Destrox

I'm just going to continue to sit back quietly, and let all those out there who have no idea just how scary CLE can be. Our offense is still heating up, we have depth, we have starters and one more comming back.

We could use an additional bullpen, but who couldnt?

I often smile when we get to that 2 out mark, for that just seems to ignite our bats.

Been a tribe fan all my life just about and I've seen ups and downs. This year is definitly one of those ups that we havnt seen in a while.

By all means, you all can keep pretending the Indians are nothing special. We'll just give you a mop for all those tears you'll be crying when we leave you behind.

Tigers fans, ggs! If you would have some of your pitchers off the DL it might have been a 2/3 or even 1/3 in your home park. But thats baseball ya know?

For you BoSox fans out there who dont have the similar Yankee-ego, good luck over the next 3 days. Both of our teams will be needing it. These games are going to rock! (Go easy on Sowers okay? hehe )

That and ESPN can suck a donkeys dick. I miss old Baseball Tonight, now its BoSox & Yankees Tonight. I dont ask for major CLE coverage, I ask for fair and intelligent coverage.

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Ilow

Who's pretending the indians are nothing special? Their lineup is pretty much the same as Boston's as far as working counts and wearing pitchers out and they have plenty of power. Their pitching is decent, but maybe not quite on the Red Sox level. I think they will probably win the central and once you're in the playoffs anything can happen (even a senior circuit team winning the world series!). The Sox just got exceptional pitching from their starters the last two days, but they also did have their best hitter sitting both games too. Never thought you'd be cursing Kevin Youk did you?

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I'm pretending the Indians are nothing special. I think they are just a flash in the pan. I really don't see them maintaining consistency after the break. I could be wrong, and the only reason I hope so is because I'd like to see Trot on a good winning team. Clevland's hitters aren't even close to the caliber of the Bo'Sox hitters in my biased opinion. The pitching, well that's an obvious one. Of course, it's all about staying healthy.

Destrox, you're right so far.. these games have been fun

Kadath

I think you're right about the quality of hitters on Cleveland being lower than those of Boston, gucci. And I think that probably has something to do with the Red Sox payroll being double that of the Indians. A small market team like Cleveland can't afford to keep a lunatic like Manny on forever; we simply don't have the dollars to pay one guy a third of our total payroll. But what that means is you guys can't complain about the Yankees payroll anymore. You're part of the evil empire now.

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Why can't you afford it? If the jake is such a great ballpark and the team is doing well, then your upper management isn't doing a good enough job to get the revenue in; or isn't willing to spend the money.

Fuck the yankees and the evil empire. They're still 50+million over Boston's payroll and they are shit. I don't think it matters when it comes down to dollars, it's how you actually manage the funds you have. While Cleveland has added some good kids.. the management needs to up the ante a bit and add 1 or 2 more players that could have a serious season impact.

Either way, it's not like I have the chance to gloat that often .. so let me have my fun

Kadath

Here's why we can't afford it: When was the last time the Fen didn't sell out? How many people are there walking around with Sox gear in cities other than Boston?

Now ask the same question about the Jake and Indians gear. Cleveland isn't full up of rich people who can afford season tickets. The nation didn't jump on the Indians bandwagon like people did on the Sox. Crying about the curse for 80 god damn years made you jerks seem likeable for some stupid reason, and then you won after a decade of huge payroll and people acted like you were underdogs or something. You're right, Yankee payroll is 50 million more than yours. But yours is 60 million more than ours, so I think I get to hate you even more than you hate the Yankees.

Now, no hard feelings. I have family and friends in Boston, so I hear this stuff all the time. And I'll tell you: Fenway is a great park, and I love going to games there, and I like the Red Sox. But I like the Tribe more.

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Hey, it's not our fault your management team can't market correctly. Boston has done a great job marketing. Why wouldn't you sell out?? You think Boston is full of rich people?? C'mon.. you can't be serious with that. I remember back in the 90's people were wearing Indians gear like it was going out of style around here... what happened? Your marketing team let you down.. just like your ball team does the same thing year after year.

I never cried about a curse. That was the dumb ass media that did that shit. I never put any stock into it.. not one ounce. So instead of us crying about a "curse", you're crying that you don't get the attention or marketing. Maybe if Cleveland would jump into the japanese market that would change a bit.

