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Old 04-12-2006, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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computer poops

well I can tell my computer is going to the poops now.
It is an old computer and has seen alot of action.
its a p3 733 was top-of-the-line when I first built it.
its constantly freezing for short periods of time and then just keepin on truckin...
everything runs slow now...
basically I can only have 1 prog open @ a time.

I really dont have any money to upgrade it, but I was wondering how I could fix it.
I dont really want to format it, because i have alot of music and sport high light vids on here that I would be sad to see go.
is there anyway i can somehow save those files w/ a defrag?

thanks any help is VERY appreciatted!!!!
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Old 04-12-2006, 09:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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burn what you want to keep to CD and then reformat. Otherwise, go buy a new hard drive - they're cheap as hell - and install windows on it.
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Old 04-13-2006, 07:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Find yourself a copy of partition magic, create a partition and copy your music/videos to it, and format the primary windows partition. This allows you to get a fresh install of windows without losing your data. It could likely also be fixed by running a few tweak programs, such as TweakUI, to take the fancy things out of windows. Likewise, get yourself a good antispyware and antiadware program like Spybot or Lavasoft's Adaware. They're the most likely culprits for sudden computer slowdown, especially on a low-end system like yours. Furthermore, make sure that Windows is fully updated and that you're using a safe browser, such as Firefox or Opera. Remember that IE hasn't been truly updated in an ungodly amount of years, and is still plagued with vulnerabilities.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I advise defragmentation before partitioning.

I disagree with the notion that it's spyware. Obviously this is a very old system and I think a P3-733 means it's time to upgrade.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Unless he's running high end multimedia applications or gaming, a p3 733 Mhz is absolutely fine for the general user. Word processing, internet browsing, etc etc.. they're not high-end tasks. Ask any Linux user and you'll be surprised at how shitty their system can be and still work just fine -- if it's a sudden decrease in performance, I can almost guarantee that spyware or adware is at fault.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Err, if he were running Linux, he wouldn't be having spyware problems?

AFAIK a p3-733 was top of the line in the early win98 years .... that's pretty old.
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Old 04-13-2006, 10:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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As cheap as computer systems are.. you shouldn't have issues upgrading completely.
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I always have spybot and avasti virus running. I use winxp firewall.
It wasnt really a sudden loss of speed, it has been happening for years now I guess. Im just now getting totally PO w/ it.
All I use my CPU for is internet, Word, and Winamp.

I used to get thin green lines going down my screen when I play videos. I still get them, but i now also get them basically everywhere. It really makes my cpu look like crap.

I will say that I am using my 46" HDTV as my montior, running w/ s-vid.

full cpu stats:
p3 733
256 ram
asus mobo.
18 gig scsi HD (~16 gigs used)
nvidia geforce 5200
I have 3 cd roms (one scsi 52x cd rom, 1 8x scsi cd-re, and one normal dvd player) - are these, having more than one affecting my performance?
2NIC cards, and 1 wireless card.
SB live sound card
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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no one said it, but GET SOME RAM.

256MB is weak especially if you are using WinXP.

you say you are up on the spyware and AV, then just browse around for some ram at MINIMUM I would say bump it up another 512 to put you at 768 if possible go with a gig see if that helps you.
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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There is no noticeable difference in Windows XP on a 700 MHz than on a 3 GHz PC if you have 512 MB of RAM or more. The hardware is not the problem unless the CPU or RAM is actually malfunctioning. I used to have XP installed on a 400 MHz CPU with 256 MB of RAM and it ran just as fast as my Athlon 64 in Windows. It sounds like years of program installations that is slowing it down. I know you said you didn't want to format, but if you can back up your files on CD, another HDD, or anything really, formatting is definitely the best option. I just put Windows XP on an identical system last week and it runs easily as fast as my Athlon 64 in Windows. You just need a fresh installation.
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MontanaXVI
no one said it, but GET SOME RAM.

256MB is weak especially if you are using WinXP.
QFE. I can't deny what Lasereth said, but I can at least tell you that getting RAM is a good idea
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Old 04-13-2006, 02:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I won't deny 256MB is on the low side, but it won't cause a healthy system to unravel. How old is the XP install? Old installs without maintenance will have a real horror show of a registry which eventually hurts performance and stability.

Do you have any registry cleanup utilities? JV Powertools does a good job. Install the eval version, safe boot, let it fix what it can and then use NTRegOpt to compact what remains. Can't guarantee miracles but if it helps, great. If not it was cheap (free).

