

Spoiler (?): Spoiler: The woman on the SOS tape is still alive. And CRAZY. And she knocked Sayid upside the head

And all the moths taking flight after Charlie tossed his drugs into the fire?

damn.. last night's was good...

And who did knock Sayid upside the head.. I though it was the same person mentioned in Averetts spoiler.. and that'd be pretty cool.. I can't think of who else it would be.

you aren't the only one. That was the first thing that popped into my head when people started choosing sides. Pretty foolish as others have mentioned as a 12 year old could come up with a workable solution to the "We must stay on the beach to watch the fires!" problem. I hope they don't go down that route and are just tossing that up there as a little red herring.

I'll say this for the show...at least it's not reality television and likely signals the death of that genre. Hurray!

Sayid looks to be doing just fine in the previews for next week...

ok so the kid reads a comic book with a polar bear in it, and suddenly there's a polar bear. locke wants to walk, he walks. charlie wants his guitar, he gets his guitar. michael says he'll look for the dog when it stops raining, it stops raining. charlie yells "i'm a bloody rock god!" and rocks fall down around him. this island seems to be like the Sphere from Michael Chrichton's great book / crappy movie, manifesting people's thoughts and wishes.

interesting idea tooblekane. Never saw it like that. I really liked the first couple episodes, but i don't think it is as good now. I'll keep watching cause i want to find out whats going on. Of course last time I did that i only got more confused, loved that Carnivale on HBO.

don't forget preggo girl & suddenly feeling her baby... & Sun now having a loving / caring husband...

is there something with kate always needing to move on & waiting to stay put on the beach?

Really good episode on Wed. The moth imagery was pretty obvious. I liked the coccoon story though. Pretty neat.

I am not buying the transmitter bit, however. It's a bit much.

And does anyone else think that Japanese girl is hot?

I wasn't going to read your spoiler, but it ended up in the quote :(. Anyway, it was conjecture that I've seen elsewhere anyway. I don't believe it.

I think it is pretty clear that Sawyer clubbed Sayid. He knew exactly where Sayid would be at 5:00, and it would have been simple enough for him to connect the fuse to the end of a cigarette. Light the cigarette, and X minutes later (I have no idea how long a cigarette burns), the fuse is lit and the firework goes off. This would explain (a) why they showed Sayid and Shannon lighting their fuses but didn't show Sawyer, and (b) why Sawyer's firework didn't go off right away (the fuse estimate was a little off).

The only question is, what the fuck is wrong with Sawyer?

Oh, and has anyone been to The First Unofficial Drive Shaft Fansite? :D It looks like it was done by the show, as there are some pictures that clearly couldn't have been photoshopped.

Actually she's Korean (character-wise and real life)

regarding my rebuke...

(In the voice of the starfish from "Finding Nemo)

I am ashamed.

ugh. great show concept, great setting, scenery, etc. i really like it and its the first show since 24 that i bothered to follow for any length.

that being said, whoever writes for this and alias should be shot for trying to pander to bloody morons. every episode within the first five minutes we have someone saying something to the effect that "were marooned on an island! we might never survive!" or another saying "the rescue team will be here any day now". these two characters subsequently debate about those topics, and so it repeats. that was one of my biggest peeves with last season of alias, the constant and obvious reinforcement of the shows topic, as if the person who were following the show have an untreatable condition that leaves one with no short term memory.

aside from that, i still enjoy the show and all that bit, hope it does well (well enough to get a msg to execs that the fucking reality shows need to go). i just wish jj abrams didnt take the majority of the viewing audience for dolts.

Charlie's tattoo: Living is easy with eyes closed. I think this applies to Charlie, as well as the other "lost" people. Charlie has, basically, been living his entire life with his eyes closed. Now, when he has begun to open his eyes his life has started to turn around...... when he had to look up to find his guitar, when he had to look to where Locke pointed to see the cocoon, and he had to use use his eyes crawling through the hole to reach Jack. This goes for the others as well. The Korean couple and the father & child seem to be "seeing" for the first time...

Sorry bout the spoiler showing up on the quotes! Interesting ideas there though, hadn't though of that....

