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Old 03-29-2007, 12:17 PM   #681 (permalink)
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So have we decided that Leoben was lying when he told Roslyn that Adama is a cylon?
I think he was talking about Lee, and I still think he could be right. If Starbuck is a non-corporeal construct like the Baltar and Caprica Six constructs, then Lee may very well be a cylon, though that calls into question the parenting abilities of Bill's ex wife (not noticing your son has been replaced by a cybernetic life form is right up there with alcoholism).
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:04 PM   #682 (permalink)
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Will... I'm willing to bet Starbuck is real. Imaginary Starbuck I can buy.... imaginary Viper and imaginary DRADIS contact I can't buy that RDM would do that.

The 4 revealed ones were all key resistance members on New Caprica. That's the only thing they all have in common. Now if they are Cylons that would be even more interesting as far as that goes... why did they end up leading the resistance?
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:24 PM   #683 (permalink)
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Will... I'm willing to bet Starbuck is real. Imaginary Starbuck I can buy.... imaginary Viper and imaginary DRADIS contact I can't buy that RDM would do that.
Well non-corporeal Six shagged Baltar more than a few times. I'd be willing to bet fooling the mind into thinking it can see a DRADIS contact (that no one else noticed) would be simple enough.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:52 PM   #684 (permalink)
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Here's my thought.

Starbuck is now on her second body, having underwent a totally corporeal ressurection.

The President is sharing dreams with Hera and Six because she has some hybrid DNA in her body now, due to the cancer "cure".

The four revealed are all cylons.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:39 AM   #685 (permalink)
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Terrible Bob Dylan cover.

I have to vent in this episode, that the cover of Bob Dylan that they used was simply awful. Since the show has a lot of it's feel based on music, I think this bad cover really detracted away from the episode right at the key point of revealing the cylons. I just started groaning at that point and gave up on the show.

What was the point of season 3?
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:44 AM   #686 (permalink)
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I thought it was a great cover Fit quite well in the BSG universe. To each their own though: music is certainly a different experience for everyone.

As for the point of season 3? Episodes 1-5 (counting the 2 hour premier as episodes 1 and 2), 11-12, and 17-20 (although 17, "Maelstrom," wasn't a particularly great episode). The other episodes weren't generally all that bad - in fact, I quite enjoyed a few of them - but having so many such episodes in the season really dragged down the momentum. I would have preferred to see them spend the first half of the season on New Caprica - plenty of storylines available there - and then quickly move on to Eye of Jupiter and Rapture in the middle just like it was, followed by Collaborators and then a couple of the more character-based episodes leading the the arc of the last 4. Would obviously require some tweaking to make the episodes fit together that way, but I think the pace would have been much more steady overall.

Either way, what's done is done. I'm looking forward to season 4
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SecretMethod70: the only problem with staying on new caprica for half the season is Galactica and Pegasus were somewhere else. doing a storyline on them would be freaking boring all this time. I'm glad they did this way because it had just the right amount of action and not too much galactica/pegasus boringness.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:41 AM   #688 (permalink)
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While the people were struggling New Caprica, Galactica/Pegasus would be struggling with the debate over whether or not to return and attempt a rescue while also piecing together the puzzle to find earth. For example, Galactica/Pegasus would be discovering the clue to go in the direction of the mid-season planet, which would then make it nice and convenient to quickly go from the rescue to the Eye of Jupiter/Rapture storyline. While the Galactica/Pegasus storylines wouldn't be full of action, they'd be full of at least no less intrigue than we were already given between the rescue and Eye of Jupiter. Alongside that, there would be much MORE action with New Caprica, as opposed to the lack of action that followed the New Caprica storyline. I'm not one to complain about lack of battles and such, but I do think that this season lacked urgency.

Just a thought. Certainly not perfect, and most definitely irrelevant at this point
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:57 PM   #689 (permalink)
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Hey Secret Method - good to converse again.

During the Occupation/Exodus, the Admiral and Commander would have been thinking:

1. Are there sufficient human beings in the current fleet that would allow us to just bug off?

2. Since the answer to no 1 is no, then what can we do in order to get the humans off of NC and back into the fleet?

3. Thus, the mega battle over NC.

After this, the fleet seemed to be in a lull, just trying to get their bearings. But as we were allowed to view life on board the Cylon Basestars, we could see that they are also conflicted as to the direction they should go.

I'd like to say, however, that Helo is not exonerated for blowing the chance to end the Cylon threat (regardless of Athena's feelings.) Helo became a traitor by not allowing the virus plan to unfold as ordered.

They'd not have cylon probs now if he'd done it! Down with Helo, I say!
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:12 PM   #690 (permalink)
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Holy crap.

I've spent the last couple months catching up on this show, and I just finished watching the Season 3 finale. I loved it. The whole show's been a blast... this season had some slow points, but it ended really well I thought. Lee's speech was great... The outcome of the trial seemed expected, but I at least thought it was well executed.

I had no doubt that Starbuck was coming back, so that wasn't a big surprise. Her death was definitely rushed, it seemed obvious that we hadn't seen the last of her. The jury's still out on whether her return was well-done. We'll have to see where they go with it. Also: Lee's encounter with Starbuck was eerily similar to what Starbuck experienced right before her ship blew up. Coincidence?