It might help to post a hijackthis report so we know more about what's taking up those MB/MHz.

Whatever is going on, formatting isn't necessary. Even if you decide a new install is necessary you can do that in your existing partition without affecting your music files. The worst case is that you have to reinstall applications and spend a day reorganizing.
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Old 04-13-2006, 03:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm running on a p3-733. I have 10 windows open including a P2P one and Outlook. There's an anti-virus scan running now.

It's been over 6months since I did a partial defrag. I'm not having any problems...
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Old 04-13-2006, 03:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Your machine is fine spec wise. I have the same, and run Oracle 10, SQL Server etc etc. Everything but the latest games.

But...your software sounds very sick.

Are you computer literate or willing to learn? If not, the suggestion of re-installing, by whichever method, seems a good one.

Otherwise....

It's not really necessary, but it makes a cleanup easier if you remove programs that you don't use. Extra programs don't really slow the computer, but they sure increase your job. And of course.. the less software your have - the faster a scan (virus etc) is.

Next. Get a current antivirus program.

Next. Get two or more anti-spyware programs. I use Spybot Search and Destroy (free), although it seems to have a very bad detection algorithm speed-wise. It runs slow if you have a lot under "my documents". I've heard that Spyware Doctor (?) is good. AdWare might be ok, it used to be the leader....

Now, get something that allows you to see which processes run on startup.

Now... boot to safe mode. Log-in as admin and check for rogue startup processes. Do the same with all other accounts.

Now run spyware searches.. For each accounts.

Now run anti-virus.

Now (optionally) boot to normal mode and defrag.
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Old 04-13-2006, 04:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Registry cleaning is certainly a start, Cyrnel.

I vote for CrapCleaner
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Old 04-13-2006, 05:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Aye Mike, I do like CC very much, but I don't use it for registry cleaning. I've had too many false hits used on bunches of systems. jv16 powertools gets an IQ assist from their server and seems to have a better fix:headache ratio. Not that they're the only goodie, just they're a pretty safe, quick & easy cleanup. That and compacting the empty spots can help an old dog more than a disk defrag, especially with regards to stability. (That's my own sweeping generalization, and I'm sticking to it.)
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Old 04-13-2006, 06:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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But that costs money!
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Old 04-13-2006, 07:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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JV has a 30-day eval period. Tons of other HD registry cleaners, too. CC is quick & beautiful for file cleanup, but I just use its reg scan to tell me about general state & if things are getting sketchy. It's not as if CC reg cleaning is some monster but it has bitten me on a small percentage of systems. The fear of another hour on a box can make a guy cautious.
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Old 04-14-2006, 09:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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ok thanks everyone for the replies!!!
I went ahead and got the JV program.
I ran it (reg cleaner) I had SOO MANY errors. I just went ahead and had the prog remove them all.
I also had the prog uninstall alot of programs that i no longer need and also clean out my temp folder etc...
my cpu still sometimes, will pause for a few seconds... I just remembered that whenever my cpu does freeze, when it kicks back in, it beeps.???
also most pictures & videos have green lines going down them still. Its weird b/c my graphics card is the newest thing in my computer...
I do know that it is set up as agp 2x instead of 4x. I dont know why this is, or how it got 2 be like this. how can i fix that?
I have tried many different drivers already..
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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In rapid order I'd look for any exclamations in device manager, a quick rootkit and virus scan. I didn't see you mention what you use so try <a href="http://www.f-secure.com/blacklight/try.shtml">blacklight</a> and <a href="http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.html">bitdefender 8 on demand</a> respectively. Both are free. Of course there are many AV alternatives but bitdefender is quite good at repairing in case you turn something up.

Then run <a href="http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3155.html">hijackthis</a>. Use "run a system scan and save a log file." Paste it here.

As for the green lines, sounds like it could be a video overlay problem.
What media types are affected (at least list the extensions)? Just video or jpgs & gifs too?
What programs are you using when you see them?
Are the lines limited to the media area or do they affect the entire screen?
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Old 04-15-2006, 05:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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No idea if you have done it or what but you may want to open the computer up and take a can of compressed air and clean out the dust thats been building up for the last 5 years. Dust built up on the fans and heat sinks can cause it to heat up alot more then it should and heat=evil. Might not help your problem at all but its basic computer maitnance that everyone should do and it cant hurt and it might even help.
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Old 04-15-2006, 12:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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i ran hijackthis. This is my log file... I hope this is safe for me to post.

