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Old 09-23-2007, 10:18 PM   #201 (permalink)
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The Indians Clinched..........

The Jake's Goin Crazy And Soundin Like The 90's All Over Baby..... This Is Our Team This Is Our Year.......... The Future Is Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh yeah, and did I mention......................


BEST FUCKIN RECORD IN BASEBALL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck you Yankees, Fuck you Mets, Angels, Bosux, D'Backs and Cubs..........

This is the TRIBE'S year........ bring it if you can or stay home and cry with the losers.

Then there's this tidbit:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;_y...923105&prov=ap

The Indians' seven division titles in 13 seasons since realignment in 1995 trail only the Atlanta Braves (11) and Yankees (10). ... It was the fourth time the Indians have clinched in their 155th game. They also did it in 1948, 1997 and 2001
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:47 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Now if they could just sell out the Jake. Attendance has been mediocre at best.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:47 AM   #203 (permalink)
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Pan, your World Series Record is only slightly better than the Cubs.....

Magic number is 4, baby.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:16 AM   #204 (permalink)
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Now I'll be the first to say that I was wrong about the Indians..but.. yeah. Don't get your hopes up. I have to see a WS win before I even begin to believe that they are good enough to win.

The Cubbies are the same way. They'll make the playoff's then look like the chumps they are.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:29 AM   #205 (permalink)
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The Cubbies are the same way. They'll make the playoff's then look like the chumps they are.
Just like the Cardinals did last year? All that matters is who has the hot pitchers and hot bats once you're in the post-season...
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:06 AM   #206 (permalink)
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pan: in 9 games heads up the Tribe has a losing record to the Angles, Halos take the season 5-4. No amount of large red type can change that. See you in the post season.

And thats a "staggering" half-game lead you have for best record over both the Halos and the Bosox. Don't count your rings before they're on your finger, Chief Wahoo.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:27 AM   #207 (permalink)
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This was me being incoherent.
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:40 AM   #208 (permalink)
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My point is that I didn't post it in 72 point, all-cap, bright red, underlined and using the term "fucking." Nor did I say to "Fuck" the other division leading teams. Besides, that wasn't the first time the Halos have had the best record, I was stating the fact, not shouting it or rubbing others' noses in it.

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if it were somehow possible to split a game, they would both be 4.5/4.5 against the other
Huh? WTF is that supposed to mean? There are no ties in Baseball, the record IS 5 to 4 in 9 games, there is no 4.5 split. I don't see your point there.

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Old 09-24-2007, 10:38 AM   #209 (permalink)
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pan: in 9 games heads up the Tribe has a losing record to the Angles, Halos take the season 5-4. No amount of large red type can change that. See you in the post season.

And thats a "staggering" half-game lead you have for best record over both the Halos and the Bosox. Don't count your rings before they're on your finger, Chief Wahoo.
Ummmm No the tribe has taken 2/3 in April at the Jake...... lost 2/3 in May at LA
then split 2/4 earlier this month in LA..... that means it is an EVEN series.

Against Boston, Cleveland is 2-5, against NY, Cleveland is 0-6. However, 3 of those 4 series were early in the season when the bats were dead and pitching was getting adjusted. Those wins also were pretty much Sowers and Lee. The Boston series in July was the last one of the 4 and Cleveland split with Boston. It was also right around then you see the bats come alive, the pitching gel and the Tribe take off.

So to base anything on early series is impossible.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:24 AM   #210 (permalink)
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For the record, this is about the only part of TFP where you can get away with the use of the phrase "fuck you" and making disparaging comments about fellow members. Because let's face it, all you people are wrong unless you're (the universal "you") on my (the speaker, not me particularly) bandwagon.

Carry on.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:34 AM   #211 (permalink)
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Ummmm No the tribe has taken 2/3 in April at the Jake...... lost 2/3 in May at LA
then split 2/4 earlier this month in LA..... that means it is an EVEN series.
Indeed, I stand corrected. For some reason I was thinking that series in April was a 2-game split. Not only did I think that, but I even looked back at the schedule and saw a 2 game series. Guess I wasn't paying too close attention.