No wait, maybe if Cleveland changed the whole upper management and put people with money and the brains to use it in office, you'd see a change. Boo hoo our payroll is $60 million more. Guess you don't remember the puny Marlin's and their puny payroll winning it all. The fact is this, win it all and the Jake would still not sell out a whole season.. perhaps, us Bo'Sox fans just love baseball more?

You can try and hate me more than I hate the skanks.. but that won't happen. I've even said that if my son ever cheered for the skanks or became a fan.. he'd be kicked out of the house. No questions asked. How's that for hate??

Kadath

I do remember 1997, for obvious reasons. I also think I remember the Marlins turning around the year after that and selling the entire team and saying they had lost a ton of money winning the World Series.

You are free to keep thinking you know it all and are entitled to the popularity the Red Sox enjoy; that is very typical of a Boston fan. Watch ESPN sometime and see which two teams get more coverage. Think about the fact that Bristol, Connecticut is situated about halfway between NYC and Boston and the impact that ESPN has on sports across the country.

And I'm not crying we don't have the money. My guys keep putting together solid teams for about half the cost your guys do. They're building slowly, because they couldn't maintain the spending of the 90s. I'm just discouraging you from bragging about your hitters; you've got the money to buy Manny and Ortiz. Cleveland has the 8th lowest salary in baseball and the third best record. That's using money and brains, my friend.

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Let's not deny there is a difference between small markets and big markets. We know Kansas City isn't going to field a good team.. ever.

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Oi man, I don't know it all.. never claimed to. I'm just saying that if you're complaining that the Jake can't sell out and the payroll is so small, then the management should look at how Boston makes so much money on merchandise sales etc.

I've been a Bo'Sox fan for who knows how long.. since birth I guess and have had to endure some rotten seasons, shitty GM's and rotten teams. Every team goes through it.

Your management may build solid teams with half the money but they obviously haven't fielded a Series winning team with that money. Granted it took the Sox forever to do it but hell.. they did it.

ESPN is bullshit in their coverage.. they talk about the skankees constantly .. I understand where you're coming from in that. However, take ESPN's coverage of the skanks and Red Sox, and you'd still see them make a killing in merchandise sales. That's just how it is right now. I can remember being made fun of for wearing a Boston cap.. now, I can't turn around without seeing one.. it's pisses me off sometimes because I know people are just fair weather fans.. but hey, if it makes the team money.. then so be it.

The problem with teams like the Indians is that injuries are more dramatic. Unless the Indians have a good farm system (I have no idea.. enlighten me) then take your $60 million.. spend on what you can and there's no room for error. Even big teams go through it (see: last years Red Sox)

I'm not denying there is a huge difference between small and big market teams. I just think that if you put the right people in the front office, you can take a small market team and turn it into a big market team.

kutulu

There is no reason the Royals couldn't have a great team. Their problems are in player development, drafting, and identifying talent. They are spending the more money than the Indians right now, they just don't spend it wisely.

You can compete at any payroll level. The DBacks are only paying $52M for their guys this year and are 0.5 games out of first. They got there by drafting the right guys, making smart trades, and a little luck (as in don't give shitty middle relievers like Dotel $5,000,000).

Speaking of the DBacks, MARK FUCKING REYNOLDS has been on a tear. He got called up from AA two weeks ago and he's been hitting the shit out of the ball. Actually, the whole team has been brutalizing opponents the last couple of weeks. Randy is back (again) tonight.

I'm bummed that we won't see a Randy/Curt matchup when we play Boston.

Merchandise sales are divided equally among all 30 teams.

Destrox

That is actually what keeps the indians alive.

Their farm teams, Buffalo and Akron are both first place teams for AA and AAA.

They are the sole reason we are able to keep alive when injuries come about.

If it was not for them, we'd be screwed.

Our management may not spend money well, but our farm coaches/trainers make up for a large dent.

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You are right.. I forgot completely about the revenue sharing. Even still, there is a marketing strategy to big market teams that works.

I'm almost offended you posted the revenue sharing via a skankees fans website..