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 2:10:56 PM, on 15/04/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Keyboard\type32.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Mouse\point32.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpohmr08.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpotdd01.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpoevm08.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ups.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Bin\hpoSTS08.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\devldr32.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\WinAce\WinAce.exe
C:\Program Files\WinAce\WinAce.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\J\Local Settings\Temp\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,SearchAssistant = about:blank
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = about:blank
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SafeGuard Protect PCShield - {564FFB73-9EEF-4969-92FA-5FC4A92E2C2A} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {66A975DB-B111-4537-A537-CD741DE9B103} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\cjmdind.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {6CDF3C49-20E6-48d7-811B-9F5DD17F1D90} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: ST - {9394EDE7-C8B5-483E-8773-474BF36AF6E4} - C:\Program Files\MSN Apps\ST\01.03.0000.1005\en-xu\stmain.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - (no file)
O3 - Toolbar: MSN - {BDAD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - C:\Program Files\MSN Apps\MSN Toolbar\01.02.4000.1001\en-ca\msntb.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IntelliType] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Keyboard\type32.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [POINTER] point32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RecoverFromReboot] C:\WINDOWS\Temp\RecoverFromReboot.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCShield] regsvr32 /s "C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PCShield] regsvr32 /s "C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVMCTRAY.DLL,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - Global Startup: hp psc 1000 series.lnk = ?
O4 - Global Startup: hpoddt01.exe.lnk = ?
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: ConferenceRoom Java Client -
O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX Control) -
O16 - DPF: {197AB1D7-A7DD-4C86-A938-1FCC0DB21B85} -
O16 - DPF: {19E28AFC-EAE3-4CE5-AC83-2407B42F57C9} (MSSecurityAdvisor Class) -
O16 - DPF: {75D1F3B2-2A21-11D7-97B9-0010DC2A6243} -
O16 - DPF: {917623D1-D8E5-11D2-BE8B-00104B06BDE3} (CamImage Class) -
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -
O16 - DPF: {F58E1CEF-A068-4C15-BA5E-587CAF3EE8C6} -
O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - "C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\msgrapp.dll" (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\System32\HPZipm12.exe
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:37 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Posting the log is safe. It tells us a bit about what's running and set to run at boot. If you posted your IP address or identity it mght help a bad guy break into something that's weak, but the log itself is anonymous.

Uninstall SafeGuard products. Popup Blocker, Content Cleaner, Spyware Guard, Spam Guard. Not that they really uninstall themselves...

Run Hijackthis again, scan only, check and fix the PCShield stuff:
O2 - BHO: SafeGuard Protect PCShield - {564FFB73-9EEF-4969-92FA-5FC4A92E2C2A} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCShield] regsvr32 /s "C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PCShield] regsvr32 /s "C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll"

The beep could be something that's trying to happen (pop-up or ...) dying because something else thinks it's protecting you. A dying gasp or alert. Even protection software fighting amongst themselves. Can be tough to uncover. Can you think of anything common among when it happens? Specific programs you're using, times (of day or per hour), etc.?

With 256MB I would switch from Avast to AVG. At least shut down any Avast providers you don't need. (P2P, IM, etc.) Not a huge impact but it could free up 20MB.

Green lines: I read your reports again. It does sound like an overlay problem, except you say it can happen everywhere and affects stills as well as video. When you installed the drivers did you uninstall the previous version and reboot first? Video drivers are notorious for having problems with old versions of drivers and settings. Unstall, reboot, check for remaining video remnants, repeat, then install a new copy.
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Old 04-15-2006, 08:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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alright, well I again tried new drivers....
first one I just went to nvidias site and d/l the newest one...
those made the screen even worse.
thenI did a lil google search and found out the 66.93 are the best for my card so I d/l them. again worse, but bareable. my comp continually feezes for a while now, it is more like lag though, as it just sort of pauses then the screen flases and go alright again.
so i think my problem is graphics card related 100%.
I think im going to go buy a new card and ram.
I dont really have any $$, but it seems neccesary.
What is the best card and cheapestt that offers tv-out?
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:55 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Those "no file" and "file missing" cases look like hijacks to virii to me - that have been removed (the file).... however they are still being called.

I'm no expert, but I'd try disabling those lines. After all, if the file is not there - it will not be running.
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Old 04-16-2006, 02:32 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Did you get rid of that SafeGuard stuff? Nimetic's right about the orphans. Run Powertools again and it should take care of them.