My bad...
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:22 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:32 PM   #213 (permalink)
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Also, fuck you, apparently, because it's okay.
Since you admitted to being a retard (people actually still use that word?), I'll let you off without a warning. See, it would have been fine if you said "fuck you, Cubs fan", that would have been fine. As it was, though, you just come off as another Mistake by the Lake. You might as well be a Phillies fan acting like that...
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:39 PM   #214 (permalink)
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This topic is becoming less and less fun as the season progresses... So I'm bowing out of it. And people say the palyers have big egos...

My next post here will be when The Halos take the World Series or go down trying.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:45 PM   #215 (permalink)
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This topic is becoming less and less fun as the season progresses... So I'm bowing out of it. And people say the palyers have big egos...

My next post here will be when The Halos take the World Series or go down trying.
See you in 2 weeks....
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:42 PM   #216 (permalink)
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Unless the Phillies take the wildcard spot from the Padres, the Cubs will lose to the DBacks. Mark it down.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:13 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Jesus Christ, who was that asshole? Coaster, I'm sorry. Jazz, I appreciate the leniency. I don't know what the hell is wrong with me lately.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:06 PM   #218 (permalink)
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For the record, this is about the only part of TFP where you can get away with the use of the phrase "fuck you" and making disparaging comments about fellow members. Because let's face it, all you people are wrong unless you're (the universal "you") on my (the speaker, not me particularly) bandwagon.

Carry on.
As an Indians fan especially a year when no one expected them to reach these heights it just came out. After your team gets beaten down and is made a joke out of, it truly feels good to give the finger to all those who portray their teams as something better than what they are.

(As for the Yankees.... I just like saying Fuck the Yankees.)

It was not truly directed at any fan in particular or any group of fan.... I apologize if people were offended.

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Indeed, I stand corrected. For some reason I was thinking that series in April was a 2-game split. Not only did I think that, but I even looked back at the schedule and saw a 2 game series. Guess I wasn't paying too close attention.

My bad...

According to the schedule:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/cl...al&m=04&y=2007

April 10, 2007 Indians beat the Angels 7-6 in CLE : CI up 1

April 11, 2007 Angels beat the Indians 4-1 in CLE : Series Tied

April 12, 2007 Indians beat the Angels 4-2 in CLE : CI up 1

May 8, 2007 Indians Beat the Angels 5-1 in LA : CI up 2

May 9, 2007 Angels beat the Indians 3-2 in LA : CI up 1

May 10, 2007 Angels beat the Indians 8-0 in LA : Series Tied

No games vs each other in June July or August

Sept. 6, 2007 Angels beat the Indians 10-3 in LA: LA up 1

Sept. 7, 2007 Angels beat the Indians 3-2 in LA : LA up 2

Sept. 8, 2007 Indians beat the Angels 6-1 in LA : LA up 1

Sept. 9, 2007 Indians beat the Angels 6-2 in LA : Series for the Regular season ends Tied.

Overall it was a very tight and good series and may prove to be one for the books should they meet in the ALCS.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:49 PM   #219 (permalink)
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Unless the Phillies take the wildcard spot from the Padres, the Cubs will lose to the DBacks. Mark it down.
Well, now that the Pads lost Milton Bradley for the season, looks like the the Phillies will have that wild card spot. May God have mercy on the Mets.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:58 PM   #220 (permalink)
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Well, now that the Pads lost Milton Bradley for the season, looks like the the Phillies will have that wild card spot. May God have mercy on the Mets.
I am in no way shape or form a gameboy Milton (Parker Brothers) Bradley fan but reading about what happened... (and I do believe he was goaded not that it takes much but the umps played mind games with him)... and being a conspiracy theorist, I wonder if the umps had money on the game and the Phillies clinching the wildcard. Or MLB itself who knows the Padres will always be the Padres but the Phillies need a big attendence boost.

I mean what better way to fix it than to take out the Padres only bat. You, as an ump, know the guy has a temper and is easily pushed into hot headedness tantrums......

Just saying, I would hope and pray the sport I love is better than this and it is a pipe dream.... but I don't know anymore... steroids, using livelier balls.... games can be easily fixed by that one close call or a few close pitching calls or getting a hot head to come at an ump and get an automatic suspension.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:08 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Well, now that the Pads lost Milton Bradley for the season, looks like the the Phillies will have that wild card spot. May God have mercy on the Mets.
They lost Cameron for the year also. They could be done.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:38 AM   #222 (permalink)
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Well Manny is back.. can I get a Hallelujah!?! AMEN!