But my favorite aspect was the music they kept hearing. Could you guys tell what song it was, before the four of them started to sing it? I remember Ty saying it the lyric at some point, but I didn't catch on to it being the Watchtower song they were hearing until we saw the montage of them singing it.... which creeped the hell outta me.

I was pissed about Gaeta lying on the stand. I had a lot of respect for the guy doing what he could in the rebellion, and standing his ground when Ty and co. were prosecuting the traitors. But then for him to stab Baltar in the back like that was wrong, regardless of one's feelings for the arrogant ass. Was he coerced to lie?


And.... 2008? That's a joke, right?
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Old 04-27-2007, 04:01 AM   #691 (permalink)
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Unfortunately not...

But I hear that there is going to be a Pegasus Mini series about the time between the fall and when the two ship meet up. That is supposed to be this fall. I could be wrong, as my wife say that wouldn't be the first time.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:53 AM   #692 (permalink)
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...But my favorite aspect was the music they kept hearing. Could you guys tell what song it was, before the four of them started to sing it? I remember Ty saying it the lyric at some point, but I didn't catch on to it being the Watchtower song they were hearing until we saw the montage of them singing it.... which creeped the hell outta me.
All Along the Watchtower, by Bob Dylan
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:58 AM   #693 (permalink)
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I prefer the Hendrix version.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:34 AM   #694 (permalink)
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I too prefer either the Hendrix or Dylan versions, of course, but the podcast (by Ronald Moore) for that episode explained it pretty well for me - he basically said that according to the mythos they're developing, it makes sense for there to be a song 'All Along The Watchtower' identical to the one we have...but for Hendrix (or Dylan) to be singing it wouldn't make sense, since there wouldn't be a Hendrix or Dylan in the BSG universe.

Ok, it's a bit of a stretch, but at least it's an explanation.

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Old 05-13-2007, 06:46 AM   #695 (permalink)
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People may be aware, but just in case...

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=41457

Edward James Olmos scared people by saying the fourth season was the final one, but David Eick said that was not the case. We've got Razor in the fall to tide us over until next year.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:47 AM   #696 (permalink)
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Easy guys. I made it up. Just saying - the Russian is out of everyone's minds now and to have him come back all of a sudden would be crazy. That would have been a cooler way to handle Starbuck than having her "die" for just a little while and then come right back. Sheesh.

Ok - now what if it HAPPENS!!!! Then I would be too cool for school!
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:37 AM   #697 (permalink)
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People may be aware, but just in case...

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?id=41457

Edward James Olmos scared people by saying the fourth season was the final one, but David Eick said that was not the case. We've got Razor in the fall to tide us over until next year.
Apparently They changed their minds.

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LOS ANGELES, California (Hollywood Reporter) -- The upcoming fourth season of Sci Fi Channel's "Battlestar Galactica" will be its final one after all.

After months of speculation, the show's producers are set to make the announcement at a press conference Friday.

Ending "Battlestar" with the upcoming 22-episode fourth season was a creative decision made by the hit show's executive producers Ronald Moore and David Eick.

"This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and, finally, an end," Eick and Moore said in a statement Thursday. "Over the course of the last year, the story and the characters have been moving strongly toward that end, and we've decided to listen to those internal voices and conclude the show on our own terms. And while we know our fans will be saddened to know the end is coming, they should brace themselves for a wild ride getting there -- we're going out with a bang."

The fourth and final season of "Galactica" will kick off in November with "Razor," an extended two-hour episode, with the rest of the season slated to run beginning in early 2008.

Sci Fi executive vp original programming Mark Stern said the channel's brass "respect the producers' decision to end the series."

For months, Sci Fi had dispelled rumors about "Battlestar" ending its run after the fourth season.

A couple of weeks ago, one of the show's stars, Edward James Olmos, was quoted as saying that the upcoming batch of episodes were definitely the last ones. Sci Fi issued a statement denying such a decision had been made.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/0...eut/index.html
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:58 AM   #698 (permalink)
 
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Good!! I'm happy.
I'm sick of shows with no end. 24 season 10? simpsons season 35? kill it while it's good and fresh.