Clearly Sawyer's parents never hugged him as a child ;)

And that DriveShaft page? Brilliant!

i still want to know what that large creature that killed the bore was...as for them splitting up into two groups...i think that is an okay plan..but they should rotate members every so often so those on the beach wont feel so isolated from the others

Sawyer couldn't have hit Sayid, because they didn't know when Sayid was going to light the rocket.
If you use a lit cigarette as a fuse, you only have so much time to run over to Sayid to ambush him, and you would need to know the exact moment the rocket would go off.
Even if he did have a time delay device, I don't believe he could have traversed the distance they needed for a good triangulation in the required time.
Too much terrain in his way. And, Sayid was up on a high plateau.

/may be talking out my ass ;)

Didn't you hear? Someone said it sounded familiar to them. And they can't see it, right?
It's Mr. Snuffaluffagus! :thumbsup:

She is definately most beutiful. I'm very intrigued as to how her relationship with the black guy (what he knows about her, etc.) will play out.

What is up with the book Watership Down in this show? It's a great book... but it hasn't been on the best seller list in a while...

I'm unaware of the story/plot in Watership Down. What's the storyline like? Maybe something in the book has some tie-in with the story the writers are trying to tell in Lost?

buncha rabbits moving and being eaten by dogs.

sawyer story.... very interesting twist that I wasn't expecting.

I was wondering why he's so messed up. lol

So do you suppose he was on the plane because he was running from the nice gentlemen in the poolhall? :p They may have said something about why, but I missed it if they did....

And...
Spoiler: I guess we finally get to meet the french lady who's voice was on the distress signal. I'm pretty sure she's the one who trapped and drugged Syiad in the preview for next week. I think I read somewhere that she's also the one who bonked him on the head while he was trying to triangulate the signal.

quite possibly, there was no "definitive" reason why he was in Australia unlike the other tales.

For viewers of "Lost" and "Desperate Housewives", did you notice the uncanny correlation of Sawyer's letter to the letter received by Mary Alice? ABC's two hit shows of the season.......................

Coolio observation Grancey. I did notice.

And for all you fans of Watership Down, which is a fantastic book, the story is about a society of rabbits who have been evicted from their warren and they have to travel for many miles to their new home. The story has a wide variety of political undercurrents, it talks about group dynamics, the rabbits run into different families aka societies of rabbits, the commies, the socialists, etc. The main group is the democratic group, with one leader who has a number of advisors. It's supposed to be a kids book, but it's excellent for adults as well.

edit - sorry this note is so all over the place. Hopefully someone who has read the book like I do can back me up in a more clear coherent post.

I didn't see the Sawyer twist coming. Very well done by the writers. I adore this show. I want to marry it and have lots of babies.

:love:

This bugged me for a while until it finally hit me:

Does the Sawyer character remind anyone else of Brad Pitt's character in "Thelma and Louise"? Not only looks, but accent/voice, the quirky smirk, the bad boy persona...

I'm going to stick with the show, but the last few episodes have only been OK. I haven't had a 'holy shit!' moment since Locke's flashback episode. I figure that they are just setting us up for something even bigger.

My favorite speculation so far (I'll spoilerize it, but I haven't seen any confirmation on it): Notice how we haven't heard anything out of the Beast since it came face-to-face with Locke?
Spoiler: Some think that the spirit of the Beast now possesses Locke, and he is now molding each of the characters to do something, who knows what. This really fits in with Locke's conversation with Sayid this episode.

Sawyer's reveal wasn't Holy Shit? It was for me. I didn't see it coming. I still think he's a swarmy bastard though....


Not reading spoiler... not reading.... Gah this is hard. Locke ate the beast? Locke and the beast became one? Not reading!!!

No, I saw Sawyer's reveal as 'OK, that makes sense' rather than 'holy shit!". And he's an asshole and I'm glad that he got beat up, but on the other hand, that was a serious breakdown in law-and-order. And that moment at the end, where Sawyer didn't burn the letter; 'Nah, I think I'll keep being an asshole'. That was a nice touch.

Yeah I liked that he didn't burn it as well. He needs that letter to continue being who he is. That letter is all he's got.

The torture scene though? That was hard to sit through.

did kate seem to enjoy the kiss a little too much?

I think she knew exactly what she was doing. Remember, she is accustomed to having power over men (marshall: "she got to you also?"). For the last couple of episodes, Saywer has had the upper hand in their conversations, and you could see the annoyance on her face. I think she pretended to get lost in the moment, so Sawyer would think he had "won", and that would affect his judgment.

/my woman is not manipulative