Push-Pull

Milnoc, if you've considered a Prince Albert, I have to say that it isn't as bad as some would think. I had mine done in June, started at a 10 gauge, and just tonight sized up to a 6 gauge. I won't say that it has added anything major in the sensation department, but it does make it "different", and that alone was enough for it to be worthwhile for me. If interested, check out my thread HERE.

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Milnoc

Hi Push-Pull,

I've considered it, but decided to skip it for now. Even with a properly sized PW, there can still be some urine leakage out of the PA orifice. Also, I still want to confirm I can handle a foreign object in my urethra. The pinless PW allows me to experiment without making a lifelong commitment.

I'm still in my early forties, so I have time to try it out later if I decide to go through with it. Heck! I've found out that many piercers got their start between 30 and 50, sometimes later! Surprisingly, they don't all start young.

I can even imagine a scenario where these older guys will give a piercing as a gift on their children's sixteenth birthday! They wouldn't have to accept that kind of a gift of course. It is a bit on the radical side. But how cool would it be to have parents that would offer such a gift to their kids?

I've read your thread and must admit you've went through one hell of an experience there! Congrats on the highly positive outcome! And kudos to your wonderful wife for being so supportive!

tisonlyi

I occasionally play with these things, nicely lubed up, in 8 and 10mm widths, which is not so much for this kind of behaviour... I have seen things which make me want to scream, though some of you will look at that and feel the same way...

The feeling varies depending on the day, but is usually very intense and extremely erotic but not something that's likely to drive me to a satisfying climax on it's own.

Caution is advised, I've let it slip a couple of times - lubeyfingers - and the weight can let the taper slide down inside far enough to freak me out a tad, but it's easy enough to push it back up...

I have friends who've been sounding (we know it's called sounding, right?) with TENS machine electrodes and other such devices. Interesting.

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digme

This is one of those things thats on the list, but I haven't done enough research into it yet.

moonjuice

haha
evertime I hear urethra it makes me think of king of the hill.

anyway that kinda stuff is not for me.

RetroGunslinger

You know how people put their own accounts of first watching "2Girls1Cup" on YouTube? I could never do that, because I have absolutely no reaction to it or the videos of it's ilk. However, I'm seriously considering uploading my account of reading this thread and following the links.

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Milnoc

WARNING: the following post may make you sick...

It's been a while since I've received my urethral sounds from http://www.medicaltoys.com, and I've had the chance to try them out a bit. What follows is an account of my personal experience inserting many inches of surgical stainless steel in my urethra.

You still with me?

The first thing I've discovered is that SurgiLube irritates me quite a bit. It's a very unpleasant substance which I'd prefer to avoid if at all possible. Luckily, I've found an excellent substitute: pre-ejaculatory fluid, otherwise known as pre-cum. And it so happens I'm able to produce enough of it.

The Dittel sounds I've tried were frightening at first. But as it turns out, they were the most comfortable of the three sounds I've purchased. here's a picture of them.



The largest comfortable size I could handle was the FR24 size, equivalent to 5/16 of an inch or 8mm in diameter. That's the fourth one from the left, measuring 10½ inches long.

I've managed to plunge the sound down my erect penis, right past the scrotum for a total depth of almost 8 inches.

The Hegars however, were first used when I tried using the SurgiLube. So at first, I wasn't too keen to try them again. The curve was especially intimidating.



But curiosity killed Fluffy, and I tried the 7/8mm size, 8mm end first. Tisonlyi was right about being careful about lubey fingers. Despite the sound being eight inches long, it managed to disappear into my penis! It was just half an inch from the meatus, meaning the end was 2½ inches inside my body past the base of the penis!

I couldn't push it out, so I got on my knees and leaned forward. The sound almost shot out!

After that, I alternated between different sounds to see how far I can push it. Instead, I got bored and stopped.

Now about the pain (which is probably what you're all waiting for ).

As long as the sounds are fully lubed up, as long as you don't use a size that's too large or too small (yes, there's such a thing as "too small" -- it acts more like a needle), and as long as you're very gentle, you'll feel a tingling sensation at first, but you won't feel any pain.