Ilow

Kadath, you are totally barking up[ the wrong tree if you are saying the Red Sox can do things other teams can't just because they always sell out. First they have the smallest park in the majors by far, despite some unbelievably creative additions, and second, they are chasing the INDIANS home sellout streak of something over 400 games. They have the highest ticket prices in the majors because they have 1/3 less capacity than other parks. Is there a difference between small and large market teams, of course, but it generally doesn't show up in the starting nine or top 4 pitchers as much as in the depth if someone gets hurt, or in the ability to scout places others can't. And stop comparing the Spankees and their fans with the Red Sox, it makes you look jealous; it has less to do with actual dollars spent than organizational philosophy.

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djtestudo

The Red Sox and the Yankees are exactly the same. Not just obnoxious fans (I'm an Orioles tour guide; I know) and national fan-bases.

They both get their money through local TV revenue.

They both control large populations to themselves (all of New England for Boston, half of the NYC metro area for the Yankees) that receive their regional cable networks.

RCNs are the moneymakers in modern baseball, and are why big-market teams can outspend small-market ones.

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Kadath

Another Red Sox fan who bristles at being compared to the Yankees, what a shock!

Fenway seats 38,400, Wrigley seats 41,100. Wrigley has 7% more capacity than the Fen. I don't know if I would call that by far. I can find a ticket at Wrigley for 13 bucks. How much is a ticket at Fenway, assuming you could get one?

I am not saying the Red Sox can do things because they always sell out. I am saying that to try to say you are different than the Yankees because your 2nd highest payroll is lower than theirs is pretty funny. What did they shell out for Daisuke? Oh, right, about 10 million a year on average over the next 6 years.

I'll say it again. The Indians are making a great team with a modest payroll. I'm not jealous of your money. I want you to acknowledge you are a big money team...just like the Yankees.

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All I will say about payroll and the financial disparity in baseball is this.... (I've ranted enough about it).....

IF I were still a betting man, and IF I could find a sucker, I would bet even money:

that at the end of this year even King George (who created this mess) will bitch about the money structure and how something needs to be done.

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Yes, we are a big market team with a big payroll. So fucking what? How does that make us the bad guys?? Is it the Red Sox fault that they play in a big market and have the money at their disposal? I'm sure if the roles were reversed you would have no problem with it.

Dice-K was more than just a one person investement. This allows the Red Sox to deal openly in the Japanese market which could prove invaluable in years to come. Are you implying that if the Indians had that kind of disposable income you wouldn't want the guy?? He's having some issues but there's obviously some great talent there.

The Indians can put together all the decent teams with modest payrolls they want. All that matters in the end is does that modest payroll win you a series or just make a few weeks interesting?

Destrox

I feel bad for Dice-K honestly, the poor guy simply botched up from the 5th inning on, other wise he did great. Sure you'd like him to last longer, but 5 solid inning against the Tribe, being backed by the BoSox offense. Every team would take that in a heartbeat.

He's 7-3, the near 5 ERA may be high, but when you can rely on your bats to level that out to a -2 or -3 does it matter? A win is a win. It takes the whole team.

The only thing I was upset about this whole series is that asshole of a Umpire Rick Reed. Three separate occasions now has this douche bag of a ump blatantly fucked up to cause either a game win, a solid third out, or a tying run.

I don't want replays in baseball, but I do want quality Umpires. That old man can be removed.

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The Red Sox are a big market team, period. Not like the Yankees. First as i said, it is a matter of organizational philosophy, the yankees just buy already developed talent for the most part. Second it's a matter of scale. The Yankers payroll is over 205 million, without Clemens etc., that is over 85 million more than the Red Sox, sure the Sox are number two, by a fair margin, but they are much closer to the rest of the field (the other 8 of the top 10 teams are all over 85 mil.) Seriously, only a few teams (like maybe 4) have payrolls much over the DIFFERENCE between the Yankers and Red Sox! Also, when team management spends only 40% of it's revenue on payroll (Cle 2006) you have to start asking yourself how much are they comitted to winning for their fans? As for the network revenue, how does that not direclty reflect on the fans in those areas? Boston, Chicago, New York fans are passionate enough to support a network. I don't know what Baltimore or Cleveland's excuse is, their cities are of comparable populations as Boston, and they both have extensive suburban areas as Boston does.

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pan6467

As for Cleveland, I am by no means a Dolan/Shapiro fan, however, they have been saying that as the team progresses the money will be spent.

