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I got my new lottery numbers! :D

Holy sheepdip, what a show!

This was one great episode. Hurley can be intense when he has to be.

Spoiler: So, the numbers were being transmitted even before the French lady arrived?? That's just fonky, man!

Is this the last ep of the season? Or another break?

Good ol' fun time harely! :D

He has, quite possibly, the weirdest backstory out there. Such a weird episode, I don't even know where to begin. Only thing that I'm baffled about is, at the end was that the hatch, that locke and boone discovered, with the numbers on it? If it is, it look like the dug it out a lot since we last saw it. Come to think of it, we haven't seen boone much in a while either.

Yea, that transmission has been going out for a loooooong time. Remember what the woman in Austrailia said to Hurley about her husband's experience listening to static out in the middle of the sea? I assume that he heard the same exact transmission that the French woman heard...

I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

According to lost-tv.com they've aired 18 episodes this season (including the Hurley one tonight) and there are 24 in total, so there's 6 more episodes to go. It says the next episode won't air until April 13th, so there will be five more weeks of reruns before the show comes back. :confused:
But it looks like, starting on April 13th, a new episode will be aired every week, culminating with the last two episodes of the season being shown back to back on May 11th.

If you're curious and can't resist, there's a spoilers section on that site. I read through them (I couldn't help it!). Not much detailed info there (which is good since I didn't want to completely ruin the rest of the season for myself), but the season finale looks like it's gonna be great. Warning: While I did say that there's not much detailed info there, there's enough details to possibly let you in on more than you want to know.

oh man... great episode...

so great when saieed, jack, and charlie were about to go look for hurley and he walks up with the battery and tells Saieed that the french woman says hey

That was a fantastic episode.

Just what was needed methinks. An episode riddled with comedy.

Near the end when Hurley talks to the french lady and kind of freaks out was great.
And the scene with Charlie and Hurley at the end was pretty friggin' funny.

Hurley had been stealing scenes left and right. It was certainly nice to see the big man get a little of the spotlight.

We still didn't get the part of the backstory that landed him on Korean tv, though we now know exactly what it was that made him famous. It seems curious that nobody seems to have known who he was.

I love the way this series takes new revelations and uses them to put a new spin on previous situations. Hurley owes Walt $83,000 for backgammon losses. Before this flashback, the joke was that it's just paper losses, a way of keeping score because money is irrelevant on the island. Now we find out it'd be pocket change, but it's still irrelevant, because money doesn't matter on the island. Nice.

I thought it was just an okay episode myself. I don't have the same love on for Hurley that you guys all do. I mean, he's a good character. I like him. I just thought that the French lady should have been enshrouded in a little more mystery than that. I mean, they kind of just made her a regular character now; not special, not mysterious. They tried to use humour to make the whole scene more digestible, but I didn't necessarily bite...

No new episodes to April 13? WTF? (What the Fudge?)

Alright, the Australian woman said that her husband played the numbers on that "jar as big as a pony" thing, right? That doesn't sit well with me... That means his guess would've been 4,815,162,342. Almost 5 billion beans in the jar...

Ok, I know that's just a technical issue... But it's been bugging me all day and I had to throw it out there.

My favorite part of the episode. It's hard to get me to laugh aloud (I'm a chuckle kind of guy) but Hurley seems to get me going with half his lines...

:thumbsup: I'm glad I wasn't the only one translating the winning digits into a single number for the beans! I thought my math was off -- 4.8 billions of beans is a heckuva lot of beans to fit in a single jar. I then spent an embarrassing amount of time thinking about what kind of beans they were and the size of the jar.

Everyone is playing these numbers for the Powerball lotto Friday. :)

I was thinking the same thing about the number of beans in the jar... I thought maybe he added the numbers up or something, but that only comes out to 108, which isn't that crazy of a number or anything.

Maybe it was a really big jar.

Wow.. this episode was great (in my opinion). I'll be keen to find out who put that bunker or whatever in the ground.. and who started broadcasting the numbers from the island... and why. Why's a good one hehe.

A mate of mine just came up with another spoke in the theory of the connectedness of everything... Hurley owns the box company that Locke works for. May be minor.. it may be huge (if it's true).. never know.