I'm serious! No pain! Even when the Hegar fell into my body, I could actually feel the sound ROTATE inside of me, but it didn't hurt! And when it wanted to shoot out as I leaned forward, it did it without causing any sudden jolts!

The only slight pain I've felt occurred at the meatus when an un-lubed part of the sound hit the opening. Once I squeezed some pre-cum on it however, I was okay, and the sounds fell in a little bit more.

Just to give you an idea how far the sounds went in, look at this cut-away.



The sounds went in as far as the base of the bulb, just before the opening of the Cowper's gland. They've never reached the prostate or the bladder. If you want to go that far, you need a set of THESE! The Van Buren sounds!



Fetish nurse not included.

I have a set of these, but I don't dare try them. This is what it looks like when fully inserted.



Yep! They go right into the bladder! And they have to be inserted quickly when you're not erect! Also, if you get a boner once it's in, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT OUT! You have to wait until you become limp before you can maneuver it out, which will be extremely difficult for me since I'm easily excitable. Hell, I couldn't even insert it in the first place because I need a boner just to produce enough lube to coat the thing!

There's also other models such as Pratts and Rodebuds, but I'll pass for now.

As for peeing afterwards (a requirement after such a practice), yes it's a bit uncomfortable. But once I've done this a couple of times, it's less painful than when spermicide foam containing Nonoxynol-9 gets inside my urethra. So I'm a lot stronger, and a lot roomier than I thought.

However, this doesn't mean I want to participate in this activity too often. Because one of the side-effects of this play is that it leaves me wasted afterwards, and even a bit nauseous. It's not necessarily a physical thing mind you. It more likely a psychosomatic effect brought on by the realization that I can insert large steel rods inside the most delicate orifice of my body with few ill effects! I still can't grasp that this is even possible at such an extent! Eight inches and more! That's a lot!

So that's my initial sounding experience. As for the Prince's Wand I'm considering, that'll have to wait until I get some more experience with the sounds, and I stop getting wasted and nauseous afterwards.

Is anybody still here? Hello?

Redlemon

Yeah, I'm still here. While the thought of sounding doesn't scare me, it doesn't excite me either, so I don't plan on trying it. It was very interesting to hear your writeup, Milnoc, and I'm sure it will help someone out there.

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Makia

Looking at that makes me cringe, and I'm not even a guy =P

imkeen

This doesn't really appeal to me, but its good that someone took the time to understand how to get into this and how to do it safely. Enjoy greatly Milnoc!

Milnoc

An update.

I have a urinary tract infection.

Despite my precautions, I still manage to be sloppy and infected myself. I'm now on a ten day regime of antibiotics which, after just one day, have made me feel so much better.

I'll be honest. This isn't a big surprise. I knew the risks when I tried urethra play, but I also knew there were a wide range of treatments available for the consequences. Living in a country with socialized medicine also helps by not worrying about the treatment costs.

Still, I don't regret my "Jackass" moment. I had a lot of nagging questions that needed to be answered, and I now know just how tough I can be. Most important, I'll know what to expect if ever I need to go through a medical intervention that involves the "natural pathways", and be less frightened about it. My kidney stone episode last year left me so frightened about what MIGHT happen that I was thoroughly disgusted with myself.

Putting the infection aside, the experience did turn out to be a bit too intense for me, draining me of all my energy for 24 hours the two times I've tried it. And as a sexual thrill, it leaves much to be desired.

So, no more urethral play for me! And no Prince's Wand either.

I want to thank my doctor for saving me from myself. I've only had him since the beginning of the year, but he's turning out to be a cool and understanding doc!

Despite me not needing them anymore, my urethral sounds are NOT for sale. I have a great idea for a horror movie!

tisonlyi

AFAIK, there are 2 kinda gateway thingies, i forget the name, that men have which help prevent uti's. So, afaik, sticking to play within the shaft will not result in significant risk of uti's.

YMMV.

Me - has prince's wand. no problems.

At least, no uti problems.

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WireX

I own a full set of urethral sounds myself. *edit* hagar *edit*

To each their own I guess, fun for me

dtbw

Okay, it would seem that most guys would almost rather take a knee to the balls that have something shoved inside their cock, but sexually centric urethral play is NOT in the same category as catheterization or any other medical procedure.