My hope and belief is that they have saved the revenue they didn't spend so that they can go out and get players come trading deadline, so they can go out and resign Hafner AND CC.

Above the argument was made "if Cleveland is so hot why don't they have the revenue?"

Well,

-the Dolans upset a lot of fans who refused to buy (but are coming back now),

-They say they are putting the money back into the team by building a strong minor league system, by saving so when they need to they can trade or sign guys they need, etc (it's possible, we'll see come this trade season)

-Cleveland has the poorest base of all the other teams (Median income is lowest here) so you can't raise prices too high, and when gas reaches these heights the disposable income depletes and games are a luxury people don't need and can't afford (and every game is televised), and the fact that there is a mass exodus from the city

-Free agents don't want to come to Cleveland right now, there's no nightlife, the poverty/crime rate is the highest of any other MLB city, the schools are shit, the city is dying. (The 90's we were having a renaissance and Cleveland had it all, but Cleveland is the first to feel a recession and the last to recover... plus they have had the worst city leadership I have ever seen. So much so, they may have destroyed a once beautiful proud city beyond repair)

-the Cavs are in the playoffs and the Browns had a tremendous draft, so the attentiion is not 100% focused on the Tribe (as opposed to the 90's when they dominated it), This means in park advertising revenue, corporate sponsorships (which are all lower than the big market teams get), even season tickets, the all important loge and luxury boxes, etc etc., so that money is drying up and isn't there (and this is what feeds a team more than anything, including fans at the park)

-the Tribe own their own tv network (2nd year in), they show EVERY game, what the Dolans are doing is trying to get the interest and passion back and get people to want to go to the Jake (they are also raising their revenue by the ad money they make, but that will take awhile to show up), unfortunately it also is a bouble edged sword in that, why spend $100 (tix, food, parking, etc) when you can watch the game in the privacy of your home or at the corner bar?

This is a make or break time for the Indians, either they start winning and the Dolans prove to everyone they will put the money in or the team dies and becomes that which they were in the 70's and 80's just a farm team for others.

So there you have it. It's bullshit and laughable to say Cleveland and Boston's suburbs are similar.... or to say Baltimore and Cleveland are similar. Cleveland/Detroit/Pittsburgh those 3 are the most similar in type of people and economics... but even then Cleveland (because of poor leadership and focus) ranks below them.

Let's see the Jake holds 48,000..... the average ticket is roughly $20 (and while it may not seem like much, by the time you add food, parking and driving (because there is no true public transportation here) it is unaffordable for a lot of people..... even if you sellout all 81 games you're making $78 Million gross, then you have to pay the lease, the front office, etc etc.

So this proves the ad revenue is the most important aspect.... but when your city is dying and companies are cutting back on advertising.......

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Kadath

Ilow, just one thing: Where are you getting the Red Sox payroll at less than 120 million? The lowest number I've seen is $143 million. Also, I've seen the Yankees payroll around 195 (without Clemens).

pan, thanks for helping out. gucci, you talk a lot of smack about winning the Series for having won the same number as the Indians in the last 75 years.

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Ilow

i got it from here http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/f...c.php?t=112578
I know ESPN's is different, and I've seen others that are different still. I think it comes down to cash transactions, and at what point you count. the 195 for the yankees is definitely pre-clemens, but i have no idea how anybody adds or doesn't add things like posting fees. i know some people include guaranteed bonus money etc. The point is really that the yankers are spending at minimum 30% more than the next team and pretty much double anybody else, even the other team they share a city with. No one's saying that the small market teams are not at some amount of a disadvantage, but Oakland, Minn, Fla, St. Louis, Detroit, and Cle have certainly proven that small market teams can be competetive. many people's problem with the yankees is their "corporate" philosophy and their insistence at simply trying to buy the best that they can rather than trying to build a team. That's why they now have current or former all-stars at 8 of 9 positions but are still playing like crap. Who wants to root for a 25 players 25 cabs kind of team? The Red Sox spend a significant amount of money to be sure, but they still at least attempt to do it creatively.
And Pan, your point is taken that there are certainly different socioeconomic differences between metropolitan areas, like Cleveland and Boston, but don't forget that Boston also has a relative few who make ridiculous amount of money that skews the per capita income, and the cost of living is one of the top three highest in the nation. The vast majority of Sox fans aren't like the ted kennedy and john kerry's of the world. Everyone in the rust belt is feeling a pinch these days. Be glad you don't have a big dig to pour money into. For what we've spent on that so far we should have a 4 lane to China by now.