I had the same problem with the issue about the number of beans in the jar.

nice! didn't even pick up on that

Well let's say it was something small like a coffee bean. On doing a little research I found a coffee website that said that there are an average of about 3000 coffee beans per pound, so that would make the weight (not including the weight of the receptacle) about 1.6 million pounds. So I'm guessing that it wasn't a traveling carnival. ;)

Edited to add something I read somewhere else

We're about 5 eps into it down here in Aus and a guy at work hypothesised today that they're all dead and in purgatory. Forgive me for not reading every page of this thread, but has this been mentioned before that anyone has seen?

I've seen that speculation elsewhere. I don't think that's what's going on, because people on the island die, including in the first episode, and because of evidence that's been uncovered in subsequent episodes.

There have been strange, mysterious radio broadcasts going on for years. Numbers. Strange tones. Different languages.

From:totse.com

Numbers Stations

Well over a hundred "numbers" or "spy" stations have
been reported, all rather closely following a pattern. On the
typical numbers station, the announcer is - or seems to be -
a woman. No one knows who the woman is or where she is
broadcasting from. She speaks Spanish, German, or Korean.
Save for a few words at the begining and the end of the
transmission, the message consists of reandom numbers,
announced in groups of five, four, or, rarely, three digits.
As with the Morse code stations, the numbers stations are all
on unauthorized frequencies. No government or organization
owns up to the broadcasts; offically, at least, the FCC
claims no knowledge of them.
Many of those who have listened to the broadcasts
carefully are convinced that the woman is in fact a robot.
The voice has a mechanical ring, somtimes a click between
each digit.



More here and here

There's even an album

oh yeah. One more thing. Hurley was in a mental institution? As a patient, I assume? I wonder if it has anything to do with his nickname.

As far as how long it would take you to count that number, who said it was one guy who counted them? 1 per second is awfully slow if 152 people count 3 per second that's only 4 months.....considering how much of a money maker it was for the game runner, it would probably be worth it. Now the size of the container is something I would be worried about

Wake up, people!!!
A new episode of Lost is airing earlier than first advertised.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19637
I wonder if somebody in management wised-up? :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm looking forward to more Locke backstory. :thumbsup:

Awesome. 6 weeks was just too long.. hell.. 1 week is almost too long :)

Thanks for the update.

Yes, this is very good news. Hooray! A 2.5 hour first season finale? Unprecidented! I'm very anxious...

Was just about to come post about that. Heck yeah!

from today's NYTimes:

double post.. go me.

There are some slight spoilers in that article.. be warned.

Thanks for posting it though, it's good to see they only have slightly more of a clue.

alright.. set your Tivo's, cancel your dinner plans, whatever you do...

get ready for the new one this week ;)

Okay, things are getting pretty intense. Could John's paralysis be psychological?

I loved this episode! It was creepy, powerful, intense, funny, and with a killer cliff hanger... can't wait till next week.

I always assumed that Locke's paralysis was psychological. I guess just because having some physcial injury of his be magically healed by the island would be a little too direct for the show's style. But, in the end, this episode didn't give us any specific clues about his paralysis, right? It started to come back, but we still don't know what's causing it or how he got it.

I've been assuming that Locke's paralysis was physical and that the island's cure was supernatural in origin, but I'm intrigued by the idea that it might be psychological. I'm still thinking that the island is actually manifesting subconscious desires and fears in the inhabitants, like Forbidden Planet and ST: TOS Shore Leave.

Man, talking about cold! Take my other kidney, why don't you?! :eek:

Ya better hide all that heroin from Charlie!

I was laughing my ass off at Sawyer's predicament when they cadged the glasses together. Poor guy. :p

It was good to see them making tools and stuff, alá Gilligan's Island. :thumbsup:

Locke didn't seem to have any feeling in his legs.
He even tested his foot with the burning stick.

I thought that was really interesting about his legs, it's not like he was cured by any means as due to this paralysis he still had no feeling yet he could walk. The episide didn't give much as to how he ended up in the chair I was thinking complications from surgury (when he went to his fathers house from the hospital there was blood on his back soaking through his shirt) or I thought perhaps he got in a car accident on the way from there when he was so mad. Neither answser was confirmed though on this episode.

