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almostaugust · 08-25-2003, 04:50 AM

Ive heard that Kazaa filesharing is becoming really dodgy and slow. I was wondering what alternative systems there are.

Shokan · 08-25-2003, 05:14 AM

dodgy and slow? Ive had no problems whatsoever using Kazaa Lite.

kalisto_911 · 08-25-2003, 05:32 AM

well it is kinda dodgy since that network doesn't have a lot of security(I heard) and because it is the largest so that is mainly what the RIAA is targeting atm.
some alts. are

eDonkey/eMule
Direct Connect
Bitorrent

(just use Google to download them)

Ganguro · 08-25-2003, 05:37 AM

depends on what you are looking for, but i heard that if you are looking for copywrited music and movies there are a couple of places you can get the files you need..
like Best Buy, HMV, Circuit City, WalMart, Tower Records, Virgin Megastore..

well.. you see where im going with this

I hear they are much faster than Kazaa and you dont have to worry about mislabeled files or anything like that..

Good Luck!

Coucher · 08-25-2003, 05:53 AM

I've never had good luck with Direct Connect, but I've successfully used eDonkey.

Of course when they kill off all the P2P sharers, you can always go back to the old school where it all started,.....

IRC. Hehe...

Jesus Pimp · 08-25-2003, 06:51 AM

Kazaa is slow as balls. Try bit torrent

Coucher · 08-25-2003, 06:53 AM

I've heard a lot about bit torrent. I'll have to get around to checking that out.

cub4life78 · 08-25-2003, 08:36 AM

Usenet, IRC, and Emule in that order....

txd · 08-25-2003, 08:51 AM

I like eMule for the edonkey network and BT++ for bit torrent

d4in · 08-25-2003, 10:37 AM

use PTC for bittorrent files (Personal Torrent Collector). I think they are on ver 0.7.5.0

phukraut · 08-25-2003, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganguro
I hear they are much faster than Kazaa and you dont have to worry about mislabeled files or anything like that..

i have bought discs with different playlists than was listed on the package or even the disc-label.

AL9045 · 08-25-2003, 11:32 AM

mIRC, WinMX, Shareaza, BitTorrent...etc...etc...

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Me So Horny · 08-25-2003, 05:07 PM

Ares isn't too shabby and suposedly is free of spyware. There, however, isn't quite the user base, but not too shabby.

Mr.Deflok · 08-25-2003, 05:14 PM

eDonkey is nothing but a load of Spyware, I freakin' hate it.... unfortunately it does work well...

Mephisto2 · 08-25-2003, 06:13 PM

You could always buy your CDs, or use iTunes etc, and stop stealing...

Mr Mephisto

burgerdog · 08-26-2003, 12:22 AM

Depends on what you are looking for. Kazaa Lite is decent for porn and popular songs.

feetfirst · 08-26-2003, 01:14 AM

http://www.imesh.com is another, beware of the spyware though.

Marburg · 08-26-2003, 01:29 AM

"You could always buy your CDs, or use iTunes etc, and stop stealing..."
You can use p2p programs for things other then downloading copyrighted music.
Also, if I'm understanding the latest news - it's not stealing if he's in Canada.

TIO · 08-26-2003, 03:47 AM

It's still stealing, Marburg. RIAA just can't ping you for it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganguro
I hear they are much faster than Kazaa and you dont have to worry about mislabeled files or anything like that..

Good Luck!

You do have to worry about EMI copy protection, though.

notslow · 08-26-2003, 05:50 PM

Is it stealing if I let a friend listen to what I have? What if I had paid for something and didn't want it anymore and gave it away? Is it not mine to give? Who decides what I do with what is mine?

GarthInPittsburgh · 08-26-2003, 06:36 PM

BitTorrent is really good for software, not so much the songs.

Mephisto2 · 08-26-2003, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notslow
Is it stealing if I let a friend listen to what I have? What if I had paid for something and didn't want it anymore and gave it away?

It is stealing if you "give" him a digital copy. He can listen to it by coming round your house and listen to you play it on your CD/tape player.

Quote:

Is it not mine to give? Who decides what I do with what is mine?

It's not yours to give away if you haven't paid for it. Is that too complicated for you to understand? If you want to give "it" away, then you have to own "it".

The point here is that is it not yours if you downloaded a copy. And it is NOT yours to make a digital copy to share.

That is illegal.

What is the problem people have with this concept?

Sharing MP3's that are ripped from CDs is illegal. It is theft. It is stealing. Now if you can accept that and have no ethical qualms about being a thief, then go ahead. But don't get all prissy and defensive when it is pointed out. This kind of childish behaviour annoys me. Soon someone will start squealing how "if CDs were cheaper then we wouldn't have to download MP3s.." or some such nonesense.