I got into urethra play several years ago after reading about the practice. It was a slow progression from small to large sounds. About a year ago, I did the PA as I had reached the point where the thought of being able to wear a PA wand was appealing. I have to admit, allowing another person to pierce my cock took all the courage I could muster, but not one time have I regretted getting the PA, nor was it painful (the anxiety moments before the piercing were way worse than the reality).

After the PA healed, I order a custom PA wand that is a series of 3/8"wide X 3/4"long polished stainless capsules connected with 1"long narrow stainless rods so that the whole thing is flexible. I really crave the feeling of it sliding inside my cock. The sensations when fucking are over the top due to the bulges the capsules make in the urethra playing against both the outside and the inside of my cock. In addition, I have a more typical PA wand for those times when I want to stuff my cock for extended periods (ie it is hollow). The weight of the stainless wand feels great tugging at my cock all day.

Urethra play is certainly at the edge, but it is enjoyable and I can say that the inside of my cock is as much an erogenous zone as the outside and having both involved makes sex all that much more fun.

dtbw

tisonlyi

woah, a flexible wand?

from whence was this purchased? do you have pictures? how much was this?

it's been a while since i looked around at wands and such.

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dtbw

Thought I would post a few pics of the flex wand setup I own. As the pics show, the bits thread together to give me quite a few different combinations. The large ring is frenum ring that sits just under the glans hugging the cock. The red part is a urethral estim probe (only the tip is conductive). If you have not discovered estim, you really are missing out on one of modern technologies latest gifts. The other parts are pretty self explanatory. FYI, the diameter of the parts is 3/8" and at the greatest extension, 8" long. The estim probe is a full 10". I am currently having a new upper section made that will have a low profile (flattened) PA crossbar and the more typical ball on the end. The new section will still allow me to connect all the other pieces to it with the exception of the estim probe which requires the existing upper section. The new upper section, while hollow, will not have adequate bore to pass the probe. The main reason for the new upper section is the current one has its drawbacks during intercourse (mainly the extruding crossbar post) and I wanted a more typical PA wand appearance for times when others might see my jewelry. If anyone is interested in details, please PM me.









For those of us that enjoy urethra play, the fear of a urinary tract infection is always in the back of our mind. I started off doing the extended boiling as I lacked an autoclave, but that was a real pain. I then remembered that as a kid going to the doctor that they always kept the oral thermometers in a container filled with cotton soaked in what I later in life discovered was denatured alcohol (ie 100% pure ethanol that has been rendered undrinkable...I remembered the thermometer having an awful, bitter taste). A bit of research confirmed that denatured alcohol was an excellent disinfectant due to being a very strong desiccant. I use an ultrasonic cleaner along with the denatured alcohol to thoroughly clean all the parts of my flex wand system and then I store the bits in a bath of denatured alcohol. When I get ready to use them, I rinse them off in water to remove the denatured alcohol as it would not be a pleasant feeling inside the urethra.

I have been using this technique for about 6 months and have had no uti issues, so it must be working.

dtbw

crackadelik

hey dtbw, i'm looking for someone to answer my questions about the PA wands because in my country i can't even find someone that knows what they are. U seem to know quite a lot about em, i was super impressed especially when u started talking about the estim probe... i need more info, please pm me asap.

Xerxys

DEVIL SATAN PAIN!!!

Will NEVER have anything jabbed up there EVAR again!!

/crawles back into corner.

FuglyStick

Fuck.

No.

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LoganSnake

Steel rods jammed up my cock? No thanks.

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cdwonderful

I too, add another voice to the "ouch" chorus

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Vigilante

I've done it a few times. It's interesting and I definitely hit the ceiling every time, but it's not something I would make a habit of. I'm a pain=pleasure kinda guy but it's not my focus.

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Iliftrocks

I've had a drain tube in mine whilst abed in the hospital, so I'm gonna go ahead and say a great big NO to that, but if you wanna do that go right ahead.

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biznatch

Guh! I almost yell every time I read this thread title, and my balls retract. Sorry, not for me.

