Mr.Deflok

Hi comicbook geeks! I was wondering if someone could be so kind as to clue me into what has been going on the X-Men universe since Magneto got his mind wiped by Xavier?

I used to be a devoted comic book collector but due to budget constraints I gave up, the new X-men movie has piqued my interest once again and I've started to buy the Wolverine comic book again, was just wondering what's been happening in the X-universe so I can pick that up with minimal confusion.

Thanks for any help you may be able to give!

shinji

i used to be a big fan too, but i haven't been reading very much either. i'd sporadically pick up x-men for a couple months. i don't know all the details. are you talking about the mindwipe when magneto ripped out wolverine's adamantium skeleton?

i'll just briefly say random events that i still remember, but i don't know how much it'll help.

-colossus martyred himself to help dr. moira find a cure to the legacy virus.
-magneto dies. by wolverine, too.
-evidently now there's a second stage to mutant growth. jean is losing her telekinesis, but becomes a more powerful telepath. beast becomes more feral. white queen has some kind of weird organic diamond skin thing.
-sentinels sent by xavier's separated-at-birth twin sister slaughter millions of mutants on genosha.
-professor x is able to walk again courtesy of shi'ar technology. and the public knows that xavier's school is a school of mutants now.
-wolverine got mind controlled by apocalypse and became his horseman (death, i think). he had to beat sabretooth for the honor, i believe. the reward was an adamantium skeleton, so he's got that back.
-white queen joined the x-men as an instructor. cyclops is telepathically cheating on jean with the white queen.
-new costumes. it's more like a uniform now.

the one thing i don't know is: where the hell did all the old characters go? gambit, rogue, storm, etc.? all that's left is cyclops, wolverine, jean grey, angel, nightcrawler, iceman, and beast.

you should read origin, too, if you haven't already. wolverine's origin!

BastardSamurai

Rogue and Storm were in X-Treme X-Men.

Actually, Magneto was merely injured by Wolverine. In the issue where the Super-Sentinels destroyed Genosha, Magneto was in a wheelchair looking upward as a Sentinel descended on his building before killing him.

Before he died, Magneto imprinted the last words of every mutant who died onto a black box that will forever play all of those last words, so that their thoughts and memories will forever transmit into space, and everyone will then hear and hence never forget what happened to Genosha. Interesting little bit of Greek philosophy (immortality through repeated words) thrown in there.

Mr.Deflok

Thanks guys, this is huuuuuge help!!!

A few more questions:
What issue was Magneto's death?
Is he actually dead?
And how did Logan injure him?

Wolverine's origin, wasn't that told in the Weapon X TPB?

Thanks again guys!

BastardSamurai

Alright, like many comics, this gets kinda convoluted, lemme see if I can explain this:

I didn't read the issue where Wolverine "injures" him. That happened in Uncanny X-Men, I think, which I don't read. People assumed that Magneto died when Wolverine stabbed him up in there.

Anyhow, a very weird writer named Grant Morrison (The Invisibles, Animal Man, JLA) took over for New X-Men, which I do read. His first storyline was about Super-Sentinels destroying Genosha, and in New X-Men #115, they show a man in a wheelchair looking up as a Super Sentinel flew up and destroyed the building. Morrison later confirmed that Magneto, injured from Wolverine's earlier attack, was the dude in the wheelchair.

Does anyone stay dead in Marvel comics? Not really, but so far, he's assumed to be dead. One of the themes in New X-Men is how young mutants became disillusioned with the world after Magneto's "death", and started building giant statues and tributes to him. Magneto is being treated similarly to Che Guevara, where people wear his emblem and quote him and emulate him whenever possible. Basically, extending the idea that while his physical body is gone, his ideas are immortalizing him in people's minds. The other X-books are also acknowledging him as dead from the Genosha incident, so officially, Marvel is saying he died in New X-Men #115. Of course, some other writer could easily resurrect him for the hell of it.