Hell, I can't afford a BMW, but I'm not going to go out and steal one.

Just because you don't like a law does not mean you are above it. If you are a thief at least admit it.

Mr Mephisto

clockworkgreen · 08-26-2003, 09:10 PM

Blah blah blah. Go moralize in another thread.

poknatcha · 08-26-2003, 09:41 PM

A good free p2p program is soulseek. You can find a lot of not-so-popular mp3s on there.

dtheriault · 08-26-2003, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
[B]It is stealing if you "give" him a digital copy. He can listen to it by coming round your house and listen to you play it on your CD/tape player.

The music industry is completely wrong on this issue. And i hate stealing with a passion.

When i was a teen we used to make copies of a bands tapes and give them to a friend to listen to. sometimes there would be even 3 or 4 bands to a single tape.

at least half of the bands that i currently listen to i started liking by listening to a free tape.

then i went a bought the groups, tapes, records, i went to concerts bought tshirst, posters, videos etc...

i must have spent over 500$ just on metallica alone. all because someone gave me a tape with some songs from kill em all.

it's called building a fan base.

they should thank all the file sharers.

the ones they should really be going after are the pirates who continue to charge 15 for a CD.

Mr.Deflok · 08-27-2003, 12:45 AM

I agree with Mesphisto to a certain extent but sharing MP3's can be a good thing, produces publicity, however when this opportunity falls into the wrong hands ie those who have no intention of spending money beyong their internet connection and blank CD's it becomes a terrible thing.

I've downloaded quite a few MP3's and Movies in my time but most of these illegal downloads have built my collection of more than 1000 CD's and more than 300 DVD's and a little less than 100 VHS tapes, and I have spent god knows how many thousands of dollars on merchandise. I'm a great example of fil-sharing gone right.

A growing majority of people however abuse this priviledge.

The chances are no-one will read my post so I'll take this time to say something no-one will read BIGIDA BOOGADA BEE BEE BOM LOMNODON!!

There, I'm done.

neoinoakleys · 08-27-2003, 10:18 AM

DO NOT USE EarthStation5...

See this post for more info....

LINK HERE

marcopolo · 08-27-2003, 01:11 PM

I like WinMx and ...

I think the RIAA should fuck themselves. They are the rich trying to get richer by going after college students. I mean the real issue that caused this mess isn't pirating at all. It's the fact that CD prices never went down (and still haven't). It costs about $.40 to make a cd yourself (given you have internet access and file swapping software). The RIAA expects you to pay $15.00 that's and insane difference. Well here's what I don't get.......Why is it not illegal to have a 2 deck tape player/recorder? I mean hell I made hundreds of copies of tapes and cds back in the 80s. I don't remember anyone getting arrested for copying an old motley crue tape.Another thing a lot of people don't realize is that musicains make a lot more money from tours than they do albums. Basically these lawsuits are to insure that the rich RIAA execitives can get that summer home or the second Bently. They fixed the prices of CDs and created this mess. I think that they made their bed and now they should sleep in it. I mean shit isn't the very nature of VCRs and TiVo to copy copyrighted material. No one is sellng this stuff....it's free.

And yea , I also use Usenet .

08-25-2003, 04:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Alternatives to Kazaa Ive heard that Kazaa filesharing is becoming really dodgy and slow. I was wondering what alternative systems there are.

08-25-2003, 05:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Shokan Addict Location: Canada	dodgy and slow? Ive had no problems whatsoever using Kazaa Lite. __________________ Legalize it.

08-25-2003, 05:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
kalisto_911 Psycho Location: Dreams	well it is kinda dodgy since that network doesn't have a lot of security(I heard) and because it is the largest so that is mainly what the RIAA is targeting atm. some alts. are eDonkey/eMule Direct Connect Bitorrent (just use Google to download them) __________________ I know not how I may seem to others, but to myself I am but a small child wandering upon the vast shores of knowledge, every now and then finding a small bright pebble to content myself with. [Plato]

08-25-2003, 05:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Coucher Tilted	I've never had good luck with Direct Connect, but I've successfully used eDonkey. Of course when they kill off all the P2P sharers, you can always go back to the old school where it all started,..... IRC. Hehe... __________________ I use to have a problem finishing things I started, but now I....

08-25-2003, 06:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	Kazaa is slow as balls. Try bit torrent __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

08-25-2003, 05:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	depends on what you are looking for, but i heard that if you are looking for copywrited music and movies there are a couple of places you can get the files you need.. like Best Buy, HMV, Circuit City, WalMart, Tower Records, Virgin Megastore.. well.. you see where im going with this I hear they are much faster than Kazaa and you dont have to worry about mislabeled files or anything like that.. Good Luck!