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Spiritsoar

I have to throw my voice into the chorus here. I have to say, I'm into a lot of things, but this has always been one that's been firmly on my 'no' list. I'm even a bit of a masochist, but this strikes me as a totally non-erotic sort of pain. And even though some say it can be done without pain, even then I don't view it erotically, so I don't think I would get any enjoyment out of it. But to each their own. Even though it does make me cringe, I do have to thank Milnoc for his very good post about the details and methods.

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i am male and have done urethral play since i was young. if you can think of it i prolly have put it in my pee hole. my favorite is those glass or plastic stir sticks. glass is dangerous, but much more slippery than anything else i've tried. with the glass one i always use my pre-cum or just my spit for lube. i just get it started in my pee hole and push it in a few inches and then a little more until about 4 or 5 five inches are in with 2 inched on the outside so you don't have an accident and lose or break it. then as you get used to it, slide it in and out slowly. by now the pre-cum is just dripping everywhere. dam... it feels so good...so sexy. keep sliding in and out. my cock is so hard it's about to burst, but the stimulation is so intense that i can't cum yet. just more sliding in and out of my glistening urethra. now i start teasing with one finger, the area just below where the glass shaft is sliding in and out of my cock. it is so slippery with the dripping pre-cum. i'm concentrating on the area where the skin is very thin at the tip right near where the glass stick is pumping in and out causing the pre-cum to run out like a oil well. i keep teasing the area while still stabbing my urethra. i feel the cum starting to build and i sliding more and more while teasing the tender area under my pee hole. i can't hold it anymore and i release the infurno as i still slide the glass in and out. the cum runs out and all over the glass and feels so good and even more slippery from the cum i just spewed up my piss tube. ah man what a orgasm. cum it everywhere and now i slowly take the glass stick from pee hole and watch the cum as it drips off the piss hole fuck stick.

donmaytee

100% Ditto. No. Not for me.. . At all. I feel poorly!

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Lady Bear Cub

Erm... I might not have a penis but I have a urethra and this does not sound at all appealing.

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mnman

I have done this. I have used many things before I got my price albert wand. The best thing I did was to use a full size candycane. I inserted it all the way to the hooked end. Once it was full in me, I had the best sex with my wife I had ever had. The feeling was beyond description. But, let it be known that blowing your wad inside your wife while a full size candycane is in your dick, and your dick is inside her, is AWESOME!!!!

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If I get a chance, I will post a pic of a candycane in my dick.
someone needs to ask me to post it and I will.

Shadowex3

I had to pee but I dont think i'll be able to until he comes back in a week or twelve. I tried it once. ONCE. In the shower. It was a new type of pain.

Oh god dammit when am I going to learn to listen.

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Wyodiver33

No. Thanks.

I consider myself open-minded and kind of kinky. But, no.

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mnman

After you pee a couple of times, it gets back to normal. This pain is common for forst timers, or if you tried to large of a sound. You have to admit, the feeling once a sound is in in really intence. Oh, and there are hollow sounds, they are generally called a prince albert's wand. Look it up, they can be put in and left in for as long as you like. And sex with one in, is AWESOME!

Sue

If I were a guy, my nuts would DEFINITELY be retracting. ughhhhhhhh ew no ick ack ptooie.

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Irishsean

I used to do it and really enjoyed it at the time. Its a little harder now so I haven't tried it since sizing my PA up to 3/8.

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Jagtstein

I have looked at 47 years Meatotomie itself cut ostium Externa (the urethral opening) at 12 a.m. to 6 p.m. clock have expanded somewhat. The advantage is that you easily plugs or electrical masturbation sounds into the urethra can introduce sterile. I think it looks very good.
Here, I have a slot length of about 18mm achieved. The problem is not the urethral opening, but the narrowness of the underside of the highlights in the amount of the approach is Frenulum. Since I am currently on the stretch and had so far reached 10.5 mm in diameter. Here, I would not be cut because otherwise the Meatotomie too big, and in a submission on it.

Hotmnkyluv

Holy crap!
Whatever translation program you're using sucks...

Shadowex3

I really hope it does because my inner babelfish pieced that together as saying that he's... modified... his urethral opening to accomodate larger sounding implements and is running into the limits of something to do with his frenulum rather than how wide his urethra is.

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