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03-03-2004, 03:11 AM | #1 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: northamptonshire
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Top[less protest
Protest To Aim At Equal Topless Rights
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Liz Book believes exposed breasts are a part of motorcycle culture, so the Volusia County mother plans to lead a protest of topless women on the last day of Bike Week. Book hopes to lead 1,000 "top-free" women and men along a half-mile of Main Street at noon Sunday. "I never want to see another girl handcuffed and crying in the street because she yanked her top," said Book, 42. "Exposed breasts have been a part of the biker lifestyle for more than 50 years." City officials and police are taking a wait-and-see approach, in part because the city's ordinance allows nudity when it is part of a political protest. "It all depends on their behavior," said Al Tolley, Daytona Beach police spokesman. "The complexion of any protest can change, and it can turn into a lewd act in a heartbeat." Kevin Kilian, a vice president of The Chamber-Daytona Beach and Halifax Area, said his group also is opposed to Book's planned protest. "We as a community make a lot of concessions for our visitors," Kilian said. "It shouldn't be too much to ask that they respect the laws while they're here." The city's nudity ordinance resulted in fines of $253 each for 59 women who exposed their breasts during last year's Bike Week, which attracts tens of thousands of bikers each year from around the nation, according to police records. Book herself was arrested in 1998 when she bared her breasts inside the Full Moon Saloon bar. Women recently have won the right to go top-free in parts of Maine, Vermont and in several provinces of Canada, said Morley Schloss, a retired school administrator who helped decriminalize women's bare breasts in New York in the late 1980s. A group of women in Brevard County, known as the "Topfree 10," have filed a federal lawsuit seeking the right to go shirtless in nonsexual contexts wherever men do. "We're fighting for our rights to do what men do," said Lori Mauldin, a sales clerk at a Daytona Beach T-shirt shop who intends to march in the protest. "If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me." SHe has my support I think most of you will to
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03-03-2004, 04:36 AM | #3 (permalink) | |
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Location: The Netherlands
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But that's just me. I agree with her protest. If women want to do that, go ahead! The way swimsuits are made these days we'd just as well all go naked anyway. (though once again, for preventing public outcry: I won't ) What's so special about a breast? Women examine men's "sixpack" too don't they?
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03-03-2004, 08:22 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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Location: In your local grocer's freezer.
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There's nothing wrong with women going topless. After all, isn't it all just skin? Boobs are boobs, we all need to get over it.
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03-03-2004, 08:57 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Location: Pats country
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I'm always in favor of people's freedom, especially when it comes to clothing removal; half the time though you get the "nudist colony syndrome" where the wrong people are getting naked. JMHO
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03-03-2004, 09:03 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Location: Belgium
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Uh, sorry, if it's against the law, why should bikers get an exception?
I can understand that the people of the town have to make concessions and they have to draw a line somewhere. It's their right, and duty. And besides, it's not just all skin, they are breasts, they are and always will be linked to sexual behaviour between people and as such will cause problems with alot of the population. I agree if it's a protest there's a purpose behind it. But the way this sounds, it's "been a part of biker culture for 50 years"... So what? That makes it legal?
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03-03-2004, 09:51 AM | #10 (permalink) |
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Location: Arizona
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I believe whole heartedly that women should be able to go topless. If men can women should be able to also. Sure I might be saying that because I like cheap thrills, but it's also because its the truth
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03-03-2004, 10:00 AM | #11 (permalink) |
EVIL!
Location: Southwest of nowhere
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Covering up the female breast seeems to be an American phobia and it is getting about time to join the rest of civilization. Topless Tuesday's, every week, all year long. That's my battle cry.
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03-03-2004, 10:21 AM | #13 (permalink) |
Deliberately unfocused
Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby
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There's a lot of coastline to be enjoyed that doesn't fall into Daytona Beach juristdiction. If the city doesn't need the economic influx generated by 10,000 free spending motorcycle riders, let them keep enforcing this lame ordinance.
It's a mobile party. Take it down the shore to somewhere they won't harrass you. Invite me!
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03-03-2004, 10:28 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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Location: Above and Beyond
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I will support her breasts.........lol
I think the US has some of the worst hangups about the human body. We only think baring ones breasts as a lewd act only because our forefather/mothers decided that skin was out and clothing was in. If our nation could only have the mindset of say Brazil, or Spain, or Sweden, then we would see breasts all day long and never have hokey laws that keep women from exposing their skin. Besides, men can do it, so why not women as well?