Next week looks to be good, i'm sure Siad will try and salvage the radio/battery from the plane along with parts. How Charlie will handle the heroin will be interesting as well.

I love this show hope it comes out on DVD quickly after season wrap up so I can watch them all back to back!

Very interesting.... Are you sure Boone will tell about the plane? It seems John won't, and it seems he may even disappear into the hatch for a while. What surprised me was that this backstory of John's didn't seem to cross paths with any of the other characters' backstory (that I can recall we've seen).

John had that dream of the plane, and Boone and all that, so there must be *some* sort of supernatural force.. or John himself has extraordinary powers.

I love this show.

I was thinking the same... It has to be a future plot twist for sure...

I had the same thought about the heroin and Charlie.

Here's my thing, and I hope somebody can clear it up for me, what did the guy on the radio say? Locke was yelling, as well as my kid sister who was spending the night, but it sounded an awful lot like, "There were no survivors." Which would be a HUGE deal. That's exactly what makes me question it...

One of my favorite moments of the show came from that. Where Jack was asking Sawyer about his sexual history... Then, as soon as Sawyer leaves, Jack says, "He needs glasses."

why did Locke lie about how Boone was injured? he always seems to hide things

I wish I could help. I'd like to know, as well.

I thought I had taped it, but what I ended up taping was an hour of the "pause" screen of Mario Tennis. :rolleyes: :D

heh... last time I tried to actually tape a show, I set the channel to record on the vcr wrong... got thirty minutes of a special on how leather is made...

On the upside, I can tell you the centuries old method of removing the hair from cowhide... :rolleyes:

I took a couple more listens and it does sound like that's what he said although it's tough to understand with or without a yelling kid sister.

I didn't make too much of it though. I'm not sure how long its been since the crash, but it seems long enough to assume there are no survivors.

Here's my reasoning: If a guy told me he was a survivor, my response would be something along the lines of, "Oh god, are you okay? Where are you? How many survived?"

"There were no survivors" implies a knowledge of everybody dying or having searched for them and found nothing. At least in my mind...

Even if they found nothing, why would they assume there were no survivors? Why wouldn't flight 518 (I think that's what the guy said) be assumed still missing? To say with such finality that there were no survivors implies, to me at least, that wreckage was found, survivors searched for, and conclusions drawn.

Maybe I'm reading too much into one little, hard-to-hear line from some random guy on the radio?

At least in the next few shows, we might get to find out what the hell is behind the hatch, eh?

Locke is certainly the most interesting character on the show and his back story was pretty good, but it didn't explain why he was in the wheelchair in the first place, which is what I wanted to know. Locke is one strange dude, no doubt about it. He seems to have encyclopedias worth of knowledge lodged in his head, but seems to be pretty stupid concerning the world and how it really works. How naive do you have to be give a relative stranger a kidney? Even if he is your father, Locke hardly knew the guy.

Maybe I'm a cynic, but I like to have some history under my belt with someone before I make the decision to volunteer a vital body organ.

Did anybody notice the book Sawyer was reading? A Wrinkle in Time. My grade school literature may be a little fuzzy, but wasn't that about the relationship of time and space?

I wonder if they put the writers put that book there on purpose.

Same conclusion on the radio message... strange.

I noticed the book too... though not sure how exactly to read that in way of its meaning.

Interesting - in the first episode he was reading Richard Adams' Watership Down... the trite explanation of the book is a "tale of a hardy band of adventurers forced to flee the destruction of their fragile community...and their trials and triumphs in the face of extraordinary adversity as they pursue a glorious dream called "home.""

hmm, so i did some googling on what was said over the radio transmission. It looks like there's a lot controversy about this and no clear answers.

First of all, the captioning for the broadcast read "there were no survivors...".
However, a clip of the show that's posted on the Lost website appears to be very different from what was shown during the actual broadcast. On it, the person on the other end of the transmission echoes Boone (but in a different, less excited and more monotone voice) "Hello, we're the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815."

Relistening to the broadcast, both could make sense and its possible the show purposely jumbled the words in order to generate a little mystery about it.

Heh. That's an excellent description of Mrs. Frisby and thre Rats of NIMH also, which has some interesting parallels to the situation of the people on the island.

I read on a tv board some time ago where there was some speculation regarding the comic book the kid was reading, and the writers said, rather cryptically, that it was carefully chosen.