As for the video, I'm not sure I'm reading the problem correctly, but if you're getting the same problem (lines) now with the 5200 as you did before then there's something else wrong. Plaid mentioned cooling. Have you opened it up to make sure fans are spinning and heatsinks clean?

Before buying another card, remember you can buy a board/cpu/512MB combo with video for ~$120. With your 5200 (if it's okay) it'd make for a nice setup again.
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Old 04-16-2006, 10:13 AM   #27 (permalink)
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i didnt understand that....
i should uninstall my spybot S&D, adaware, and avasti antivirus?
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Old 04-16-2006, 10:31 AM   #28 (permalink)
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No, just the PCShield programs. Uninstall any of the four names I listed that you can find (exact names). Then check/fix the three lines from Hijackthis.
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Old 04-16-2006, 04:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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alright, i didnt even know I had those things installed...
i uninstalled them, aswell as a few things that i figured i didnt need.
I did another run

here is my new log:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 6:33:21 PM, on 16/04/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Keyboard\type32.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Mouse\point32.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\anvshell.exe
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpohmr08.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpotdd01.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ups.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpoevm08.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Bin\hpoSTS08.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\devldr32.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\J\Desktop\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,SearchAssistant = about:blank
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = about:blank
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SafeGuard Protect PCShield - {564FFB73-9EEF-4969-92FA-5FC4A92E2C2A} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\sfg_24f4.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {66A975DB-B111-4537-A537-CD741DE9B103} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\cjmdind.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {6CDF3C49-20E6-48d7-811B-9F5DD17F1D90} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - (no file)
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IntelliType] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Keyboard\type32.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [POINTER] point32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RecoverFromReboot] C:\WINDOWS\Temp\RecoverFromReboot.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [anvshell] anvshell.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LiveNote] livenote.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - Global Startup: hp psc 1000 series.lnk = ?
O4 - Global Startup: hpoddt01.exe.lnk = ?
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: ConferenceRoom Java Client -
O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX Control) -
O16 - DPF: {197AB1D7-A7DD-4C86-A938-1FCC0DB21B85} -
O16 - DPF: {19E28AFC-EAE3-4CE5-AC83-2407B42F57C9} (MSSecurityAdvisor Class) -
O16 - DPF: {75D1F3B2-2A21-11D7-97B9-0010DC2A6243} -
O16 - DPF: {917623D1-D8E5-11D2-BE8B-00104B06BDE3} (CamImage Class) -
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -
O16 - DPF: {F58E1CEF-A068-4C15-BA5E-587CAF3EE8C6} -
O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - "C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\msgrapp.dll" (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: ASUS Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\System32\HPZipm12.exe

BTW: im actually on the video drivers from my cd now, they still have the lines. sometimes they are not just green, it's like a bunch of black tiny dots down the screen. sometimes it goes down the whole screen, sometimes, just one certain parts (titlebar, enter buttons on websites... etc...
everytime i install new ones I uninstall, restart, then install...

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Old 04-16-2006, 04:53 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Looks like you got two of the three. This one's still there:

O2 - BHO: SafeGuard Protect PCShield - {564FFB73-9EEF...

Of course, let us know if it's refusing to be fixed.

Run Powertools' reg cleaner again afterwards.
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Old 04-16-2006, 05:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Temporary_User
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BTW: im actually on the video drivers from my cd now, they still have the lines. sometimes they are not just green, it's like a bunch of black tiny dots down the screen. sometimes it goes down the whole screen, sometimes, just one certain parts (titlebar, enter buttons on websites... etc...
everytime i install new ones I uninstall, restart, then install...
That sounds like a DirectDraw problem or memory issue, or BIOS setting, or even overheating. You said the video problems were similar before your 5200, right?

Go to Start->Run...
Enter dxdiag and hit enter.

A DirectX diagnostic window will open. Switch to the Display tab. Disable all acceleration. Exit the tool and see if the problems change.

BTW, which Asus motherboard do you have?
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i believe it is an asus p3v4x
I never had the problems before I got the geforce fx 5200.. I might of confused you w/ that, b/c i said that this is the newest piece of hardware that I have. The card is 2-3 years old though.
I did the direct draw disable, thing and unless im supposed to restart my comp. things are still messed with them..
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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oh and you mentioned bios, b/c im having problems w/ that too. when my computer first boots up and it does the RAM check, boots up my SCSI devices etc... the screen is all scrambled. It seems like everytime the computer boots up a different character will show all over the screen w/ just a few gaps where it isnt.
sometimes this character will be something crazy or just a normal J or something.
it doesnt really bother me.