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03-03-2004, 11:45 AM | #16 (permalink) |
hovering in the distance
Location: the land of milk and honey
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it is only illegal because we as a society, don't know how to control ourselves, we see breasts and freak out with excitement.
get over it, America. free your mind, and the breasts will follow
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03-03-2004, 12:51 PM | #18 (permalink) | |
Insane
Location: Denver, CO
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Re: Top[less protest
What bothers me the most in this article, even more than a general lack of topless women, is this:
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Is sounds like a threat, to me. I'd expect some unnecessarily heavy-handed policing when all this goes down.
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03-03-2004, 06:05 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
Junkie
Location: The Kitchen
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It shouldn't be illegal for a woman to go shirtless, although if I were a woman, I couldn't imagine wanting to expose myself to every drooling perv on the street. |
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03-03-2004, 06:45 PM | #20 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: Ouuuterrrr Spaaaaacccceeee
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Unfortunately, the argument "if men can do it, women can do too" commits an informal fallacy called a weak analogy. The topless body of a male and female are regarded quite differently in our society. To draw an analogy between the two, therefore, is erroneous. Now, don't get me wrong, I totally agree that they should be able to go topless. However, if we want to be logical about this, we should perhaps refine our arguments.
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03-04-2004, 06:34 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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03-04-2004, 12:22 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Yes.
While I have a limited desire to see 'Biker Chick Boobies', I do believe that restrictions on nudity are remnants of our traditionally puritanical culture. I think public nudity is perfectly appropriate in the right places and circumstances. In this case, I would list beaches, public celebrations featuring alcohol, and a 30' ft square of grass in front of my apartment that gets quite a bit of good sun in the summertime.
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03-07-2004, 09:08 PM | #24 (permalink) | |
I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning!
Location: K-Town, TN
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I support the cause of being able to go topless though. I kinda fear the girls who shouldn't go topless will go topless, however.
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03-08-2004, 01:37 PM | #25 (permalink) | |
shit faced cockmaster
Location: CT
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and yes i support it, but not to just check out women's breasts all the time (not that any of you said that at all) but i agree with you guys. men can take their shirts off (even the ones who "shouldn't be") and women should too. it might even lead to less judgement on women's looks and maybe another step towards equality.
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03-09-2004, 01:30 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
Sky Piercer
Location: Ireland
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"Blacks should have rights, as white people have these rights, and we are all humans, and therefore equal" "Weak analogy: Blacks are percieved differently by our society"
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03-09-2004, 05:13 PM | #29 (permalink) |
Curious
Location: NJ (but just for college)
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ok...i guess my answer would be that i support this, but my view on a whole is different than most ppl's here.
Sometimes people say they want to be a goth, or a woman might say she wants to not shave her legs, to prove that society has all these little views and opinions that are baseless. Well that may be true, but wake up! society is all we've got! Humans are social animals...its what sets us apart from the beasts (most of them at least)... its the one thing that helped us to advance so far, and its the one thing that enables us to survive. Without society, humans as a species would have been extinct looong ago. Humans are humans because we live in a society, and because we care about what others think, and act accordingly. Without society's 'stereotypes,' there would be no moral code, no ethics, no laws, etc. A serial killer is making just as much of a protest to society's standards as a topless woman, lets cheer them on! Now i know that sometimes society reaches an equilibrium at a horribly wrong place, like racism towards blacks, and in that case, it is our duty to do somethign about it. I also realize that not everyone can be the same, because we would then lose diversity and life would lose its flavor. I also realize that many people do this stuff to emphasize our right to free speach, and other constitutional rights, rather than to protest society's standards, and i hope that none of these things came across as my point...now that i realize it, maybe my point didnt come across too well, what was my point again? oh yes: society may have some unfair opinions, but the mass's opinions are all we have... and society's checks and balances help us far more than hurt us...you cant have your cake and eat it too kudos to anyone still reading Last edited by Shpoop; 03-09-2004 at 05:16 PM.. |
03-09-2004, 08:47 PM | #31 (permalink) | |
Darth Papa
Location: Yonder
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I have a hard time seeing how biker chicks flashing the goodies has much to do with gender equality. Seems to me like it's more about gender inequality, to tell the truth. So I strongly support these women's cause, not for the political reason they've offered, but because I like tits very very very much. |
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03-10-2004, 09:04 PM | #36 (permalink) |
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Location: LV-426
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I'm kind of tired of all these laws that maintain the fallacy that there is something mysterious about human anatomy, for which reason that said anatomy or parts of it should be covered. Guess I'm just a freak, but what's the big deal...?
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