Also, while Wolverine's "origin" was told in the Weapon X storyline, Marvel recently did a six-issue mini called "Origin", which is about Wolverine's childhood as Logan. So one can argue that Wolverine's origin was in Weapon X, and that "Origin" is merely "Logan's origin."

otefsu11

i've got a question as well.. what ever happened with Sinister? he was my all-time favorite villain, and i wanna catch up. i haven't picked up a book for about three years now, but i'm getting back into it.

Mr.Deflok

Oh that reminds me, I bought and read all the Age of Apocalypse series', was that before or after the mindwipe? I was but a little boy back then. I think it was after...

Ganguro

Xtreme Xmen.. i believe that is where a few of the "missing" team members were. They split off from the Xmen to do something that was terribly important and they couldn't let Professor Xavier know about it (especially after the whole onslaught thing). A mutant with precognative powers, Destiny, made thirteen diaries that foretell the future of humanity and mutantkind. Mystique tried to decipher these diaries, which are in pictograms, illustrations, and languages even Destiny did not fully understand. This drove her crazy and she mailed the books to Xavier, thinking that if he solves their mysteries, the world would be a better place. But if he can't and he goes crazy like she did, all the better. Xavier can't be allowed to have these books, since he would use their knowledge to try to change the world, or could go crazy and create another Onslaught, and that can't be good for anyone.

shinji

the other x-men are gone somewhere doing something important or something. don't know, yeah...

magneto has captured xavier and prepares for war against humanity. cyclops and wolverine have infiltrated genosha and are running around in the sewers. jean grey flys a bunch of interim x-men (n00bs, former alpha flight members, sunfire's cousin, + dazzler) to genosha to get xavier back. magneto blows up the blackbird. dazzler converts the clamor of the colliseum into photons to attack, magneto switches the flow of electrons and turns dazzler into a pile of ash. magneto defeats the rest of the temps easily. cyclops manages to at least hit his helmet before getting knocked down. wolverine rushes and is about to get the adamantium ripped out of him again.

...except dazzler isn't really dead! she projected a holographic image of her death (i assume) while xavier was getting rescued. xavier prevents the now helmetless magneto from using his powers. dialogue. wolverine stabs magneto through his stomach area. there's a few inches of claw sticking out of his back. he looks pretty dead now, but i suppose it is unreasonable to assume that such an important character will stay dead for long.

age of apocalypse was an alternate reality. i don't think it affected the main reality at all, except maybe explained some stuff about the x-man, cable, and stuff, which i never really understood anyway.

m0rpheus

Actually Jean's TK seems to be getting more powerful, as well she's rejoined with the Phoenix Entity. Not really sure how or why or whats going to come of it, as it nothing much has been revealed yet.

The Beast isnt really more feral, he's as smart as ever, just mutated physically to become more cat-like.

Prof X is able to walk due to the new X-man Xorn. His mutation is an ability to heal others.

Also
Angel has a secondary mutation with the ability to heal himself and others
Iceman is slowly becoming totally ice (unable to turn back)

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Psivage

My advice: stick to back issues. There is a lot of crap floating around in the X-Men. Some people have a boner for Grant Morrison work and think he is gods gift to the X-Men, personally I think his stuff sucks. Chuck Austen the writer for Uncanny X-Men, well there are alot of people who think he should be tarred and feathered for his work on Uncanny. To some point I agree on. Juggernaut is not as powerful as he once were. Nightcrawler has been revealed to be a half demon. Iceman might be gay now. Oh yeah almost forgot Beast might be gay as well. Don't know Beast said it was a joke. But then he was talking to the white queen and imply that he could be. Marvel needs a crisis like event.

leon2345

Sinister hasn't been in the comics for a bit, but is coming going to make a return soon, first in Weapon X, then in Uncanny (I think).

Ganguro

the beast gay thing was a joke i believe..
Necause his relationship with the reporter was going soo horribly, and with all the changes going on in his life after Bernard put him in a coma and all the stuff that went on durring Morrison's Xmen run.. he just doesnt have time for a "normal" relationship anymore..

I really liked Morrison's work with the team though, great writing.. but to each their own. I havent read anything since that story arch though..

p.s. who keeps ressurecting old threads?