08-25-2003, 06:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
Coucher Tilted	I've heard a lot about bit torrent. I'll have to get around to checking that out. __________________ I use to have a problem finishing things I started, but now I....

08-25-2003, 08:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
cub4life78 Insane Location: Kansas	Usenet, IRC, and Emule in that order....

08-25-2003, 08:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
txd Addict	I like eMule for the edonkey network and BT++ for bit torrent

08-25-2003, 10:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
d4in Computer Nerd Location: Bishop, TX	use PTC for bittorrent files (Personal Torrent Collector). I think they are on ver 0.7.5.0 __________________ I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants. -- A. Whitney Brown

08-25-2003, 11:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	mIRC, WinMX, Shareaza, BitTorrent...etc...etc....

08-25-2003, 05:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Me So Horny Tilted	Ares isn't too shabby and suposedly is free of spyware. There, however, isn't quite the user base, but not too shabby.

08-25-2003, 05:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	eDonkey is nothing but a load of Spyware, I freakin' hate it.... unfortunately it does work well...

08-25-2003, 06:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	You could always buy your CDs, or use iTunes etc, and stop stealing... Mr Mephisto

08-26-2003, 12:22 AM	#16 (permalink)
burgerdog Tilted Location: All Under Heaven	Depends on what you are looking for. Kazaa Lite is decent for porn and popular songs.

08-26-2003, 01:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
feetfirst Upright	http://www.imesh.com is another, beware of the spyware though.

08-26-2003, 01:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
Marburg Crazy Location: Nova Scotia, Canada	"You could always buy your CDs, or use iTunes etc, and stop stealing..." You can use p2p programs for things other then downloading copyrighted music. Also, if I'm understanding the latest news - it's not stealing if he's in Canada. __________________ Ask a simple question... get pain.

08-26-2003, 05:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
notslow Upright	Is it stealing if I let a friend listen to what I have? What if I had paid for something and didn't want it anymore and gave it away? Is it not mine to give? Who decides what I do with what is mine?

08-26-2003, 06:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
GarthInPittsburgh Crazy	BitTorrent is really good for software, not so much the songs. __________________ i was going to call 911, but I was downloading a file

08-26-2003, 09:10 PM	#23 (permalink)
clockworkgreen Psycho Location: DC	Blah blah blah. Go moralize in another thread.

08-26-2003, 09:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
poknatcha Upright Location: Nebraska	A good free p2p program is soulseek. You can find a lot of not-so-popular mp3s on there.

08-27-2003, 12:45 AM	#26 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	I agree with Mesphisto to a certain extent but sharing MP3's can be a good thing, produces publicity, however when this opportunity falls into the wrong hands ie those who have no intention of spending money beyong their internet connection and blank CD's it becomes a terrible thing. I've downloaded quite a few MP3's and Movies in my time but most of these illegal downloads have built my collection of more than 1000 CD's and more than 300 DVD's and a little less than 100 VHS tapes, and I have spent god knows how many thousands of dollars on merchandise. I'm a great example of fil-sharing gone right. A growing majority of people however abuse this priviledge. The chances are no-one will read my post so I'll take this time to say something no-one will read BIGIDA BOOGADA BEE BEE BOM LOMNODON!! There, I'm done.

08-27-2003, 10:18 AM	#27 (permalink)
neoinoakleys Psycho Location: Michigan	DO NOT USE EarthStation5... See this post for more info.... LINK HERE __________________ It's My Duty to Please That Booty!!

08-27-2003, 01:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
marcopolo I am the anomaly. Location: Motown	I like WinMx and ... I think the RIAA should fuck themselves. They are the rich trying to get richer by going after college students. I mean the real issue that caused this mess isn't pirating at all. It's the fact that CD prices never went down (and still haven't). It costs about $.40 to make a cd yourself (given you have internet access and file swapping software). The RIAA expects you to pay $15.00 that's and insane difference. Well here's what I don't get.......Why is it not illegal to have a 2 deck tape player/recorder? I mean hell I made hundreds of copies of tapes and cds back in the 80s. I don't remember anyone getting arrested for copying an old motley crue tape.Another thing a lot of people don't realize is that musicains make a lot more money from tours than they do albums. Basically these lawsuits are to insure that the rich RIAA execitives can get that summer home or the second Bently. They fixed the prices of CDs and created this mess. I think that they made their bed and now they should sleep in it. I mean shit isn't the very nature of VCRs and TiVo to copy copyrighted material. No one is sellng this stuff....it's free. And yea , I also use Usenet . __________________ Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.