I believe that this started before the other screen problems. however, Ive been dealing w/ this all for so long now, that i really cant remember.
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Old 04-16-2006, 08:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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That's not a good symptom. Did you ever update the MB BIOS? That board is old enough to have issues with newer AGP cards. If nothing else I'd load safe defaults and see if affects your video problems.
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Old 04-16-2006, 08:11 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I can't get to ASUS' download area right now but see it uses a VIA chipset. Check if fast writes are enabled. Disable if so.
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Old 04-16-2006, 08:13 PM   #36 (permalink)
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im unsure how to load the safe defaults.
fastwrites is and always has been disabled.
it is hard to read what the bios say, like i said it is all scrambled.
I went ahead and opened up my computer and took some canned air to it (it wasnt dusty in there though).

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Old 04-16-2006, 08:15 PM   #37 (permalink)
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oh and i cant seem to get rid of those damn things!!!
EDIT: it has to be those damn things that is making my computer run so slow, it seemed like to took forever for my computer to start up and then open firefox this time.
here is my latest hijackthis:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 10:09:36 PM, on 16/04/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\savedump.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ups.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Keyboard\type32.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Mouse\point32.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\anvshell.exe
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpohmr08.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpotdd01.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpoevm08.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Bin\hpoSTS08.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\J\Desktop\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,SearchAssistant = about:blank
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = about:blank
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {66A975DB-B111-4537-A537-CD741DE9B103} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {6CDF3C49-20E6-48d7-811B-9F5DD17F1D90} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - (no file)
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IntelliType] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Keyboard\type32.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [POINTER] point32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RecoverFromReboot] C:\WINDOWS\Temp\RecoverFromReboot.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [anvshell] anvshell.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LiveNote] livenote.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - Global Startup: hp psc 1000 series.lnk = ?
O4 - Global Startup: hpoddt01.exe.lnk = ?
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: ConferenceRoom Java Client -
O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX Control) -
O16 - DPF: {197AB1D7-A7DD-4C86-A938-1FCC0DB21B85} -
O16 - DPF: {19E28AFC-EAE3-4CE5-AC83-2407B42F57C9} (MSSecurityAdvisor Class) -
O16 - DPF: {75D1F3B2-2A21-11D7-97B9-0010DC2A6243} -
O16 - DPF: {917623D1-D8E5-11D2-BE8B-00104B06BDE3} (CamImage Class) -
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -
O16 - DPF: {F58E1CEF-A068-4C15-BA5E-587CAF3EE8C6} -
O18 - Protocol: msnim - {828030A1-22C1-4009-854F-8E305202313F} - "C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~1\msgrapp.dll" (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: ASUS Driver Helper Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\System32\HPZipm12.exe

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Old 04-17-2006, 03:03 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I'm blind but it looks like you removed the PCShield junk. What do you see?

The "safe defaults" option is generally obvious, at the top screen or first menu level. Look for factory defaults or similar. It wasn't as standard in every BIOS of that era.

Can't say why things would be slower. Is it consistently slower? (Wait for booting to complete before running apps.) You might just be getting faster.

I'd still update the MB BIOS if you haven't in the last year or two. A 2000 VIA chipset and BIOS is very moldy. You don't need to see much to do it.

Other than the BIOS update and settings there aren't many options remaining. Seeing as Monday is fast approaching, my final act of desperation would be a parallel install of windows. (another folder or another partition) Then, if the video problem remains, it's time to beg or borrow another card. If you have to buy something consider moving to a new board/cpu combo for some headroom. Don't give up yet, I'm just mentioning this stuff in case I have to sign off for awhile.
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Old 04-20-2006, 08:46 AM   #39 (permalink)
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well, I thought 02 was a problem. it isnt the PCSHIELD though, im mistaken.

How exactly do I go about updating my BIOS?
w/ graphics i would d/l new ones. delete old and then install new ones.
thanks!
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Old 04-25-2006, 01:57 PM   #40 (permalink)
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hmm, updating my BIOS seems too much for me.
I found out I would have to put in a floppy and copy the correct thing onto it, then install from DOS.
Im really starting to believe that my computer is just too old and about to die.
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