I loved watching the DRays fuck over the skanks last night. The Yankees bullpen is starting to let down again.. at the perfect time.

Hopefully, the Bo'Sox can keep Manny, Youk, and Coco healthy and get Okajima and the rest of the bullpen some rest... they're gonna need it.

The Pad's are done. .. and wtf is up with Atlanta.. I thought they were dead for sure.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:21 AM   #223 (permalink)
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Realistically, Atlanta is done.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:13 PM   #224 (permalink)
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You know, when I got tickets for the Phillies in the early summer, I didn't think the game would matter, I just wanted to go to a game. But that the game tomorrow actually means something is pretty nice.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:53 PM   #225 (permalink)
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There must be some kind of sabotage going on here with the Mets. I mean, they have a 5-0 lead going into the 5th inning. But they still manage to lose.



They're not going to the playoffs. Mark my words.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:39 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Something I have noticed the past week and can't remember if or when it has ever happened....

There are no 100 game winners or losers this season. Seems odd, does anyone know when the last time that happened was?
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:57 PM   #227 (permalink)
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:37 PM   #228 (permalink)
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:30 AM   #229 (permalink)
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Give it up for Micah fucking Owings! 6.1 shutout innings, 4-4, 3 doubles, 3 RBI.

Not even his best hitting performance. In Atlanta he went 4-5 with 2 monster HR.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:37 AM   #230 (permalink)
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I gave Owings props last night.

I'm really surprised the Padre's are hanging in there.

Of course, the Bo'Sox choked last night but we'll wrap it up soon.

The Mets.. wtf?? They just want to suck balls ..
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I've thought about this greatly, and I've come to the realization taht I must apologize to Willie Randolph. I've looked at this all wrong. Since 2003, the Mets have suffered a malaise that I call the Late Season Meltdown. It's something that's as guaranteed as death and taxes. It's happened with Bobby Valentine, it's happened with Art Howe, and now it's happening with Willie.

In 03, after winning an interleague series against the Yankees, the Mets crashed and burned.

In 2004, after sweeping the Yankees in interleague play, they once again crashed and burned.

2005 looked to break that habit....until Carlos Beltran and Mike Cameron crashed in the outfield, taking the Mets down with them.

2006...that's what number crunchers call a statistical anamoly.

And so here we are, in 2007, and the meltdown has arrived, and not a moment too soon. This is why I must apologize to you, Mr. Randolph, because you've put up the good fight, and managed for that one magical seson to delay the inevitable. But as we're learning, lightning does not strike twice. Your've put upt the good fight, and that's all I can ask of you.

Thank you, Mr. Randolph.
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:21 PM   #232 (permalink)
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I'm really surprised the Padre's are hanging in there.
Special thanks to AZ's GM Josh Byrnes for giving them Scott Hairston for in injured AAA reliever. Overall, I really like what JB has done for the team as GM but he fucked up with that one. Hairston has made the difference via walkoff HRs, base clearing triples, whatever in at least 4 games for the Padres. If the Padres overtake the Dbacks it is all on Josh Byrnes.

Playing the Rockies, who now have won 11 in a row. We have Webb but the Rockies have pounded Webb all year. Payback starts tonight.

Now if the damn Phillies can just lose a game and the Brewers act like they want to be in the playoffs we can clinch tonight. If not, we need one more win over the weekend.
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:25 PM   #233 (permalink)
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The Rockies series is going to be the deciding factor for sure. I know I would have lost alot of money if someone would have told me the Rockies would be in it this long and be a factor for who makes the playoffs.

Webb is good, but I just don't know if he can get past such a hot team.
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Especially since they have owned him all year. Whatever, we have three shots at it and can afford to lose one game.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:29 PM   #236 (permalink)
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:51 AM   #237 (permalink)
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The Mets are the new Red Sox. Heh.

