06-25-2008, 08:41 AM | #601 (permalink) | |
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07-07-2008, 05:35 PM | #602 (permalink) | |
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07-08-2008, 01:12 PM | #604 (permalink) |
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I think I have an idea what ARTelevision is talking about. Most people in the world live on default and compare themselves to other people and mostly to Media icons. All people have to do is start living and doing the things that they want to do, and that would be thinking for yourself. Just continualy ask yourself, and be brutally honest, "Am I enjoying this?" "Do I feel good about this?" "Would I do that if I felt no fear?"
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07-08-2008, 04:53 PM | #605 (permalink) | ||
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This article comes from Dec 24, 1992. The images that we can see as we read the point show how the power of advertising really saturates. Quote:
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07-09-2008, 12:35 PM | #606 (permalink) | |
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07-14-2008, 06:51 AM | #607 (permalink) | |
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tv = I dislike TV and barely ever watch...the brain control device
radio = I only hear it in the morning a a few minutes when the alarm goes off exposure to billboards and product advertising = I look away if I can movies = once or twice a year magazines/newspapers = hahahaha, how rare indeed commercial Internet = I am quick to outmaneuver talking about media subjects = yes this can happen from time to time Quote:
Theres more to this then one might think. Here are the straight facts... ViaCom wants to monoplize media, they own 90% of all media outlets through America and 40% throughout Europe (most of the channels you might watch are all part of the same pyramid). They would buy more, except Europe banned that and the last 10% won't sell...thank god! Vaicom sucks rotten dead donkey dick! They funnel up to an ultra conservative right wing family of extremists (obviously...buying that much media says it all) who want to control how we think. They don't like exposure, so here is a little more for them! Quote:
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That is my specialty!!! I am a subconscious pioneer!!! As a result, I can quickly identify the intentions behind almost nearly every sign and symbol you can think of, which renders me immune to their affects. I live in symbols, breath them, ponder them day and night and now I can read the signs like never before! There are others...more subtle...more revealing...to watch out for. These ones lead to another world, but they are so hard to spot and so easy to lose. ARTelevision, this thread of yours is very interesting to myself, I will return to see where this is going! Thank You!
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07-14-2008, 06:58 PM | #609 (permalink) |
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You're very welcome, Jozen-Bo.
As you can see, it's a big thread. There have been many offshoots, directions, and tributaries through which the discussion has flowed. And there are many great contributors to it as well. I hope you'll be one of them. "Critical thinking" is the reason it's here.
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07-14-2008, 07:00 PM | #610 (permalink) |
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I don't know about viacom owning 90% of all media in the US.
I worked for them for 11 years, during their growth and acquistion years, CBS merger and CBS seperation. but critical thinking is important.
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07-15-2008, 09:15 AM | #612 (permalink) | ||
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One question...who owns the internet...I think the answer is no one...thank god for that!!! I types ViaCom Monopoly in under Google to see what sort of hits I'd get. Check it out: http://www.google.de/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta= At this point, I am uncertain what to think about them, but I do know that monopolizing media sucks dead rotten donkey dick hard...no no...it chokes on it! Quote:
I will have to dig through it, and I hope as well to be able to contribute! When the times are critical...so must the think be!
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09-05-2008, 10:20 AM | #613 (permalink) |
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I want to stop and thank you all for your intelligence, especially about the "media". I've recently have had a lull in tasks at work and have read some of the rants and raves section on craigslist, here in Raleigh, NC, and I am sure that those poor people have definitely had a major media overload.
It is a shame that not only is there media brainwashing going on, but that we are complicit in that brainwashing and, it seems, seek it out. Can't get enough of that good old fashioned stupidity. People run to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to see what they need to be thinking today. I'm a fan of Bill Hicks (rest his soul) and I think he had a true understanding of the problem... Bill Hicks is dead, George Carlin is dead, and we have Dane Cook and Carlos Mencia, who will probably live forever.... Hmm, sounds like I have been in the media pool a bit too much too.
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10-11-2008, 04:55 AM | #614 (permalink) | |
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10-27-2008, 08:37 AM | #615 (permalink) | |
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10-27-2008, 09:11 AM | #616 (permalink) | |
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That reminds me of this:
The Truth About Teen Girls - TIME Quote:
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12-18-2008, 08:26 AM | #617 (permalink) |
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Mass Media Misery Machine
The video is an award winning documentary and one which I thoroughly enjoyed watching and thinking about afterwards on the subject of Terror Management Theory. Specifically, the idea that exposure to the idea that _You Will Die_ raises people's 'fight' reaction with a corresponding increase in violent behaviours and/or tendencies... I wonder what effect all the attention to death, particularly violent death in the media has? (duh) Would similar reactions occur when faced with fundamental truth in opposition to basic denials that underpin everyday life and society? Then this pops up: BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Rom-coms 'spoil your love life' An article saying society has a skewed vision of what relationships can/could or should be, depending on things like Rom Coms, resulting in much less happiness overall. Take that idea, think about Disney movies and the even more impressionable minds of youngsters. Hmmm. Each individual massively influenced by 'News' which almost always centres on spectacular death, 'Entertainment' which focuses on unobtainable/irrational relationships and advertising selling a 'normal' life as failure. Tragic for individuals, chaotic for aggregates of individual behaviour... societies. This then led me to thinking about the enormous pool of memes in which societies swim and how much/how far/whether at all/etc. control over the supply of those memes should be put into effect, for the good of everyone? Everyday, in every way, The Society of the Spectacle seems more relevant. (possibly reposting this video)
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01-30-2009, 10:34 AM | #618 (permalink) | |
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04-16-2009, 01:09 PM | #619 (permalink) | |
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This issue is still not dead.... don't ever think that it is.