I think part of Locke's encyclopeadic knowledge of wilderness survival is due to his preparation for the Walkabout he signed up for, and the latest flashback seems to indicate that he's got a great aptitutde for such things--downing a bird the first time he fires a shot while hunting--but I think a big part of it comes from the island itself. It's giving his natural aptitudes and abilities a boost, just like it's done with his legs.

Oh, and my official prediction for what the hatch in the jungle floor is (not taken from a spoiler site or anything, just my WAG): It's the hatch to an alien spacecraft, a huge one buried under the island, and the aliens have been trying to lure someone vulnerable to the island--through the numbers, and other means--for decades, and finally found the right person in Locke.

Gilda, that sounds like a good theory to me, except the craftsmanship looks earthmade, and didn't we see the numbers printed on the outside of the hatch somewhere?
They were definitely regular old earth numbers, too. :)

Hmmm. Maybe the choice of books wasn't willy-nilly after all. That is very interesting. I'll have to pay very close attention to future episodes....


Taking into consideration the choice of literature on the island...Maybe the folks on the island are experiencing some time wrinkle action. Maybe Boone was talking was talking to himself?

As if this show wasn't confusing enough. :p

My first inclination as to who Boone was talking to, was that he was communicating with the pilot of their own plane, in the past as it was still flying.

Doesn't really make much sense, given what was apparently said, but it was the first thing that crossed my mind.

Wow. That's a messed up, and likely improbably theory. It's too intellectual. You have to remember that TV shows are for dumb people. Prime time drama's are not for the thinkers. They're for the couch potato. I agree that shows like 24 ( and perhaps other shows (on HBO or specialty channels) that I don't know about because I don't have fancy cable) are becoming more geared to the thinker, but I just don't think Lost fits into that category. Of course, you're welcome to disagree.

I'll half agree with you, that who the show's lowest common denominator is does have to be considered. I'm also admittedly guilty of mental masturbation from time to time, in that I spend too much time thinking about stuff that probably doesn't deserve that much effort. But who said masturbation was a bad thing? :p

And compared to other shows, I'd say Lost is on the intellectual side of things. At least parts of the show have been. Walt comes to mind... what are his powers, exactly? Did he manifest that polar bear himself? Hints like that keep us guessing. And that's why the jury is still out on Lost. The show has had its viewers come up with some pretty wacky theories as to what's going on (theories like that they are in purgatory), but it's yet to really deliver anything tangible. And if they never do, they'll lose viewers like me who *have* spent some time thinking about the show. So I guess it just remains to be seen... how ever they answer the unanswered will show who the show is really for, I guess.

Hmph, an effective way to get people to watch, no?

In case this hasn't yet been posted, it's a summary of all the theories of what could be happening on Lost:
The article comes from Dose - Canada's newest magazine.

What the crap? Is nobody watching this show anymore??? How could there be no comments? It's already noon EST. Where are you folks? Did you like it? Did you love it? Was it believable?

The whole give a life/take a life thing was pretty obvious, I thought. And I thought that Boones sister was a little cold. But it was a good show. I liked it a lot. Any one else see it or was something else on?

How do you think the finale's gonna go down?

Ticked me off that they went on that O negative blood might send an A negative person into shock, scientific BS is what that was.

I'm still in mourning. Boune dogging was my boy. :|
You my boy Boune! All we are is dust in the wind....


And is it just me but does that baby look evil?

I had read part of an interview with JJ Abrahms, and he said one of the castaways would die before the end of season one. So I wasn't surprised when Boune died.

I was, however, surprised to find out Jack was (is?) married. I hadn't noticed a single thing in previous episodes that would lead us to believe he was. That's also why I think he's no longer married to her. Either that, or he's more of a playa than we thought.

The previews for the coming weeks show Locke getting shot. I honestly don't think Locke will die as well, as he seems to be the most knowledgeable about the island. But who knows.

my life thru Tivo :) I'm about 3 weeks behind.

Well... Jack's dad didn't stay strictly dead...

And I think the baby's interesting in that it was born on the island... It doesn't have all the societal influences the others have.

I dunno... as of late (last episode) his knowledge seemed to be falling apart... even if he did get them to turn on the light for him.