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shortynickel

So I am a little late, I didnt see this thread previously.

If I could put down my predictions that I had at the beginning of the season...

AL East: Baltimore (doesnt look good atm)
AL Central: Minnesota
AL West:dont really follow but say LA to go with my NL pick
Wild Card: Cleveland (since they were the underdog in March)

NL East: Atlanta (of course)
NL Central: Milwaukee
NL West: LA
NL Wild Card: Cubs (since they were also the underdog) Realistic Wild Card would have be Philly.

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Of course I talk smack.. it's what us Sox fans do.. isn't it??

I'm a sox fan.. I'm no stranger to the taste of foot in my mouth..

Kadath

Here is an article on overpaid and underpaid players. Guess who has the most overpaid players? Hint: Not the Yankees!

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns



It's just this guy's opinion, I know.

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Ilow

Please, he's just trying to fill up his article. Anyone who assesses contracts after a month and a half is a moron. If he's going to be critical for lack of performance through April and May, he could say Rivera's $10.5 million and 4 saves is the worst contract, or Mussina's $11+ million patheticness, or how about Giambi's $23+ million, and 7 homers and .260 BA. Criticizing Clement's is legit as he was a bust, but teams will always take chances on pitchers (yankees with pavano, igawa, johnson, etc). He would have more credibility if he criticized crisp, who has at least been on the team for a season, and generally been sub-par, except for some highlight reel catches.

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kutulu

This is total bullshit. Don't try to spin the Red Sox as some team that tries to use their farm system as the base of new talent for the organization. They aren't. They sign free agents at the same rate that the Yankees do. Actually, the Yankees have more than twice as many homegrown players on their team:

The Red Sox have 4 players on their active roster that developed in their farm system: Papelbon, Veritek, Pedoria, and Youkilis.

The Yankees have 10: Clippard, Pettitte, Proctor, Wang, Rivera, Posada, Cano, Jeter, Cabrerra, and Thompson

The correct opening day payrolls are $189.6 for the Yankees and $143 for the Red Sox. Add in the posting fees paid ($26 for Igawa and $51 for Matsuzaka), and they are $215.6 and $194. The difference is not as much as you'd like to think it is and really, once you are at the point at which both of your payrolls exceed the combined payrolls of the bottom 5 teams in baseball it's really a pot and kettle argument.

Ilow

First, the Yankee payroll is way over 189 mil, any way you cut it. Even ESPN, who is up their ass lists it at $195mil and change and the Red Sox at $143mil and some change to start the season. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=2823605) And did you conveniently forget that the savior is returning at a mere $28mil, prorated to $18mil? that puts the yankees at $213 mil or more, which is, like i said, almost 50% more than the red sox. Even if you consider the posting fees paid for the Japanese players (which again you conveniently forgot to spread over the life of the contract in order to skew your point) the payrolls are not really comparable. I have acknowledged all along that the red sox are a big market team with an abundance of resources, but even they simply cannot do some of the financial things that the yankees can, particularly in the middle of the season.
I should have been more specific when i said that the yankees simply buy talent, I was not referring to the farm systems exactly but really to the yankees ability to procure and maintain talent. When have the red sox ever had all stars at 8 of 9 positions? Look at the top major league salaries,1.Alex Rodriguez, NYY--$27,708,525 2. Jason Giambi, NYY--$23,428,571 3. Derek Jeter, NYY--21,600,000 4. Manny Ramirez, Bos--17,016,381 5. Todd Helton, Col--16,600,000 6. Bartolo Colon, LAA--16,000,000 (tie) Andy Pettitte, NYY--16,000,000 8. Jason Schmidt, LAD--15,703,946 9. Jim Thome, Wsox--15,666,667 10. Bobby Abreu, NYY--15,600,000 (again, from ESPN.com) why are the top 3 yankees, why are half the top 10 yankees? Because they are playing on a different scale than everybody else. No other team in baseball could afford to keep all of those players. Why do you think that every time a-rod's name comes up with regard to coming to Boston, the red sox first have to figure out how to get rid of Manny and his salary? Don't you think that being a New England Patriots fan and watching their success with a salary cap that i would love to see one for baseball? Of course, but until they have one in the MLB, the yankees are on an entirely different tier than everyone else.