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its a space shooter based on the new bsg! right now, it's just a demo but it's free and it runs on the freespace2 engine. check it out! i'm currently downloading it but i saw the gameplay footage and it looks awesome!
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:30 PM   #699 (permalink)
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  • The decision to end after season four needed to be a collective one, which would be why there was some disconnect with prior reports.
  • The season opener will not be connected to how the third season ended, not picking up after the cliffhanger but instead going back a bit in time a season or two ago (perhaps into the second season), connecting events there with what will happen in season four.
  • Another project of Eick's, Them, may be up for a mid-season show, which will feature Tricia Helfer at least in some capacity.
  • The question of Caprica was brought up, which would have taken us back to the beginning of the Cylons' existence. They indicated there's definitely the interest there to make the show a reality. They also say that it will have the same sort of built-in endpoint like Battlestar has.
  • Both guys feel that they will have told the story they wanted to tell once the next season concludes.
  • Eick jokingly called the Lost folks "thieves in the night" for their use of the flash-forward in the season finale.
  • I asked both guys about whether or not we'll see what Earth is like once Galactica arrives there, but they were understandably vague there. Moore says we'll see "a little more" of Earth next season, but since they haven't yet written the season ender, they're just not sure what we'll see.
  • I also asked if we'll see Lucy Lawless at all this season, and they say there are talks there but nothing definitive.
  • I also asked if Ron is planning to do any podcasts this summer, and he can only say that he's going to try.
  • Ron says that The Thing movie remake is still being worked on. Damn, that's the first I'd heard of that. Cool!
  • Later on in the fourth season it will be further explained why 'All Along The Watchtower' is significant. They also reveal that originally they were going to have the Simon & Garfunkel song 'America' instead.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:41 PM   #700 (permalink)
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It's bittersweet. I know that something this amazing needs to end on it's own terms, but I'll miss it terribly. It feels like a divorce.
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:07 PM   #701 (permalink)
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I never thought I'd say this but, Starbuck is really hot. At first I was pissed that Starbuck was a woman in the new version, but I think this is actually an interesting way to go with the character. Besides, the cast would be a bit male-heavy.

Boomer is hotter than Starbuck (IMHO) especially when she is soaked (Water).

- didn't the original Starbuck actor go on to become "The Faceman" in the "A-Team"?

I just obtained the 3 seasons on DVD from my neighbour, and have been working my way through them (on Season 1, the episode where they decide to elect a vice-president).

Astounding series and I am hooked. I really like the way Olmos does a Horatio Cane, do you think they were tutored by William Shatner? At any rate, he makes the show.

-- Just a note on the history/cosmology of the series: I gather that in this universe, Humanity has long ago left the Earth to build an inter-planetary civilisation. It currently appears to be heavy into Greek/Western deities and astrology for cultural/symbolic support. What is the reference to Kobol? One of the planets that has now become ancient in Human history?

How long ago in this universe did humanity leave Earth, if nobody knows where it is now?

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Boomer is hotter than Starbuck (IMHO) especially when she is soaked (Water).
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- didn't the original Starbuck actor go on to become "The Faceman" in the "A-Team"?
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-- Just a note on the history/cosmology of the series: I gather that in this universe, Humanity has long ago left the Earth to build an inter-planetary civilisation. It currently appears to be heavy into Greek/Western deities and astrology for cultural/symbolic support. What is the reference to Kobol? One of the planets that has now become ancient in Human history?

How long ago in this universe did humanity leave Earth, if nobody knows where it is now?
I can't answer this question without giving away a lot of information, assuming you're still in the first season. When you've finished all 3, come back and I will answer all.
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:26 PM   #704 (permalink)
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Is anyone excited about Battlestar Galactica: Razor?
Is anyone else sad that you have to endure Flash Gordon to watch it? :-)

Luckly for me I have Tivo. Fast Forward FTW!
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Is anyone excited about Battlestar Galactica: Razor?
Is anyone else sad that you have to endure Flash Gordon to watch it? :-)

Luckly for me I have Tivo. Fast Forward FTW!

I will get it on DVD in early december. No publicity

As for the story itself, might be interesting, but it's season four I want
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:57 AM   #706 (permalink)
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I tried to give Flash a shot. It is painful. I will wait until I can download the Razor stuff.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:24 AM   #707 (permalink)
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Agreed on Flash. It's a joke, and not a funny one.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:00 PM   #708 (permalink)
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The Season 4 Promo is up on Youtube! Enjoy.

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Battlestar Galactica: Razor Flashbacks (Part 1)
Battlestar Galactica: Razor Flashbacks (Part 1)

Please to enjoy. Remember, even though we've all agreed Flash Gordon sucks ass, we get full quality Battlestar during the commercials, brand spanking new. I'd watch Fear Factor if it meant new Battlestar.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:05 PM   #710 (permalink)
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Yay - more Baltar, also glad to hear that this isn't the final Battlestar season!
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:49 PM   #712 (permalink)
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^ Oops - you're right, read the wrong article up at the top, or at least didn't read the article afterwards.
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:31 AM   #713 (permalink)
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The newest Battlestar Razor was awesome. It was nice to see the classic Cylon ships again! WOOT!
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The newest Battlestar Razor was awesome. It was nice to see the classic Cylon ships again! WOOT!
It's so cool to see "Husker" taking out toasters in his military infancy.
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Not really a fan of the guy playing young Adama, but the webisodes have been cool nonetheless. Definitely great to see the old style raiders and basestars. Plus, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but they made the music more reminiscent of the original series as well, which is cool.
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Yes they did, but it's still very much Bear.
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:17 PM   #717 (permalink)
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Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

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I'm either the first or the 100th loser who's came in here and said this.
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I haven't seen any of the Razor flashbacks yet but I watched the Razor movie last night and it kicked ass. I loved the old school toasters.
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Was it leaked? Is it the joyous time for spoiler tags in the BSG thread again?!
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