I like the matchups in the AL so far. I think the Bo'Sox can take the series as long as Beckett wins the first matchup. Since the skanks have yet to see Sabathia this year (iirc) that should give the Indians a good start. I can't believe I'm actually going to be cheering for the Indians ..at least for one series
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:13 AM   #238 (permalink)
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Here we go, Cubs-DBacks. The DBacks finally made it back to the postseason with the best record in the NL. They had a total payroll of about $53M (26th in MLB). It was a great feeling to finally come back. Since 2004 when they lost 111 games it has been hard. The ownership was left in financial ruin and after kicking Colangelo out they continued to make stupid mistakes (signing Glaus and Oritz, trading and extending Shawn Green, etc). Finally, they got a real GM and actually committed to the young players.

Through it all, the team has received little respect. Outside of Brandon Webb about the only thing the national press wants to talk about is the fact that they are a rare team that has won so many games despite getting outscored by its opponents. Despite taking the season series against the Cubs, almost everyone is picking the Cubs. It's the same bs, the Dbacks are too young, can't score runs, and the Cubs pitching is better (which actually isn't true if you adjust for parks).

About the youth of this team, 15 of the players I think will be on the playoff roster started the year with less than 1 year of service time. Only three players (Livan, Tony Clark, Jeff Cirillo) have at least 6 years of service time (the amount required to become a free agent). Three of the players were callups from AA (Bonafacio (backup MI), Reynolds (starting 3B), Upton (platoon RF, provided his HBP on the wrist allows him to play in the series).

My call for the series:

Dbacks win games 1 and 2, close games. Cubs win by at least 5 in game 3. Game 4 is a tossup and if necessary, Webb clinches the series in game 5.

One edit, Arizona fans suck. There is a total of over 20,000 tickets remaining for Games 1 and 2. I know that if there was any way I could afford to go I would.

Edit #2, All of the Division Series games will be broadcast on TBS. None of them will be in HD.

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2006 Record: 70-92; Fourth place, American League East.

2007 Projected Record: 85-77; Third place, American League East.
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Over the past several years, the Orioles had a goal of developing a pitching staff from within the organization. That plan took a step forward last season with the emergence of Erik Bedard as an ace. In addition, former first-round pick Adam Loewen showed promise coming up from AA in late May, then sticking for good after the All-Star Break, including a sub-4 ERA August.

With Daniel Cabrera, who had 157 strikeouts in 148 innings and a 4.74 ERA but who's league-leading 104 walks got him sent to AAA for a short time mid-season, the Orioles have three young starters who, if things go as expected, could give them the best top-three in the division.

To help the Orioles recover from the three-headed disaster of Rodrigo Lopez, Bruce Chen, and Russ Ortiz, who gave the team a combined 328 innings and 6.53 ERA, mostly from the number-four and -five spots in the rotation, the Orioles traded for Jaret Wright from the Yankees, who paid most of his salary, to pair with Kris Benson as veterans in the rotation. However, Benson came to spring training injured, and was replaced by former Mets starter Steve Trachsel.

The bullpen was given one of the most drastic overhauls possible, with only one reliever that was with the team the whole season remaining, closer Chris Ray. Ray was tenth in the league in saves with 33, and a 2.73 ERA. Just about everyone else, however, was replaced.

A total of almost $40 million was spent on the bullpen in the forms of Danys Baez, Chad Bradford, Scott Williamson, and Jamie Walker. From within the Orioles added Brian Burress, who pitched late in the season for the Orioles, and John Parrish, who would have made the team last year, but was injured. Also added is Jeremy Guthrie, a former number-one pick of the Indians who was signed to a minor-league deal but wowed the team with a 1.50 ERA in fifteen spring-training innings.
Bedard might be the best pitcher in the American League going into next season. He averaged 6.5 innings (yes, I know there are no half innings, but the math was exact) per start, and finished ninth in ERA in baseball (fourth in the AL) and fourth in strikeouts (third in AL)...despite missing the entire last month of the season.

Jeremy Guthrie (also known as "Associate Christ") came out of absolute nowhere to finish with a 3.70 ERA, averaging 6 1/3 innings a start, again missing the last month.

Bradford and Walker finished with 3.34 and 3.23 ERAs over 78 and 81 appearances, respectively. The rest of the team didn't do so well.

Daniel Cabrera regressed to the tune of league leads in losses (18) and walks (108), and a 5.55 ERA. He may not return next season. Baez finished with a 6.44 ERA and also hurt his arm and is out through next year. Chris Ray was up and down through the first half, then also got hurt through next season.