I remember working with the research guys..... smart, fun people, but they got it, they really did pave the way for this stuff. Quote:
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01-20-2010, 09:58 AM | #620 (permalink) | |
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I can tell you that I still try to manage how much media I consume a day, and where I consume it from. It's nice to resurrect this thread from time to time...
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01-20-2010, 11:04 AM | #621 (permalink) |
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It's an excellent thread.
I've turned off the television mostly, but this jest caught my eye the other day. This Snow Leopard Has a Naked Lady On It - Snow leopard - Gizmodo |
01-20-2010, 07:03 PM | #622 (permalink) |
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This is Part 1 of a series of vids by Jean Kilbourne. This series and her appearance in the groundbreaking "The Ad and the Ego" are pivotal texts for developing critical thinking and media awareness. YouTube is a great growing resource for this growing consciousness revolution. Given the easy availability of these materials and the growing appreciation of our predicament, educating ourselves about what is happening to us is increasingly possible. That has to be a good thing.
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01-21-2010, 07:38 AM | #623 (permalink) |
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We should discuss these in depth at some point. I'll bring up some stuff later.
OK, that one covers issues of sexism in a fairly straightforward way. To me, it is not a problem for consenting adults. The problem comes in when you raise generations of kids this way. There's a difference. We all like some of what's critiqued here. Not the point. The point is what gets beamed into us when we are young and defenseless to the awesome power of BIG MEDIA. Here's another one that's less academically rigorous, but a great spur to discussion...
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02-28-2010, 09:46 PM | #624 (permalink) |
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Art, have you been taking notice of just how Facebook Fan pages are the stealth advertisement?
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02-28-2010, 11:09 PM | #625 (permalink) |
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Cynthetiq, no doubt. As the third most populous country in the world, Facebook is a world leader in mass media mind control. It does serve as a massive stealth advertising site, in which each user operates a public-relations empire. The fan pages are an adjunct service, which allow for overflow above the 5000-friend limit.
One of the things that interests me most about Facebook is the degree of sexual repression it is able to enforce among its citizens.
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03-25-2010, 10:00 AM | #626 (permalink) |
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In the interest of thoughtful, relevant infotainment, I offer this piece of MMMC for your overall delectation and to further the increased excitation of your sensorium...
http://vimeo.com/10149605 Maybe this could be embedded...
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04-25-2011, 11:22 AM | #627 (permalink) | |
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04-26-2011, 06:14 PM | #628 (permalink) |
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I love well done product placement, especially if it prevents commercials... And no, I don't work for an advertising firm.
I would rather 'see' a product used than be 'told' to use this product. And I like the "How It's Made" type of shows that describe the process of making a product. They usually get their company name in there, but it is a much better advertisement than any 30 second commercial could ever be. |
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05-26-2011, 11:40 AM | #630 (permalink) |
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Yes. It has always saddened me that so many of my good friends - who are quite insightful about other matters - seem to prefer to remain systematically blind to the power of media over their lives and minds. We like to flatter ourselves with nonsense like "I know the difference between real life and a movie" even though we don't actually know, for example, the difference between real life and a movie...
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I occasionally hear people say, "I'm not influenced by advertising" or, "Ads don't influence my decisions." I can't recall anyone ever actually admitting to being influenced by advertising. The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he doesn't exist. Well, the greatest trick the advertising industry ever played was convincing consumers that they are independent decision-makers.
I have studied adverting from a psychological perspective. Marketing departments around the world spend millions of dollars understanding human psychology and how to tap into it. It's even a pretty big research industry in itself finding out the best way to influence children into taking action, whether it's directly or indirectly through parents. There are decades of research. There are decades of trial and error, finding out what makes consumers tick, what makes them buy. Sure consumers get increasingly sophisticated, but so do marketers. There's a ton of money to be made; it's only natural. The wider issue of separating fantasy from reality in the media is another matter entirely.
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05-26-2011, 12:19 PM | #632 (permalink) |
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"I can't recall anyone ever actually admitting to being influenced by advertising." Excellent observation.
As for the difference between what is called "reality" and what is called "media" - this is precisely the issue. In the most significant ways - and the article above describes one of them - we cannot reliably distinguish the difference. This is how we are controlled by what is known as "culture".
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