MPower

Ive been getting xmen since '81 and everything is totaly convoluted now. I wont stop getting the comics, but go watch the xmen evolution cartoons. They are better than whats going on in the books now. If you have to get an xmen comic, get exiles.

rogue49

Currently...because you never know when it's going to change.

Colussus - Dead
[b]Magneto[b] - Dead
Wolverine - he's now not the only "Weapon", X means 10, so there's more and it turns out he was born in the late 1800's
Iceman - is also starting his second mutation.
Cyclops - is having a psychic affair with the White Queen, and is going through some depression (yes, even more so)
Nightcrawler - is now a priest and is trying to find out if his mom is truly Mystique
Jean Grey - yes, her Telekinesis is phenomenonially more powerful and yes she is slowly coming to terms with the Pheonix Force.
Angel - has taken control of his company and is having a fling with Husk (18-19 yo?), and yes, can heal others now.
Beast - looks more like a tiger now
Prof X - yes, healed by Xorn...and seems to be more cynical, public, proactive and a bit more ruthless, less idealistic.
Havok - was in a coma, came out of it, almost married Polaris (who turned out to be a murderer), and fell for his nurse.
NorthStar - of AlphaFlight fame is now teaching at the school and is getting involved more.
White Queen - is now a good guy, and now is being revealed about her past (she got plastic surgery)
Juggernaut - is now staying with the Xmen, and is trying to be a good guy
(not nice, but good...working out issues with himself & his half-brother Prof X)
Storm, Rogue, Cannonball, Sage & Bishop are now in a separate more public group (Xtreme Xmen)
(they actually got acknowledged by the general public for saving the world...can you believe it after all this time?)
I forget where Gambit is but I think he lost his powers...for now at least.

BTW, the Beast gay thing was in "Ultimate Xmen", this is an alternative universe

The titles that represent the "real" time line & mostly the main teams are:
The Uncanny Xmen
New Xmen
X-treme Xmen

Other Teams:
X-force
X-factor

Same Timeline:
Wolverine
AlphaFlight

Good titles, but different universes
Ultimate Xmen
Exiles

Old titles that are gone:
Cable, Generation X, X-man, New Mutants & Mutant X

Villians that haven't shown in a bit:
Sinister & Apocalypse (thank god, I hate them)

Of course, each Xman has their own mini-series in the meantime...White Queen is the current one
Now this is cool because it tells her origins.

This is what's coming at us...
http://x-worldcomics.com/x/column/mutantwatch081303.htm

leon2345

No, rogue49, the Beast gay thing is indeed in New X-Men. He admits that it was a joke intended to hurt an old girlfriend in issue #134.

Gambit and Rogue went off together after they both got stabbed by Vargas and lost their powers (X-treme X-men # 18).

Oh, and Cyclops quit the team and ran off after Jean confronted him about his and Emma's psychic affair. But he's currently on a mission with Wolverine and Fantomex to uncover the Weapon Plus project.

MPower

Things were much simpler in the old days:
Xavier was replaced by an alien, Scott knocked up jean's clone who tried to take over the world, Beast mutated, Iceman had his powers go out of control, um, well, I guess some things never change, check back in another 10yrs Deflock.

AP1

whoa. i thought i knew something until i walked in here. you guys are hardcore. thanks for all the info.

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Mr.Deflok

How did Colussus die? I picked up the beginning of a mini series a few months back where the White Queen died, shattered into little diamond pieces, she still dead?

Thanks for all the recent input guys!

grayman

Hey can anyone tell me who Apocalypse's four horsemen were in Age of Apocalypse? I remember Holocaust, Abyss, and Sinister. Who was the fourth? Thanks for the help.

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leon2345

Colossus died curing the Legacy Virus. Beast and Moira developed a cure, but it required infecting a person and then that would release something into the air that would cure everyone.

Emma was shattered, and that started the Murder at Xavier's storyline. She was shot by Esme, one of the Stepford sisters (students of hers) but was fused back together by Jean.

Psivage

Mikhail (Colossus' brother) Did a quick check.

mystmarimatt

wow, this thread hurts my brain....however, thanks for all the info, i'd been wondering too

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Psivage

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