Maybe it was'nt Locke who is shot. Maybe whoever turned on the light in the hatch let him in, and maybe it could be those who inhabit the island portraying Locke, and Locke is actually being held prisoner.

According to the TV Tome recap, the closed captioning for the person Boone was speaking to said, ""There were no survivors of Oceanic Flight 815!". Tv Tome is great for picking up all those little connections that are built into each show, especially if you're like me and tend to miss half of them each week because you're into the story.

Um they wouldn't of been able to tell anyway.

DVD will be available Sept 6, 2005 - Preordering on Amazon now:
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I was watching the preview for the new episode and, you're right, it clearly says "We're the survivors of flight 815." During the episode and even after watching it several times, I couldn't make it out, but on the preview it is as clear as the day is long.

Now here's where it gets interesting, for me at least. :)

The guy on the radio sounded like Boone. So if ourBoone was talking to another Boone, then there would be at least two different Boones. It's not that far a stretch to presume that there are other Jacks, Lockes, Kates, Sawyers, etc.... Maybe even a whole lot of them. So what are they? Where the hell are they? Different dimensions? That's certainly interesting considering Sawyer's reading material as of late.

There's lots of places to take this. I'll posit just a few. What if it doesn't matter that Boone died? What if another Boone just shows up? What if, like dingo suggested, the Locke shot isn't our Locke? Not some instrument of evil, but just another Locke from somewhere else. For the Stephen King fans out there, I'm talking "walk-ins."

I guess we'll know if we start seeing Sawyer reading the Dark Tower Series next... :lol:

ARRRRRRRGHRHRHRHRHRHR

my buddy and I sat down and were gettin all ready to watch the new episode... and its a rerun!!! ARRRRRRRG!

^ you too, huh? :lol:

good, I wasn't the only one confused... I thought there was going to be a new episode tonight as well. Did I misunderstand what the commercials said, or did they change things around?

They've been showing previews of the "new" episode for a week now. And we apparently have to wait a MONTH to see it?

Yeah, what is up with their scheduling?? I think they may lose some casual viewers with these "extended hiatuses".

So apparently there is going to be a "recap" episode on 4/27 and then the final 4 episodes May 4,11, 18, 25.

The scheduling is designed to make sure that new episodes show in May. May is a sweeps month, which is when tv shows' ratings determine the rates they can charge for ads. This is why you always get new episodes in November, February, and May.

Another factor is the shrinking season. For decades, until roughly the late 80's, IIRC, the standard tv season was 26 episodes long; half the year. 26 episodes ensures a pretty straight run of new episdes froma premiere in September to a finale in May if you take into account lost weeks for Thanksgiving and Christmas. It began shrinking as ratings went down in the 90's and actors' salaries skyrocketed. The standard network order nowdays is 22 episodes.

Do the math. You need four new episodes each for the three sweeps months of November, February, and May. That's 12. You need to start the season with 3 or 4 new episodes to get viewers hooked. That's 16. That leaves you six episodes to spread out for the remainder of the year, resulting in a lot of reruns. I love what they did with 24; starting in January to ensure a straight uninterrupted run.

I assumed that it was to be a 2hr. season finale, since that's what they said in the commercials.....

Can Lost have a casual viewer? hehe, it seems like the type of show where you're either hooked, or you're not.

That's a great idea.. every now and then you see the networks doing something good for the viewer, and not just going for money (the sweeps situation).

Jesus is there a thing you don't notice?! :crazy:

Have you guys been discussing Jack's tattos already? I can't seem to find a discussion about that topic anywhere in this thread. Do you guys think his Egyptian-like tattoos has something to do with the island? :hmm:

I found this entry on a discussion of Lost on IMDB:

"I can't find it again on the internet but I read the "Lost" producers/writers stated the show is a remake of classic 50's sci-fi Forbidden Planet and its source material Shakesperes "The Tempest"

Forbidden Planet IMDB plot summary.
When Adams and his crew are sent to investigate the silence from a planet inhabited by scientists, he finds all but two have died. Dr. Morbius and his daughter Altaira have somehow survived a hideous monster which roams the planet. Unknown to Adams, Morbius has made a discovery, and has no intention of sharing it (or his daughter!) with anyone.

