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Originally Posted by kutulu
This is total bullshit. Don't try to spin the Red Sox as some team that tries to use their farm system as the base of new talent for the organization. They aren't. They sign free agents at the same rate that the Yankees do. Actually, the Yankees have more than twice as many homegrown players on their team:
The Red Sox have 4 players on their active roster that developed in their farm system: Papelbon, Veritek, Pedoria, and Youkilis.
The Yankees have 10: Clippard, Pettitte, Proctor, Wang, Rivera, Posada, Cano, Jeter, Cabrerra, and Thompson
The correct opening day payrolls are $189.6 for the Yankees and $143 for the Red Sox. Add in the posting fees paid ($26 for Igawa and $51 for Matsuzaka), and they are $215.6 and $194. The difference is not as much as you'd like to think it is and really, once you are at the point at which both of your payrolls exceed the combined payrolls of the bottom 5 teams in baseball it's really a pot and kettle argument.
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First, the Yankee payroll is way over 189 mil, any way you cut it. Even ESPN, who is up their ass lists it at $195mil and change and the Red Sox at $143mil and some change to start the season. (
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=2823605) And did you conveniently forget that the savior is returning at a mere $28mil, prorated to $18mil? that puts the yankees at $213 mil or more, which is, like i said, almost 50% more than the red sox. Even if you consider the posting fees paid for the Japanese players (which again you conveniently forgot to spread over the life of the contract in order to skew your point) the payrolls are not really comparable. I have acknowledged all along that the red sox are a big market team with an abundance of resources, but even they simply cannot do some of the financial things that the yankees can, particularly in the middle of the season.
I should have been more specific when i said that the yankees simply buy talent, I was not referring to the farm systems exactly but really to the yankees ability to procure and maintain talent. When have the red sox ever had all stars at 8 of 9 positions? Look at the top major league salaries,1.Alex Rodriguez, NYY--$27,708,525 2. Jason Giambi, NYY--$23,428,571 3. Derek Jeter, NYY--21,600,000 4. Manny Ramirez, Bos--17,016,381 5. Todd Helton, Col--16,600,000 6. Bartolo Colon, LAA--16,000,000 (tie) Andy Pettitte, NYY--16,000,000 8. Jason Schmidt, LAD--15,703,946 9. Jim Thome, Wsox--15,666,667 10. Bobby Abreu, NYY--15,600,000 (again, from ESPN.com) why are the top 3 yankees, why are half the top 10 yankees? Because they are playing on a different scale than everybody else. No other team in baseball could afford to keep all of those players. Why do you think that every time a-rod's name comes up with regard to coming to Boston, the red sox first have to figure out how to get rid of Manny and his salary? Don't you think that being a New England Patriots fan and watching their success with a salary cap that i would love to see one for baseball? Of course, but until they have one in the MLB, the yankees are on an entirely different tier than everyone else.