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One of the biggest criticisms of the Orioles' minor-league system over the years has been a complete lack of position prospects that have major-league success. The Orioles did not develop a single one on their own between Cal Ripken in 1982 and Brian Roberts a couple years ago. While this is still an issue, a gem was found last season in the form of outfielder Nick Markakis.

Markakis finished the season with a .291 average, 16 home runs, 62 RBIs, and a .799 OPS, made all the more impressive considering he was batting .219 with two home runs and a .615 OPS going into June. He will be the number-three hitter in the lineup ahead of Miguel Tejada and his .330/24/100 season with an .877 OPS.

Second baseman Brian Roberts, fully recovered from the catastrophic arm injury suffered in September 2005 when Bubba Crosby collided with him and nearly tore the arm off, will lead-off, with third baseman Melvin Mora batting second. After Markakis and Tejada will be free-agent Aubrey Huff, coming off two down seasons with Tampa Bay and Houston, and expected to play first base. Catcher Ramon Hernandez, second to Tejada with 23 home runs last season, bats sixth. Jay Gibbons, starting the season as the left fielder but expected to be mostly a DH, will bat seventh. Kevin Millar starts the season batting eighth as the DH. Corey Patterson, coming off of a season where he started on the bench and ended up surprising everyone with 16 home runs, 45 steals and great defense, finishes the lineup.

The reason the seven and eight spots are listed as questions is because of Jay Payton. Signed to be the everyday left fielder, he was injured late in spring training and will miss the beginning of the season. When he returns he will bat eighth in left field with Gibbons and Millar sharing the seventh spot and DH.

Starting the season on the bench will be infielder Chris Gomez, who is not expected to repeat his .341 average, .826 OPS 2006 season, infielder/outfielder Freddie Bynum, and catcher Paul Bako.

The small bench and large pitching staff is needed because of a dearth of off-days early in this season, and a need for insurance for the starting pitching, which has several members not noted for going deep into games.
Markakis still looks like a star-in-waiting, finishing with a .300 average, 23 home runs (leading the team) and an .848 OPS. Roberts batted .291 with 50 stolen bases.

However, Tejada and Hernandez had severe off-seasons, and although Huff had respectable numbers in the second half, he was awful before mid-July.

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The Orioles have a chance to compete this year. New York and Boston both have questions with their pitching, Toronto looks to have tread water, if anything, and Tampa Bay has no proven pitching beyond Scott Kazmir.

A lot has to go right, and there is almost no chance for a division title with all of that money ahead of them, but as long as those three young starters continue to improve, and the bullpen and lineup can be at the very least league average, this looks like a mid-80s-win team that will be in the wild card race until close to the end with the potential for much more.

As the Tigers proved last season, there is a reason we play the games.
At least we were 9-9 vs. the Yankees, and get the fourth pick in the draft next summer...
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One edit, Arizona fans suck. There is a total of over 20,000 tickets remaining for Games 1 and 2. I know that if there was any way I could afford to go I would.
Wow, really? There's gonna be a lotta Cubs fans there. I've been looking into getting tix for game 3 or 4 here in Chicago, and the worst seats in the house are going for ~$250. Lower deck is going for a "buy-it-now" price of $800. I cannot afford these - and there's 20,000 extra in Arizona! Man...

Also, did anyone else watch that Rockies victory over the Pads? Holy crap. What a game. But I gotta say: A) I know Hoff blew it, but it was the wrong call to wait till the 13th to bring him in B) How much of Hoff's ineffectiveness was because he'd essentially been warming up for like 6 innings? C) For about 4 innings, hitters for both teams seemed to more or less give up entirely on the concepts of plate discipline or working the count and tried to end it on one swing. Blech D) I feel bad for Pads fans, in that Holliday did not score as Barrett made the best kick save of the year, NHL included, but I don't really blame the ump for missing that one - dirt was flying, it was bang-bang, and he couldn't have missed the plate by more than a couple of inches. E) Good lord the Phillies must be happy - both the Pads and Rox must be completely spent and exhausted going into the NLDS F) I think the Phills and Rox have like 7 stolen bases, 800 home runs, and 2 bandbox stadiums between them. Pitchers beware.
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