Forgetting the plane crash element for a mo. Island with scientists as only survivers. All but two that is, who are still there despiste a hideous monster which roams the island. Locke has made a discovery he has no intention of sharing it with anyone.
Anyone who can remember the film forbidden planet will remember that the monster was created through the imagination of those on the planet manifested with a hugely powerful machine. It was built and left under the ground (hatch) by a long extinct alien race. What happened when walt read the comic book with a polar bear in it. The polar bear was manifested. Children have very vivid imagination therefore he can make things happen on the island if he can see it in his head (eg.throwing the knife perfectly). The walt did this through the machine. Also everyone elses fears and wishes have been manifested.

The Tempest (1979) IMDB plot summary
Prospero, a potent necromancer, lives on a desolate isle with his virginal daughter, Miranda. He's in exile, banished from his duchy by his usurping brother and the King of Naples. Providence brings these enemies near; aided by his vessel the spirit Ariel, Prospero conjures a tempest to wreck the Italian ship. The king's son, thinking all others lost, becomes Prospero's prisoner, falling in love with Miranda and she with him. Prospero's brother and the king wander the island, as do a drunken cook and sailor, who conspire with Caliban, Prospero's beastly slave, to murder Prospero. Prospero wants reason to triumph, Ariel wants his freedom, Miranda a husband; the sailors want to dance.

Providence definition: an influence which is not human in origin and is thought to control whether or not people receive the things which they need

I am not saying this is exact or anything they clearly have done their own thing and it's a series not a 2 hour film/play so there is more stuff in "Lost". The people on the "wrecked italian ship" are the subject, rather than whoever/what it was who created "the tempest". There is clearly a "prospero" kind of thing on the island as there is purpose behind why those specific people were on the plane and the all events after the crash.

You have to disreguard this a dream or they are all dead and in puragtory, which, if true would a very annoying crap answer to it all. It also wouldn't leave much scope for a continuing series. They have to be in the real world. That with the slightly sci-fi looking hatch with unbreakable glass would indicate to me as being an alien related answer. So a machine it is and not a ariel spirit thing. There is a mystical element to everything though, claires card reading guy, the numbers, everyones connections to one another so maybe its both.

At the moment the series doesn't have the scope and blantant scifi/magical element to it. I think it will change alot when they have put some more solid answers on the table it might go a bit crap because of that. Half the fun of the show is that we have no clue as to what is going on.

What are others thoughts on this. (It's not anything to do with purgatory don't bring it up, that ship has sunk)"

Interesting. Veeeery interesting :hmm:

From what I understand, those are Matthew Fox's actual tattoos. After a bit of research, it seems that they are four Chinese characters "鹰击长空" （"Hawks flying in the sky" from a poem of Chairman Mao Tse-Tung (onetime Communist ruler of China). :hmm: And apparently it's significance to Mr. Fox is something that he never discusses in interviews.

If the writers plan to work it int the script remains to be seen, however they did blot it out in one of Jack's flashback scenes.

Oooohhh I see, thanks for the info!! :thumbsup:

If they really did blot it out in the flashback scenes then it must have some sort of significance, it MUST HAVE! :hmm:

another rerun tonite...blarg.. stupid reruns...

and next week looks like its some kind of recap episode...

grumble...grumble...

I just ran into this article on http://www.comingsoon.net about a new face on Lost, on the last episode of this season.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=9298
Wonder what happened to her...

I read about that also. Not knowing how successful the show would be, I'm assuming the writers did not put as much as they might have into the original backgrounds of the characters. Now they can do all the tweaking they want, and it only gets better.

bump

new episode is most of the way over for my time zone... pretty good so far...

i'll wait to discuss it till its shown in other time zones

Aha! I was right. And Saiyed(sp?) even said why as well. Interesting episode, but nothing that made it stand out. Now that sweeps have started, I have somewhere I have to be on Wednesday nights.

They can't kill of Locke... Terry O'Quinn is too great of an actor. His work in The Stepfather and "Millenium" just some of my favourite... His work on "Lost" is just adding to this.

I liked the Saiyd backstory and the ending where he gets tough with Locke "And now you're going to take me to the hatch...John, no more lies." Should be interesting what comes next.
I thought the scene where Shannon tries to kill Locke was ridiculous though. Why should Saiyd apologize to Shannon for preventing her from killing an innocent man? Is he that desperate for some action? And why did everyone just stand there after Locke got shot? Wouldn't they want to check to see how badly Locke was injured?