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kutulu

I 'conveniently' forgot to spread the posting fees out over the life of the contract because they are NOT spread out over the life of the contract. It is a one-time, lump-sum payment paid to the posting team. They are still paying nearly $200M this year.

I just don't understand how Boston fans think they are so different than the Yankees. Take out the posting fee and you are still paying nearly $150M. You outspend everyone but the Yankees and based on the revenues, you have the resources to add payroll.

I got my payroll numbers from Cot's. It is a great site that summarizes contracts for every player and every team.

goddfather40

I'd like to interrupt this Red Sox/Yankees borefest to inform everyone of the Angels and their magic. 37-22 now and a nice lead in the AL West. It's really starting to feel like '02 and '05 again. Pitching dominant, Hitting doing just enough (16 runs tonight ! ) and defense vastly improved. Yes, we all know the A's will get hot in the second half, but the Angels can hold them off and have in the past.

Gary Matthews, Jr. aka Mr. HGH, has made liars out of most people and is one of the key reasons for the resurgence. Great defense and solid hitting from that guy. BIG surprise.

A Red Sox - Angels ALCS would be so sweet.

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I am surprised at the major defensive adjustment the Halos have made. I guess I'll eat a toe or two.

Yes a Red Sox victory over the Angels in the ALCS would be great

The Red Sox appear to be headed for a patented slump.. I just hope it's not a major one.

Mister Coaster

The Angels FINALLY had all 8 of their position players in the lineup last night, and yeah, 16 runs later (4 homers, one was a Grand Salami) let the doubters eat crow. They have all 3 clicking, offence, defence and pitching. Those blowouts by the BoSox early mean nothing, wait until they come to the Big A.

I'll have to admit that I felt pretty bad for relief pitcher Jason Miller, 8 earned runs and recorded only one out. Thats a 216 ERA for that outing, MERCY!

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kutulu

Good, the DBacks play the Sox this weekend:

Davis vs. Beckett
Owings vs. Taverez
Johnson vs. Matsuzaka

I'm so bummed that Schilling won't be pitching in the series. Oh well, it's better for us that way. I won't be surprised if we lose 2 but I think we have a chance to take 2 from the Red Sox. The DBacks have finally started hitting and the pitching has been on an absolute rampage.

The_Jazz

Fuckin' Cubs...

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Ilow

the angels are looking really sharp, and don't forget they have the talisman, orlando cabrera, he always makes things happen. The a's always do get hot in the 2nd half, but with their injuries i think the halos will hold them off. Vlad is a pleasure to watch any day too.
gucc, i don't think the sox are going into a patented slump, a tad too early for that, just a tough couple of games. I think they referenced it last night, but their number 5 starter (tavarez) has faced the other team's ace in something like 7 of his 10 starts, no wonder he's last in run support in his starts. Kutulu, I agree that it will be a shame to not have schill pitch in the desert, for some reason I am psyched for that last game, should be a doozie. BTW, does anyone else feel like the schedule is all over the place this year, I feel like interleague used to be more organized into a couple of bunches, not just tossed into west coast swing, and this whole flying to the west coast after a (late) sunday night baseball game is just silly. maybe it's just me.

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kutulu

I wish I could check out a few Oakland games but I live in an NL city so the best I could get are sportscenter highlights. Their pitching is amazing. Park and league adjusted they have to have the best pitching in baseball.

Another thing, how is it that the Yankees suck so much? Sure, their pitching sucks but they still have a strongly positive run differential. Their RS and RA suggest that they should be a few games ABOVE .500, not 7 below.

Glory's Sun

The Yankees suck because A-rod is a madonna boy and it has spread throughout the clubhouse.

Not that I'm complaining...

kutulu

lol

Look at this play by Brandon Lyon last night. I can't get the link to work, so just copy it and paste it into your browser.

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Destrox

I must say I HATE MLBS VIDEO STREAMING SERVER.


Slowest piece of shit on earth.


Anyways,

That was a most amazing play by that pitcher, wow. That may be the play of the week, hands down.

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