Finally! Now that everybody seems to know about the hatch maybe we'll get somewhere with it.

yah it was kinda lame...

but locke did lie about what caused boones injury, changing jacks treatment... if he hadnt lied maybe boone woulda lived...

and they know he is hiding something about the hatch

Sayid apologizing to Shannon isn't all that ridiculous when viewed through the context of the backstory that was just revealed...

It's all wrapped up in the guilt he must feel for his friend's suicide, etc. Doing the right thing vs. doing what is right for your friend...

That's a deep read, Charlatan. But you're right. As usual.

eh, that kinda makes sense and maybe that's what the writers were thinking, but it doesn't completely make sense.
In the flashback, at least IMO, it was more about Saiyd doing what was right for himself (finding his girl) vs. what was right for his friend. I just don't see much of a connection.

I saw it as a pretty good parallel. In the flashback, Sayid did what he did out of concern for his girl, with disastrous consequences; on the island, he got the chance to fix that, but not acting solely out of concern for his girlfriend, but instead doing what was right. It's about redeeming past wrongs, just as with many other flashback / island parallels.

That's what I was getting at exactly.

Thanks for clarifying that. It still doesn't sit well with me, probably stemming from my intense dislike for Shannon, but I'm sure you're right about the intended parallels.

So, what did you all think? I was impressed. It seemed like there were a lot of commercials though. I liked the part where the little boy touches Locke and says "Don't open it, whatever it is" adding to his creepiness. Is his name Walt? Did you guess who poisoned who? Did you guess that Kate was the ring leader? I didn't, but I'm easy to fool.
Next week seems interesting. The whole "they will get you" thing is interesting, for sure. I wonder if they'll have the raft set off in the finale, or if it will break, or if it will go and it'll be like a cliff hanger for next season. Anyways, it's shaping up well.

I predict they will launch the boat but it will travel in a circle and end up right back where they started... the island will not let them go.

Locke has me interested... When we left off before the break, the last shot was Locke looking into the window of the hatch as a light went on inside. We don't know anything else about what happened there... He is up to something and may be in cahoots with the hatch.

Looks like the French woman makes an appearance next week to warn that The Others are coming... what did she say in the promo? You can run, hide or die? Something like that anyway...

Two more eps to go!

It was extremely corny sounding... Very Jean Claud Van Damme

Wouldn't it be great if the hatch burst open and out sprang Jean-Claude VanDamme?

And then he started jumping and kicking everybody? I know that's what I'd like to see...

"Don't open it. Whatever it is, don't open it."

Michael: "We don't have to leave, you know."
Walt: "YES, WE DO."

That did it for me. Can't wait for the last two episodes.

I like that Walt has the Shining.

Words fail in an attempt describe just how good this show is.

can't wait for the last episodes either.

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Wow.. so.. the raft's afloat.. There've been people crashing there long before the french woman (Black Rock)... Sawyer finally told Jack about his dad.... the mechanic-sounding thing is the security system for the island... I love this show. Can't believe there's only ~2hrs to go until we're done (for this season).

yah way good episode...

i think the raft will return to the island... just doesnt seem like people should be able to leave...

so we can assume that the "monster" of the island is something mechanical? I wasn't 100% sure what we were hearing, but it didn't sound natural.... hm, this could get interesting.

I really liked Jin and Sun's goodbye... I think they're my favorite characters. It was nice to see them say goodbye on good terms.

and why the hell did they bring Hurley on their dynamite mission? his fat ass is just gonna slow them down! :p

That dawned on me, too. Just from the standpoint of it being a TV show, it doesn't seem like they're gonna have all those characters leave permanently.

I've always believed the raft would do one of two things:

1) head out to sea for a few days and just arrive back on the island where they left.
2) head out and circle around and be forced back ashore on the otherside of the island where they will be once more marooned but will discover something new and mysterious about the island that will propel season two.



This is such a build up episode. Not much happened plot wise but they did tie up a few loose ends with some of the characters... it's like the story is coiling for a big lead to the finish next week... I can't wait.